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17:00
lol
@DeadMG You are right that it should be on a non-inline detail though. Kinda missed that.
@DeadMG It isn't.
who from England or Ireland ?
@ErhanDemirci @thecoshman, but he probably hates you without even knowing you.
Because he's like that.
17:01
@EtiennedeMartel Yeah...
You know who I hate right now, despite not even knowing? James Gosling.
@R.MartinhoFernandes Indeed. So much German.
@EtiennedeMartel (Title reads something like "Shamanic education in Pankow")
@EtiennedeMartel Well, since I'm technically a contractor, my contract only requires 1day notice
so back to the jobhunt
@thecoshman Hello
17:04
@R.MartinhoFernandes Hmm, religious intolerance, then?
Maybe s/education/training/. Well, you get the idea.
@R.MartinhoFernandes "Teachin yous to be a shamans!".
@R.MartinhoFernandes typically berlin
@Xeo lol
17:07
@DeadMG Define "normal". It's all too common, but your job right now may be to figure out who you need to deal with to set more realistic expectations.
@bamboon What's "offener Trommelabend"? "Open drum evenings"?
Is that like open mic nights for shamans?
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@JerryCoffin Hmm. Well, unless this guy is running a whole bunch of IRC accounts just to pretend, I think that he really does have a team.
and I know at least one other member working on a different product for the same company
I just don't know WTF is going on
@R.MartinhoFernandes You don't need to be a member in order to participate at those evenings.
Otherwise it doesn't make sense.
@R.MartinhoFernandes yeah
Open mic night, heh. You might insult someone's mother with a simple *knock knock* on a drum :D.
17:12
@DeadMG I'm not sure that changes much. He may be just testing you, or they may just have a repo, but mostly ignore it (and probably the rest of normal development procedures). True, you can't do much until/unless you figure out what's going on. I wouldn't give up immediately just because that's not instantly obvious though.
Well, "Trommelreisen" sounds even weirder...
@JerryCoffin Well I don't have another job, so I'm not giving up yet :P
auf Englisch?
The drum is the favourite instrument of the spirit (soul?). That's why we all have a heartbeat.
17:14
"The drum is the favourite instrument of the Great Spirit. That's why we all have a heartbeat"
nothing to do with the need to pump blood around our bodies, huh
@EtiennedeMartel wtf?
@DeadMG But it pumps it out if you cut yourself! It's evil!
@DeadMG Of course not! If the great Spirit's favourite instrument was an accordion we would be worms.
@R.MartinhoFernandes The evil is in our needing blood in the first place (though I suppose that may be hard for you to understand).
17:18
> Even if two unicode strings are normalized and look the same to a human reader, if one has combining characters and the other doesn’t, they may not compare equal.
Hmm, sounds wrong somehow.
@R.MartinhoFernandes depends how you define two strings being equal. code point wise, that description is apt, no? in terms of what you would display, they would be equal
@R.MartinhoFernandes Could be correct if they're normalized differently (e.g., one canonical, the other compatibility), though the obvious assumption would be both normalized the same way.
@thecoshman The whole point of normalisation is that you can compare strings bitwise once they are normalised.
@R.MartinhoFernandes ...but only if you used the same normalization for both.
@R.MartinhoFernandes (I may not know what normalised means in this context, but I shall take it to mean to a 'standard human readable' form)
17:21
I guess it can only refer to crap like fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/3a9/index.htm and fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/2126/index.htm being visually indistinguishable with some fonts.
@JerryCoffin ... yeah... I'm not up for reading that
@thecoshman No, normalised is about what form the data has. Basically, it means that if you normalised (A + combining grave accent) and (À), you get the same bits for the two.
@R.MartinhoFernandes that is what I took it to mean, I just don't know your fancy words :P
Ell
Ell
What is the difference between omega and ohms sign?
17:23
@Ell IIRC they are the same <glyph> but the context gives them differing meanings
@thecoshman Yeah, but both have the same visual representation, so I thought your use of "human readable form" implied some misunderstanding.
user142019
Capital omega, to be exact.
@Ell Encoding capital omega and ohm sign separately is sometimes considered a mistake.
@R.MartinhoFernandes Look the same to a human reader? Probably some joke about Cyrillic/Latin alphabets.
@DeadMG But how do combining characters factor into that :S
17:25
@ScottW Sort of, but they have separate code points anyway. This is largely because they have different characteristics (e.g., a ohm sign should never be converted to lower case, but a capital omega can be).
@R.MartinhoFernandes The author probably just got confused.
Ell
Ell
Yeah, it seems to me ohms sign isnt even a thing
@Ell Nah. An ohm is not an omega.
@R.MartinhoFernandes One more time: makes sense if you're talking about different normalization forms. Otherwise, I'm pretty sure it's just wrong.
Ell
Ell
I know
17:26
@thecoshman Just to be clear: all conforming processes are required to treat those two exactly the same way, so a conforming renderer cannot render them differently, regardless of whether the data has a "naked A" + a combining accent or a single "A with accent" character.
@JerryCoffin Yeah :/
Ell
Ell
but you don't call it an ohm sign
you call it an omega
@Ell The current recommendation is to not use "OHM SIGN", and use the capital omega everywhere.
Mostly because there is no "METER SIGN", no "LITER SIGN", etc.
@Ell Yes, but in a paper on electrical engineering, upper- and lower-case omega will often signify entirely different things, so converting one to the other could lead to serious problems/misunderstandings.
17:30
You don't want to encode a separate character for all those meanings because they all are the same character.
@TonyTheLion lol
@R.MartinhoFernandes glCheck is something really bad
I think there are only two units with their symbols encoded in the UCS: Ohm and Angstrom. Neither of those is recommended and are included only for compatibility.
@JerryCoffin If I consider the common misconception that NFC does not have combining characters, it kinda makes sense with your interpretation, in context. I guess that's it.
@R.MartinhoFernandes Can you link to the origin of the quote? I'm curious to read it.
Ell
Ell
@JerryCoffin So just use the symbol you want?I'm priobably being really stupid or ignorant but I don't see the issue. If you want ohms use a capital omega?
17:39
@R.MartinhoFernandes I'd lean more toward somebody who didn't quite know what they were talking about (or, perhaps, as you mentioned earlier, different characters that happen to (usually) look the same.
I want puns
Xeo
Xeo
@TonyTheLion See, Japan is awesome.
@Xeo It is awesome. Have you been there?
Xeo
Xeo
Unfortunately not yet. :(
But @Stacked has
yes
It's on my travel list
17:42
Right. Being there as a tourist really lets you know it is awesome.
@Ell Yes, that's what's generally advised. The point in favor of using a separate symbol would be if (for example) somebody converts a block of text to lower case, an ohm symbol would remain unchanged.
The ohm symbol only exists to roundtrip with some probably-no-longer-in-use encoding (I don't recall which one).
I know the roman numerals come from some old Chinese encoding (gb2312), and it is likely the Ohm symbol comes from one of those too.
Ell
Ell
@JerryCoffin Ahh right I didn't think about that
@R.MartinhoFernandes Old I'd believe -- but completely out of use seems less likely.
17:44
fail
XCode, stop trying to suck my dick all the time. I prefer to write code.
@JerryCoffin Except OHM SIGN lowercases to lowercase omega :/
XCode sucks dick? What rock have I been living under? :P
@TonyTheLion It is constantly trying ingratiate itself to me with all its fancy rapid-app-pooping drag 'n' drop functionality. Finally left me alone when I started .mm-ing. :D
@TonyTheLion When my mom retired (from teaching) the other teachers at the school got her a little momento -- with part of the inscription misspelled.
17:46
hehe
@JerryCoffin oh :(
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@Xeo ^ :3
@R.MartinhoFernandes Oops! Should clearly lower-case to itself.
Xeo
Xeo
@BartekBanachewicz Exactly as keikaku.
@Xeo he is epic.
@JerryCoffin If the intention of having it as a separate character was what you said, I'd agree. But it is truly only intended for roundtripping perfectly, so it behaves pretty much as a capital omega in all but a few circumstances.
17:49
I have to say I think "Das Lounge" was better -- at least right now, I have just enough tabs open that all that shows is "Die Lounge", which English speakers might take the wrong way.
I don't think this tree will bear much more.
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@R.MartinhoFernandes Fair enough, I guess.
@JerryCoffin Mine has 'Die L...' - open more tabs.
@CatPlusPlus Uh, I'm pretty sure I'm using \r\n since I'm on Windows.
Albeit, I've never really cared, because any good editor will just. .... integrate nicely?
@JerryCoffin The thing is, for the problem you described, you are going to need tailored algorithms for casing anyway (good luck uppercasing "10 m", or even lowercasing "10 GΩ" correctly without tailoring), so there isn't much to gain from having that one behave "correctly".
17:51
Also FUCK YEEEEAH IT WORKS <3
IT never works
The alternative would imply encoding the same "character" once for (almost) every possible meaning in (almost) every possible context, which is just silly and impractical.
Reminds me of an old joke: American tourists in Germany see a guy peeing between a couple of buildings. Teen age girl says: "Ewww...Gross!". Man finishes peeing and says "Danke!"
17:52
@R.MartinhoFernandes True.
@JerryCoffin lol, ("Danke"?)
@StackedCrooked it was a pun
Yeah, I get it :)
It was well-disguised.
17:53
@R.MartinhoFernandes Yes, that's what I said! :-)
Woot, I am correcting someone else's German.
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@R.MartinhoFernandes ...or at least typing.
I found the elusive OP
@TonyTheLion In North Carolina...that explains a lot!
17:56
@TonyTheLion Original Parking?
@MartinJames Original Poster
the faggot
Oh. I was accused of Original Parking last year. It cost me £30 and three points.
@JerryCoffin Would you mind explaining the joke to us non-American-state-stereotype-minded folks ;)?
hopefully
17:57
@R.MartinhoFernandes Yes, I would mind.
Let's put it this way: I once asked my sister (who lives in North Carolina) whether people there are all stupid, or just the accent makes them sound that way. She acknowledged the joke, but the pointed out that they have some of the poorest schools in the country.
@MartinJames Original Parking? What's that?
@Everyone If you build your application with the MSVC++ CTP, do you need a different version of the MSVCP/R[VersionNumber].dll s?

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