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5:00 PM
I can't seem to load the webpage. But nvm. I know what a "don't steal" web page looks like :)
 
DNS poisoning is really lame way to block websites.
Competent ISPs usually do forced redirects or straight blackholing to do that.
 
@CatPlusPlus Well, Belgian telco's are all but competent.
 
@CatPlusPlus yeah, I think that's probably what my ISP does.
 
Buy a VPN.
 
I'm perfectly satisfied with good ol' ultra-surf and a decent proxy.
 
5:02 PM
Usenet
There's pretty cheap solutions.
 
Public proxies are useless.
And usually can only tunnel HTTP traffic.
 
@CatPlusPlus enough for getting at the torrents.
 
@CatPlusPlus except for the awesome ones I use. I get about 96 - 97% speed.
 
I think a VPN is the bestest. It's sad that you have to pay for the full Internet experience, but well.
 
Or do you really proxy torrent traffic as well?
 
5:04 PM
It's not about the speed.
 
then, what?
 
Trust and security.
 
@rubenvb With a VPN you can.
 
5:05 PM
@CatPlusPlus because people who charge you money are more trustable and secure?
@R.MartinhoFernandes that's got to be dead-slow. Proxied torrent traffic.
I'd still pay for usenet waaaay over proxies
 
@rubenvb They don't stay in the business if they're not.
 
@rubenvb Why would it be dead-slow?
It's just one extra step in the chain.
 
@rubenvb not really. My download speeds are about 200 - 250 Kb/s. Pretty decent.
 
@FredOverflow Humping like a rabbit :P
 
Dammit. I was talking about VPS :D
 
5:07 PM
@StackedCrooked You can use your VPS to set up a VPN!
 
Anyway. Dinner time.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Yeah, but I don't really have trouble with blocked content.
 
My interwebs download speed is 2.6 Megabits.
 
Here we go again. I have no idea what that means.
 
0.3 megabytes per second
 
5:08 PM
Divide by 10 and you get roughly MB/s.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Hmm. I guess I'm exaggerating .
@StackedCrooked divide by 8.
 
greetings.
 
I need an answer to downvote.
Now.
 
@rubenvb I know, but it's easier to divide by 10.
 
Overhead isn't easily divided out of the theoretical Mbps
 
Ell
5:10 PM
Arr me mateys, I be wonderin' if there be a freely available song database
for download yarrr
 
@Ell Are you saying that like a pirate?
 
I'm unlucky and lucky at the same time. Unlucky because I can't get cable internet at my apartment so I have to get a slower DSL connection. I'm lucky because I actually get 30 Mbit on my DSL which is the maximum possible obtainable speed. The further away you are from the phone central the slower your connection. Apparently I'm pretty close.
 
2
A: How to Develop Web Compiler for c, c++, java

BgiYou could use shell_exec() and gcc. I.e. basically compile from command-line with the usual compilers (g++, javac among others). Always be careful of the security though, restrict the rights of the user compiling and running the compiled programs.

 
For tomorrow we need to write a web page as a homework assignment. I wrote a web server.
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@kbok Hmm, I don't understand that one :(
 
5:12 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes ha! I just noticed your chat "about" message.
 
:) (It's a quote from one of Fred's messages)
 
Okay, my computer and/or Photoshop is choking when trying to duplicate the 32 165888 pixel wide strips into a giant PNG. Might be time to memory-map the whole damn thing myself.
 
@Ell isn't there freedb?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes You don't think using shellexec() is a bad idea ?
 
@kbok I don't know what it is.
 
5:13 PM
What's a decent PNG library that would work with huge memory-mapped PNGs?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes what?
 
And I want to downvote something, not investigate :P
@FredOverflow Click my avatar in chat and read the text.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I think it's similar to system(...).
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes oh, thanks :)
 
5:14 PM
@kbok Oh gawd.
Ok. Now I need one and only one upvote in one of my questions not answers.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes This one's free : stackoverflow.com/questions/4112088/…
 
std::tuple and boost.assignment: list_of or tuple_list_of?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes done
 
Woot!
I'm at 50k exact.
 
5:16 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes I almost upvoted you, too :)
50005 would have made a nice palindrome :)
 
@daknøk And did you write a web page or not?
 
I need upvotes on 245 questions, pronto! :) just kidding
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Yes.
 
But the teacher wants me to learn new things, so I won’t focus on the web page. He doesn’t care what I do, as long as it is similar to the assignment and I learn something new.
 
5:18 PM
Why would you do more work for homework?
 
<html> <body> <h1> My Webpage </h1> </body> </html>
webpage done :)
 
Fuck this.
 
@daknøk And writing a web server is similar to the original assignment of writing a web page? :-)
 
@TonyTheLion Missing <head> and <title>, won’t validate.
@Insilico Yes. xD
 
@rubenvb The more pressing issue is whether there's support for std::tuple at all.
 
5:18 PM
fuck HTML
 
@daknøk How about some JavaScript? :)
 
@daknøk Wait, it's supposed to be an HTML page?
 
Complete waste of time.
 
I thought it was a web page.
 
@FredOverflow Yeah, I’ll add some JavaScript too.
 
5:19 PM
@LucDanton it doesn't seem so. Problem is, std::make_tuple no workie here for reasons archived in chat history.
 
@FredOverflow ...and now he has it.
 
You're crazy and bad at doing homework.
 
Plain text files are people web pages too!
 
@JerryCoffin lol
 
The server’s code is somewhat terrible and has an epic security fail, but it works.
 
5:19 PM
that moment I'm too lazy to go buy a pot of Nutella
 
I had the web page done already in ten minutes after we got the assignment.
 
And wednesday is free so I need to have something to do.
 
@JerryCoffin Haha, thanks.
 
Oh, so close to 2K rep!
 
5:20 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes You're quite welcome.
 
Ell
@daknøk I know what you can do! make a website with a big list of songs, artists, albums, cds etc.
then have torrent links to every song
 
So here's the plan. I'll memory map a 1,358,954,496 byte file (165888 x 65536 @ 1 bit/pixel) then stream in uncompressed bits from a PNG reader then stream it out to a PNG writer. Should be "simple".
 
@Ell No we got a screenshot of a web page and we had to make a web page resembling it, without using images.
 
Ell
but you want torrents that someone checks, not like TPB where anyone can upload a torrent
 
5:21 PM
Didn't get any rep yesterday only got 20 today. 2k is far far away
 
Ell
ahh right
 
Anybody want to upvote some worthy answers and questions for me?
 
@Insilico Wait, what? Your calculations seem off, somehow.
 
:-)
 
@Ell TBP is checked. There's green and purple pirate icons things
 
Ell
5:22 PM
@Insilico whaaaaaaat 1,358,954,496 GB!?
but TPB is down IIRC :P
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Typo. Bytes, not gigabytes. -__-
 
What TPB down?
 
Ell
yarh its just here :/
 
5:23 PM
I'm at work, so I'm afraid to try it
 
Anybody know of a non-crappy "streaming" PNG writer/reader library workable with C++ compilers?
 
Also, http://www.google.com/#q=filetype:torrent+whatever
 
@Chimera Give as a couple of awesome answers and we might consider upvoting.
 
@FredOverflow ok will do
 
5:24 PM
@Insilico I'm glad you asked again, because some library that does exactly what you need was developed 10 minutes ago!
 
@Ell google DNS. Works in 75% of the world
 
> My variables change from robot to robot
 
@FredOverflow Will it not crash and burn when used to read/write huge PNGs?
 
@kbok lolwut
 
5:24 PM
@FredOverflow I didn't do anything!
 
5
Q: Object Oriented Design - Convert C Application to C++

ChimeraI'm starting the process of learning C++ and object oriented design. What are the known / common techniques for converting procedural code to object-oriented code? What design choices make sense for the following code? typedef struct { int sector; int sectorPos; }EndPosition; typedef st...

 
> My variables change from robot to robot so with one they are defined as [...] pos e6pos but with another they are boolean num float string robtarget target
 
On that one DeadMG answered, so if you like his answer you can upvote him as well
 
@Ell fucktimkuik.org redirects to a random proxy. Tim Kuik is the idiot in the Netherlands who started the case against the ISPs.
 
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Q: Programming Linux application to play multiple sounds simultaneously

ChimeraI've got a need to write a Linux application that does the following: 1- Continuously play a WAV file in the background. So the entire time the application is running this background music plays. 2- Be able to play short sounds when certain events happen while the background music continues to ...

 
5:26 PM
Dude.
 
Downloading my Google Maps downgrade for iOS
 
Those are questions, not answers.
3 mins ago, by FredOverflow
@Chimera Give as a couple of awesome answers and we might consider upvoting.
 
3
A: segments within a executable C program

ChimeraTo understand the output of readelf it will help for you to understand the format of an ELF file. Please reference this document. As far as understanding how to interpret the output of readelf this link may be of help. As to your question 2, this link describes the segments. In that document se...

this is an answer
 
Alternative plan: accept 66 answers :)
Why do you want 2000 again?
 
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A: Timer library in C

ChimeraSince you are running Linux, I would recommend using the built in POSIX timer API's. int timer_create(clockid_t clockid, struct sigevent *sevp, timer_t *timerid); Here is a link to some documentation showing how to use POSIX timers which provide support for callback functions. Regarding mult...

 
5:28 PM
Can you at least not onebox them?
 
You are so spamming right now
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes How do you not onebox them?
 
Should I spend 100€ on an SSD? I have been thinking about it for a long time...
 
Ell
@FredOverflow yes imho
 
SSDs are so fast
 
5:29 PM
@Chimera By not posting only a link.
 
Do it
 
@FredOverflow Desktop or laptop ?
 
@Chimera Put something else on the same message.
 
I don't have AHCI or whatever it's called.
@kbok probably both :)
 
@FredOverflow Yes, they are now proven to work very well
 
5:30 PM
Buy RAM first.
 
already maxed out at 8GB
 
@FredOverflow You should spend €160 and get more than 200GB
 
@FredOverflow I can't give you advice, but please tell us about the results if you do. I'm interested.
 
@rubenvb I'm not even using 50G, why would I want 200G?
 
5:32 PM
@FredOverflow how do you succeed in not using 50GB?
you do program stuff right?
 
Because all my long-term stored stuff is on another 1TB drive :)
My system partition and home partition on my first HD are filled up to 50G right now.
 
Ell
I have a 120gb and a 1tb hdd
 
oh
And Linux helps obviously.
 
Ell
linux & windows on ssd (windows is stupidly big -.-), steam games & st00f on hdd
 
5:33 PM
I use 4 drives in raid 0 for speed ...
 
@rubenvb Well, I don't use Visual Studio, so... :)
But I might reinstall Windows 7 for Visual Studio 2012 if I like it.
Oh wait, my 1TB drive is actually just 900 GiB. Which is still far more than I'll ever need :)
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes This is hilarious
 
@Ell Dammit, you already bought Torchlight II.
 
@FredOverflow You probably won't. Although all the Windows 8 UI stuff is pretty slick.
 
We (two people) wanted to buy a four-pack, but we need moar peoplez.
 
5:35 PM
VS doesn't really use much of the UI coolness.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes That is amazing.
 
@rubenvb VS2012 uses Windows 8 UI on Windows 7?
 
Ell
@R.MartinhoFernandes I think my older brother has 2 spare, maybe
 
@FredOverflow the installer does.
and it looks a bit different menu-wise
 
@rubenvb Can't I just sudo apt-get install oh wait...
 
5:36 PM
@FredOverflow sudo apt-get install wine && wine setup.exe.... oh wait.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes How does chipping in work?
 
Does Visual Studio work under Wine?
 
It wines.
 
Ell
I doubt it :L
 
@FredOverflow No
lol they think 2012 is v12
 
5:37 PM
A friend of mine got a job at Ericsson very recently, doing stuff in C++. Now, after a one month introduction, he was told that he will not be writing code in C++, instead he will write code in ... Perl. FAIL!
 
@rubenvb Who is "they"?
 
@FredOverflow wine appdb people.
 
@ManofOneWay They probably used C++ to make Perl look a little less ugly.
 
@LucDanton Dunno. Since we two can meet in meatspace we were planning to simply use cash. But none of our other meatspace friends seem interested.
 
@ManofOneWay So is he still working there?
 
5:40 PM
@ManofOneWay Hopefully the friend knows and can write Perl well?
 
You can migrate existing operating systems onto SSDs? Interesting. I'll probably just reinstall, anyway :)
 
I think I'm buying Guild Wars 2 before Torchlight 2.
 
Ell
@R.MartinhoFernandes ahh sorry he already sold the copies or something
 
@Ell It's okay.
 
Ell
@CatPlusPlus it is out already isn't it?
 
5:40 PM
@Chimera Never used it.
 
How many months/years does it take to master Perl?
 
For about two weeks.
 
@FredOverflow to master perl? Not even Larry has done that
 
@robjb He is, but he started with Perl yesterday or something
 
@FredOverflow Perl can't be mastered
 
5:41 PM
Or maybe more. I have trouble keeping track of time lately.
 
Thanks to whomever upvoted one of my answers.
 
@LucDanton Well, if you're interested and know how to deal with the monies, we only need one more. Having three people in may work for convincing one of our meatspace friends.
 
@ManofOneWay I don't know if I'd stay with an employer that flat out lied about job requirements
 
@FredOverflow I would say so. Just mirror the drive and you should be good to go.
 
@robjb Maybe the requirements changed and they didn't lie?
 
5:42 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes I'm afraid I can't quite commit. Several releases these days and I'm still not sure what I'm going to play.
 
robot
how much is a four-pack for T2?
 
@Chimera maybe
 
@DeadMG The price of three copies.
57€.
 
@rubenvb I reinstall Ubuntu with each new release, anyway. So I think I'll just wait for the next Ubuntu and then buy the SSD. Should only be a couple of weeks left.
 
5:43 PM
Also Borderlands 2, I don't have a budget for everything waaah.
 
What the hell is T2? And what is a four-pack of it?
 
A thing.
And four-pack has four things.
It's not very complicated.
 
@ManofOneWay Torchlight 2. It's a game. A four-pack is a pack with four copies of the game.
 
Is it some kind of card game ?
 
@FredOverflow Given that parsing Perl is undecidable, I'd say mastering it probably is too.
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5:45 PM
No.
 
Then why would you want to buy 4 copies?
 
Because it's multiplayer coop game?
 
@ManofOneWay Wait, you mean card games are the only games that can be played with more than one person?
 
@FredOverflow heh, ubuntu. You're missing out on the true Linux experience.
 
And you maybe possibly would want to play with friends?
 
5:46 PM
@rubenvb I don't have time for complicated operating systems, sorry ;)
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I'm saying I've never heard about a game before being sold in 4-packs
 
@ManofOneWay It's normal (when appropriate) on Steam.
 
You've never been on Steam, so either way get out of that cave.
 
@FredOverflow lol. I bet you'll spend less time updating an Arch than you do Ubuntu.
 
5:48 PM
Until that update that breaks the system arrives.
 
@rubenvb cough
 
Granted, they only had two of those in the past half a year.
 
Updating Arch requires way more care than Ubuntu.
If you don't keep eyes on the mailing list, you're toast.
 
Ell
ubuntu is just click update button when the update manager appears
 
I borked my VPS while updating Arch last month. Had to open a maintenance shell to fix it.
 
5:49 PM
I knew about the breaking updates and still updating fresh server installation that predated them took me about 2 hours.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes never had issues for my VM used as desktop. The front page sometimes says you have to execute a couple of commands manually. Other than that, just pacman -Syu
 
Ubuntu 12.04 is crap though, random freezes on my computer. Had to downgrade to 11.10
 
@rubenvb Exactly. It's never "just pacman -Syu".
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes So? I didn't say it would be automatic. I said it would save time.
 
It's always at least "Check if 'just pacman -Syu' will bork everything; and then pacman -Syu".
Erm, in my book, spending time checking if you can update doesn't count as saving time.
 
5:51 PM
pacman is a thousand times faster than ubuntu's apt-get.
 
That's an unattended operation.
Time saved there is marginal (I'm sure I picked the wrong word there).
 
not in my experience.
but whatever.
 
And also, most of the time is spent downloading anyway.
 
Unless you like to spend time looking at progress bars, but at the same time want to minimize that time, I mean.
 
Differences might show when installing individual packets, but not when upgrading everything.
 
5:53 PM
Blasphemy is punishable by life in prison or death in Pakistan.
that's sick
 
Arch is still better, but downplaying the difficulties is stupid.
 
@CatPlusPlus I guess I had too much crap with other Linux distros and binary driver blobs and stuff in the past.
 
Ell
@ManofOneWay I wonder what would change about the world if pakistan suddenly sank immediately
 
And I guess I do very very little with my Arch compared to others.
 
That guy really only wanted to generate (i, j) pairs. The std::vector was used as a mean.
 
5:55 PM
@Ell people would die. More than they do today.
 
@Ell Sea water levels would raise.
Climate change deniers would use that as an argument.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes that's not a given.
 
@rubenvb Erm, why not?
 
Ell
okay let me rephrase that. What good does pakistan do for the rest of the country? (not rhetorical)
 
Pakistan is the country.
 
5:56 PM
hey can one of you guys move my problem to the computational science overflow?
i feel it would get a better answer there
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Q: GSL interpolation error, values must be x values must be monotonically increasing

pyCthonHi my problem is that my data set is monotonically increasing but towards the end the of the data it looks like it does below ,where some of the x[i-1] = x[i] as shown below. This causes an error to be raised in GSL because it thinks that the values are not monotonically increasing. Is there a so...

 
We can't, sorry. All we can do is flag it for a moderator to move. But that you can do too.
 
No mods here. Use a flag.
 
i flaged it already zzzz
thanks any way
 
Then what the hell is that question for.
@Ell What.
 
Ell
aww maan "you have 9 seconds left for editing"
 
5:58 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes All of the Earth's crust could shift, leaving the sea level where it is, or a large undiscovered void below Pakistan could collapse to make it actually sink.
 
Ell
I mean world, not country
 
@CatPlusPlus was hoping a mod was here
 
@Ell Presumably you meant: "What good does Pakistan do for the rest of the world?"
 
Ell
@JerryCoffin I did :)
 
It's not a good idea to pester anyone about your THING that absolutely needs to be done NOW.
Wait your turn, you're not a special snowflake.
 
5:59 PM
@Ell It serves as an example of what not to turn into?
 
@Ell Are you really serious?
 
@Ell Seriously, it's just a bad question.
 
Because what the fuck.
 
Close as not constructive.
 

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