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6:01 AM
@Orangepill Sure, nothing wrong with that :)
You could choose hybrid as well ... embed small stuff, link the rest.
Authoring HTML for emails is a science on its own, really.
 
@Jack it's enough of a moral crisis for me having to send the email.... if I'm eating up some poor saps monthly data limit as well It might drive me to drink
@Jack Agreed
@JAck I use an adaptation of this
 
@Orangepill You need reasons to drink now, do you? :)
 
@Jack I like to keep a few reasons handy at all times :)
 
You just need a good resource of drinking games.
Find a parking lot at the supermarket, drink.
Watch the 7 o'clock news, drink.
 
You need to drink after watching the news.
 
6:10 AM
Yeah, so that's more of a necessity than a game.
 
I do regular self checks... stop drinking for a week just to make sure I'm not an alcoholic...
 
alcoholics are notoriously devious ... how do you know your sober self is not just tricking you into drinking again by convincing you you are not an alcoholic !!
 
@JoeWatkins crafty alcoholic bastard :)
 
@Mr.Alien lol lol lol...
 
6:17 AM
noobs
 
@Orangepill I told ya, notoriously devious ... :D
friend done me a cool logo ushow.us
 
@JoeWatkins What goes in the box?
@JoeWatkins Sweet logo though... gist viewer? Getting Fatal error: Cannot redeclare class Worker in - on line 33
 
6:40 AM
yeah gist viewer ... what gist are you running ??
pthreads is loaded btw so you can't declare Worker ...
 
hello friends
 
pita to put in a whole url, will make so "krakjoe/" or "nikic/" brings up list of public gists to choose from ... but stick a url in and you'll get to see output ... this was mainly because none of the other codepad-like-solutions are likely to ever load pthreads ... because of the fear ... I'm not so scared of it !!
 
i want to need some help about install Authorize.net - CIM Payment getway in my X-cart Platinum 4.5.5 version Live sites
can you please help me
 
can't be fucked with code editor, too much effort ... just execution ...
 
we have downloaded Authorize.net - CIM Payemtn getway modules
 
6:43 AM
Morning
 
and put the CIM Modules in my sites root Modules Directory
 
moin @Leri
 
but still can not Display modules in my Admin Side
Can you please send me installation points
Sir
how to install module in x-cart platinum
??
 
@Chetan stop it ... read the room title ... ask your question, if someone knows they will speak ...
 
can any one please help me
 
6:46 AM
@Chetan "Discussion for all things PHP - Don't ask whether someone is here to help you. If someone is around and wants to help they will."
 
i have query for php( x-cart platinum version )
how to install modules in x-cart platinum version
??
 
Good morning!
 
vgm sir
 
moin @Duikboot ... a better mood this morning I trust ...
 
Fcourse! :)
Almost weekend!
 
6:48 AM
:)
 
Hello All
I have Download and Perches Authorize.net - CIM Payment Get-way Modules.

URL:- http://www.bcsengineering.com/

Also, Put the ALL ( authorizenet_cim-45x-1.0.9 ) code in my project root modules directory.

But, Still We can not show Modules for Admin side and can not Enable this modules.

Can you please send me Steps/Points for installation so, we can install this modules.

Help Me Sir.

Thanks
 
@Duikboot Um, what? Morning, btw
 
Yesterday I was angry it was monday... But now I'm fine! :)
 
@Chetan dude, shut up, we heard you the first time ...
 
@Chetan If your Q is on SO you'll get response be patient.
 
6:50 AM
ok sir, which room i am use regarding this Query...?
 
this one, but you don't walk into your doctors office and talk in his face until you get attention
 
At Sir @Chetan what language is it?
Have you guys something like a 'code snippets' collection? Now when I'm looking for a special piece of code I'm going trough all of my projects where it is but I should have some program/administration where I can collect them...
 
@Chetan Also ask for support in their support center, they are commercial, so more likely they will give some instructions. However, also I am pretty sure they already have one.
 
@Duikboot no ... use gist I guess ...
 
@Duikboot If I do something reusable it goes to some class/library, so I don't have to copy/paste, just reference lib and there you go.
 
6:53 AM
That's also a smart way to do it.
 
i am waiting our question REPLY...
Regarding x-cart modules installation STEP
 
you're lucky I can't punch you in the throat ...
@Chetan listen, seriously, we heard the question, there's only a handful of us active, we clearly do not know the answer ... the best advice is use their support if it's commercial ...
 
What do you guys think about D8, I checked out the structure and it looks way better then D7.
 
Strange, I'm getting "send of xx bytes failed (broken pipe)" when attempting to connect to the openssl s_server .. wondering why.
 
@Leri that has it's limits, you don't want to load a bunch of stuff you will never use any of ...
@Jack fpm ?
 
6:59 AM
@Duikboot
i am using Drupal 8
it's better for D7
Enjoy
 
@JoeWatkins No, cli.
 
hmm
yeah strange ...
 
It's just a regular fopen() call to localhost:4433 which is where openssl listens on for testing purposes.
curl doesn't seem to have that issue ... actually, let me check the curl that comes with php.
 
curl doesn't come with php, is linked against shared lib on your system
 
i noe i noe
 
7:01 AM
@JoeWatkins Yes, but if you need only little part of lib, then there are too much stuff in your lib. Well, this applies to most cases and in exceptional cases it's easier to find code in libs.
 
ok just clarifying ...
(they should behave same)
should
 
Have to wait for the ./configure.
Yeah, should be.
It's always a treat when you see "configure: unrecognized options: xxx at the end of the output of ./configure lol
 
Wauw.. as usual I open up my chat screen and read a bit of its history.. and in 2 seconds I have a serious hatred towards Chetan o.O
Seriously.. you talk to the people in this room as if you are paying their wages.
 
Who is giving out money? ;-)
 
Basically: if it's a commercial product.. ask their support desk, your question does not belong here unless it's atleast open source.
Furthermore, i'll quote some rules: Questions concerning problems with code you've written must describe the specific problem — and include valid code to reproduce it — in the question itself. See SSCCE.org for guidance.
 
7:06 AM
Their api is actually pretty decent.
 
"Code -you've-' written"
Jack: that makes me think the support for their decently written api should be decent too :)
 
user652649
someone knows a good php backtrace viewer, maybe made in html+js? something that allows me to examine it in a very visual way?
 
Getting finally a bit familiar with the command line.
 
on windows ?
 
@Wes I think ladybug does that
 
user652649
7:13 AM
@Ocramius thanks, going to try it
 
OSX
 
that's a shell :D
 
user652649
difference between a shell and command line? xD
 
\/
mostly
 
user652649
uh?
 
7:16 AM
just saying, it's referred to as a shell ... if you go to an OSX party (pretty sure they exist) and start talking about your command line, you'll be laughed out of dodge ....
the only real difference is / vs \ is what I meant by \/
 
'An OSX party' :D
 
Anonymous
Hello room 11
 
Anonymous
the legendary wizard is here
 
good mornings
 
morning chaps
 
7:22 AM
Good morning Sir.
 
vgm
D8 is the very good and very better for D7
www.drupal.org
 
Most people here don't like Drupal, on this Channel.
 
Mornings
 
Anonymous
@DaveRandom morning.
 
Anonymous
I have got a question for you
 
Anonymous
7:34 AM
What does "morning" mean ?:p
 
@JoeWatkins I've always wondered where the whole nut analogy comes from (kernel, shell)
@Simon_eQ It means that it is currently time to sleep, but some bastard decided long ago that farmers should dictate everyone's lives
 
Anonymous
And that is Correct!
 
Anonymous
Congratulations sir. You have won ... my respect :)
 
@DaveRandom I'd star that if it was not random crap. :p
 
:-P
 
Anonymous
7:37 AM
I blame roosters too
 
Getting SAN certs to work with stream socket server/client is harder than i imagined =(
 
@Jack orly?
 
Maybe the guide is f*cked up.
 
@Jack Ahh so you're having problem generating a cert for testing?
 
It didn't seem the cert was wrong in any way, it just doesn't work properly :)
 
7:45 AM
@Jack I'm undecided whether I should leave this alive. I was quite pleased with it yesterday but now I'm starting to think that it's a bad plan and you should be explicit. Thoughts? (imagine it's for static content and ignore that it would be better to do it in PHP for now)
@Jack ...and you're not trying to verify against a CA as well, I presume?
Because that ain't gonna work unless you import your CA file as well...
 
man PDO is so effin' cool I feel dirty putting a class wrapper around it...
Like cheating on your mistress, double dirty
 
@jphase What does the wrapper do?
 
@DaveRandom No, self signed :)
 
@DaveRandom Why do you think it's bad?
 
it's a method chaining wrapper like Kohana's query builder so I don't feel TOO bad cause it makes life easy
db::select()->from('table')->where('farts', 'LIKE', 'poop')->asobject(); sorta thing
 
7:47 AM
@DaveRandom It does seem all a bit magical in there :)
 
@Duikboot It's the dynamic nature of it, it just seems directly at odds with the point of access control. If an attacker managed to inject a subdomain DNS record, they could potentially open up and XSS hole. It's not going to cause you a problem (your data is public already, there's nothing that needs to be kept private) and for convenience I'm still quite pleased with it because you'll never have a problem if you suddenly decide you want to create a beta. and access alpha. from it via ajax
I might just put a big fat warning sticker on it
@jphase :'(
 
Oh ok. true point
 
@DaveRandom Funny, apparently a cert without CN is frowned upon lol
I've generated a cert with only SAN
 
@DaveRandom why sad face? U think it's pointless or?
 
But yeh a wrapper is the way to do that kind of thing. @jphase what I would actually do is make an empty class PDOWrapper extends PDO implements DataAccessor {}, and in the DataAccessor interface just define the methods that PDO already implements, so your query builder can type hint for the DataAccessor and you can implement another underlying driver if you want
@jphase I don't like query builders, I like to write SQL. They don't save you any typing and they mask what's really going on (and are usually slooooow compared to just running queries)
Plus it's hard to optimise them for stuff like proper prepared statements that you use more than once
@Jack Ummm... ya think? :-P
"I'm not telling you who I issued this to but here is a list of random people who can use it"
 
7:55 AM
@DaveRandom definitely slower, definitely masks, but I wrote some functions like db::obj('SELECT * FROM ....'); to make it also act as a direct wrapper to the basic PDO functions. I don't want to force the developer to use the builder
 
@DaveRandom Actually, I thought that with subjectAltName you don't actually need the CN.
 
Please don't use a statically accessed db::, use DI
 
It's actually sort of a way for my junior developers to save time since they're new to PDO. It just prepares and allows them to roll back. If they want to use the builder they can.
 
@DaveRandom But are recognized by IDEs, you don't debug strings and when you finish project before release you can take generated queries and run them directly without queryBuilder.
 
DI?
 
7:57 AM
@Jack Technically that's true functionally, but without a CN they wouldn't be BC with implementations built before sAN existed (or impls that don't check for it, I'm sure I heard of one of those recently, where was it now?).
@jphase Dependency Injection
 
@DaveRandom Well yeah, I agree with the BC
 
@jphase In a nutshell, don't do db::, do $db = new db; in the bootstrap and pass it in as an argument to those things that require database access
 
@DaveRandom neat! thanks for the tip
 
@jphase Obligatory link (because that's more or less what you are currently doing)
 
well I'm not really using it for optimizing memory usage, although that's my ultimate goal down the road
I'm more using it for simple syntax atm
 
8:03 AM
momomrorn
 
@Leri What do you mean by "are recognised by IDEs"? I don't put much stock in "you don't debug strings" either, you debug queries at the database, it really doesn't matter that PHP stores them as strings because that's all they are to PHP. (IMHO, YMMV)
 
right now it's namespaced and uses some public static functions for various methods at the beginning of the builder but I'm still somewhat new to advanced OOP :\
the folks in this room > myself so I'm scurred to pastebin code
 
Sem
@PeeHaa nom nom nom
 
passhash.pieterhordijk.com <- test please. And tell whether I am stupid or @DaveRandom is
does it work?
 
@DaveRandom What do you mean by "are recognised by IDEs"? Intellisense without db connectors (depends on query builder though). But, yeah, you're right, it's personal preference.
 
Sem
8:08 AM
@PeeHaa $2y$14$FmC/hTp9rwqWVIV0WvIbHuNXmFaQJpss57KlLYS7sDh07TJKpMsya , I'm just sayin
 
good good
 
@jphase I wouldn't worry about what people in this room think. a) There are a lot of conflicting superiority complexes and b) what the hell do we know anyway? But I think you'll find that everybody here will tell you to use DI instead of static access, that would be the takeaway from this conversation
 
@DaveRandom ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 
Off to university, see you later.
 
@PeeHaa Ummm... 1 sec
@Leri Ahhh right, I don't use autocomplete for anything either :-P
 
8:12 AM
@DaveRandom so I'm reading this atm: net.tutsplus.com/tutorials/php/dependency-injection-in-php which makes sense to me really, but are you saying there's really no need/use/whatever for static functions at all and everything should be $db->select()->blah(); (in the case of my builder)
like in general when it comes to OOP?
 
Only thing I do see now is that safari (at least on mac) doesn't get the main element
 
@DaveRandom I guess, you should. They make life easier. The only disadvantage is that you can maintain typo in name and never notice it.
 
Best comment ever on github @DaveRandom :D
 
Yes, E_PEBKAC I think, I can't reproduce it now.
 
Okay, a cert without CN is actually fine :)
 
8:16 AM
I get the whole daisy chaining of constructors concept, but now I'm wondering why static functions exist...
 
The SAN is tried first, after which CN is attempted.
I just had the wrong name in my peer_name setting :)
Alright, now I can put together the first .phpt for @rdlowrey =D
 
word
 
powerpoint
 
@ircmaxell hows germany?
 
This is pretty coolio: github.com/maroslaw/rainyday.js
 
8:21 AM
@PeeHaa oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh
 
Sem
@PeeHaa Prototypes FTW
 
shiny
@Jack Yes but it's still not BC. Although arguably BC in security related things isn't necessarily productive.
 
It's according to recommendation apparently.
 
Morning
 
Hi everyone
@Jack remember me?
 
8:28 AM
Maybe?
 
i was the one asking paypal's IPN
 
Perhaps that's why I forgot :)
 
Needing a second opinion finally worked the IPN but I have something to clear
lol
you hate paypal? :D
 
Dunno, PayPal works for me, so how can I hate them?
 
Paypal can freeze funds whenever they deem it neccesary.. So I dont know about @Jack.. but I dislike the company :)
 
anyways, I just need to clear a small question , is it true that they have issues sending IPN in sandbox environment but works fine in live (paypal)?
 
@DamienOvereem Good for you :)
 
Please help
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Q: Updating textarea value with CKEditor content in Angular JS

devoI am using latest CKEditor (Standard Version) and based on this question , I have implemented an angular directive like this, var cmsPlus = angular.module('cmsPlus', []); cmsPlus.directive('ckEditor', function() { return { require: '?ngModel', link: function(scope, elm, attr, ngModel)...

 
lol @devo you're on a wrong room maybe?
 
@Jack The whole PUT thing makes no sense to me (specifically, it makes no sense to parse the message entity). That's not what the PUT method is for. The whole thing seems to be based on this fundamentally wrong idea that POST is incompatible with REST.
 
8:38 AM
@DrixsonOseña Posted in javascript room also, no response.
 
@DaveRandom I've seen the request before actually.
It makes sense if you want to send meta data along with a file.
 
@Jack I'm sure you have, it comes up on SO a lot.
@Jack Maybe... I'm not convinced it shouldn't just be POST though.
Still, I'd be +1 on the idea of exposing the MIME parser to userland, even if the current stated reasoning is questionable
I know @rdlowrey would be in favour as well
 
If there are meta fields that go with your file you need multiple PUT requests; one for the file and one for the attributes.
 
@Jack Yeh but that, by definition, needs a handler
One sec
> The fundamental difference between the POST and PUT requests is reflected in the different meaning of the Request-URI. The URI in a POST request identifies the resource that will handle the enclosed entity.
So sayeth the RFC 2616
 
And PUT? The resource itself?
 
8:43 AM
> The PUT method requests that the enclosed entity be stored under the supplied Request-URI.
When you are sending a file + meta-data you are sending a resource, and some extra crap
 
Well, it could be http headers that need to be sent when the resource is requested perhaps?
 
Unless you are sending information that pertains specifically to the file, in which case that information belongs in the headers
 
Ya, you could do X-My-Header stuff too I guess ... I wouldn't exactly feel comfortable with that, though :)
Hmm, Github is acting up. Is it just me?
 
github is kinda slow?
 
curl works fine, but my mind doesn't interpret raw html very well.
 
Cool, a (p)oop badge
 
@Jack I guess there are arguably some standard headers missing from 1.1, when they add PUT they failed to add some headers that go along with it (maybe Author:, for example). But at the same time the protocol was designed to explicitly allow X- prefixed headers for that exact reason. And as soon as you have data that doesn't fit that paradigm, it's going to be information that doesn't pertain to that specific file, and hence it becomes a POST request.
 
@PeeHaa grats!
 
tnx :)
 
hello all
can you plz Ans.. my Question
 
8:50 AM
hola
plz is not a word
neither is ans
 
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Q: how to install Authorize.net - CIM Payment Getway in X-cart Platinum...?

JimmyI have Download and Perches Authorize.net - CIM Payment Get-way Modules. URL:- http://www.bcsengineering.com/ Also, Put the ALL ( authorizenet_cim-45x-1.0.9 ) code in my project root modules directory. But, Still We can not show Modules for Admin side and can not Enable this modules. Can you ...

 
nor is .. correct punctuation
 
@PeeHaa Maybe he's french
 
neither neiter :>
 
i am waiting for my Ans...
 
8:52 AM
...aaaaaand it's GONE!
 
@DrixsonOseña ? :)
 
@PeeHaa Dont know where i've read this one, but it was: "You say plz because it's shorter then please, so I'll say no, because its shorter then yes"
11
 
@DamienOvereem ttly awsm
 
@DamienOvereem lol
 
@PeeHaa :>
 
8:54 AM
@Chetan Seriously man? You are still at it? ....
Can someone PLZ kick this guy ? :)
 
@DamienOvereem you just hit the spot
 
Something tells me the guy got the software from someone else and isn't paying for support from the company itself.
 
@DrixsonOseña that's ZIP in cermani
 
Morning
 
9:05 AM
morning
 
@Ocramius , cermani is what language?
 
Actually get to use __destruct for once.
 
@DrixsonOseña cermani, you know? Where ze cermans live
 
@Ocramius , google provided me the answer "Čermany is a municipality in the Topoľčany District of the Nitra Region, Slovakia." is this part of russia?
 
@DrixsonOseña Slovakia is Slovakia. The country that was together with the Czech Repulic and was known as Tschechosolvakia some years ago.
@DrixsonOseña And with "cermani", @Ocramius is making fun of you. It's ZIP in German. :D
 
@kaiser I love how every other day someone has to explain that :3
 
It's very close to a Monday...
 
Anonymous
 
Anonymous
Order now!!
 
9:20 AM
@kaiser, i am familiar with Tschechosolvakia.

LooL @Ocramius you just want me to do research haha
 
@Ocramius Btw. Thanks for the help on Doctrine. Problem still appears and is somehow unsolvable for me. The two things failing: CouchDB Annotation and manual IDs (with ASSIGNED).
 
Sem
no more teamviewer for webapps:togetherjs.com
 
@kaiser no cluse so far. I also don't know how that stack works
 
@Sem #interesting
 
9:25 AM
@Ocramius So ASSIGNED for Ids only is available in CouchDB stack? Thought that this one is Doctrine basics...
 
Sem
@DaveRandom Just included it inside my current project, works flawlessly
 
@kaiser yes, but I don't know if the problem is annotations, the mapping driver or the silex stuff
that's what I mean, since you don't get any errors
 
Yeah, seems like you remember that :)
 
I suggest coding a functional test outside the silex stack
 
Hm... sounds like a painful suggestion.
 
9:28 AM
hey from Prague again
 
wasn't there something like jsFiddle/Plunker but for PHP?
 
@kaiser just write a functional test
it's no big deal
and it solves the problem once and for all
@ircmaxell ohai
 
@ircmaxell Oooh, fancy. Cultural.
 
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please help with a piece of advice
 
eih
 
Anonymous
9:34 AM
Who know this guy?
 
Anonymous
 
advice: get a PHD. becasue if you can figure out how to do that reliably, you will likely win a nobel prize...
 
@Simon_eQ What level of "knowing" is required for a "yes" answer?
 
Anonymous
A little more than a handshake will do
 
github.com/domnikl/DesignPatternsPHP - pretty decent attempt to document design patterns with code examples.
 
9:35 AM
@Simon_eQ guy or a girl?
 
Anonymous
@Mr.Alien Guy + genius
 
@Simon_eQ I've never shaken his hand, sorry!
 
Anonymous
@salathe then stop wasting my time
 
@Simon_eQ You stop wasting mine!
 
9:36 AM
morning
 
morning @tereško
 
moin
 
@ircmaxell with your retraction from internals, are you abstaining from RFC votes?
 
thats a hell lot of repositories
 
Anonymous
He made composer, and a hell lot of other stuffs.
 
9:38 AM
yes
 
Anonymous
I am doing my intern, probably sitting at the same chair as he did.
 
You're doing him?
Not very professional
 
Anonymous
@Fabien what does You're doing him? sound like inside your head?
 
Sem
Please guys, don't lower the level to sex jokes here.
 
:)
 
9:43 AM
@Simon_eQ me
 
Anonymous
@Gordon don't semi-noise me :p
 
@Sem You mean, raise the level? :)
 
Anonymous
I knew you would btw
 
Anonymous
So, does @igorw
 
Anonymous
because, he used to work with him... i think
 
Sem
9:45 AM
@salathe I guess everyone here is on his own level.
 
Hello Any one give me a guide line to develop the facebook APP for the creating a store in facebook
 
can you me a specific url because i have checked but could not get single hint as well
 
Anonymous
3 Steps To Creating Your Own Online Store On Facebook
Read more at http://www.jeffbullas.com/2011/03/29/3-steps-to-creating-your-own-online-store-on-facebook/#eytdUcgAFto6oXiU.99
 
I saw a "Learn PHP in 15 minutes" post the other day. Those things kind of annoy me. You may as well point a finger at a cheat sheet and say "regex in 5 seconds".
 
9:55 AM
Hello everyone!
 
Hello @KamranAhmed !
 
Hello everyone~
 
Hello @Mr.Alien too
 
@Fabien sure you can learn php in 15 minutes.. if you already know c++ and perl ... and maybe also some java
 
The basics of php can be learned within hours..
 
9:57 AM
@JoranDenHouting hello
 
I did teach my mom some lmao
 
Anonymous
lol
 
@JoranDenHouting actually in minutes, if you know anyother language, say C++
 
@tereško heh. TBH I was guilty of this when I was a noob. I read (partially) Sams teach Yourself PHP in 24 hours
 
Anonymous
@Fabien same here.
 
Anonymous
9:58 AM
My first video-tut was that one.
 
you might notice that "Learn PHP in 15 minutes" doesn't say that it will teach you programming in PHP
 
I first landed w3schools.com! :P
 
^^^ FAIL
 
Anyone of you had experience on Glype Proxy website? Is it profitable/safe?
 
After that all I did was work on as much projects as I can..
 

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