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6:00 PM
Should we close C++ questions on destructors as not constructive?
 
Ell
@CatPlusPlus yeah... let's just accept that I'm not well traveled and move on :P
 
It's a terrible question a horrible human being would ask.
Not really related to being well traveled.
 
@Ell Pakistan indirectly employs law enforcement and customs officers all over the world.
 
Ell
@CatPlusPlus Why am I a horrible human being for asking it?
 
@CatPlusPlus In his undeserved defence, he probably meant: "What does Pakistan export/produce?"
 
6:02 PM
47% of Pakistani don't do any good for the rest of the world.
 
I'm more referring to the earlier one.
 
@rubenvb Broken window >.>
 
Ell
@CatPlusPlus which one? o.O
 
@LucDanton I don't understand your unmistakenly clever joke.
 
6:04 PM
@rubenvb It's not a joke.
The broken windows theory is a criminological theory of the norm setting and signaling effect of urban disorder and vandalism on additional crime and anti-social behavior. The theory states that maintaining and monitoring urban environments in a well-ordered condition may stop further vandalism and escalation into more serious crime. The theory was introduced in a 1982 article by social scientists James Q. Wilson and George L. Kelling. Since then it has been subject to great debate both within the social sciences and in the public sphere. The theory has been used as a motivation for seve...
 
I don't see the relevance.
I spoke out of opiated thoughts
not that I do drugs.
Let's keep that clear.
 
We don't know whether those law enforcement and customs officers would be out of work if not for Pakistan. In that light, by what meaning of the term does Pakistan 'indirectly employs' them? Also, couldn't the resources allocated to their function be used somewhere else anyway?
 
Ell
isnt it strange that to live life you have to do things that reduce your life span
 
@Ell you are doing well with your rep, keep up the good work.
 
Seriously
 
Ell
6:08 PM
@Chimera not seriously? o.O
 
Neighbour is playing Gangnam Style very very loud.
 
@rubenvb Because there are people that honestly think in those terms. And I think it's an unhealthy way to look at things.
 
@LucDanton Well, I hope you don't think I think that way.
 
You're evil1
 
I can't know what you think. I can only provide rebuttals.
 
6:09 PM
I didn't know you had to be careful with black humor here.
sheesh
 
I get away with black humour often.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Knock on the door and when he opens just dance like the nasty guy in the elevator
 
@Ell Seriously, you have some good questions and answers.
 
You just have to make it blatantly obvious. Like "shoot all the people".
 
Ell
@Chimera aw woo :D I need to ask (or answer) more. And I have asked some bad ones :P
 
6:10 PM
@ManofOneWay That may have the wrong effect.
 
I suppose "obvious" is a relative term.
turning off language extensions make Intel C++ 2013 think an enum class is not an integral constant type that can be used in a switch
 
Well, humour works best if you know your audience.
 
@rubenvb Well, a scoped enumeration is not an integral type but it can be used in a switch.
 
most traumatic cat experience to date
 
@DeadMG Why, you interested?
 
6:16 PM
@LucDanton it isn't?
 
This cat has serious problems with getting shit every where
 
@rubenvb Neither is an unscoped enumeration tbh. They get promoted.
 
if my GF was not so able to clean up after it, the cleaning bills would be ridiculous, I just can't cope with it
 
Ell
yuck
 
I was lead to believe cats where clean creatures
 
6:18 PM
Jul 5 '11 at 17:22, by Xaade
There's shit on the walls
 
@LucDanton that sounds awfully complicated.
 
It is! There's even a hole when it comes to conversion.
Fuck I forget where it is.
 
oh yeah, for real! She (the cat) has shat on the walls plenty, no idea how, but she's fired it up there alright
The place has been cleaned, but all I can smell is cat shit
for the first time in my life, I have actually been put off the thought of dinner
 
> I was a Blackberry user and I was glad that Blackberry lost the war to Apple. I'm not goingļ»æ to fall for this sh*t again. It's an EVIL plot I tell you! They start making these things with bright colors to entice you, but it won't be long that with the seamless connection with PCs your companies are going to start issuing these things and ask you to work on the go with them and then sync them to your PCs. I'm going to say, no thanks. ~ Youtube comment on Nokia Lumia 920 Intro video
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes "The broken windows theory claims that Microsoft Windows is broken."
 
6:24 PM
@thecoshman Aw man, I'm psychic!
 
@FredOverflow That's a proven fact. Not theory.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes and this cat is ... shit everywhere!
 
You know, I've just found a way of getting unlimited free entertainment. Just open a random youtube video, read the comments and laugh at their retardedness.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes "Do Not Make Illegal Copies of This Disc" - :)
 
6:26 PM
 
@Mysticial Maybe they should have written "Do not do anything illegal" instead.
The mention of Louis Armstrong cracks me up every time.
 
me too :)
 
@FredOverflow lol. (I already read that though).
 
room topic changed to Lounge<C++>: It's not just safe, it's 40% safe! [c++] [c++11] [c++-faq] [xkcd]
 
I think pretty soon there will be an XKCD comic suitable for every possible discussion (with perhaps the exception of Star Wars fan discussions).
 
6:29 PM
@CatPlusPlus Where's that from?
 
Futurama.
 
@CatPlusPlus are we talking about contraception techniques?
 
Hey, VS is almost compiling my code.
3
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes wait, what? lol, guess there's even a star wars fan strip.
 
6:31 PM
@ApprenticeHacker That's not a true Star Wars fan strip, btw.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes what's it about then? I don't have enough knowledge of star wars to get the joke.
 
Nevermind. I was making a jab at Phantom Menace.
 
harharhar
I got an invitation to visit Oracle in Linz
 
Oh, that's kewl, right?
 
very
 
6:36 PM
damn, guess I used that meme wrong.
 
Yay it linked
Yayayayayayayay
 
@DeadMG In-person interview?
 
For some reason ever since I've developed this hobby of evaluating mathematical equations, my sense of humour (and common sense) has declined.
 
yeah
and I spend a week visiting them
 
I guess they wouldn't do that if they were not interested.
I'm also making a trip to foreign lands (Berlin) for an interview, btw.
 
6:39 PM
@DeadMG do they pay for the relocation?
 
Also, you interested in T2?
 
All I needed was Boost.Assignment and a ton of patience
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes Gratz
 
@ApprenticeHacker That's normal. What equations?
 
Spent the entire afternoon solving self-invented quadratics, graphing them, and using the results 2 solve self-created "real world" problems
 
6:41 PM
quadratics as in x^4 or quadratics as in xyz^2?
 
I've begun to enjoy solving #mathematical equations and marvelling at their beauty and equilibrium even more than #programming.
@rubenvb ax^2 + bx + c. Now I've started the calculus too.
 
oh, you mean x^2
 
What's so beautiful about quadratics? You can't even solve all of them without complex numbers.
 
I don't know. I just like them, I guess.
 
6:44 PM
Wait till you get to more advanced stuffs.
The beauty is in the details.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Congrats :)
 
well, I intend to reach Mechanics in about 2 or 3 months.
 
Ik wil best meedoen met #TalkLikeAPirateDay, maar ik ken eerlijk gezegd geen woord Somalisch.
> I'd join in on #TalkLikeAPirateDay, but in all honesty I don't speak one word of Somali
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Germany is awesome. (Though since I've never been there, I've only formed this conclusion from tourism brochures at airports).
 
@ApprenticeHacker Splendid. Keep broadening your horizon
 
6:48 PM
lol
 
I'm surprised how many people of SO don't know how to use GDB. So many problems can be solved if they would use it.
 
What does it mean for a hostel rate to "include linen"?
 
Is there any way to make a VS project file that references a local Boost install portable?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Where are you going? =)
 
6:52 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes You don't have to bring your own sheets and covers? I don't think I'm really helping, sorry.
 
@ApprenticeHacker They do pay for me to come visit them
 
@LucDanton Wait, you mean that is an option? Not that I'd like it, it never really crossed my mind that someone would do that.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Yes, what @LucDanton said.
 
Wow, weird.
 
@DeadMG Congratz!! =)
 
6:53 PM
It's a hostel, not a hotel
 
@ManofOneWay Berlin.
 
the only thing that's not an option is the bed itself
all the rest is optional, including the walls :P
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes If by hostel you mean something like youth hostel I'm actually not that surprised.
 
I guess it makes sense for backpackers or something.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Going up? I'm going the opposite way just tomorrow!
 
6:54 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Nice, what job btw? =)
 
@TonyTheLion so basically you can choose to stay in the hotel's main hall during all your stay as long as you pay for a bed? :D
 
@LucDanton I'm not going tomorrow, I'm still planning things.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes so are you gonna meet the Grumpy Ape (@sbi) while you're there?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Well no matter, I go back up the same day.
 
@TonyTheLion Maybe. Depends on what day I schedule this.
 
6:56 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes tell me if you meet him. Is he really as old and grumpy in real life as he pretends to be?
 
hahah
I'll just leave this here
 
@TonyTheLion aarrrggg Flash.
Instant browser slowdown.
 
I shared it on facebook.
 
Something To Behold:
Do yourself a favour. Stick it out till at least the 2'01" mark. You won't stop there. For maximum effect, do watch from the very beginning.
 
7:05 PM
is listening fine or do I have to watch?
 
@MooingDuck Listening is fine. Though the first part is interviews, and the 'nervy' girly looks are quite priceless.
... everybody is out listening? amazing stuff
 
hmm, I clicked the help button in BoundsChecker. Visual Studio hasn't repainted in like 10 minutes.
@sehe I am
 
@sehe I stopped after she stopped singing. Did I miss anything?
 
@FredOverflow :)
 
now listen to this
 
Ell
7:15 PM
I don't like american or british children singing
 
@FredOverflow na, just the judges saying she was amazing
 
@MooingDuck A bit too much in a way. I like the first responses from the judges. Odd looks, tilted faces, wondering frowns and then "Whaaat???!" partway through the second phrase. Mirrors my thoughts
The rest/aftermath was basically overblown emotional televsion-show material. Can't blame them much. But it isn't my cup of tea.
 
Ell
It is not my cup of tea either
I don't understand how a DDOS attack works. When it cant process more requests, aren't the requests just discarded?
 
@FredOverflow Well. That is obviously very nice/impressive too.
I'm just in awe of a 13 y/o who barely holds herself together before entering the stage transforming in such a natural stage persona - and voice master there.
 
Xeo
7:20 PM
Somebody get me a punching ball, or I'm so gonna break that little fuckers neck.
 
@Xeo Whose
 
@Ell yes. Along with all legitimate requests.
 
Xeo
Little brother.
 
Still putting up with them kids?
@Xeo Kay, catch... [] !
 
Xeo
try{ throw punching_ball(); }catch([]){ ... }
 
7:21 PM
@Ell it basically forces the server to do nothing except return the ping (or whatever), and leaves it no time for whatever the server is supposed to be doing. AFAIK
 
Ell
@MooingDuck Ah sorry, didn't clarify. I understand how it can "bring down" a server in that way, but how do attackers access the filesystem/steal info etc.
 
@Ell DDOS doesn't give access to anything, completely unrelated. Other than they're both mean.
 
Xeo
@Ell They don't.
DDoS is just there to make the service unavailable
 
Ell
hmmm. I am confusing it with something then
 
Xeo
That's what the name says, after all
"dedicated denial of service"
 
7:22 PM
@sehe Maybe she faked the nervousness? ;)
@Xeo Are you trying to catch a lambda? :)
 
Ell
@Xeo I thought it was distributed? o.O
 
Xeo
@FredOverflow Trying to catch a punching ball to save my little brother's neck
@Ell Was it now?
Oh, indeed was
 
Oh, so DDOS is not a Dungeons and Dragons operating system?
 
Xeo
Dunno where I caught the "dedicated"
 
Ell
that would be kewl
you have to complete quests to get access to various partitions
 
7:26 PM
@Ell That sounds boring.
 
@FredOverflow Right. What are you trying to say?
 
@sehe Some people are like that.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Apparently so. Incredible to watch it happening, though.
 
@sehe just making conversation
 
@Xeo What did he do?
 
7:29 PM
@FredOverflow Oh. Kay. Sounded a bit more skeptical than that at first ;)
 
I guess some people celebrated TalkLikeAPirateDay:
lol
 
Ell
I did for one sentence
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes He has a preset PC time per day, but you can only make Windows log him out at full hours. So, I went to tell him his time was over, and he grudgingly accepted it (after 5 minutes of drawing it out...). Then, he went downstairs and cut the power to the router.
Which he always does lately when he is frustrated.
Which is pretty much getting on my nerves.
 
int main(int arrrrrgc, char** arrrrrrrrgv)   // my contribution for this day
14
 
7:31 PM
@Xeo Move out already! (Well, assuming you have the budget.)
 
Xeo
I'm trying to!
 
Living alone is awesome.
 
Xeo
@FredOverflow typedef char charrrrrr;
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I thought that too, until I got lonely
 
Ell
I would hate to live alone
 
7:33 PM
@TonyTheLion Well, that's what getting out of the house is for.
 
Holy crap libpng has such a crappy interface
 
I don't hate it
 
Ell
I would love to live with female friends
 
sometimes it's just lonely
 
@Insilico Woah, you're still at that?
 
7:33 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes No, I went to lunch. :-)
 
Xeo
But since I don't yet work, I need to find a flat that fulfills the criteria set by the employment agency to get them to pay for it :/
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Yes true, but without a driver license that doesn't really work well for me :(
 
Ell
@TonyTheLion public transport?
 
@Xeo what are those criteria?
 
WTF, I run boundschecker (valgrind for windows) on my company's code, and found tons of errors. In Dropbox and other unrelated programs. Somehow.
 
7:34 PM
@TonyTheLion I thought you had your license already.
 
@Ell in the shithole I live?
@R.MartinhoFernandes no, working on it
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I have never been living alone in my entire life. I don't think I could handle it.
 
Ell
@TonyTheLion there must be busses?
 
Amazingly enough the building the libpng and zlib libraries were relatively painless. Now it's a matter of getting uncompressed bits to and from libpng, which is surprisingly painful with libpng's crufty C interface.
 
7:34 PM
@Ell Yea every phase change of the Moon.
 
Xeo
Certain rent per m² (cold) and a max total rent including heating.
 
Ell
hmmm. Invite other people over?
 
lol
@Ell what people?
 
Ell
@TonyTheLion friends? o.O
 
none here
just coworkers
but I don't know them long enough yet
 
Xeo
7:35 PM
atm, that's between 5 to 7 euros per m² (cold) and a total of ~400euro including heating
 
to just invite them over
 
Ell
Ahh okay. Well you will make friends?
 
Xeo
And I really don't want a flat with just one room.
 
Ell
if not, invite deadmg to stay for a week :L
 
@Xeo that's not that much, but I guess I don't know rent prices where you are
 
Xeo
7:36 PM
@TonyTheLion Well, there are certainly flats that perfectly fit that criteria, but those have ~35m² and a single living room. :/
 
@Ell not sure if could handle puppy for a week
 
Ell
is ~ above?
 
I think one day may just cut it :P
 
Xeo
~ == roughly
 
@Xeo I've lived in that.
 
7:37 PM
 
@Xeo oh right
 
@Xeo For a higher rent than that, too.
 
Xeo
I'm rather looking for 2 rooms and ~50m². There are flats like that, but they're rather rare.
 
@Ell After that, he will never want to see another human being again, ever.
 
@Xeo Wait, what do you want two living rooms for if you're living alone?
 
7:37 PM
lol
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes To invite people over?
 
the more space you have, the more you have to clean :/
 
Xeo
I personally just want a room to sleep in, and one to spend my day if I'm at home
@TonyTheLion no problem for me
 
and my flat isn't that large, but I spend enough time cleaning it
 
@Xeo I had cookouts in my single living room hole!
 
Xeo
7:39 PM
Wait, what?
 
You know, bring ingredients, cook delicious meals. And then eat it.
 
Xeo
Doesn't that kinda contradict itself? :P
 
@Xeo Erm. Ok. I have no idea why that would have to happen in a separate room :S
 
Does it? I'm not sure.
 
Xeo
7:39 PM
@LucDanton Yeah, I was just wondering about the "cook out" part
@R.MartinhoFernandes Personally preference, /shrug
 
They were cookin people.
 
Cannibals FTW!
 
@LucDanton The eating delicious meals part sounds fun. The rest... not so much.
@StackedCrooked Soylent green?
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes What, are you not into cooking?
 
(Oh gosh, I used a comma for "pause")
 
7:40 PM
@Xeo Oooh, apparently it doesn't mean 'trying to out-cook one another'.
 
Xeo
Nope, doesn't
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Soylent Green, a 1973 dystopian science fiction film starring Charlton Heston. (Never heard of it.)
 
I suppose I was thinking 'cook-off'. But it was all collaborative.
 
@StackedCrooked Oh, you never seen it? Man, I was this close to spoiling it.
 
Xeo
oops
 
7:42 PM
facepalm
 
Xeo
I swear I didn't intend to do that!
 
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Q: Is a lookup table a form of hash table?

learnvstI am trying to see if I am conceptually correct here . . If I'm trying to avoid having to compute a computationally expensive someExpensiveFun(x) for every element in an array of floating point data x, say bounded to values between zero and one, one can first precompute the output of the expens...

 
Soylent Green is not that bad, you might like it. But it varies from person to person.
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Ell
does anyone know of a show with similar humor to that of "Tim and Eric Awesome Show Great Job"?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I guess there are cookin people.
 
7:42 PM
Shamelessly lifted from Futurama.
 
Xeo
@LucDanton lift futurama_joke?
 
Sure, why not. I'm not typechecking that though.
 
I've never watched a full futurama episode :(
 
snake_case in Haskell looks weird.
 
7:44 PM
WTF is that?
 
WTF is what?
 
that
 
That spider next to your left wrist.
 
snake_case <--- WTF is that??
 
@TonyTheLion under_scores.
 
7:45 PM
@TonyTheLion the same case used throughout the stl? All lowercase with underscores separating words?
 
Ell
`snake_case`
`camelCase`
`PascalCase`
 
@TonyTheLion Erm, it's self-descriptive.
 
Xeo
@StackedCrooked lol
 
@StackedCrooked r/nope
 
7:45 PM
lolz
 
Xeo
@Ell multiline markdown fail
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes oh I thought it was some function or something.
meh :/
 
snake_case of foo
 
Snake case (or snake_case), is the practice of writing compound words or phrases in which the elements are separated with one underscore character (_) and no spaces, with each element's initial letter usually lowercased within the compound and the first letter either upper or lower caseā€”as in "foo_bar", "Hello_world". It is commonly used in computer code for variable names, and function names, and sometimes computer filenames. Variants Screaming Snake Case References
 
Ell
@Xeo yep :L I dont know how to fix
 
7:47 PM
> Variants: Screaming Snake Case
lol
 
I kinda like snake_case
for variables
better than camelCase or PascalCase or whatever
 
Ell
i mix PascalCase and snake_case. Don't know why
 
Xeo
Robot adopted PascalCase for aliases
@R.MartinhoFernandes redlink :(
 
I just coined the phrase "We'll hump that leg when we get to it." I am both sorry and proud. More of the latter, honestly. #fuckyeahhumping
 
I use PascalCase and snake_case in C++, and PascalCase and camelCase in Haskell.
 
7:48 PM
I think I'd prefer lispy-names over snake_case, but I've never really tried.
 
@LucDanton Doesn't work in C++...
 
In JavaScript is use PascalCase for types, snake_case for variables, camelCase for functions.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes ikr. Also, where are my primes, seconds, etc.
 
Oh yeah, primes are awesome for identifiers.
 
@Ell What does a Pascal animal look like? :)
 
7:51 PM
I think smart people should devise syntax separately than the rest of a language. I'd like to see progress be made in those matters independently from the rest of language research.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes You could use a font with a lifted underscore :p
 
I'm not saying every language should have the same syntax but some issues like 'what constitutes an identifier/operator' are very prone to bikeshedding yet completely unimportant to semantics.
 
@TonyTheLion Crop, crop, mate
 
@TonyTheLion In narrator's voice :)
 
7:53 PM
@TonyTheLion ...so variables don't have parenthesis around their parameters? :)
 
Xeo
@TonyTheLion Wait, variables have parameters?
 
@FredOverflow Who cares. As long as he owns at tetris
 
Hey, haven't we lifted 'what constitutes a regular expression, syntactically'? That would be an example of what I mean.
 
He pwnd the tetris
who cares about variables and parameters
lol
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes Wait, primes?
 
Xeo
those kinds of primes?
 
@Xeo no lol
 
@Ell Camel_Snake
 
@Xeo x, x', x''.
 
Xeo
ah
 
Ell
7:56 PM
camel_Snake case :P
Pa_snake Case
 
@TonyTheLion I found a mini version to download hours ago. :/
 
Xeo
@TonyTheLion Oh, another one that's eating my RAM...
 
good afternoon everyone :)
 
@TonyTheLion Meh, broken images and a note? What kind of lazy fuck did that?
 
7:59 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes I did notice it takes a while to load
 

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