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11:01 AM
Holy shit. I just slept almost 20 hours :P
 
Whoa
What caused that?!
 
Mostly have been living at night the last weeks :P
 
And skipping sleep sun to mon at all
 
@PeeHaa oh man. I can't do that. I want to pee so bad.
 
Anonymous
11:05 AM
@FlorianMargaine he wears nappies
 
@FlorianMargaine same :P
 
:P
 
Anonymous
@SaitamaSama you'll grow out of them soon.
 
@PeeHaa I was playing games for 18 hours..
 
11:07 AM
@JayIsTooCommon soundcloud.com/user-93315143/9-months-24 Disclaimer: work in progess, lots of bugs, etc
@AlmaDo Also nice :)
 
Anonymous
> This track was not found. Maybe it has been removed
 
What you been playing?
@JayIsTooCommon Oh it's private. Lemme make a link
 
Anonymous
duuude
 
?
 
Anonymous
4th loop :P That is freaking awesome
 
11:14 AM
\o/
 
Wes
@JayIsTooCommon nappieshaaaaa
 
Anonymous
@PeeHaa where did you get the vocals from?
 
acapellas4u IIRC
 
Anonymous
honestly, sounds great
 
Anonymous
Did you try and low-level string / synth / bass for the start? Then again, that would probably drown out the vocal too much
 
11:18 AM
yeah will probably try it
Always need a proper length of track so I will not abandon it and after that I can fix all the things
I hope :)
 
Anonymous
please don't abandon it :P
 
wat dis? fruity loops?
 
Ableton
 
Never used it
 
Good morning room
 
11:25 AM
@Leigh In the end it's mostly all the same only different GUIs
morngin linus
 
Used to spend hours wiring up all kinds of DSP mods only to get frustrated and delete everything
So, not much has changed, regardless of project
 
:)
I still want to take a stab at writing a vst
Signal processing is one of those things that is probably cool as fuck, but at the same time hard as fuck
 
inb4 ext/vst
 
:D
 
11:45 AM
@samayo One thing, currently the document root is /home/pronexo/www/ and I want to change it, do you know where is that path defined?
 
!!? how to change the document root in apache2
 
Search for "how to change the document root in apache2 -site:w3schools.com" (https://www.google.com/search?q=how+to+change+the+document+root+in+apache2+-site%3Aw3schools.com&lr=lang_en)
• How To Move an Apache Web Root to a New Location… - 27 jul. 2016 - In this guide, we'll show you how to move an Apache document root to a new … An Apac… (https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-move-an-apache-web-root-to-a-new-location-on-ubuntu-16-04)
• How To Move an Apache Web Root to a New Location… - 14 dec. 2016 - In this guide, you'll move the Apache document root to a new location b
 
@SaitamaSama It's not a normal thing, I've defined some users for my server
 
Well, alright... I haven't really used apache for the past year or so, but... I don't think the drill is different when you use some other user
 
@Wes or... you have a BaseIterable class from which everything extends and a protected abstract method. Or just a protected property (which would be waaaaaay more efficient). What you are really wanting is an internal interface but you can't do that in PHP.
 
Wes
11:52 AM
yeah i did something like that. it's awful regardless
 
It's somewhat horrible but classical OOP in PHP is inherently "awful" because it lacks features such as package-level visibility and generics.
There's only so much you can do when you don't have the full toolset
 
Wes
i doubt it would be much better with a better type system
 
it you want it to be molecularly perfect, write it in C# or write an extension
btw you should totally just write an extension
 
Wes
i will do eventually
 
@Wes without those two things in particular, it is impossible to avoid some degree of manual runtime checking for typed collections, and it is impossible to hide implementation details like this from the public API, unless you have a common base class, which is zomg too much inheritance
 
12:11 PM
is this the fault of php.net tutorials or are there really so many stupid people trying to learn programming ?
 
I'm learning OOP and I'm trying to do this, but it's wrong, can someone please enlighten me on what would be a good approach to the problem bellow?

class Form{
    private $input = new Input;
    public function addCustom($html) {
        $this->input->addCustom($html);
    }
}

class Input extends Form {
    public function addCustom($html) {
        $this->inputs .= $html;
    }
}
 
@tereško yes, indeed
 
12:27 PM
@LucasBustamante it's wrong on multiple levels :D
 
I know, and it feels painful xD
 
You have good instincts.
 
I would like to separate Input and Form
 
hello
 
first of all, extends keyword should be translated as "is special type of"
as in, what you have written can be read as: input is a special type of form
 
12:28 PM
that code above feels like class Garage extends Car ...
 
aaaand, that's completely wrong
 
Is anyone familiar with the google api sdk? developers.google.com/admin-sdk/directory/v1/guides/…
 
@AlmaDo class User extends DatabaseConnection
 
:D
 
^^^^^^^^ only played like a half hour and until now it's similar, but everything feels nicer. I noticed a few mechanics that have changed regarding resources, the ui is much nicer.
@LucasBustamante well, nothing like the present to actually separate them!
 
12:29 PM
@MadaraUchiha no.. I mean. Garabe is above Car, right? So it must be that class Garage extends Car :D
 
the other thing is, @LucasBustamante : don't make a form-builder. That is a terrible mess, that you don't want to touch
 
> Makefile support proves to be a nightmare. Despite several patches to the recipes having some Makefile support (support for Windows and whatnot), it was a never ending battle. At the end of the day, we realize that people had wrong expectations about the Makefile, and that make is not so standard.
From - I could have told them that.
 
Yeah, it's a mess and I regret starting it xD, but I'm learning, which is good... What Input is to Form, then?
 
<?php
session_start();
$_SESSION = [];
require_once 'vendor/autoload.php';
$google_api_key = "AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA";
$clientID = "AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA.apps.googleusercontent.com";
$clientSecret = "AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA";
$scriptUri = "https://".$_SERVER["HTTP_HOST"].$_SERVER['PHP_SELF'];
$client = new Google_Client();
$client->setAccessType('online');
$client->setApplicationName('MYAPPNAME');
$client->setClientId($clientID );
$client->setClientSecret($clientSecret);
 
@LucasBustamante I'd strongly recommend not trying to implement forms as OO code. Separate them out into i) some html that calls an api (using React is great) ii) a simple API in the back end. I've tried multiple times writing clean form handling code in PHP, and it's always turned into shit.
Of course, learning from failure is also good.....but I don't think there's any path to success.
 
12:33 PM
I have the oauth2.0 part working, need to figure out how to add email accounts(with the api) to my domain(hosted through g-suite)
 
@Danack Thanks, I'll not spend much time in this project, then
 
@PaulIshak why are you dumping code that apparently has no bearing on the actual question that you might ask?
Also, you might want to learn how to ask for help more clearly - e.g. from rurounijones.github.io/blog/2009/03/17/… You haven't asked a question - you've just dumped code and said what you want to achieve, which doesn't provide any info about what you're actually stuck on.
Which means the only 'help' people can give you is, "read the documentation".
 
@Danack I'm not sure how you mean it has no bearing? The api requires an oauth token afaik, otherwise please correct me, as I am new to this chat. Please be gentle :)
 
if (isset($_GET['logout']))
{
unset($_SESSION['token']);
die('Logged out.');
}
That has no relevance to "need to figure out how to add email accounts"
 
@Danack Granted, but overall the entire script I posted is relevant... Looking for help, not micro-nitpicking...
@Danack If you don't want to or can't I understand. Thank you anyways
 
12:38 PM
> Also, you might want to learn how to ask for help more clearly
 
@Danack You didn't understand the question?
 
You haven't asked a question
 
> Also, you might want to learn how to ask for help more clearly
As I said, you haven't actually said what you need help with.....just kind of hinted what the end goal is. For example - have you been able to find and read the documentation, or is that the problem?
Have you tried to write some code that adds emails, and it doesn't work, and that's the problem?
 
Something like this would be closer to "right"?

class Form {
    protected $form;
    protected $input;
    public function __construct() {
        $this->input = new Input;
    }
    public function addInput($args)
    {
        $this->form .= $this->input->addInput($args);
    }
}

class Input {
    public function addInput($args) {
        // Do something
        return $input;
    }
}
 
12:40 PM
@Danack Ok here goes: I have email hosting for my domain through g-suite. I am looking for someone who can help me to use php, on my website's backend, to implement googles directory api, to add email accounts. I have found documentation about the api, but am unsure how to use it. This link shows the api: developers.google.com/admin-sdk/directory/v1/guides/…
 
> $this->form .= $this->input->addInput($args);
 
I have email hosting for my domain through g-suite. I am looking for someone who can help me to use php, on my website's backend, to implement googles directory api, to add email accounts. I have found documentation about the api, but am unsure how to use it. This link shows the api: developers.google.com/…
 
please don't spam that same sentence a third time.
 
@FélixGagnon-Grenier I got it that the whole idea of form idea is bad, I just want to improve my OOP concepts
 
@PaulIshak still not a question. Are you asking "does anyone here want to write code for me?" or are you asking "I have written some code, and am stuck, on this specific bit insert details here".
 
12:42 PM
Didn't know it was visible to everyone...
 
@LucasBustamante Input should be passed in as a parameter, so that different implementations can be used.
 
@PaulIshak this is literally a a public chat
 
Jesus I am just looking for someone who knows how to use the api and point me in the right direction, not a bunch of people who want to criticize my every move... Chill out. Can you help or not?
 
so ideally I should be type hinting the parameter and calling the Input class itself on implementation, instead of inside the Form class?
 
12:44 PM
Not looking for a free programmer, and not looking to disrespect the public chat, this is my first time in here... Cut me a break already.
 
sorry, that's confusing
 
People are unlikely to want to donate their time for free. If you have specific problems, people are more likely to help with those, but just asking for some developer to work on your project is....actually pretty rude.
 
Again, that's not what I am asking for...
 
I'll work my way deeper in OOP and come back when I have specific questions, right now I just feel like I have to study more. Have a good one everyone!
 
@PaulIshak Yes you are. You don't give details of what you're stuck on, you just want someone to volunteer to help you when you haven't actually tried that hard yourself, and are either too lazy or unwilling to write out your specific problem.
 
12:46 PM
@LucasBustamante that might indeed be better. however, some thought should be given the line I quoted. You should aim for some kind of private repository of inputs (most likely an array), in the form class. the addInput method would add an element to that array.
 
> point me in the right direction,
How would that be possible when you aren't saying what you've tried, or what the specific problem is that you need to overcome next?
 
@Danack Again, no. The documentation is vague to me. I am asking for someone who has experience with the api. Someone who can give a small example of implementing a service request. I showed the code I have so far, which required me to install the google api with composer, and then to create the client, then I spent about 4 hours looking around for examples to connect, and get my oauth2.0 token, etc... I have put alot into it, and am looking for someone to help.
@Danack Not looking for a free programmer. Not lazy. I am just a bit lost, in need of help. Not looking the chat police.
 
@FélixGagnon-Grenier In the actual code I add the returning string to the $inputs property, and further down the code when I generate the form I do $this->form .= $this->getInputs(); which returns $inputs
 
Anonymous
@PaulIshak If you want to get help in any online chat, you need to tell the room what you've tried, what it is that is failing, how it is failing and what your end goal is. I.e. Be more specific. No one has the time to help you with a broad long-winded question. If you haven't got anything specific to ask, then you haven't tried hard enough :)
 
The whole idea of form building sounds terrible, but it's part of a bigger problem that I was avoiding to mention rsrs... Speaking very bluntly, I work in an agency and we do numerous landing pages, and sometimes the client can't run PHP, so ideally the landing pages are HTML, but they still have to send e-mail. So I did a "email-relay" script that is hosted in our servers and the landing pages just post to that script, which only accepts posts from specific domains.
 
12:55 PM
Ok, new question: Is there anyone here willing to help me, that ALREADY has EXPERIENCE, using the Google Admin SDK Directory API?
 
Anonymous
So, you didn't listen
 
It works nice, the only problem is that the forms itself get a little messy, because the inputs have to be like <input name="field[0][label]" type="hidden" name="Telephone"> <input name="field[0][value"] placeholder="Telephone">, then I build the email with "Telephone: Value<br>", etc.
 
@JayIsTooCommon My question isn't vague, and it is specific. I need someone with actual experience, because then they would understand where I am currently at in my implementation of the API.
 
@PaulIshak This is not a question - "Someone who can give a small example of implementing a service request." This is a question - "Can anyone give me a link to an example that does xyz?"
Please fill out what xyz is exactly, and I will try to answer.
 
@PaulIshak Bro, I've been there. I recommend you grab a book and study programming, try to be good. Coding sucks when you don't know it, but when you do, it get's fun.
 
12:57 PM
...
@LucasBustamante I have no problem coding...
Should I try to clarify my question again?
 
4 mins ago, by Danack
Please fill out what xyz is exactly, and I will try to answer.
 
@PaulIshak There's any error messages?
 
Ok: Can anyone give me a link to an example that [Uses PHP to implement the api located at developers.google.com/admin-sdk/directory/v1/guides/…
 
No. No one can give you an example that implements the whole fucking API.
Be precise about what you want to do.
 
@Danack Relax xD We'll get through it
@PaulIshak Come on bro, what did you do so far and where did you get stuck?
 
1:03 PM
@Danack I want to add email accounts to my g-suite domain hosting
I posted my code above. Again, I don't know how I am supposed to implement these JSON request objects from PHP...
 
Please, for me, say it as a question.
 
Okay, first things first, indent your code by selecting it and pressing Cntrl+K
it's hard to read without indentation
 
Anonymous
@PaulIshak ^
 
3 messages moved to Trash
 
Anonymous
developers.google.com/admin-sdk/directory/v1/guides/… - gives you the JSON you need to post
 
1:04 PM
@Danack weeeeell ... there is always the option to point people to the c# room
 
Anonymous
@Danack ?
 
shh. we're about to have a revelation....
 
Or not.
 
Anonymous
...
 
1:05 PM
have you tried like, googling for something helpful, maybe "directory api php examples"
 
Anonymous
@PaulIshak developers.google.com/admin-sdk/directory/v1/guides/… - This gives you the JSON you need to post. You need to now Google how to make JSON POST requests in PHP.
 
Of course
 
... because the first result is literally directory api php examples
 
Paul, you are shit at asking questions, and the reason I've been trying to get you to express it as a question, is because I would then be able to convert that question into a google search term, that is very likely to give you the info you searching for.
 
Anonymous
@Danack that result would have stopped this...
 
1:07 PM
The fact that you are looking for "someone to help" rather than clearly thinking about the precise problem you need to solve, is a career limiting impediment in your thought processes.
I'd suggest working on it.
/laters
 
Nicely articulated insult, but still not helpful.
 
yes?
 
Anonymous
@PaulIshak Did you Google what I said?
 
1:08 PM
@tereško please make the pain stop. give us today our hourly ignore. forgive me the profanities I will be uttering forever and ever.
 
@JayIsTooCommon yes, and I am still looking at some results, but I have been googling for a while now.
 
everyone just chill the fuck out for christ sake, Paul, listen to me. Can you connect to Google API at all?
 
@FélixGagnon-Grenier have you considered death by alcohol poisoning ?
 
working on it ;)
 
1:09 PM
The fact you take it as an insult, rather than a recommendation of how to improve yourself makes me despair.
Sep 3 at 16:18, by Danack
seriously though - stop trying to help someone do simple homework. It's more important for them to learn how to learn, (or to fail and to realise they need help with that from their teacher) than it is for them to have someone else complete their homework for them.
 
Anonymous
@PaulIshak Ok, great. Take a look at a few examples (they don't have to be Google API specific). Then look at the Google docs to see what request body you need
 
you should listen to @Danack, he has a beard ...
5
 
Teaching people how to help themselves is more important than giving them the answer to their current problem.
5
 
that reminds me - I need a shave
 
You ned to take it into consideration, the fact that I need help, might also be an indicator, that I may not be able to articulate the question in the exact format you personally require to not be a fucktard.
 
Anonymous
1:10 PM
Yes, but we should also all calm down and stop being overly-pedantic
 
Anonymous
^^ this
 
@JoeWatkins If I had a girlfriend, I would say "yes, but she prefers to be called %GIRLFRIEND_NAME%".
> that I may not be able to articulate the question in the exact format you personally require to not be a fucktard.
 
lol
 
Yes, that is a more important problem to solve than your immediate desire of finding an example piece of code.
 
I'm out, despite the fucking despair above, it was an overall nice experience entering this chat, lol. Have a good one guys
 
Anonymous
1:11 PM
@PaulIshak stackoverflow.com/questions/6213509/send-json-post-using-php here's someone who has your exact issue, for example
 
set someone on fire...
 
Did anyone even look at the gist?
 
Anonymous
@PaulIshak The gist is just you authenticating, if it's all working, it doesn't relate to your question?
 
$client->addScope('https://www.googleapis.com/auth/admin.directory.user');
$service = new Google_Service($client);
 
but it's what I wrote when thinking of the problem, it's MUST be RELATEDSZZZZ!!!!111
 
1:14 PM
That isn't exposing the directory api?
 
Anonymous
Do you get a scope error when you try to use the directory api?
 
@PaulIshak wasn't your question about adding emails?
 
Anonymous
@PaulIshak Ok, that's good. So what part is failing?
 
this is related to adding emails, in the same way setting up a webserver is related to serving web pages
 
1:15 PM
Yes, I want to add an email account to my domain, the code I posted is what I imagine the first part, unless its totally wrong as well
 
Anonymous
No, you're on the right track
 
Anonymous
So you've done the authentication part, and if you're getting no errors then that's great.
 
Just please bear with me, I am not an inexperienced programmer, nor am I trying to disrespect the chat. This is my first attempt at seeking help in SO chat, and it is also my first attempt with google directory api.
 
Anonymous
Now you need to make requests to the directory API. developers.google.com/admin-sdk/directory/v1/guides/… Following these guides
 
Anonymous
If you don't know how to make those requests, take a look at the answers here stackoverflow.com/questions/6213509/send-json-post-using-php
 
1:17 PM
Right, and that's what I am stuck on... I don't see any php example, and am a bit lost at making these requests.
 
Anonymous
Sure, so all Google are giving you is the request body. I.e. What they want your request to contain. The SO question I just linked you ^ should tell you how to make those requests
 
I see in the example, that it posts json, but what am I supposed to name the variables?
like url?json=$json ?????
Typically when I send requests, the variables have names i.e. ?id=1&action=sumbit&return=index.html
Also, I tried sending the variables with a get request and I get a 401 that way, so I figured it was entirely incorrect
 
Anonymous
You're using google api PHP client, right?
 
yes
 
1:22 PM
ok this looks helpful, I will read it, thank you
 
Anonymous
@PaulIshak You're welcome, sorry for the way you were treated. If you get stuck again, do a bunch of Googling and then if still stuck feel free to come back. Just try and be more specific :)
 
ಠ_ಠ
 
I just hope that some people can realize that not everything is super cut and dry, especially when you are implementing a new api. I hope people can learn to be a bit more respectful, considering I am a 3 time Microsoft MVP, and a programmer of almost 35 years. No one knows everything, but respect should be given nonetheless. And thanks again.
 
You know the thing on SO main when adding tags to questions, there's a text input and it pops tags (simple-ish auto complete type thing), but then when you click on a tag it appears to add it to the input box and move the cursor to the right of it... I want a similar UI for a thing I'm doing and I am assuming there's a bunch of jQ plugins to do stuff like that, but what would you call that type of control? i.e. what should I search for?
 
1:31 PM
E_TOO_MANY_WORDS
 
I could implement it myself but I would like to not re-invent that particular wheel because it's pretty complicated
 
@DaveRandom 'tag editor' probably - e.g. goodies.pixabay.com/jquery/tag-editor/demo.html
 
Today our servers were down because the $_SERVER variable was empty, which broke all pages that depended on $_SERVER['DOCUMENT_ROOT'] to include libraries :(
We reset our servers and everything is fine now. But we have no clue what could have caused the $_SERVER variable to be empty.
 
Anonymous
@DaveRandom The tags aren't actually added to the input box. Just a div next to the input box
 
@Danack yeh that's exactly what I'm after, thx
@JayIsTooCommon Yeh I know that :-P
 
Anonymous
1:33 PM
Ah sorry :B
 
just describing it from a user's PoV
 
1:47 PM
@DaveRandom BTW often when walking between rooms and switching from router to AP my connection to internet dies, if I modify network on my phone to change the IP address it uses. Seems to be a recurring issue but it's not the worst thing in the world to have to do it. Unsure what they may indicate issue wise though.
 
Hello! I've got a quick question;

Why is it that MySQL returns 0 affected rows for update statements that don't push any changes, but still sends the query?

I.e `UPDATE item SET comment = '' WHERE id = 1`, if the comment is already an empty string, the query indicates "0" affected rows, but we did send an UPDATE command to the table and there should be 1 affected rows
I was always under the impression that affected rows always returned the number of rows that applied to a statement
and not only if the update actually changes anything or nt
 
affected rows
 
exactly
there should be one affected row with an update to the comment
even though the comment is an empty string
 
So if nothing is affected
 
so, mysql actually does no updates if the data sent is the same?
 
1:51 PM
Yes
 
ok
thanks for helping me clarify that
 
@Fabor that's moderately suprising to me.
 
Why so?
 
Because I would have expected the update to go through, so that any triggers that are watching for updates would get triggered, regardless of the content of the update.
However:
 
i'm with danack, if you send an update query, it should still execute the update even though the data is the same
 
1:53 PM
> For UPDATE statements, the affected-rows value by default is the number of rows actually changed. If you specify the CLIENT_FOUND_ROWS flag to mysql_real_connect() when connecting to mysqld, the affected-rows value is the number of rows “found”; that is, matched by the WHERE clause.
 
ok
that actually makes sense if there is a flag for it
 
It wouldn't make sense with the word affected if it did though.
 
i'm no english native speaker, but affected i thought meant even accessed
 
@Daniel "influenced or touched by an external factor."
 
anyway, i guess it makes sense now, one just have to check if the query is successful and not for "affected" roes
"touched"
like it was actually opened and validated
 
Wes
2:01 PM
'noon
 
helllo
 
2:20 PM
@Fabor why are you changing the IP address?
I suspect you should just be using MAC/IP bindings in the DHCP config
 
@DaveRandom Only changing my phone to a connect as a static IP to regain connectivity to the net. Otherwise I don't.
So if I notice my phone is connected but no internet, I $ip++ and it connects to the internet
 
2:33 PM
what's a recommendation for resolving merge conflicts in git?
 
Anonymous
1) Don't work with others
 
crap, too late to edit. recommended program
 
Anonymous
SourceTree is pretty good for conflicts
 
Explaining "rep change" with "Rep Change" is a brilliant solution. — honk 23 hours ago
 
2:37 PM
trying to answer a question for someone, they're wondering what ramifications would come if two developers are working on a different version of software (source code is provided by a third party, so they would be extending the source code from the third party, potentially on different versions)
 
from legal stand point?
 
no, as in like merge conflicts
they're new to git
it's a post from a private forum, or I'd link it
it's a question I feel like I can answer, but I'm still pretty new to git as well
 
if they are editing different files, then there will be no conflicts
to get a conflict, you need to edit the same file int two separate branches
and the edits need to overlap
 
This is their question:
Question: When should a developer check to see if their repo's are outdated (newer version on git server) & go about fetching/updating their repo? And does it matter? For example, does it matter if developer#1 has clone down base ver 9.0 and developer#2 has cloned base ver 9.2 and both developer #1 and #2 are working on extending different student pages?
first part of my answer is:
Regarding your first question, I would think you would want to extend upon the version that your production environment is currently on. Yes, there will be upgrades applied to the production environment, which I think would be when you would want to fetch the newer version from ellucian's git repo. The idea being that your development/test environment are the same as your production environment -- leaves less room for bugs to pop up in production that did not happen in development.
 
^ not necessary "overlapping edit". well - no. just you need to understand correctly what "overlapping" means. It's not only the content conflict. It may also be a tree conflict (like - the node was removed in one revision and modified somehow else in another)
 
2:45 PM
you should probably link to this
@Tiffany ah .. well ... sounds like those two branches will be incompatible
usually, when you create a new release, you also split of a branch
the way to resolve it would be to first merge the modified 9.0 version into the unmodified 9.2
that will spawn a shitload of conflicts
the moving from the "new 9.2" to the "modified 9.2" will be simple
basically, it is the responsibility of the person, who has been working on 9.0 based code
 
but it's accepted that all developers should be working on the same version, yes?
 
what do you mean under "version" ?
 
I mean, it depends on what version they want to work on
 
what do you mean under "accepted" ?
 
and that would require internal discussion, I would think
 
2:52 PM
what do you mean "internal"?
 
lol
 
trolls .. :p
 
/me waves
 
@Tiffany in general, the new features should be made on top of the latest version and not on top of some legacy support branch
 
2:54 PM
@Tiffany it all depends on the case. it is perfectly fine for several devs to work on one feature. it may or may not be separated on several branches for them. it's up to them to agree on how they feel it should be. it's all up to them how to develop
 
... unless some is paying you a fuckton of money to support the legacy codebase
 
but when it comes to things which affect team on a larger scale (common dev/rc/release branches) - usually you want to follow some process
 
@tereško that all developers on a team should be working on the same version of code that is provided by the vendor? So, vendor releases 9.2 for Module A, and their organization has upgraded Module A to 9.2, should all of their developers update their local copy to 9.2?
 
@Tiffany yes
 
2:55 PM
Morning v2
 
Anonymous
yopee2
 
unless you have a financially convincing reason to do otherwise
 
one part of the problem is that not all organizations are upgraded to the latest version with their software/modules, so the chance to be working on a legacy branch from the vendor will be somewhat common
 
there definitely should not be some people in a single team, taht work on adding new features to version 9.0 and others who work on 9.2
 
that makes sense
 
2:57 PM
@Tiffany that's why the older branches receive only security fixes
 
.. and that's why at some point they're abandoned completely
 
besides, migrating from version 9.0 to 9.2 should be quite simple (those do count as minor versions)
 

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