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4:00 PM
if you have x := expr; and expr, then x and expr may have different types.
whereas I'll bet that basically never happens in something like Haskell.
 
Prelude> newtype RvalueRef a = Move a
Prelude> let f x = Move x
Prelude> :t f
f :: a -> RvalueRef a
Prelude>
 
Oh boy.
> X::const_iterator constant iterator type whose value type is T
 
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I think you have something mixed up there, man
 
> X::const_reverse_iterator iterator type whose value type is const T
 
user1182183
100% secure = 0% usable. 100% usable = 0% secure.
Lol so true xD
 
4:02 PM
@DeadMG You just need to shuffle the rules around a bit? Say a := b unifies T with T&&; T with T&; T with T const&; etc.
 
And yet, the associated note suggests that it's a synonym for reverse_iterator<const_iterator>
 
@GamErix Sure, keep thinking that.
 
user1182183
@R.MartinhoFernandes well it's perfectly logical.
 
user1182183
in some context
 
Said context being your mind?
 
user1182183
4:03 PM
;>
 
Xeo
@LucDanton What
@LucDanton It should be just that.
 
user1357851
@Jueecy Did you upload that pic or something went wrong you ended up with that pic?
 
I dunno what I'm missing. reverse_iterator is quite straight, inherits value_type from the iterator it adapts.
 
Xeo
Editorial issue in the standard?
 
> static_assert( std::is_same<std::iterator_traits<std::vector<int>::const_reverse_iterator>::val‌​ue_type, int>(), "" );
No typo?
 
4:05 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Yeah, but remember, I still only have a vague concept of what HM is, at best, due to the whole "no English definitions" thing.
 
user1357851
Oh wait avatar works ... and my fat legs don't look very fat in that pic :x
 
Xeo
@LucDanton Seems like an editorial issue, then
 
@Xeo I would say so as well.
 
anyway
 
Nevermind, parse error in my head.
 
4:08 PM
first I need to re-write virtually every function in my analyzer to support later modification of what it did- and indeed, constant expressions and such
 
> In Tables 96 and 97, X denotes a container class containing objects of type T
 
Xeo
Wtf is with the stars
 
Given the requirement of value_type then that is the meaning of this associated type!
 
@Xeo Dunno.
 
Somebody's trolling.
 
4:10 PM
Owners have infinite star cancellations per day.
 
in deed
 
Xeo
Whover is starring wildly in here, GTFO.
sigh
 
Now that's quite the argument.
 
user142019
Starfag GTFO.
 
room mode changed to Gallery: anyone may enter, but only approved users can talk
 
4:11 PM
@EtiennedeMartel Wrong.
 
Xeo
I don't know if that changes starring :s
 
@DeadMG That doesn't help, I think.
 
What the hell.
 
user142019
lol
 
user142019
fail
 
4:12 PM
Gallery just for some measly stars?
 
user1182183
nominated users?
 
user1357851
Oo
 
What the hell?
 
user1182183
what's that lol
 
Xeo
It doesn't even help
 
4:12 PM
evidently
 
That's overkill.
 
user1182183
why couldn't I join the room ; o
 
user142019
Ask on meta for per-minute limit on stars.
 
room mode changed to Public: anyone may enter and talk
 
Who's the trolling us enough to go into gallery?
 
user1357851
4:13 PM
Meaning newbs can not post anymore :x
 
user142019
DeadMG
 
@Telkitty Yeah, but then someone (who wasn't me) decided to allow you to post.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Woot. Lounge<Tweet++> sending me my reply tweets before twitter!
 
@Zoidberg No, better: take away starring privileges if you get too many stars cancelled.
 
user1182183
@R.MartinhoFernandes better solution
 
4:14 PM
@sehe I'm that good.
 
Xeo
@DeadMG I thought the same
 
@DeadMG I explicitely granted telkitty "read only" access. And was gonna do the same for GamErix. Someone else borked it
 
@sehe That's meaningless.
 
@sehe I gave GamErix write, but dunno who gave Telkitty write.
 
Read access is given to anonymous users...
 
4:14 PM
I think we're never getting rid of Telkitty.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I dare you to go to MSO suggest that. Actually I don't, I'm sure it's been requested a hundred times already.
 
"Read only" is only meaningful for mods.
 
user1182183
yolu guys know me and I;m no anonymouse xD
 
user1357851
@DogPlusPlus surely they won't get rid of me if they let you in ...
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes ?
 
4:15 PM
@sehe Everyone has read access by default.
 
@LucDanton I can only name about one chat feature that was implemented in the last two years.
it's definitely been left to rot
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Well, then. I didn't make the radio button "read access" up, so complain to the UI designers :)
 
Xeo
@DeadMG Reply-quoting!
 
The third class citizen on SO.
 
o.0
 
4:16 PM
@DeadMG Name some that you think it needs.
 
@Xeo That pretty much being it.
 
Huh.
 
@sehe It's meaningful for mods: they can create rooms that mortals can't read.
 
Xeo
But nah, there has been more.
 
If this place entered gallery mode, why can I talk?
 
4:16 PM
@ThePhD it changed back
 
@ThePhD It's not gallery anymore.
 
@ThePhD Because you have explicit access.
 
4:17 PM
room mode changed to Private: only Tomalak may talk sense
@DogPlusPlus haha
 
@Xeo I had a bunch of bugs fixed, but that's not quite the same as features.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Banning users, kicking users, setting the room so that only those owners allow can read it, we requested reply-quoting about three years ago, a more accurate activity tracker.
that's just off the top of my head
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Even then, it's not meaningless: I'd have "processed" the access request by "granting" read access, so that others won't see the request anymore (apparently, it was raced anyway)
 
@DeadMG The first three features sound like things SO would deliberately refuse to implement, since they violate SO's spirit of openness.
@DeadMG Have you had serious problems here? That couldn't be solved socially rather than with a child's ban-hammer?
 
@sehe It's still the same as "no special access".
 
4:18 PM
We used to use "read access" to explicitly mark trolls.
 
@ThePhD Good. Question.
 
But somebody seems to have cleared that list since.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit How many times have we been trolled by children who won't go away until a moderator arrives?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes But it's not meaningless to "grant" nothing extra :)
 
oh yeah, and did I mention that the existing flag system is utterly broken and incredibly annoying?
 
4:19 PM
@DeadMG Not many times. And did any of those times cause you physical pain? Learn to ignore those messages with your eyes?
 
@Mysticial Precisely
 
Okay, I think I'll go with a value_type fiction for what the variant is supposed to hold and a stored_type policy as to what will actually be held. Template parameters being a front-end, so e.g. variant<recursive_variant> will have variant<recursive_variant> as its value_type, and recursive_wrapper<variant<recursive_variant>> as its stored_type.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I can also ignore them with a chat function, but that's not the point.
 
user1357851
@Mysticial low grade trolls you mean, I am in so that must mean high class trolls are allowed :D
 
You shouldn't need the internet to provide you banning tools in order to deal with users of a trivial amount of annoyance
i.e. man up :)
 
4:20 PM
it has nothing to do with that
 
because
 
what does a ban counter, then? if not annoyance levels (which I maintain a grown human being ought to be able to deal with themselves)
 
I can't ignore a user X, so that when new user Y comes in, they don't have to see user X's shit.
 
Idiots
 
4:20 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes I don't see my name there. x3
 
and you also can't ignore them so they can't flag or star things in the room.
 
I guess I would get blocked out if this place was put into gallery mode.
 
@ThePhD can't you read? you didn't speak during gallery mode
 
Ignoring is not a solution.
 
Ignoring doesn't help, because people keep replying to said idiot
 
4:21 PM
@ThePhD You would be, but there's a thing at the bottom saying "Request write access", and I expect most owners would grant it.
 
@ThePhD You are blind.
 
@CatPlusPlus This.
 
I like how Mr Cake Photo @Telkitty has explicit read access but I don't
 
And then I want to mock him, too. :(
 
And it's just shitting up the room until the idiot goes away
 
4:21 PM
Oh.
 
@CatPlusPlus IF HE GOES AWAY. :(
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Read access is meaningless.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit It's granted to people who request it when the room is locked.
nothing more or less than that.
 
3 mins ago, by Mysticial
We used to use "read access" to explicitly mark trolls.
 
4:22 PM
Everyone has read access
 
ZOIDBERG SOCKPUPPET DETECTED
 
OOOH
 
I plonked Telkitty, but it seems she's here to stay, so I unplonked her for clarity.
 
if you happen to have never been here when the room is locked, then you won't have access.
 
THERE I AM
Wow I'm fuckin' blind. :c
I had to use the search button. :c
 
4:22 PM
@ThePhD where?
 
ITT robot convinces human of their own lack of sight.
 
you fools, star his self-deprecating message.
 
user1357851
@LightnessRacesinOrbit What Mr Cake Photo?
 
What the fuck happened to the insect, anyway?
 
Don't doo iiit.
 
4:23 PM
@DeadMG it's not star-worthy.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit <3
 
@Telkitty Wasn't it you who kept posting photos of cakes?
 
user1357851
I am a lady .. or belong to that category
 
How sane would an rref(foo) returning an rvalue_reference_wrapper<T> be?
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit And cats. And Seals. And an occasional dog.
 
4:24 PM
I don't like it, even though I had use for it before.
 
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just cos
 
:frogout:
 
It looks like ti has a lazy eye.
 
Apparently I have my variant storing an U instead of U&& atm. I don't like the inconsistency with U& though.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Who's the insect? :o
 
user1357851
4:26 PM
Cicade
 
Ah.
 
@ThePhD Nolwenn/Cicada
haven't seen her in weeks
 
Maybe she got a life and a job.
 
@ThePhD pahahahahahah
dude
 
user1357851
@LightnessRacesinOrbit you should try mumble sometimes, a lot of things would make sense ... if you are smart enough
 
4:28 PM
she's French
@Telkitty what
 
@Telkitty cough.
baby has picked up her first clue :)
 
I hate graphs and programming and everything
 
Yay
 
We know that.
 
Graphs ?
 
4:28 PM
wtf is going on
 
user142019
I hate you.
 
So much inconsistency. We have value_type and element_type, and yet std::reference_wrapper<T> has type.
 
user1357851
@LightnessRacesinOrbit you are not picking up cues fast enough
 
I LOVE YOSHI'S STORY.
That is all.
 
user142019
@LucDanton write a single interface to it with SFINAE!
 
4:32 PM
@Telkitty :(
 
Hello, World!
 
+= Cruel ?
 
oh why Gallery mode?
 
Because the puppy is silly.
 
Oh right, you can use ref(foo)(...blargs...) in lieu of an actual std::invoke. Sort of.
 
4:35 PM
oh I had to refresh#
 
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> Bright graduated from Caltech in 1979 with a B.S. in BS.
You Yanks have funny names for degrees
 
user142019
I'm also going to school for a B.S. in bullshit.
 
user1357851
I am going to add my entry in wikipedia one day
 
If I ever get to run a UNiversity,
I'm going to personally hand-write silly things on every degree.
"Makes mean cupcakes."
"Very strong thighs."
"Can tap dance."
 
user1357851
I am changing my avatar - it is weird to having to stare at my own legs every time I post :x
 
4:40 PM
Make it a kitty!
You can be Cat++'s younger sibling.
With less monocle and less crazy.
 
user1357851
It will be a pretty (curious) chicken
 
user1357851
@ThePhD I am older than him
 
Oh.
Uh.
Older and wiser and less crazy?
 
user1357851
but then he could be mis-stating his age on his profile. He could be a 50 yo Russian hacker for all I know
 
His voice is too silky for that.
 
user1357851
4:42 PM
True
 
For an older broad, you sure are childish.
 
50 bucks says only like 2 months older than CatPlusPlus. :D
 
A new room meme: insulting Telkitty
@ThePhD What is it with you and people's voices?
 
Nothing.
 
@ThePhD And here I thought you were talking to a ghost in the room...forgot I plonked TelKitty for some reason...
 
4:45 PM
Lol. I don't know why everyone plonks TelKitty.
 
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She's basically harmless.
 
It's not there. :/
 
@DogPlusPlus Hah! :P
Raptophilia
 
@DogPlusPlus And why are you looking at that wikipedia article? /rae
 
4:46 PM
Looks like Raptorphilia
 
TO figure out PhD's voice loving thingy.
 
But it's actually related to some sick consensual rape fantasy nonsense.
 
so
where is Cicada
 
> consensual rape
Lol.
 
WWWWWWWWWWWWAT
 
4:47 PM
How that is possible, I'm not sure.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Don't go there. :D
 
Are you in the GOP?
 
Hey man, it's not me.
> Raptophilia Committing rape, possibly consensual rape fantasy[12] - On Wikipedia's list of paraphilias
 
@DogPlusPlus ?
 
lol at the chat flag
And the conversation in context...
 
4:49 PM
@ThePhD basically s/consensual/simulated/
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Well, she turned out to be a man. Everyone went batshit crazy over many different reasons. Tensions ran high and he/she/it left.
 
@DogPlusPlus uh huh
 
@DogPlusPlus I must've missed the batshit crazy part. o_O
 
I missed all of this
date?
 
No idea, I don't really keep track. Maybe @sehe knows.
 
4:51 PM
I knew about the Cicada is a man part but not the batshit crazy part
 
Even if Cicada was a man, that's just all kinds of Lulz.
 
@DogPlusPlus wait, the first time I knew she was a he, was on mumble that he spoke, but I don't remember anyone acting up over it?
 
Also, @Cicada being a man is why I suspect(ed) Amber/Steve Jobs of being Cicada
 
..... o_O
That's some pretty awesome correlation there.
 
4:53 PM
@TonyTheLion Well, there was a mess. I don't know anymore. Conflicts around here are weird. :D
 
I mean Amber showed up at around the time Cicada left
so... not sure if coincidence?
 
But really, does it matter? :D
 
could be, but you won't know really
 
I mean, if it was Cicada trolling... who cares?
It's just more lulz to be had.
 
4:55 PM
Either way, Cicada/Amber/Steve has some weird fantasies.
 
Like recursive ejaculation? :P
 
Ejaculationception?
 
s/ejaculation/ballandchain
 

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