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12:00 PM
And what does it improve to open and close connections?
 
@ircmaxell Well... he has done a nice job :-)
 
yup
 
@DanielsPitkevičs maybe i will back after half an hour but not confirm that i will back or not
 
a client decides to outsource overseas because you're too expensive, then starts asking you all of these questions on how to login to FTP, etc. what do?
 
@CarrieKendall does the client have a support contract?
 
12:09 PM
nope
we were on an hourly basis
 
@CarrieKendall Even better when charging per hour. Tell the client you are willing to answer a simple question, but that you have to charge when there are coming more questions
 
yeah, i thought about doing that. he is into me for about 20 hours at the moment. i have considered politely writing him off, but he is ignorant and doesnt have the slightest idea what he is doing..
 
@CarrieKendall It depends on the client, but most clients (should have) peace with the fact that you aren't running a free service.
 
@PeeHaa right, i just don't have the inclination to help him at all. i already sent him all of his credentials with details of what they do but he is kind of an asshole
> can you please send a short list of steps for the new programmer to access the programming language? The programmer is used to accessing ftp through filezilla, so this may be new to him. Thanks, Robert
5
 
hey
 
12:22 PM
@CarrieKendall What does that even mean "accessing the programming language"?
sry mega ultra super ping
 
made me go:
 
lol
 
hey buddy, i found out why they are inexpensive ;]
 
@CarrieKendall to access the programming language I just don't know what to say.
 
hi everybody
 
12:23 PM
hi @NikiC :]
 
Hiya Nikita
 
@NikiC Hello :)
@CarrieKendall Totally Off-Topic, but how did you quote in such manner?
 
@Whisperity >
 
followed by a space
 
Hello everyone :)
 
12:25 PM
teamwork high 5
 
high 5 :)
 
teamwork sucks, unless you have good ones.
 
@OmeidHerat ola
@OmeidHerat Carrie and I are good
 
Hola @PeeHaa
well then, everything is all set .
 
Hilo folks.
 
12:26 PM
yes, we are currently solving how to access a programming language
 
lolz
 
@Bracketworks Hilo
 
@CarrieKendall I saw that stared line, Couldn't figure out what is the problem :P
 
hehe :P
 
Hi, I am getting response as "For security purpose this page is denied by server" when upload flv format files using ajax uploader. Any Ideas ?
 
12:27 PM
but I do know a solution though, send the developer over to the Lab where server is.
@CarrieKendall problem solved.
:D
 
If you would have an API which allows access only by domain names, how would you check the JSONP request origin? and are there any security layers I could Implement? (I am not using keys currently)
 
@Dinesh what website ? what server ? what sort of ajax upload ?
 
@OmeidHerat Thanks for your reply. I am using this valums.com/ajax-upload uploader for my php application.
@OmeidHerat server is a linux m/c and installed WAMP
 
@ircmaxell 3 blogs by July 10th, busy month huh?
 
@Dinesh WAMP on linux ?
you are in the dark side of PHP if you don't go with LAMP!
 
12:32 PM
@OmeidHerat hey sorry, just confirmed with my admin , we are using LAMP..... :)
 
@CarrieKendall 1 more is finalized for Friday, and I'm writing another for tomorrow
and 2 more are in-progress...
 
@ircmaxell killing it ?
 
@ircmaxell what are the upcoming topics?
 
farewell PHP
 
peace @webarto
 
12:35 PM
let's see. One is a response to @NikiC's post about XML. One is a reading list (suggested books). One is the next in the PHP's Source for PHP Developers series. And the others, well, when they are ready...
 
ooo looking forward to PHP's Source for PHP Developers
 
what is the problem with base64_encode
 
there are no problems
 
well... not true... last week it admitted to drinking too much
 
@OmeidHerat please advice on my issue
 
12:40 PM
lol
 
Windows Apache MySQL and PHP on Linux... oxymoron?
 
@Dinesh you have to provide more specific information, I can't come over and fix it.
 
sudo apt-get install tasksel
sudo tasksel install lamp-server^
done and done
 
@ircmaxell Did you already finish the last one?
 
@rlemon AMPL smells better than LAMP ..
 
12:42 PM
last one?
 
I LOVE LAMP!
 
@OmeidHerat yes, my issue is , I am always getting "For security purpose this page is denied by server" when trying to upload flv files
 
@rlemon I don't.
 
@ircmaxell bout objects
 
Ah, not yet
 
12:43 PM
@rlemon I mean the word.. I run an AMPL server, sounds nice than LAMP server
 
I'm targeting Monday for that one
 
@ircmaxell k
 
I LOVE LAMP!
 
I say I keep unix servers alive.
 
12:44 PM
And again me asking for advice in quering.
 
that sounds heaps more funky.
though truth be told, it's unix-like |:
 
@OmeidHerat As i said i am using ajax uploader (valums.com/ajax-upload) Do i need to set content type for flv format ?
 
there's no nice acronym for nginx, php-fpm, percona, freebsd :( .. nppf
although if i used apache it could be FAPP
 
nice
 
good one.
 
12:46 PM
@NikiC I'll post a review for you once I finish it (to verify it)
 
I have table which consists of fields master and slave - both are pointing to one table which is key/value type. I can with one sql query join all field I need primary from the base table and after that go through master and slave table till I find I which points to correct type and then get that id?
 
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the onion has cost me 30 minutes of productivity this morning :[
 
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@Leigh Then what's NikiC do now?
 
12:49 PM
@MikeB Hey, you talking about me again without ping?!
 
we were talking about system architectures
 
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What's new and exciting in the world of PHP
 
wow, so i am going to go get some coffee
 
well you've ruined the fun for this room ircmaxell. time to actually start working.
 
12:51 PM
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Don't make me go gallery on you...
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@ircmaxell what is this all about ? we know you are an admin.
 
what is what about?
 
@rlemon Man, my train of thought stops at every station. I went from that clip, to other Anchorman clips, to 1970s action news segments, to classic Colt45 commercials.
 
Do i need to give more info on my issue ? I get freeze bcoz of this issue!!!
 
I am surprised you didn't bin that one, I am pretty sure everyone here thinks it's not a big deal to keep it PG.
besides, it wasn't anything offensive or rude. but anyways.
 
12:57 PM
It was something that wasn't PG...
 
just saying
For All Practical Purposes (FAPP) is a approach towards the problem of incompleteness of every scientific theory and the usage of asymptotical approximations. Usually, when a physicist makes an approximation - which can't be justified on rigorous grounds - he tends to justify it by saying that the results obtained are good for all practical purposes (FAPP), meaning that they agree with our experience and approximation errors cannot be detected in practical measurements (for instance, if the error is smaller than the measurement resolution). FAPP theories are incomplete or lackly-based ...
i mean common
it's a acronym - there can me however many meanings for it you want
get off your high horse and just go with the flow.
 
Mamma warned me there'd be people like you
 
read the context of the discussion and we were fine.
 
@Dinesh What problem are you working on?
 
now i'm outta here
 
1:04 PM
@ircmaxell Btw, I think it would make sense to add more owners to the room ;)
 
@rlemon seriously? who are you?
 
useless argument is useless
 
@MikeB Thanks, My problem is , When uploading flv file using ajax uploader , I am always getting "For security purpose this page is denied by server" with "403 Forbidden" as error. I am using wamp on linux m/c.
 
:D @NikiC
 
1:05 PM
I'll add a few more later
 
I'm the guy who speaks out when he sees something he doesn't agree with.
 
@ircmaxell Hows it going? :-)
 
@Feeds Thanks :P
 
@MikeB When I upload other files i can able to upload to my uploaded directory
 
I see that a breakoff room was created.
 
1:05 PM
@rlemon: a lot of us have worked very hard to keep this room from becoming IRC.
 
@Neal You mean the indian php room, or the fun php room?
 
@Leigh The Fun PHP Room. There was an Indian one?
 
and aside from @tereško's antics, it has been much better...
 
Sounds like the beginning of a good joke: "A Jew walks into an Indian chat room..."
 
ok. you clearly have no sense of humour and wanna play internet police. cool. i'm outta here for now.
 
1:07 PM
@rlemon with all due respect, from my perspective you're a guy who is putting a lot of spam in my way
 
even at the most prestigious workspaces there is room for a bit of joke.
 
@rlemon and you're a guy who talks to people without knowing who they are and what they do
 
a bit of joke I don't mind. As long as it's clean. And that wasn't clean by many interpretations
 
while, somethings are really just not good-enough for this room, this time it was 'bit of overreact. I am not gonna lie.
 
this is a usefull room exactly BECAUSE ircmaxell does what he is doing
 
1:08 PM
Jun 29 at 10:00, by NikiC
wtf there is another PHP room: http://chat.stackoverflow.com/rooms/12382/php
 
@markustharkun I think @rlemon knows very well who @ircmaxell is ^^ He isn't new in this room :)
 
@ircmaxell What was the joke? What haapened?
 
I can live with that. But I'd rather act and be questioned for acting, than not act and drive people away/be questioned for not acting
 
@markustharkun you will be added on the owners room, just give it some time :)
 
No, not really
 
1:10 PM
@OmeidHerat so you're assuming I'm trying to gain something with what I say, well, you're wrong
 
I'm out. Later
 
@ircmaxell later.
 
@Leigh Yeah i know it does, but im creating a gas mileage app that will be written in RoR and i want to know if it would be a good fit for Mongo/sqllite the app will have user authentication, multiple vehicles per user, and multiple fillups per vehicle.
 
@markustharkun well, do you know what happened ?
now go and scroll up.
 
@Mike It's a good fit for mongo's document storage, but maybe not for something that begs for multiple serevers
 
1:12 PM
@OmeidHerat yes, and it's not the first time rlemon is posting off topic images, etc.
 
@Dinesh What does your log say?
 
@markustharkun So you think off-topic should be binned ?
and besides, this time it wasn't even for images or mems.
 
@NikiC added to room owners? Now he will win every discussion with me :(
;)
 
@OmeidHerat no, I think this room should be kept in a way that it is possible to follow it without being spammed
 
5 mins ago, by Omeid Herat
while, somethings are really just not good-enough for this room, this time it was 'bit of overreact. I am not gonna lie.
 
1:13 PM
@PeeHaa Yes! Everything that does not match my opinion will be binned immediately!
 
anyways, I am not gonna argue over nothing.
 
@markustharkun If you want to be serious, there's plenty of questions out there that need answering. While this is a PHP discussion room, that doesn't mean we can't have a joke and a laugh. If this place is supposed to be deadly serious, let me know, I can leave now
 
@MikeB I am always see forbidden error in my firebug console
 
wait @NikiC is a guy?
i always read it "Niki C"
 
@Mike Nikita does sound a bit feminine ;)
 
1:15 PM
:(
 
@Dinesh Your apache error log. Apache is refusing your request.. I have to imagine it would log the occurance somewhere
 
it does.
 
@NikiC It's ok, Leigh is primarily a girls name, my parents must have hated me too.
 
allllllriiiight
 
@NikiC something that I always wanted to mention, haha finally someone did. :P
 
1:16 PM
yeah i figured you were female too
 
if I was, I'd be an ogre among women
 
In my eyes if you have a questionable first name, i always assume you're female. Its just better for me to imagine ol'e nikita up there.
 
@Leigh Now you are just an ogre among men? ;)
 
much more pleasant :)
 
@PeeHaa *ogre among ogres
 
1:17 PM
I knew he was a guy, but his nick name always kind of felt on the other side of the bridge. Probably because of Niki, Nicki.
 
"Warning, if you have a feminisque name. It will be assumed that you are female. Do not take offense when you are called out on this"
 
@NikiC: Don't worry, they're just jealous of your new found glory as a room owner.
Don't let the meanies get to you
 
@Mike funny though, I have a female friend who we call mikie.
 
is she butch?
 
butch ?
or dutch ?
 
1:20 PM
@OmeidHerat built like a russian olympic shotputter
 
I guess not.
 
@Mike I like tea "old" Nikita way better though
 
haha you said tea
 
ha-ha-haa so did you said tea.
 
nikita is still one hot woman
 
1:22 PM
*the ;)
wrong multiping
 
so @Leigh can you still do one-to-many relations with mongo across multi tables?
 
ugh. stupid chat... if you don't actually rejoin the room and dismiss the notifications they don't leave!
 
i vote you all use @Mike in all your messages to make MikeB wake up.
 
@Mike why would you want to do relations in mongo? You can use DBRefs
 
<-- knows absolutely zilch about mongo
 
1:24 PM
Well
think of a document as a nested array
 
and i figures itd be a good way to learn :)
 
sure, its a useful skill to have, i read something about it being one of the fastest trending job skills at the moment
 
okay but how do i access the programming language?
 
you want to access it directly? or from an extension?
 
ding ding ding ding
 
1:25 PM
> 2 > can you please send a short list of steps for the new programmer to access the programming language? The programmer is used to accessing ftp thr... - 1h ago by Carrie Kendall
 
@Mike niceeeee
 
@CarrieKendall did you found a way to access the programming language yet ?
 
but in all srsness @Leigh yeah i just mostly want to learn it because i really think the scalability of it is neato.
not trying to troll.
 
@OmeidHerat well in the end I found the solution, I am agree with all <--
 
I really enjoyed working with it, I just didn't feel my data was making the most of it
the vector indexing is really cool
 
1:26 PM
i'll have to pickup some books on it
to really grasp the concept
 
@CarrieKendall great, I hope my suggestion with sending the developer to the server lab has been of any help. :P
 
the php execution limit of 30 seconds is just for mysql type things or its its also implement on foreach() loop ?
 
@Mike I might be able to help you out there ;)
 
@Mike , naah .. the new one feels wrong
 
@DanishIqbal has nothing to do with mysql, max_execution_time is the maximum time you allow a PHP script to run
 
1:30 PM
@ircmaxell good read
 
hi I am new to chat, is there anybody who can help me in sugarcrm
I mean can they recommend good book for it ?
 
@AnandJoshi That has nothing to with PHP
and welcome ^_^
 
@markustharkun as i remember one of my php continuously for more than hour but with out mysql and foreach()
using cron job
 
@Mike how can I give you a link without making it public? ;)
 
sugarcrm is built in php... isnt it ?
 
1:32 PM
@DanishIqbal in that case you either restarted the script from time to time or you had a long max execution time set
@AnandJoshi yes, it is
 
thanks @neal
 
DM me on twitter
@gorelative
 
@markustharkun both not
 
@DanishIqbal are you sure the script you're starting with cron uses the same PHP config as the web server does?
 
so can I get any help for sugarcrm here ?
 
1:34 PM
@markustharkun yes
 
@AnandJoshi I don't know it and I don't know a book
 
@markus ooookkkk......
 
@Leigh I'm used to it :P
 
@DanishIqbal is the script setting execution time on the fly with set_time_limit() ?
 
I even got some official letters to the name of "Fr. Nikita Popov" (Mrs. Nikita Popov)
 
1:37 PM
@markustharkun no there is no any settings simple code
 
mmm google chrome frame
 
@DanishIqbal so what does this script do which is triggered by cron?
 
I can hardly think of anything useful to do with php that takes longer than 20 secs.
@DanishIqbal what are you trying to do ?
 
its actually post on my all groups wall in facebook on my behalf using my access token and set the duration between each post is random
and the script completes in more than hour
 
@OmeidHerat You can't?
 
1:40 PM
such an awesome picture
 
@NikiC I can but there is always better alternative for processor intensive tasks, and ehem web crawling isn't my thing either. :)
 
@OmeidHerat i want to set long sleep() in php between foreach() loop
 
@DanishIqbal and what is not working ?
 
i miss NYC
 
1:42 PM
@Mike you should check your general SO notifications
 
@rlemon haha, I see what you did there.
 
php execution time limit problem
 
I have a problem too, but it's about drinking.
nvm.
 
I have a X or Y problem is useful when you go to your doctor, if you want help over internet you should explain it my friend.
 
1:43 PM
@DanishIqbal set_time_limit(0); which part you don't understand?
 
@rlemon are you in NYC?
 
rlemon, Ontario
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@DanishIqbal what's your setting for max_input_time ?
 
oh thats from teletech
thanks @Leigh, im learning RoR at the same time so this will be great
 
I'm starting to feel like I have to learn Ruby and Python... all of the good projects I want to contribute to lately are either .rb or .py
 
1:48 PM
once uv learnt it dont u wanna teach me?
 
@rlemon if you have to pick one. Python > Ruby
 
ohh for sure
I really want to learn Python because ... well i'm a linux user and I see all of these cool scripts written in python. and also I read it's leaps and bounds faster than Ruby and PHP
 
What can't you do in PHP though?
 
@rlemon Don't learn Ruby. Learn Python.
 
google.com/flights -> alllright where can i go for cheap
 
1:51 PM
@rlemon The performance aspect is no true. All scripting languages (minus JS) are in about the same league ;)
 
@NikiC js isn't slow... js makes it really really easy to produce slow code.
 
@rlemon That's why I said minus JS. It's the scripting language that isn't slow
 
ohh sorry I misread that
why I haven't learned Ruby or Python: I like braces in my code.... whitespace to denote function blocks is a joke.
 
Because it is pretty much the only scripting language that is subject to heavy competition ^^
 
Hi. I have a very simple syntaxing doubt
may i?
 
1:53 PM
@rlemon I think that's mainly a matter of habit. Once you get used to it whitespace is probably okay too ^^
 
@Mike only goes from SFO?
 
no
@Leigh from phx to wherever for a weekend getaway
 
@NikiC probably... but having never had to watch that... it is insanely annoying
 
@Mike for me it wont let me select any other "from" airport
 
@Mike I'm there right now
 
1:54 PM
really @ircmaxell, hot as hell huh ? =)
 
@NikiC Python/Ruby just remind me of CoffeeScript (I know it should be the other way around... but hey, this is the order I was exposed to them in) and I HATE CoffeeScript
 
no kidding
 
Yeah I don't like CoffeScript either
 
@MadhulikaMukherjee just ask
 
I don't like it for its Ruby/Perl-ness
 
1:58 PM
what are you doing in AZ? I live here.
 
Flying from Philly is expensive, Baltimore is like 40-70 bucks cheaper
 

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