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11:00
Why just sue people? So much more potential
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SUE ALL THE ENTITIES.
suing namespace std;
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abusing namespace std;
@Zoidberg unless you lose the lawsuit
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I already have four pages out of twelve for my document for school that needs to be done tomorrow at five.
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11:04
@TonyTheLion escape.
GTK continues to be disappointing on Windows :< Time to build Qt
They reorganised stuff
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No GUI and problem solved.
The problem is no GUI
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Use TkInter. xD
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11:05
> This wiki is currently running in test mode after an attack on January 5 2013.
user142019
Lol silly people attacking Python wiki.
What joy does that give?
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Reminds me of Guido's talk about trolls.
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If you attack a site, at least attack a bad one, such as Stack Overflow.
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Python wiki is great.
11:08
I think I've been there once
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Where? Guido's talk?
Python wiki
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Oh. :P
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Of course; going to Guido's talk would require going outside.
@Mysticial I like how he used "YOLO".
11:10
The only talk I was close to going to was Stroustrup talk in my city some time ago
But my friend couldn't make it so I didn't go
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lol
You should have gone.
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s/have/have been/
@Griwes Nobody else likes it.
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11:13
Cat doesn't like to go to a talk by the creator of a bad language.
I don't really like talks in general
@Non-StopTimeTravel I mean, he quite surely lived just once on the site.
Too long, too boring
I prefer reading about things
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We have talks at school sometimes.
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I just get my laptop instead and talk to you people.
11:14
I haven't been on a lecture I wouldn't fall asleep on in about 3 years
Duh. It'd be completely unhealthy if you didn't fall asleep on a lecture in 3 years
Those teachers have stamina, though
> -force-debug-info .. Create symbol files for release builds.
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Lectures are fucking boring.
Thank you Qt
@CatPlusPlus Huh. In gcc, that'd be as simple as doing -g -O2... right?
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11:16
-g is great.
Preferably it would also split the symbols from DLLs but yeah
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Latest date to hand in the document: 29 January 2013.
Date noted on the document and after every web reference: 28 January 2013.
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My teacher will love this.
@Rapptz i concur, but you gotta realize that your reasoning there was seriously flawed
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Also this document is terribly pointless. It has got nothing to do with CS.
11:20
@Rapptz impalement by a unicorn should do :|
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But of course my school is run by idiots.
@Zoidberg How many more days? Why are you bothering now that you seem to have decided to drop out?
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Q: Changing C++ output without changing the main() function

Binu#include<iostream.h> void main() { cout<<"Love"; } The question is how can we change the output of this program into "I Love You" without making any change in main().

Hey, I can protect things!
Didn't know that.
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@sehe Hmm, good point.
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I haven't yet told my parentz. xd
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11:23
My mom won't give a fuck so that's no problem.
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But dad will kill me. :P
Xeo
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It's always the dads.
@Zoidberg Hmm are you sure? Your mom gives me fucks all the time :D
My dad is always like "You fuck up, you deal with the consequences."
@R.MartinhoFernandes The problem is, some dads generously contribute to the set of 'the consequences'
@Zoidberg Shouldn't you have discussed it with them first?
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I should cite only Wikipedia to express how many fucks I gave when writing this document.
@sehe lol, not mine.
@Non-StopTimeTravel I can't remember me discussing things up front with my dad oh wait. Well, not even with my mom, for that matter
11:26
It just seems like, at the age of 18, asking for advice from those wiser and older than you may be appropriate. And, like, didn't they pay for it?
This includes the time when I switched majors and the time I took a break (that happens to last ~17 years now)
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They pay school.
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But you know
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they'll start to whine about that and when I tell them I'll pay it back they just won't hear that.
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I have very weird parents.
11:27
Then you have unilaterally decided that the money they have spent will go to waste because you are not finishing, unless the school refunds it, or you can pay them back?
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If I work for one month I can pay it back no problem.
Doesn't sound weird at all. I'd be angry that you didn't even bother to consult me. I'd let you decide, but it's just basic respect to at least fucking mention it.
@Zoidberg You mean, the college? Mmm. My mom never had to pay anything (no money). So, that made it easier for me to decide on my own: I was completely independent (well, dependent on the state for monthly loans)
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It's 1700 EUR per school year.
I only pay for repeated courses
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That's about 200 EUR per month I think.
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I don't really know. xd
@Non-StopTimeTravel Well, to be fair, he's likely the most equipped person to judge that, really. I can vouch for daknok's apparent sanity. He's far ahead of many professionals technically. I'd say he is a good judge of whether this school will serve him well.
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And I get about 100 EUR from the government each month.
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11:29
Because I'm a student.
On the broader subject of going through (a) college... hard to predict the future
@Non-StopTimeTravel Why do you get money from the government?
Why do you get money from the government for being a student, when you can pay back a year's tuition in just one month's work no problem?
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Students get something like 90 EUR per month.
11:29
@sehe Pahahahahahahaha!
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And public transport is completely free outside of weekends.
I give my government quite a bit.
They do alright out of me
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Me too
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and I get it back at the end of the month. xD
More than you pay for your annual tuition
11:30
I think the deciding factor is: would you just "lazy-out" or decide to do the hard work yourself? Arguably the latter is worth more, if you can accept that that means you'll be out of 'paper recognition' (/cc @Zoidberg)
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I don't need much money at the moment, since I live with my parents.
@Zoidberg ! Dutchland is fuckedup
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lol
@Zoidberg You live with them too! OMG!
@Non-StopTimeTravel You get money too. It's like that in all countries. You pay taxes, you get lots in return. Then there is 'social' and 'insurance' - so yeah, you may be a net contributor. I wasn't talking about that. Somehow, that struck a nerve
11:31
Then if I were them I would definitely slap you upside the head for not consulting them
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Fuuuck this paper.
@sehe You'll have to come over one evening and go through my accounts with me and point out the part where my government pays me money
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How can I fill one and a half page on how DNA databases are useful when it comes to criminology? xD
@sehe Because obviously I don't understand my own statements
@Non-StopTimeTravel ... nah. I'll pass. You know what I mean anyway.
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11:32
Hmm I could give examples of cases.
@Zoidberg Pictures!
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@R.MartinhoFernandes Good point.
@sehe Bah, fine. Lazy way out. Yes I do.
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The only useful thing I learn with this paper is LaTeX.
and I was looking forward to that
11:33
@Non-StopTimeTravel Sorry. No time. Also, no priority.
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It's the only useful thing I have learned so-far when it comes to school.
In my experience, you find out when things are useful later in life. You're only 18.
Might be worth chilling out a bit with the knowing-it-all ;)
Disclaimer: I've heard your stories about C++ class before and I'd probably drop it too
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> biologische monsters \cite{wiki-national-dna-db}---zoals bloed, sperma of huidcellen---op een
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A cite followed by an em dash looks fugly.
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FUCK YOU LaTeX.
11:36
oh man I'm getting sick of webcomics shoving gay agendas on me. except the lesbian ones.
@Zoidberg That's because you forgot to press your spacebar.
user142019
I dislike spaces around em dashes.
Also, you're not namespacing your references?
@Zoidberg Then you complain that that choice looks fugly. OK!
Want fugly? Look at the source of a Wikipedia paragraph heavily laden with references. Yuck.
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xD
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Or I could use parentheses or commas instead of em dashes.
@Non-StopTimeTravel That's what you put your machine through everytime you open one of those pages. And then when the revolution comes you will wonder why... Humans. shakes head
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11:39
Wikitext is wonderful.
@R.MartinhoFernandes not the HTML. the Wikipedialanguage markup
@R.MartinhoFernandes so it's only the Wikipedia servers in pain
@R.MartinhoFernandes they're big and slow so I'm not too worried about them, in the coming war.
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HTML is also terrible.
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It's as unparsable as wikitext.
You're a bizarre person with bizarre opinions about things, @Zoidberg.
<3 though, so I don't get kicked out
@Zoidberg Not really
11:40
@Non-StopTimeTravel He's Zoidberg, what do you expect?
user142019
HTML is bad and W3C should feel bad.
@Non-StopTimeTravel He's insane
He's a teenager
No further analysis required!
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I'm insane as hell.
(No offence, kiddo!)
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11:41
I'm never offended.
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If you're offended you're a noob.
Xeo
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@Non-StopTimeTravel How long have you been here? You should know that we're not going to be offended in here.
@Xeo How long have you been here? You should know that when I'm being nice I'm being sarcastic.
Xeo
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11:43
@Non-StopTimeTravel You were nice at any point in time?
@Xeo "No offence" is about as far as I go, sweetie
It's all relative, really
For example, did you see the news this morning about the theory of quantum effects in the mechanism of human smell? Relatively speaking, it's batshit insane.
That.
You killed it
with fire
lol
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lol
12:03
What do you guys think of this as docs for my lib? persephone.rmartinho.com:8000/doc/ogonek/encoding_form.html
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I like the examples. Examples are great.
I like cause they're short
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@R.MartinhoFernandes > and returns the sequence of code units corresponding to the given sequence of code units
@R.MartinhoFernandes doc/wheels/meta - SFINAE - "EnableIf<T...> causes a substitution failure is any of T::value is false" - the same typo in DisableIf description.
12:07
@R.MartinhoFernandes: Only one quibble, which is that I'd like to see types/kinds alongside the name. Just something showing whether a thing is a data, function or type member might be enough.
I have to scan through the prose in order to figure that out, atm, whereas I might want to concentrate on just functions, or just data members, or just types
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> std::is_empty<ogonek::utf8::state>()
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Does that work? o.o
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Shouldn't it be ::value?
Guys, I don't care about the typos right now; only the style (and not the aesthetics).
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I like it.
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12:09
It's short and to the point.
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@Zoidberg std::integral_constant<T, V> got a constexpr conversion to T, IIRC.
@Zoidberg integral_constant<T, X> has an implicit constexpr conversion to T that returns X.
user142019
That's damn awesome.
@Non-StopTimeTravel Hmm, agree. I'll note that and see what I can do tonight.
@Griwes Also, you were not supposed to go there!
If two underscores are not allowed then I guess three, four, or more are also not allowed.
12:11
@R.MartinhoFernandes :D
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@StackedCrooked Exactly.
@Zoidberg I think some examples need more comments to explain what is going on. The ones with static_asserts are already effectively executable comments, but some of the others can be a bit more opaque.
Wooooo a mod re-opened my question. Awesome!
Excellent article, apart from the bit referring to "the Firefox Internet Browser"
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Better than the Firefox Internet Explorer.
12:16
I did read it as that at first
You're right โ€” this is better (marginally).
The Firefox Netscape Chrome Internet Explorer Navigator Safari
let's go on an internet safari
that's terribad
12:17
I miss NN
@Non-StopTimeTravel oh that's a nice term
@CatPlusPlus NN?
Netscape Navigator
The Chrome Internet Netscape Explorer Safari Navigator Firefox
FTFY
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I miss Firefox 2.
Xeo
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12:18
I bet there's a firefox theme like that.
user142019
I saw firefoxes while I was on safari.
When Firefox ultimately switches to WebKit we'll call it that
I've seen every episode of Stargate too many times to be able to pick between them. Please pick an episode for me to watch, from any of the three series.
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The very first one.
You should get out more
12:19
Yeah, definitely.
@CatPlusPlus I prefer to eat large meals inside.
From a plate. At a table.
It will be ready in five minutes, and I am in my pyjamas.
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Fuck fuck fuck only 27 hours and 40 minutes left.
Yeah, I'm staying in.
TIL: there is a third SG series.
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Until I must hand in this pointless document on DNA databases.
12:20
suppose I could do an SGU rewatch
it's depressing as fuck though. the fact that it ended too soon, that is.
fuck it, doing it. I'm on holiday and have the time. BYEEE!
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Goodbye friend.
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> It's not that I'm lazy. It's just that I don't care.
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My favourite Office Space quote.
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It almost perfectly fits me.
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12:23
If you remove the "not" it perfectly fits me.
has anyone played with this one?

http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/aix/library/au-learningfc/index.html
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> C++ is usually synonymous with object-oriented programming (OOP).
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wut
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That's like saying a plane is synonymous with air.
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12:33
Ohh found a good resource for my paper.
waste basket?
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Wait.
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> with the exception of identical twins who share almost identical DNA.
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Almost identical? I was taught it was identical.
anyone know an SSL sniffer for Windows? I don't want to write it by myself if there is any
12:35
Hmm, I realised that my design is flawed for stateful encodings.
@Zoidberg Could be random mutations? Or maybe they're just wrong... I bet Konrad Rudolph would know :)
@Abyx wireshark?
> We build software that matters. We are fixing a $25 Billion industry by building outstanding software that affects millions of people
ahahahahahahahahaha
best joke ever
Isn't DNA always unique or something
@jalf hm... maybe it has some plugins
@CatPlusPlus Only DNAUIDs.
12:36
@Abyx what do you need, more specifically? Out of the box, it can decode and decrypt ssl traffic just fine
has anyone had to convert a game word coordinate system into longitude and latitude?
rats
Why make is bad:
user image
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12:38
kthxbye
@CatPlusPlus oh gawd
never really understood make
@Chad isn't it fairly straightforward? Presumably, the game world is a sphere centered around some point in your coordinate system. So translating a point on the surface of that sphere seems like it's just a bunch of trigonometry
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lol
Trigonometry my nemesis
bunch<trigonometry> solution;
12:39
oh the Cat has a nemesis?
He has nemitis, an inflamation of the nemeses.
we should have std::bunch<T>
@jalf yes and no. Mostly the game world assumes 1 = 1 meter, and thus altitude is from what it defines as sea level. Though im just seeing if anyone has done it before to get a bit of knowledge.
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template<class... Ts>
using bunch = std::vector<Ts...>;
12:40
hahaha
@jalf I could assume that 0, is the earth radius and use the x,y from that point through would run into distortion
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template<class... Ts>
using flock = std::vector<Ts...>;
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For staying linguistically correct.
That doesn't work
For more than one type at least
Bunches are sets of ๐ŸŒ๐ŸŒ, right?
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12:42
I have contradicting sources for my paper.
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Fuck this shit.
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> Whose DNA profile should be stored on a forensic DNA database?
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Great. Exactly my subtopic.
I need to patch my font to include symbols
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> In fact, the Portuguese government has recently announced plans to establish the Worldโ€™s first comprehensive database, which will contain DNA profiles from every member of the population.
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12:47
Robot, did those plans succeed?
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Seems pretty intimidating to me.
Or maybe I don't
@Zoidberg I don't think that was every put in place. Where did you read that?
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This document seems terrible. It's full of lies.
12:52
complexity course guis please kill me
also hi ;;
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@Zoidberg AFAIK, the previous government quit before they put that in place, and the new one just did not give a fuck about it.
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12:52
@R.MartinhoFernandes Ah okay. :P Thanks.
@Zoidberg Does that thing have a date?
@NolwennLeGuen Hi.
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It doesn't mention any dates. I can't find any.
Sigh, what a failure.
Also i finally have my 100% explo in gw2
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NEXT document.
12:55
The teacher is currently doing an explanation on the worst max function ive ever seen
Ohwell
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min and max are a bitch.
@jalf yep, but it appears it requires rsa keys for it. but I don't have keys, so I need some kind of proxy
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// Epic fucking fail.
template<class T, class U>
auto constexpr max(T a, U b) -> decltype(a > b ? a : b) {
    return a > b ? a : b;
}
@Zoidberg Ok, it seems it was decided to include only individuals with a criminal record.
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Ah I see. Seems logical.
12:58
@Zoidberg Why?
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I wrote it and it uses templates, so I assume it's an epic fucking fail.
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xD
Ahaha it works
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Oh. xD
@font-face {
	font-family: 'symbola_fallback';
  	src: local('Symbola');
  	unicode-range: U+250-2AF, U+370-52F, U+1D00-1F77F
}
div.message, textarea#input, div.message code, div.message pre { font-family: "Deja Vu Sans Mono", 'symbola_fallback', monospace !important; }

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