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Ell
10:00 PM
I hope I'm not female
 
user142019
@Ell Why?
 
oh, I am actually excited about work. My team are going to be starting on an actual new product, and might even be allowed to use git :O
 
@Xeo did you link the question?
 
¬_¬ yes, my job is so exciting, I get excited about using git
 
Xeo
@MooingDuck Ah, no, we kinda discussed it in here by now
 
10:01 PM
yep it does
 
Ell
Because I'm pretty sure I have a penis
 
user142019
It's not ClearCase so don't complain.
 
Xeo
'twas about the deduction and conversion thing
 
Ell
Like 70%
 
software engineering sucks
 
user142019
10:01 PM
 
@Ell dude, wtf, I was joking, ya know
 
@Xeo I had this from before, which does the sorting question, but it's all hard coded to his types and names (but three way instead of two vectors)
 
@rightfold o_0 "I get excited about using git" <- how is that complaining?
 
user142019
I thought it was sarcasm!
 
user142019
Because of the ¬_¬!
 
10:02 PM
@Ell engorged clitoris
 
I have filesystem errors.
 
Ell
@Tony I know :) it was in response to rightfolds "why?", it was an unfunny joke by me sorry Haha
 
@Xeo tried to simplify and generalize it to this, but ran into the operator<(ref<T>, ref<T>) thing :(
 
@Ell lol
 
Ell
10:02 PM
I'm mobile I cant reply to specific messages
 
user142019
You can.
 
god damn spelling, @EtiennedeMartel I could really do with those free English lessons man
 
user142019
You just have to magically know their ids.
 
Ell
Enraged clitoris
 
10:03 PM
@thecoshman You could also take French lessons, ya know.
Just for kicks.
 
@ScottW Everytime you say "Ellen" I think about Ellen Degeneres
 
user142019
Engraved clitoris.
 
she's awesome
 
@EtiennedeMartel let's get the basics sorted first :P
 
user142019
I wish I were black.
 
user142019
10:04 PM
Or blue. Blue is cool.
 
user142019
You're black lunged.
 
user142019
Because you smoke.
 
I quit bitch!
 
user142019
Did you quit smoking, by the way, @TonyTheLion?
 
user142019
10:04 PM
Two years ago you mentioned it.
 
user142019
@TonyTheLion OIC neat.
 
Its been like a year now
 
user142019
My father stopped smoking.
 
Cause I'm awesome
 
user142019
10:05 PM
And after three years he started smoking again. xD
 
ahahahahah
I'm having the same trouble with C++
 
user142019
@ScottW Come to the Netherlands and smoke a joint.
 
its fucking terrible
 
recently I've been writing iterators where it::operator-> doesn't actually yield a pointer. :/ it just does't really work for input iterators and generic algorithms don't use it anyway
 
Ell
Well done Tony!
 
user142019
10:05 PM
@TonyTheLion Good lion.
 
user142019
@ScottW Try some MDMA.
 
Xeo
@MooingDuck Don't have an operator-> then?
 
Ell
@Tony don't hate c++! Maybe you just need a fresh project as opposed to old work one?
THC
 
@Ell no, I need to mow lawns or some shit
programming is killing all the life I have left in me
 
10:06 PM
@Xeo that's probably a much better idea
 
yea <3
 
Xeo
You guys can become cleaners! :D
 
yay
we'll be garbage collectors
 
Ell
Haha
 
OMG, I discovered we have a singleton in our C++ algorithm code
 
Ell
10:07 PM
Do you have hobbies Tony?
 
arghhhh I died a little today
 
Xeo
But really @Tony, either your project sucks donkey cock, or... I don't know. How can C++ be so problematic for you?
 
@Ell Yes, I have hobbies, its called watching TV series
or driving or making love to Scott
 
Xeo
Hm... I considered writing an answer to the sorting question, but then the new UHC S12 episodes popped up. Sorry @MooingDuck <3
 
@Xeo I don't know. Just nothing ever fucking works. So frustrating. Not sure if its my skill or this code or what.
its rather demotivating at times
and I'm a cynical asshole
@ScottW oh gawd baby, have some love <3
 
user142019
 
Xeo
Ultra Hardcoe (Minecraft)
 
@rightfold I refrain from clicking that
 
@rightfold Why do you click on that.
Why do you look at at that
Why do you breathe
 
@EtiennedeMartel because your blood needs oxygen
@Xeo if you have any tips for me and my terrible C++ adventure, you're welcome to lay them on the table.
 
user142019
@EtiennedeMartel for the lols.
 
10:14 PM
lulz
 
user142019
@TonyTheLion your other organs do too.
 
oh yea that
 
Ell
@rightfold I saw that ages ago
Fapfapfap
 
you fap to gore?
some sick shit dude
 
user142019
@TonyTheLion Al Gore is such handsome man!
 
10:14 PM
lol
 
@TonyTheLion s/software//
 
Xeo
@TonyTheLion You need a fun project. :/
 
ahahahahahahah
 
user142019
 
user142019
Didn't know dictionaries had pictures.
 
10:15 PM
fun, is not what I consider programming anymore
 
@rightfold well, that certainly is a thing. FYI people, it's just a cartoon animation
 
painful is more the right word
 
user142019
@TonyTheLion Try something new!
 
@rightfold like what?
 
user142019
Like Go!
 
user142019
10:16 PM
Or something old, like Haskell or Erlang!
 
I thought you said it sucked
 
user142019
No, I love it.
 
user142019
It's just that it sucks at strings.
 
oh, well, Unicode, 'nuff said
 
user142019
len(someString) returning the size in bytes makes no sense.
 
10:17 PM
lol
 
user142019
You first have to create a new array of code points if you want the string length; len([]rune(someString)), which is fugly.
 
oh man
that's bad
 
user142019
func StringLength(s string) int {
    return len([]rune(s));
}
 
user142019
:D
 
@rightfold shh, don't let @R.MartinhoFernandes hear you say the code points is the same as string length
 
10:19 PM
Python is bearable
but you can't do large projects in it, because that gets slow
@thecoshman lol
 
user142019
@thecoshman IT IS BETTER THAN THE NUMBER OF BYTES
 
user142019
Do you need to normalize it first or something?
 
enough unicode
 
@TonyTheLion same more or less any interpreted code, no.
 
meh
I'm gonna become a hairdresser
my manes need doing
 
user142019
10:20 PM
@TonyTheLion Premature optimization is the root of all evil.
 
Ell
I thought python had the reputation of being fast
 
user142019
Also Stackless and PyPy.
 
@rightfold that might solve the issue... normalizing is more getting around the fact the letters with accents might be two code points (one for the accent, one for the base letter) or just one code point (the letter with an accent)
see @R.MartinhoFernandes I learn stuff :D
 
@Ell Python has the reputation of slithering along
 
user142019
@Ell Ruby has the reputation of being slow as a dog. :)
 
10:21 PM
oh man, I wrote script once in Ruby
 
user142019
Nice.
 
I'm going to go back to assembler
:P
 
user142019
Try Haskell or Erlang.
 
I can't do that at work, now, can I?
I don't want to write code outside of work
 
user142019
You don't program in your spare time?
 
user142019
10:22 PM
OIC.
 
its bad enough having to deal with it at work
 
user142019
Erlang is good at massive concurrency. Maybe you can convince your boss that you need massive concurrency and web scale!
 
ahahahah
 
user142019
Or that all the cool kids these days use Haskell!
 
I can't even convince my boss he needs to educate his newcomers better
which is one of the reasons I'm failing so badly
 
user142019
10:23 PM
> Vista
 
I have no idea what the fuck anything is about
 
user142019
@TonyTheLion y u no new job that is less terrible.
 
@rightfold too lazy
I don't honestly think any other job is going to be less bad
 
user142019
Careers.
 
user142019
Employers will find you!
 
10:24 PM
its still programming, it still has the same crap
 
user142019
@TonyTheLion Win the lotto.
 
@rightfold I've been on Careers for years, I've been contacted twice
once by Facebook, and I can't remember the other
 
user142019
All software is bad because computers are designed to do everything.
 
yea this ^
 
user142019
@TonyTheLion I've been on Careers for months, I've been contacted thrice.
 
user142019
10:25 PM
@TonyTheLion You're great.
 
I had a bad day today
can you figure?
 
@TonyTheLion it sucks
 
@thecoshman true
 
user142019
I got one inquiry in fucking German.
 
Xeo
@TonyTheLion You sound badly burned out.
 
10:26 PM
@Xeo Using libcxxrt clang++ now works if I pass the -lcxxrt and -ldl flags (e.g.). However, it std::aborts when using async. (Probably related to this, because it aborts in the same location.)
 
user142019
I don't understand employers.
 
user142019
Like, if you do it in English maybe people will actually respond because they speak that language.
 
@TonyTheLion could be worse, could get effectively told "stop asking questions"
@TonyTheLion well, unless you are in the US
 
@thecoshman ah man.
 
@TonyTheLion I wish I was joking about that
 
10:27 PM
@rightfold It kinda does. It's often more useful than the other option.
 
user142019
Mehhh.
 
@Xeo meh, the point is I've been trying hard not to be, but I can only ever come to the conclusion that this was a bad career choice.
@thecoshman gawd :(
 
Xeo
@thecoshman Good luck with the job at Etienne's place man
 
did he get it?
 
user142019
SEX
 
Xeo
10:29 PM
No, but he's applying for it
 
Yay! Sex! :P
 
@StackedCrooked He didn't apply yet.
 
Oh, lol.
 
@TonyTheLion I feel the same about my place. but I can only conclude that @sbi either a happy go lucky chap who will be happy as you kick shit in his face, or he actually has a good job.
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes Well, he sent his CV to Etienne today
 
10:29 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes actually I did, thank you very much
@Xeo cheers man, there's more then a few hopes riding on that
 
Xeo
@thecoshman If the ape wasn't having fun with his job, he wouldn't be there.
His old boss gave him the option to come back if the new job doesn't work out.
 
@thecoshman I think ape got lucky and found the job he was looking for, I'm glad for him, he deserves that. :) I, however, appear not to be so lucky. Don't really care at this time.
 
I think you need to call CoInitialize(). Source: the error message freaking says "CoInitialize() has not been called"Luchian Grigore 38 secs ago
 
@Xeo my point exactly, there are jobs out there that don't suck balls
 
@LuchianGrigore lol
 
Xeo
10:31 PM
Mine doesn't suck balls!
 
@thecoshman I think they're rare
 
user142019
Just win the lottery. No more job problems.
 
Xeo
AS3 does, but I'll be done with that this week. :3
 
@Xeo so you can deal with Flash?
 
@TonyTheLion ah dude, how many developer jobs have you had? one, two?
 
10:31 PM
@thecoshman enough to know its a terrible career choice and I should find something else to do with my life. Just what? is the question.
 
Xeo
@TonyTheLion Sure can. It's not at the level were I want to throw a brick at the monitor.
 
user142019
Become a porn star.
 
@LuchianGrigore Reminds me of: stackoverflow.com/questions/12919506/…
 
user142019
A professional motherfucker.
 
@Xeo If only I could throw bricks at my monitor
@rightfold lol
 
Xeo
10:32 PM
Also, I'm having fun by thinking that AS3 is just a bad April Fool's joke that nobody caught.
2
 
hahahaha
 
Xeo
Really, joking about all the shit in AS3 helps
 
@Mysticial ahahaha I didn't know that one
 
Xeo
Laughing about it with coworkers.
 
user142019
@Mysticial :D :) :3
 
10:32 PM
@xeo how did you end up working with AS?
 
@Mysticial lol
 
@thecoshman Willingly!
 
@thecoshman because games
 
Xeo
@thecoshman Project was going kinda south on the client-side, so boss asked me to help out for a bit.
 
10:33 PM
where?
 
@TonyTheLion Behind you.
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes Hey, can't hate on a language you didn't deal with.
 
@Xeo oh right
 
10:34 PM
I should be drunk right now :/
 
@TonyTheLion Wanna trade?
 
Xeo
ahaha
 
user142019
@Mysticial Gotta love the downvoted answer.
 
user142019
class Animal {
    bool alive;
public:
    Animal() : alive(true) {}

    void kill() {
        alive = false;
    };
}
 
Xeo
10:35 PM
Also, apparently I did my job really well.
Too well, you might say.
 
user142019
Me too.
 
@rightfold shut up
 
Xeo
Our lead client-coder says he doesn't want to let me go and keep me on the client.
 
user142019
ok :(
 
@Xeo Haha, now you're a good AS3 coder. Haha, you're screwed.
 
10:35 PM
@Xeo see I wish I could say that.
 
Xeo
Nope, going back to C++ next week. Not gonna get stuck on AS3.
 
It's like telling a friend you can fix their computer.
 
I haven't actually written something that worked the first time
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes heh
 
They'll keep coming back until you move to another city.
And when you do, they'll call you.
 
10:36 PM
@Xeo lol, just sit on the code till the last minute saying it has critical bugs in it :P
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes For a real friend, I don't really care.
 
And expect you to fix it through the phone.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes :O who would do such a thing
@TonyTheLion ah now, would you stop
 
Xeo
@thecoshman Kinda hard to talk around that when they ask you what your job is. Well, technically, you could just lie and say you work on a farm.
 
yea, fuck it
 
10:38 PM
@Xeo I make it quite clear it won't happen/
 
Xeo
Even if they pay you?
 
user142019
 
I have half a pizza left
 
@Xeo Fuck that's worse.
 
Ell
I've never written something that worked first time
 
10:39 PM
@EtiennedeMartel oh, would you happen to know much about animal control for Canada, ie bringing my derpy cat with me?
 
@thecoshman I don't know if you legally can bring animals in.
 
you could Google it, ya know?
 
You're gonna have to look at the law.
 
If it's for free, you are helping them, as a gesture of good will, and that's it. If they pay you you are their bitch.
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes Haha
 
10:40 PM
@Xeo oh god! then you are really screwed, you are committed to it them
 
They come back with more money later for more fixes.
That ruins whatever friendship was still left.
 
@EtiennedeMartel :'( poor derpy chops will have to be left behind
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I know that phenomenon
its a trap
@thecoshman bring him here, I'll care for him
I need a cat in my life
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes no, they come back with the same money for new issues
 
@TonyTheLion We all need cats.
 
Xeo
10:41 PM
@TonyTheLion s/c/C/?
 
@EtiennedeMartel ;)
 
At least for me. Fuck money.
 
@Xeo no
 
@Xeo Money turns people into monsters.
 
@TonyTheLion she might be able to make such a move... will have to see how it goes
 
10:41 PM
When I lend money to a friend, I never ever ask it back.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes me too
 
user142019
@Ell noob
 
@thecoshman coool
 
We're friends, fuck the money.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes You've then given the money, not lent it
 
user142019
10:42 PM
Geld moet rollen. Het liefst mijn kant op.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes if I had to ask for it back, I wouldn't lend it in the first place. if they just need money, that is something else, and probably just as fine
 
@TonyTheLion Only if they don't return it of their own volition.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes oh right
 
Xeo
If they don't (in any kind of form), that might tell something aswell.
 
In which case, if it's something not meaningless like a couple beers, fuck them.
 
10:43 PM
Last friday me and a friend went to grab a few pints. He sneakily paid for us both. When I asked if that meant I owed him something, he simply replied "no".
 
@thecoshman Exactly. I'm not a fucking bank.
 
@TonyTheLion to be fair though, I probably wouldn't make her go through the day of travelling when I am sure I can find a good home for her hear.
 
Xeo
@EtiennedeMartel Well, some time you'll likely be the one sneakily paying for both of you.
 
@thecoshman :'(
 
@Xeo Exactly.
 
Xeo
10:44 PM
@thecoshman And @Tony's day just got worse.
 
But, in my head, I owe him a few beers, not money.
 
@TonyTheLion dude, fuck work in the morning, get you ass to the home and get a cat
 
Xeo
First you give him hope, and then you crush it right before his eyes.
@EtiennedeMartel yea
 
@Xeo crushing hope is not as fun if you don't dangle it first :P
 
10:45 PM
Can fat people immigrate to Canada?
They can't to New Zealand.
 
Xeo
Wat?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Only if they like the Queen.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes o_0
 
Maybe I should take a day off for my bday next weekend, and have a long weekend.
 
haha thta's so fucking awesome.
 
10:45 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes They need a special visa
 
@TonyTheLion an extra wide one?
 
@Xeo You need to get through some health checks, and fat means no.
 
Xeo
Also, Candyan.
 
@rightfold lol
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes wtf
 
10:45 PM
They have some BMI threshold.
 
@thecoshman one that states their weight
 
@TonyTheLion fuck you! leaving it too late to sort something out
 
@thecoshman I'm visiting some friends
 
@Xeo They don't want to have their healthcare paying for some foreigner's fatness.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes and why exactly mr tin can do you bring this up ¬_¬
 
10:46 PM
Can't afford it.
@thecoshman I'm drunk.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes That's what I call public healthcare.
@R.MartinhoFernandes That explains the above typos.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes and I am very sensitive about my weight :'(
(not really, I'm just messing with him, very badly)
 
Anyway, I need to sleep.
 
:O if I live in Canada, I get to be one of those late night loungers... wait... do I?
 
Good night.
 
user142019
10:48 PM
Bye.
 
@thecoshman It's almost 19:00 here.
 
@thecoshman yes, Canada is behind in time
 
I'll take some of that here sleep too. Night chaps
 
user142019
No, it's not almost 19:00 here.
 
user142019
It's almost 1:00 here.
 
10:49 PM
almost midnight here
 
@rightfold Your variable lookup sucks.
It's like you don't know about scopes.
 
I was more getting at the fact that it would be late at night for GMT... but evening for Canada...
 
user142019
My scope hides yours.
 
@rightfold fix your clocks you damn hippies!
 
@rightfold Your scope is too young.
 
user142019
10:49 PM
We need more @BoltClock.
 
any way, I shall try again to say good night... might even get to another tab this time :P
peace out fuckers!
 
user142019
I want to program tomorrow.
 
user142019
I need a fun project.
 
peace
 
user142019
quiche
 
10:50 PM
I don't like quiche
 
user142019
Me neither.
 
user142019
I want cannelloni with meatloaf and molten cheese.
 
Ell
I do
How about a Tony rightfold and ell project.
 
user142019
lol
 
user142019
I think I'm gonna write a simple MMORPG in Haskell and Erlang.
 
user142019
10:54 PM
Just a very simple thing to try some networking stuff out.
 
Ell
Can you actually help me with RTS networking
I don't understand how they are kept in sync
Well I do sort of but it feels hacky
 

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