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21:00
@Mysticial I wanna get lunch, but it's night already. Timezone problems...
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@DeadMG is it cross platform? try a different debugger?
it is, but the whole point of building it on Windows was to get away from trying to debug it on Linux.
Lol.
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oh :P howcome?
Linux debugging. :3c
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21:02
you don't like gdb?
not really
@LuigiSaggese Is this a riddle?
I'm gonna go with... "advanced Posgres user"?
@Etienne
WHAT IS POSTGRES GURU?
Do I win?
lol
3 messages moved to bin
21:06
Damn it, now my joke lacks context.
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@DeadMG but it didn't crash at least?
nor does VS
the debugger not crashing isn't the problem, the debugger not properly attaching is
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Oh
maybe gdb will attach properly :3
@EtiennedeMartel could you respond me?
21:09
Escuchaaa meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
I mean, there's a massive load of PDBs right there for all the symbols and everyshit.
(Phonetic spelling because I forgot my 1st grade Spanish)
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Escucha
user142019
I’m back.
user142019
21:13
@LuigiSaggese wtf.
@LuigiSaggese What.
user142019
Why do noobs always come in and ping random people.
Time for sleeps. Be nice, boys and Cicada.
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@DomagojPandža Nighty night
user142019
Goodbye friend.
21:14
@Zoidberg He invited me to a room. I guess it's because I was the first one to reply when he came in.
@DomagojPandža Byebye for now.
user142019
I just had some döner kebab.
ah well
user142019
With fries and molten cheese.
looks like I'll have to head back to ubuntu.
21:15
@LuigiSaggese In any case, if you haven't realized by now. It doesn't seem like anyone is interested in your question. That's why you're getting ignored/trolled.
user142019
fuck
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Sorry guys
@LuigiSaggese No worries. Just a polite indicator.
user142019
We're missing a Mario.
user142019
Oh well, I think @Krazer is a good enough substitute.
21:20
hello
user142019
ohio
Hiiiii Rapptz
Lounge<Oh-Yes>?
21:21
I just got pinged and I don't see a message
Xeo
Xeo
lol, image macro talk, and @R.MartinhoFernandes has gone off to sleep. :>
Event
What is this event?
it was a notification
Xeo
Xeo
@TonyTheLion Event notification
21:21
@TonyTheLion Event starting...
Lounge<Oh YES++> wut?
oh event
> An event is starting in 9 minutes in Lounge<OH YES++> - "We need to talk about image macros"
Xeo
Xeo
And @Cat isn't here yet.
ok, so image macros:
Xeo
Xeo
21:21
Bwahaha
The original two that started the event.
@TonyTheLion Remember: about image macros, not with image macros.
Image macros: do you want them to be posted inline in the Lounge, if yes, star this?
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I would star it, but I can't :(
What are image macros anyway?
user142019
@TonyTheLion You can pin and unpin. That stars your own message.
21:22
@TonyTheLion Pin it.
Xeo
Xeo
@Mysticial Demotivators, lolcat, and shit that Zoidberg posts.
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Q: Make chat oneboxing smaller and less obnoxious - click to enlarge instead

PubbyFrom what I've seen, the majority of oneboxes are for inane things such as image macros, question dumping, and twitter quotes. Now, don't get me wrong, I enjoy this stuff quite often, but not when it's taking up a quarter or more of my screen! Of course, oneboxing is also done for more useful th...

I posted this long ago
@Rapptz tis done
@Pubby poop txt
I'm in favor of image macros. They're entertaining.
21:23
I don't like change so I'm voting yes too.
Wtf is this useless ping
Xeo
Xeo
I'm in favor of not seeing chains of images that scroll away any and all text. :)
user142019
@Xeo haha I like the last definition. :)
@Mysticial INORITE
Xeo
Xeo
I personally don't have a problem with image macros, but it's annoying the heck out of me when they take over.
21:24
@Xeo So plonk.
@Xeo Bin them when it's excessive.
We kinda already do that.
or bin
Xeo
Xeo
@Rapptz Erm, right, because I don't want to talk to, say, @Tony or @Zoidberg evar again.
maybe only post links
Xeo
Xeo
@Mysticial Yeah, that's what I do.
21:24
@Xeo temporary.
user142019
Autobin. :P
I come to this room to entertain and to be entertained. I didn't come here for that C++ bullshit or whateva you call it. :P
user142019
@Rapptz what's the point of that?
totally this what @Mysticial said
@Zoidberg when you annoying fucks get too annoying.
Xeo
Xeo
21:25
define "temporary".
@Rapptz hey hey hey! Take it easy :)
@TonyTheLion :D I mean it in jest.
Xeo
Xeo
But plonking reminds me - where's that annoying lolcat ...
@Xeo I usually plonk for like, 5-10 minutes then unplonk when I'm annoyed at someone.
21:26
oh wow
Being contrarian, instead of an image macro, how about a macro image?
when someone ends up on my plonk list, it's for the long haul
@JerryCoffin oh you!
I have those too.
Xeo
Xeo
Hm, the lolcat's not here. No plonking for now. :|
My ignore list is pretty tiny.
21:27
Is that a button?
When I post lots of images, I'll post one or two inline and then I'll go to posting a link only
that seems to be less annoying
user142019
So we go a few days without a Pope and we already cured AIDS?
user142019
Haha awesome.
Ell
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ahh fuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
the inside of my ear is so itchy
21:29
@Zoidberg >_>
AIDS isn't HIV.
Huge pet peeve of mine.
user142019
@Ell scratch it.
user142019
@Rapptz Pedant. It's about the idea.
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@Zoidberg I did
user142019
Stop not having fun.
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meh it's bleeding
@Rapptz why can't you cure aids?
user142019
21:30
@Ell Go swim with sharks! I heard they like blood.
It's not that I don't like "having fun" it's just misconception and ignorance
and I don't like it because it seems common.
@Ell Curing AIDS is way different than HIV.
The former is impossible as of now
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Maybe I don't get the tweet
user142019
HIV has been cured before.
Ell
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Really?
user142019
21:32
Yes.
The tweet is referring to the new HIV cure that got media attention
user142019
At least one man has been cured from it before.
@TonyTheLion I eat rapefruit for breakfast along with rapenuts
lol
who starred "fuck"?
@ThePhD you should try Qt Creator btw
21:34
@TonyTheLion Several people. Including MEEEEE.
@EtiennedeMartel but why?
we're not on pornhub
user142019
You are.
Who are you and what have you done with Tony?
Xeo
Xeo
@TonyTheLion Wait, what are you doing here, then?
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Hmm that was weird
21:35
Ah pornhub. Memories.
@Xeo chatting about porn
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I just got told to review an edit, then after it said you must have 2k
When will we go back to Lounge<C++>
@Rapptz We could go back right now.
21:36
my reputation in this room sucks :(
room topic changed to Lounge<C++>: Home of the MacArthur conspiracy [c++] [c++11] [c++-faq] [no-helpdesk]
user142019
@TonyTheLion You haven't seen my reputation in this room.
There we go.
whee
@Zoidberg you're just the rooms teenager
21:37
aha
I wonder if everyone else saw that
@TonyTheLion of course you would say that.
that's what you want, isn't it?
There's also "My sick duck" in there
Xeo
Xeo
room topic changed to Lounge<C++>: hornpub [c++] [c++11] [c++-faq] [no-helpdesk]
user142019
Is Bleach fun?
21:38
what?
the anime?
user142019
Uh Bleech lol.
@Rapptz there's not enough cs and ks in there for either of that
user142019
21:39
However you spell it.
user142019
The anime.
Xeo
Xeo
Bleach sucks. And so does Naruto. And now stop talking about it.
Bleach is... interesting.
@melak47 or for "suck my dick" but your mind can still see the phrase and rearrange it to do so.
It's badly written, but it has its moments.
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21:40
Darn I forgot how salting works again
It's cheesy as fuck.
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I forgot what the answer to "if it happens clientside you can see the salt"
Bleach stopped being cool a bit after the whole Aizen is evil thing
@Ell what?
imo anyway
21:42
@Xeo So harsh. Bleach was good up around until a certain guy with glasses' departure. Naruto is also pretty decent if we exclude the fillers.
@Borgleader yep, that's Aizen.
@Ell The answer is: it doesn't matter. Salt can do its job even if the attacker can see it (in fact, it's normally assumed it'll be visible to any attacker).
Trouble by Coldplay - Awesome song :)
@Rapptz I was trying to avoid spoilers in case @Zoidberg decided to watch it.
=.=;
well he shouldn't
Xeo
Xeo
21:43
@Borgleader That's called repression.
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@JerryCoffin I'm sorry to pester you like this, and make you repeat it again - but a salt is for stopping rainbow table attacks isn't it?
also Naruto isn't that bad
@Borgleader Or the multiple deus ex machinas.
The what now?
Plot no Jutsu!
21:44
where an unsolvable plot case gets solved for no good reason/randomly
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Bodacious Space Pirates!
A deus ex machina ( or ; Latin: "god from the machine" ; plural: dei ex machina) is a plot device whereby a seemingly unsolvable problem is suddenly and abruptly resolved, with the contrived and unexpected intervention of some new event, character, ability, or object. Depending on how it's done, it can be intended to move the story forward when the writer has "painted himself into a corner" and sees no other way out, to surprise the audience, or to bring a happy ending into the tale. Linguistic considerations The Latin phrase deus ex machina comes to English usage from Horace's Ars Poet...
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Oh wait the salt is added after the hash. But then the attacker can get the result, remove the salt and then they have the original hash?
@Ell Only if they know the salt.
@Ell Primarily to protect against dictionary attacks (which are related, but not exactly the same). The basic idea is that instead of hashing a dictionary once and being able to attack all users, you need to hash separately for each possible salt value.
@Ell Salt is added before the hash.
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21:47
Okay
and each user has their own salt?
I'm reading up on it now
@Ell Usually salt is generated semi-randomly, so uniqueness isn't guaranteed, but you usually make it large enough that it's (at least mostly) expected.
@R.MartinhoFernandes did you ever finish up your "Ranges Gripes" list?
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Ahhh I think I understand
because precomputed hashs don't account for the salt?
indeed
Ell
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Ahh of course
21:53
"Try a tasty cookie; warmed in Owen".
nom nom?
@Ell Well, they can -- but to do so, they have to re-compute the hash for each possible salt value. With, say, 16 bits of salt that means re-computing the hash of each word in the dictionary 65536 times, and storing 65536 times as much data for the dictionary attack. If it started as, say, 6 hours and 2 gigs of data...well, you do the math.
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Right, I think I get it - it's just adding a load of data it needs to consider that the user doesn't have to remember for their password?
@Ell Yes, pretty much.
yes
the weak link in digital security isn't the codes at all, it's the users.
we are basically already in the era where any password you can remember is almost certainly crackable without too much effort
@DeadMG ...and the programmers, administrators, etc. But yes, the people are usually the weak link.
21:57
@JerryCoffin Yes, I meant the people, in general. My mistake.
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@DeadMG what about if you use bcrypt with a high iteration or whatever it's called?
@DeadMG Yeah, I pretty figured that, but when somebody's asking about it, I figure it doesn't hurt to be really clear.

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