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2:16 AM
> I'm not sure of the specifics, but I know you're supposed to brown nose the Prince every chance you get.
dat expression
 
Wes
2:29 AM
 
2:59 AM
Yay!! Got one year older today!! 😂
9
 
Wes
3:12 AM
happy birthday!
 
3:27 AM
@Akshay happy birthday;)
 
3:45 AM
hello
 
Thanks @wes @Linus
 
4:06 AM
I have a question about stopping a page from refreshing after new records found. Can anyone help?
 
@schulzey Use Ajax
 
 
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Wes
5:45 AM
mornin
 
morning
yesterday i have given a interview,and who has taken the interview told me that laravel has given the concept of DI.
I failed at interview but still i liked it how he told me that thing.
 
6:37 AM
@Linus an interview is a get-to-know-the-other. its as much for them as it is for you. it's not asymmetric. when that guy told you laravel invented DI, he failed the interview.
 
:)
 
6:59 AM
Morngins
@Akshay Gratz!
 
moin o/
 
Morgen
 
Wes
my monitor broke today, so i'm back on the 2560 x 1080
i could never get used to the ultra wide res
i keep maximizing the windows and everything looks ugly
 
I'm working on a laptop monitor :)
 
Wes
that would be better
you have no idea how ugly are some websites stretched out horizontally
 
7:08 AM
@PeeHaa you cant play soccer, but boy can you symphonic black metal
 
@Gordon Hey Italy also cannot play football
Also holy shit dude
I am still waking up :|
 
Wes
why are you dragging us with you
 
:p\
 
mornings
 
because I finally have somebody else to point at
:D
hey @RonniSkansing
 
7:10 AM
yoyo
 
@Wes Also don't worry about it. The German will always pick on me instead
 
Wes
the german also picks on me, more often than he does with you :B
 
Even with football?
 
Wes
it's not that before that we were great. anything great we did after 2006 was done by the very same people that won the world cup in 2006
 
That can't be right :P
 
Wes
7:11 AM
the new players suck
 
@Wes buffon retired… no cups for you anymore.
 
Wes
and now all 2006 wc winners are retired. so it was just a matter of time
 
Same for us
Sans the winners part :D
 
o/
 
o/
 
Wes
7:14 AM
you guys deserved to win something honestly. around late '90 + 10 years you had a great team
 
I knooow
 
Wes
now there's nothing left
 
It's all crap
It's mostly the same in the Dutch competition too sadly although for economical reasons
 
Wes
same here
 
\o
 
7:16 AM
o/
The money part is just so fucked up
 
Wes
at some point we had 5 teams in champions league final stages
now we barely have one
 
We just train young players just for them to get bought up
@Patrick Too long. Didn't read. Upvoted it
 
:D
 
:P
You forgot a >> TODO in there @Patrick
 
Wes
7:21 AM
i think the biggest problem we have is that youngsters don't feel the team they play in. they chase money rather than success
 
@PeeHaa ouch. thx
 
np
@Wes Well yeah. Wouldn't you do the same?
Can't hardly blame them
 
Wes
totti for example received offers from basically all europe including real madrid and barcelona, but he is the roman emperor so he stayed in rome's team
that created a legend that inspired a team for generations to build up a special kind of dedication and strength not many teams have
players know each other, they could play blindfolded
instead now the trend is changing a team every year. so no one can play as a team, and at the same time they don't develop themselves individually
 
It gets really bad when they are bought too young
 
Hello people :D Just a quick question is it okay to return stats (200,204,404...) in the response and in the header?Also where can i find some REST SHOULD guides.
 
7:27 AM
No development at all after that and they all think they are some fucking football god
Fucking prima donnas
@DaAmidza Header is part of the response?
What do you mean?
Body and headers maybe?
 
@Tiffany when you ignore people, their avatars get smaller in the room member list. If you see people referring to "tiny avatar" they mean an ignored person
moin
 
Morgen davidson
 
Wes
hey dave
 
@PeeHaa for example in my current REST API when a request passes it returns 200 in the header and in the body i also return 200.But if there is no content il return 200 in header and in the body(json) il return 204.
 
@DaAmidza it's OK to include the HTTP response code in the body, but it's somewhat pointless. There's no need to repeat yourself like that.
A client should check the response code as the very first thing they do, before they even start processing the entity body
 
Wes
7:30 AM
but i am glad that i could see the real football for a while even if now it's over. if you exclude messi other players are just shit
 
@DaAmidza don't do that, return 204 in the header
 
Wes
best football = 94 -> 06
not just italy, all the teams were much better
 
Use HTTP semantics properly. That's what they are for.
 
Hi nerds of the PHPverse!
 
If I was consuming an API that did that, I would likely rant and rave about it on the internet.
 
7:32 AM
 
@DaveRandom thanks for the info.
 
@PeeHaa yeh, and when I find a bad API I take a bunch of acid and spent all night shouting at someone about it too close to their face.
/me showers
 
:D
 
Wes
!!should i go buy a new monitor or keep the ultrawide one
 
You should go buy a new monitor.
 
Wes
7:38 AM
i think i'll get a 27'', 1920x1080
 
Hi there, I have the opportunity to follow a course of choice. I want to follow a php course because over here, the certificate is more important than experience. Can someone recommend a php course? I'm a experienced programmer from the netherlands, so (offline) courses in other countries are N.A. Thank you very much
 
@dnFer Where's over there?
 
@dnFer I wonder if anyone ever got a job because of a PHP certificate
 
@peehaa The Netherlands
 
They really don't care about certificates
Maybe only when you don't have any experience at all
But mostly nobody cares about it
 
7:43 AM
You want that Laravel qualification.
 
@dnFer spend that time on getting better/putting something up on github and it will be a better investment of your time imo
 
If you actually want to do a course I would suggest to just get your zend certificate
If you are an experienced php developer it should be easy after a few reads of the docs and the guide
And although useless (imo) at least you get something people will recognize
 
IMHO you're all right... experience and code over certificates, but human resources of employers over here... certificates first :(
 
You keep saying over here :P
But it's really not true :P
maybe specifically at digilive they care, but most companies in NL don't care for it
In the least creepy way possible: how old are you and how many years of experience do you have?
 
39yo and about 10y experience
 
7:48 AM
Yeah you are past the point of certificates :-)
but if the company is willing to pay for it go for it
Get zend certified
 
the main reason for rejection I really get is about those #$% certificates. My current company is willing to pay indeed. My main reason to take a course ;)
 
What? really? :P
In all my years I have never had somebody even asking about it :) For context I'm also Dutch
 
@dnFer did you get rejected before or after an onsite interview?
 
Always before, because I don't meet the "requirements"
 
@PeeHaa waste of money
 
7:55 AM
So weird. Maybe it's a belgium thing :P
 
and you have 10 years of PHP work experience? That's really weird
Maybe something is wrong with your CV?
 
heheheh sorry couldn't resist :D
@Gordon It is. But if you were to get a certificate get a zend one is what I am saying
Also if the company is willing to pay meh
Let them waste it :-)
 
my thoughts as well... it's not my waste...
 
Do you have a github profile @dnFer?
 
hi, maybe I can get some advice, I have no idea what I should do
I was asking about it yesterday in this chat
I started learning (or really studying) the php like 5 months ago, it was going good and now I am taking a second longer break (I was taking shorter ones in the meantime), but again, the learning was good
I am now stuck after a 28 days or so break, I just dont have that energy / potential to learn; people were saying to do CodeFights.com, or build something like a guestbook, but it seems like the best thing to do would be to wait
I am feeling like I am on a 10 or 15 meters hill of lets say sand and it does not make sense to work on that, it would be better to let that send go down and start from the 0 level, so to speak
I am like on a 10 or 15 meters hill, it needs to go down first and then I could learn more
so wait, I guess, the brain does not have the power yet?
I've been doing quite advanced things, proper, in-depth learning, it was not something like PHP for Dummies or something like that, all "serious stuff"
it just seem like waiting is the best way to go
 
8:01 AM
Pretty sure we already told you (under a different name) we are not a diary where you can just spit out all your thoughts
 
writing a guest book or something else, or doing CodeFights.com seems like "working on a bunch of crap that is not good, doing something fresh on crap, I need to get rid of that crap, and start fresh and not on the crap" so to speak
some kind of feedback would be good
I've been losing wait for like 6 months now and since like 2 days I made adjustments to that, the weight has stopped going down
 
@peehaa I'm actually a gitlab user, but I dont have public projects since I mainly code for customers... I'll take a look into zend certification, but for now I have to get back to work. Thanks for the info
 
@dnFer kk. np. have a good day o/
 
on multiple levels - eating 4 instead of 2 times a day, suplementation for the brain (linseed oil, lecitine, vitamin D, magnesium), eating food with less calories, 3 times more intense sport and 3 types of sport
 
@Peehaa Hi am a php developer with 5+ yrs already knew basic stuffs with PHP OOPS, Yii2, opencart and so learning js framework is good sir in future or other PHP frameworks i should learn?
 
8:04 AM
and that learning part, I am not sure what I should do, I guess just wait
people here are familar with that
 
@now_m Seriously stop using this chat as a random personal soundboard
 
30 days off is a fairly normal thing, like I said, I've been doing quite intense studd
 
Go out and get shit faced is what I would do
 
shit faced you mean drunk?
 
!!urban shitfaced
 
8:06 AM
if yes, this can be good, tequila can be good, I think
 
[ shitfaced ] To be really, really drunk
 
I have no $$$ though, I am not working
I was doing some drinking (with food, this is better, I started doing it like this since some time) and this got in the way of the diet too
so I wont be drinking, but I could with no food but no $$$$
I read somewhere that drinking "clears the cache"
but again, no $$$
so I guess just wait
 
...
 
wtf
 
doing anything practical or learning sounds like doing something fresh on like 15 meters hill of crap
this crap needs to go down first, this is the feeling that I have
and start fresh
 
8:08 AM
Plz stop.
 
@now_m we are not your psychologist. go see one. and stop writing. please
 
but what, after like 90 days?
yes, but all people here are familair with that
30 days off sounds like too long, or not really?
on average?
 
is your eyesight weak?
 
it would be good to get pointed in a good direction in some way
like brain needs time to process / store this information?
you were all learning this, you are understanding what I am talking about
were you taking breaks
you were learning like 2 years, and the breaks were like 60% of this time, something like this
some kind of point of view of other people would be good
meet with people, get drunk, do sport - I guess, and just wait...
 
heads up @now_m. I would read back and see what three people just told you. It's a kinda lame reason to kick somebody, but do yourself a favor and get the hints
 
8:12 AM
@PeeHaa He did it all last night too
It's AaronSmith
 
he always does it
yep I know
I got it after sentence 2 and a half
:P
That was it
We agree kicking him wasn't out of line right?
 
Nope
 
kk
 
OT chat is fine but he is just spamming the room with unintelligible crap that no one is engaging in.
 
Yeah. Agreed
 
8:16 AM
Needs to learn that both on and offline you have to read the room. It's for the best.
 
Let's hope he gets the hint this time :)
 
/me shakes 8-ball. "Outlook not so good"
 
heheheh
 
Does Jeeves have an 8-ball command?
 
Nope. Think somebody wanted that before though
Was it @Sean?
 
8:18 AM
More of a novel feature.
@Jeeves do I play video games, watch netflix or do something productive.
 
@Fabor What kind of games?
 
@Jeeves Either Terraria or Fallout 4
 
@Fabor What's your favourite colour?
 
@Jeeves Blue.
 
@Fabor Do you like football?
 
8:22 AM
I might do some terraria with you later this week fab
 
@Jeeves No, it's a boring sport that has 90 minutes for only 3 goals -_-
 
@Fabor Oh.
 
@PeeHaa Ooh, promises promises :P
 
I played it for 30 minutes or so was kinda meh
 
Intro can be tougher. Once you stop dying so much it's better.
We can do voice on a shared server. It'll be good. Great couples game too I think. Can get a real dynamic going. Maybe @JayIsTooCommon can be our pet.
 
8:24 AM
Don't think @Ekin would appreciate it :P
Oooh as pet
Yeah that works
 
@PeeHaa Why not? 3 a crowd? :P
 
what? a pet?
 
still a prefer a real dog
 
works for me :P
 
hehehe
Done
 
8:25 AM
heh
Now I actually do want to play multi-player terraria. Dang.
 
Happy Birthday @Akshay!!
 
Morning sire
 
Mornbo
 
@Fabor I probably have to work this afternoon
 
probably
Meaning "should but might not"
 
8:26 AM
And for some reason internet is currently somewhat flaky
@Fabor I really should :P
 
Rub some kebab on your ethernet cable. Should sort it.
 
Kinda been ignoring some mails :D
@Fabor Still haven't had it
 
Kebabs here are nice but they're not kebabs :( lemme grab a photo
 
Will go find it this week and instagram the photos
@Fabor lol
I can even feel that all the way over here
 
That his tooth?
 
8:28 AM
> “If you guys find my gum shield let me know,” Rogers wrote on Facebook. “Dan told me they found it in Bilston on Tuesday, but I’ve heard that it’s found it’s way to Brazil,”
:P
 
wat
Bitch please
 
Yeah :-/
 
Thanks @Jimbo
 
brb finding shower and trying to wake up
 
8:30 AM
brb finding coffee for the same reason
 
posted on November 28, 2017 by kelunik

- Fixed cyclic reference within `BasicResolver->gcWatcher` (#68).

 
if you wanna wake up, click youtube.com/watch?v=ZY7ELJ0oeaA and turn the volume up to 11
 
8:48 AM
@DaveRandom What a tosser
 
mornin
 
@Jimbo yeah, should have urban dictionaried Jimbo before claiming things that aint true
 
Wes
@Jimbo damn that was a bit too harsh :B
 
@Wes Tosser is the least harsh thing. Don't go all spanish on me. They're only just coming around to being called Arsehole every few hours
 
Wes
we should stop using certain words
i was referring to what dave said
 
8:51 AM
lol
 
@Jimbo wouldnt going spanish on you require boobs?
 
@Gordon I don't know, is there a "to go Spanish on" verb?
Wonder what "to go British on" would be...
Probably involves tea and, shit. Comma implemented correctly.
"Tea, shit and a bitta brexit"
 
Wes
i don't really understand the politeness of words in english
for example shit is a bad word, but poop isn't. doesn't make sense
but retarded i am sure is pretty harsh :B
 
just look at poop… how can a word that already looks round and cute be offensive?
 
Wes
the polite word would be simpleton though, right? or something like that
 
8:54 AM
@Jimbo IDK if there is a verb but I am fairly certain it requires boobs.
 
Serious question for those familiar with it, ergonomics. I'm getting shoulder pain and it's from how I'm sitting. But I've looked online and tried moving my desk up / down, lowering / raising my chair, resting elbow on arm rest and having hands dangling a bit. Anyone had similar and solved it?
 
I just realized when you turn boob on it's head you get poop.
@Jimbo sports :P
 
I do Gym every day but stopped until I solve this
 
@Wes Retarded is an actual medical definition. If we keep pushing it back eventually "Simpleton" won't be allowed either.
 
Literally had to go to sleep early because of pain coming up at home
 
8:57 AM
@Jimbo For how long?
 
what did I just read? o_0
 
Wes
also moron is afaik, but it gained an offensive connotation over the years...
 
@Fabor Well over a month, but only the past week or so has it been where I had a 'kink' when I got up in my shoulder blade and then had to hobble to bed and just lie there like an old man
Feel like I have to be careful with shoulder / neck movements
 
@Jimbo Go get a message, get a better pillow maybe.
 
I feel lactic acid build-up in the same area when working for a while, I get that 'ache' around there, and I think it's because of how I'm sat and using the muscles at work. So that's why I think it's related to it (that burn feeling)
 
8:59 AM
Pick up a peanut and maybe a little yoga each morning.
Which part of your shoulder anyway
 
Right next to where the shoulder blade touches muscle about half way down it diagonally
 

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