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2:29 AM
So, whats a good icon to represent taking a background (dark frame) calibration?
Maybe some kind of upload motif because you're "storing" a background correction? flaticon.com/free-icon/…
 
 
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6:56 AM
@Mikhail What about a picture frame with black background? :)
 
7:12 AM
@CatPlusPlus This is true for the really big games. Small ones though...
I bet my entire RTS with all assets would fit into 1GB of RAM
 
7:51 AM
@BartekBanachewicz A really fuckin' important cache, I feel is the key thing here.
 
@Puppy again, only really for the big games
if you're making a cutting-edge AAA title and need absolutely all performances you can get, sure
 
I don't really know what the magnitude cutoffs are
 
@Puppy Alright, so, for the RTS I was planning to reimplement Warcraft II mechanics
that game ran on 66Mhz CPUs just fine
 
 
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9:24 AM
^ I did a photoshoot there yesterday
 
nwp
Of the landscape or other people or you?
 
Other people of me
Wearing a Totoro kigurumi
Obviously
There are always plenty of people taking photos here when the weather isn't too bad, but yesterday we were probably the most original ones x)
 
nwp
9:40 AM
Did it turn out cute or dumb?
 
Answer in a few days once my friend has sorted and edited the pics
But from what I could see on his camera, some pics look overly cute xD
Other one smight look overly dumb though :p
 
 
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11:12 AM
Is there any C++ developers who can help me out? I am willing to pay..
 
@Kabone you can hit me up on codementor.io if you want paid help
 
Alright signing up now
Also I guess I am looking more for a freelancer rather a mentor
 
11:28 AM
or hop on over to the Q&A room we setup to avoid question spam
 
11:51 AM
Fake bravery is when you drive a boat to a remote island, get into water & being the only one in the ocean there. Then sees a large octopus wondering whether it's poisons. But soon after sighting a 1 meter fish/shark, quickly get back into the boat and never being back to the ocean again.
Fake bravery, I haz it!
The meter long shark/fish was fast 😭
 
12:04 PM
There is nothing romantic about being alone in the crystal clear ocean next to a boat, it’s scary.
You never know what sea creatures are lurking around.
 
nwp
12:33 PM
Don't try this is scotland.
 
 
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4:23 PM
It should not matter that the map is in shared memory, at least not for the access itself. But maybe you need a semaphore or a mutex to prevent multiple, parallel access. — Rene 4 hours ago
That's a nice underestimation
People tend to forget that while allocators are a nice abstraction, shared memory allocators are necessarily stateful, and stateful allocators require lots of library support and hand-holder by the programmer. — sehe 6 secs ago
@Mysticial Where did the bag go
 
Apparently the Cat is out of the bag
 
I think it got shredded
 
Shröded.
Ding ding ding
 
5:01 PM
I cant find where but im almost 100% certain he says the code is available on GitHub, but I couldnt find it :(
 
 
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7:42 PM
@sehe std::future_errc::broken_promise ;)
oh well guess I'll have to wait and hope he hasn't forgotten to put them up
 
@Mgetz I'd rather go long on AMD rather than short Intel.
 
@Mysticial I meant it in the stock sense
 
Yeah, that's what I meant.
 
8:34 PM
I'd tend to agree: AMD is doing well, but Intel is still selling chips (at a very decent profit margin, I'm pretty sure) about as fast as they can make them.
 
Intel still has:
1. Brand loyalty.
2. Single-threaded performance.
3. HPC performance
4. Money to bribe retailers.
I don't see Intel going downhill until #1 and #2 start to crack.
 
@Mysticial You skipped the most important one: Long term contracts with every PC manufacturer.
 
@JerryCoffin I'd wrap that under #1.
 
That's... some kind of mandatory loyalty, yeah
 
@Mysticial I guess I can live with that, even though I'd see them as separate.
 
8:40 PM
But still a fair point.
How long do these contracts usually last?
 
@Mysticial Not really certain, but I'd guess 5 years.
Just for one other example where I do have experience, most patent licenses are re-negotiated at 5-year intervals.
 
How do they even work? "You are required to only buy Intel for the next 5 years otherwise we can sue you for all your assets including your children for slavery?"
Or is it buying 5 years of hardware/support, but paying upfront for it?
 
@Mysticial No--they had some on that general order at one time, but they've been judged illegal. Now they're mostly: "you guarantee you'll buy at last N million dollars a year, and we'll guarantee your supply, and give you an M% discount."
 
@JerryCoffin Oh ok. So it is possible to break out of the contract for a viable competitor.
 
@Mysticial It is, but from what I understand, Intel will typically offer a much bigger discount if the "N million" is as much as you stand much chance of selling. As I understand things, if (for example) HP is doing poorly on sales at a given moment, they're often better off selling some at a loss than cutting volume and losing their discount.
 
8:50 PM
@JerryCoffin IBM was once in similar situations
 
@JerryCoffin And the discount of M% is after they've marked it up for an equivalent amount. :)
 
@Mysticial It certainly still includes a very decent profit margin for Intel--but I think the base price is the same for everybody, so if one manufacturer gets a 30% discount, they really are getting it for less than a smaller vendor that only gets a 25% discount. To be honest, I think the big attraction for both is generally stability though.
A difference of 4% on the CPU isn't going to kill HP or Dell, but knowing they'll have supply, and won't have to pay triple if the supply runs short matters a lot (and the same, of course, with nVidia, memory vendors, and so on).
 
@JerryCoffin "Stability" meaning "track record"?
IOW, people aren't going to easily switch from something which they know works.
I'd also loop that into brand loyalty. But one of the reasons for the stability is probably because of the wide margins. Once there's any market pressure, the margins will start thinning out and they'll start to cut corners - which will bring down the stability/quality.
 
@Mysticial Not so much track record, but Intel guaranteeing that they will provide N chips per quarter, and if chip supply runs short, you'll still get a supply even if others can't. Good bet that Intel pays a hefty penalty if HP or Dell needs chips, and Intel can't supply them (up to some limit, of course).
 
ah
IOW, Intel sells derivatives for its products to select high-volume customers.
 
9:01 PM
So, you and I buying chips one at a time on Newegg (or whatever) are subject to a lot of fluctuation. HP and Dell already know pretty well what they'll need to pay Intel for a CPU in (for example) the run-up to the Christmas season of, say, 2020.
@Mysticial More or less, yeah--basically a privately run commodities market.
 
@Borgleader sharp
 
9:19 PM
@JerryCoffin That has me wondering. If the retailer (like HP or Dell) has higher demand that is needed to satisfy their end of the Intel contract, they are free to buy AMD right? Is it illegal to have anti-competitive clauses in such contracts? (i.e. "You cannot buy non-Intel or else...") And if it is legal, how would Intel even enforce. (though I guess Intel can just probe their product line)
 
@Mysticial Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's illegal for Intel to include any clause that penalizes somebody for buying AMD.
 
9:48 PM
It's perfectly legal, however, for them to say something like: "you sold a total of 3 million PCs last year. If you agree to buy 3.3 million CPUs from us annually, we'll give you a 15% discount" (so they can now get 3.3 million CPUs for less than they'd pay for only 3 million without the discount).
 
Anyone tried to rewrite old async code with C++ coroutines? I've found that they don't really work with weak_ptrs - have to write lots of boilerplate. Any workarounds?
 
don't be terrible
 
A few days ago, multiple own apps malfunctioning, multiple places & other issues need resolving back in Sydney. I wanted to be back in Sydney to solve all those problems. But now holiday is ending, I would rather be out here swimming with tropical fishes than solving all these problems :/
 
10:10 PM
@Puppy Seems like reasonable advice in general.
 
nwp
10:39 PM
@StackedCrooked Coliru died. Down for over 10 minutes now.
 
 
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11:57 PM
@nwp Yeah. I noticed as well.
Couldn't figure out what went wrong. But it seems to have healed.
 

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