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2:00 PM
I agree, but he doesn't. He uses "regularity", lemme find it. Also, is that talk recorded?
 
Does anybody here have a reference to a correct implementation of a pipe in OOP?
 
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no idea, but it was recorded before
 
@DaveRandom Well, one option is to write with unmanaged C++ and interpolate with C# but I want to avoid that.
@BenjaminGruenbaum That would be nice if I wrote serializer. :)
 
@ircmaxell thanks, I'll look at it. I think this is Dror's interesting paper cs.huji.ac.il/~feit/papers/MCC13EmpSE.pdf
 
2:02 PM
Actually that is what I do for other stuff
 
@Leri It sounds like you're going to have to do that anyway tbh...
 
@Leri I thought you did something more similar to what I did but it doesn't sound so , I do however know the people in Redmond who can answer your question and if you can phrase it I can certainly get it to them.
 
"a service that backs up music, videos, documents, emails, iTunes, photos and pictures, and stores them in my butt. " God I love this extension. :D
 
@ircmaxell I think that paper shows that cyclomatic complexity measures pretty much nothing. Anyway I'll see that lecture now - thanks. I like the picture analogy
 
it doesn't measure nothing
it measures something very significant
it's just not an absolute number (meaning larger means more complex). It's a relative number rather than absolute one. Trend analysis is awesome...
 
2:06 PM
I barely understand how just any code could be automatically analyzed - if it's good or bad :\
 
@hakre Haven't seen you a long time. How are you? Can you have a look at this question? stackoverflow.com/questions/19855997/… Would like to here what you say
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum I am way too busy now, I'll form question and ping you if you don't mind. :)
 
@Leri sure
 
Thanks. ;)
See you later, @all
 
@ircmaxell Ok, let me rephrase that - there are way better ways to measure code complexity that involve its regularity in regards to the whole systems. Constructs that repeat, even if they appear complicated, are easier in practice for developers to work with, high consistency is much more important than low CC. Anyway, I'll see that lecture and hopefully learn a thing or two :)
 
2:09 PM
I want to see it too
 
I don't disagree with that
look at the youtube video I posted
Same talk, with some tweaks
 
I'm doing that right now :)
 
@ircmaxell where?
 
8 mins ago, by ircmaxell
 
2:10 PM
ah, that was a link. thanks
I'm blind and have not noticed white triangle :p
 
lol
 
yeah, pretty easy ;-)
 
oh crap.. thats what you get for thinking too difficult ..
thx ;p
 
2:17 PM
hmm, I think it may be PipeResult Pipe#pipe(PipeResult $input)
 
five-to-seven-eleven, bla-bla-bla :DDD @ircmaxell you're great :p
 
where PipeResult { function getOutput(); function getError(); function getExitCode(); }
 
huh?
five-to-seven-eleven? what?
 
@ircmaxell that's your phrase :p
 
Yay. Im a regexp newbie.. and how my head hurts.
 
2:20 PM
good morning
 
morning was about 8 hours ago
but good morning .
 
@DamienOvereem depends of GMT :p
 
@AlmaDo I am confused
 
when we come in it's morning and when we leave is night ;)
 
2:21 PM
So. Next time say Good (ugt) morning ;p
 
damn it
 
hmm... doesn't work... pipes may live over time
 
@DamienOvereem okay :)
 
@ircmaxell that's from your video. I'm watching that right now. There are some funny parts there (but that's great, because your explanations are very clear - and your language is very correct since I'm non-native with english. but I'm understanding all of it)
 
I want the reverse of this page's layout with --> on the left, someone gimme cross browser css to make that happen
 
2:22 PM
@Artohave you found your problem?
 
ok...
 
ah just float left worked ... does that work everywhere ?
 
@JoeWatkins yes.
 
@ircmaxell my colleagues looks on me with suspicion :p (I'm in place where there's N-Path = 25b for one function). huh.. I'll better to watch that at home :D
 
just keep watching
the new version of the talk shows a function with an n-path of 10^83 (2^330)
 
2:29 PM
but I'm smiling :p and that's so interesting so I'm not noticing that other's attention is on me :p
 
wait it's not working in chrome
 
@ircmaxell :O
(question: does it have nested functions?)
 
nope
and it's in a popular open source platform
 
@ircmaxell yes, but first bad function sample looks better (because of high contrast with previous good function)
 
(unused code is silly, when I see large chunks of commented/unused code I think - hey, don't you have source control?)
 
2:34 PM
@ircmaxell can you tell me about secret method of testing that function? Or did you really filled Greenland's isle with microSD ? :DDD
 
;-)
the secret is that it's not tested ;-)
 
:D
 
@JoeWatkins do I still need to do --enable-apcu=shared or did you fix that issue since then?
 
@ircmaxell what the... I don't even...
 
I'll continue watching at home :p For now, I'm off :p
 
2:38 PM
I'll give you a hint. It's in PHPBB
 
crap
now I know it's true meaning
 
:-P
 
@ircmaxell just quick question. that cubic relationship with CC is from math dispersion ?
or similar?
 
@AlmaDo it was designed mathematically...
I think it was experimentally determined, IIRC
 
@ircmaxell at first glanve it's kind of math standard deviation
 
@ircmaxell Are you speaking at true north this year?
 
I'm just going to leave this here:
 
@Incognito considering I'm in Berlin, and TN is today, I don't think so :-P
 
Dang :p
I didn't see you here so I was curious :p
 
2:42 PM
bye all :p
 
zz
 
looks like i am going to be in new york for new years @ircmaxell @cheesemac :]
also, we're stopping off in virginia to ride the creeper which we just rode last weekend.. 18 miles downhill, its so awesome
 
awesome!
let me know when you arrive, and let's grab a drink!
 
@ircmaxell oh, you'll be in town? what a rarity :P
 
lol
I'm in town a lot, and out a lot
I'm somewhere most of the time though
 
2:47 PM
i am going to travel like you one day, it will probably just take me a lot longer :]
 
Well, get working on your presentation skills :-D
had a weird experience today.
 
@ircmaxell nice presentation, although I'm not really sure what you're suggesting. You show an interesting overview of a field and the tools to use but I don't understand what developers are supposed to do it in practice.
 
someone asked me to autograph their laptop...
 
It was very well presented though.
 
@ircmaxell lmao, at least it wasn't a body part
 
2:50 PM
@BenjaminGruenbaum that's the point. I'm giving an intro, and a "this is what's there"
@CarrieKendall yeah... that's fair
 
were you flattered?
 
I was sort-of blown away
 
Anyone feel like building a Levenshtein Automaton in PHP?
 
Does anyone know anything about PayPal IPN here?
 
Yes, someone does.
 
2:51 PM
Its vague documentation is killing me at times
 
@ircmaxell Did you sign the screen? >8D
 
also, just a heads up, we opted to plan to party all night on new years eve rather than paying a grand to stay in a hotel for 6 hours so, be warned :P
 
@SweetieBelle What is the difference between a "txn_type" of "subscr_failed" and a "txn_type" of "subscr_payment" but with a "payment_status of "Failed"?
 
@David I have no idea, I avoid PayPal at all costs. People in here know the IPN though.
 
@CarrieKendall I am not meeting you that night :-P
 
2:54 PM
The documentation is so vague. They just expect you to spend hours of trial and error instead of just explaining what the hell these little things are which would take 5 mins
 
@David then figure it out, and document it so others won't have that problem ;-)
 
@ircmaxell I am working on it but getting a bit frustrated now
 
I would help if I knew... sorry...
 
It's okay
 
2:56 PM
Need more tabs?
 
@ircmaxell haha fair enough, we'll resume respectful disposition after new year eve, :P
 
@David God no. That piece of shit is the worst documentation I have ever seen
 
:-P
 
    I'm had to edit my current script, but now i get this error:
    A Database Error Occurred

    Error Number: 1054

    Unknown column 'customer' in 'on clause'

    SELECT idofferte,noofferte,CONCAT(namecustomer,' ',lastname) customer,DATE_FORMAT(dateofferte,'%d/%m/%Y')dateofferte,(SELECT SUM(pu*duration) FROM service2 WHERE offerte=idofferte)subtotal,discount,btw,transport,material FROM offerte INNER JOIN customer ON idcustomer=customer WHERE 1=1 ORDER BY CAST(SUBSTR(noofferte,9) AS UNSIGNED) DESC LIMIT 0,25
 
now I just have to draw a bunch more tables and hook up events ... then we got code browser for files ... explain.so will do whole projects but to be able to deconstruct a file on the command line is coool ...
 
2:57 PM
@JoeWatkins could you swap the line of code with the opcodes it describes? So the code comes first?
 
@PeeHaa I remember using it years ago for normal payments. I got by, but now I am implementing it with dynamic subscriptions which needs good documentation to help but it does not exist. They have not updated one of their documentations since I first looked at them years ago I think. It's awful
 
yeah
will doo
 
I think it would be much easier to read...
 
yeah I've thought that a few times ...
bottom of the file is confusing too
as there is rarely a return statement to show for files ...
 
Shit… it's already Friday. The week was too short. 3 days ill … and only two days in school…
 
2:59 PM
@JoeWatkins Well, then include a blank line (you should be able to detect)
 
that's what I was doing and I thought it looked odd ...
 
fair enough...
 
Why asp is better then php goo.gl/BvjiQ
 
Unfortunately, this SME-music-content is not available in Germany because GEMA has not granted the respective music publishing rights.
3
 
(.. really couldn't resist.. forgive me.. :)
owwwww
 
3:03 PM
peace nerd
 
that has to be fav'ed
 
I'm rolling into my 66th working hour this week.
I can't concur on it being too short.
 
@JoeWatkins Did you really use two spaces as indent? :-/ in your explain ext?
 
@bwoebi ruby style
 
@ircmaxell use a proxy…
 
3:05 PM
nope
 
hmm?
 
@bwoebi 2-space indentation
 
I don't want to view that video
 
@SweetieBelle never heard of such a style…
 
:-P
 
3:05 PM
@ircmaxell ah^^
 
@bwoebi Most ruby devs do that
 
Neither I know anything about ruby, but the fact that it exists.
 
@bwoebi I used it at university for a couple of projects
It's interesting
 
@AlmaDo Creating something to give me all levenshtein variants within a score for a given string is... not easy to think about :P
 
@CarrieKendall That's awesome! You know the exact dates?
 
3:17 PM
Thanks anyway guys, I see that everyone is bussy. I'll post my question on a forum. (:
 
we'll definitely be in from new years eve til the 4th
 
ok sounds good :)
 
might arrive earlier than that but my birthday is the 28th and my family is tired of me being out of town for it :P but those dates are pretty definite
 
I might be in France until the 2nd but I don't know yet
I'll let you know as soon as I take my tickets, but I usually come back to NY on the 2nd
so that would work!
 
hah, figures :P i was going to invite you down to VA to ride the creeper. do you do rail trails?
 
3:21 PM
@JoeWatkins << likes to see that live
 
@CarrieKendall Like with a bike or running?
 
@cheesemacfly bike
 
that's what I am living for :D
 
its a 34 mile trail and the first 18 are strictly downhill, no stops
 
looks cool
but it's kinda far from NY
 
3:23 PM
@bwoebi 20 minutes you can run it on your comp
 
hah, its kind of far from AL too, didn't stop me
 
@JoeWatkins I'll wait ;-)
 
yep, you're right :)
 
either way, i'd suggest doing it once in your life, it was the best ride i've had so far :D
 
but sin't it better in summer or at least spring?
 
3:24 PM
I'm doing things I hate here
 
hmm?
 
I got a function with <?php tags and html markup in it and everything ...
 
you mean frontend dev?^^
@JoeWatkins refactor! all the things!
 
@cheesemacfly it was a bit chilly, but the trees are unbelievably beautiful in the fall
 
ok, good to know!
 
3:25 PM
and you ride aside this creek for most of the way down the mountain, if we weren't trying to set a 20mph pace we would've stopped a million times to take pics
 
I see. When are you going there?
 
we're going to hit it again on the way up to the city, so most likely the 29th and 30th
 
@CarrieKendall We should stop on the way back too!!
 
@Pandagrrl :] indeed
 
ok, so yeah I'll probably be in France between 24th to 2nd or something like this and if not, that's because I'll be working :/
 
3:28 PM
no worries :] let me know if your plans change
 
Sure, as soon as I know myself!
But if you make it to NY, I won't have any excuse :P
 
@HamZa Okay, let me try it.^^ Will begin now^^ (16:30)
 
haha indeed, plus if we meet up at the same time, you can get @ircmaxell to sign your left boob
he's kind of a big deal
 
ahah, not sure that's the kind of stuff he does :D
 
fuck sake
can't get the css right
 
3:36 PM
first done.
 
@JoeWatkins eh?
 
second done
 
This regex crossword is awesome.. :D Nice find @crypticツ
 
@MackieeE I didn't find it, it was posted earlier by someone else as a chat transcript, so no one noticed =oP
 
Ahh, well =] Just shows you'll a little more popular then huh :P

Although, I wish the vertical textlines were at a 45 degree angle rather than reading top down :|
 
3:43 PM
@JoeWatkins trade? You do my all possible levenshtein variants and I do your CSS? :)
 
third done.
 
@Fabien fair enough? XP
@Ibra038 you didn't post a question... what you posted was a block code..
 
forth done.
fifth done.
Total time: 20 minutes.
The one I had to spend the most time with was the second, because I wasn't sure anymore what a \1 means^^
@HamZa how much time did it take you?
 
arrrrghgghh
 
@JoeWatkins hmm?
Just encountered a conflict upon pushing?^^
 
3:54 PM
yeah I did, what was that ?
if you pull now
you'll get what I screenied earlier
and in ff
it'll display correctly
but in chrome it does not ..
 
@JoeWatkins I had committed?
 
fix it fix it fix it ...
what did you change ?
no conflict actually, merged ok
 
ah ok. Look at my commit… just made compiler quiet^^
 
ah right cool
 
Interesting. Levenshtein doesn't give two shits about the length of the string if the comparative is the same length.

oooooooooooooooo vs ooooooooooooooox
is the same score as
oo vs ox
 
3:58 PM
all very interesting @Fabien ... but have you fixed my css yet !!!
 
@JoeWatkins lol.
 
html { display: none; }
Done
 

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