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Jun 10 at 2:47, by Etienne de Martel
The Ape is always watching. Watching you.
> Give a tortoise a heady rush and the thrill of a lifetime by moonwalking past it. — Moose Allain
@Insilico Oh, you're in denial. You didn't learn, but that doesn't mean there is no damage
@sbi I thought you was a bonobo.
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@sbi php can't be > than php
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Apes are Old World anthropoid mammals, more specifically a clade of tailless catarrhine primates, belonging to the biological superfamily Hominoidea. The apes are native to Africa and South-east Asia. Apes are the largest primates and the orangutan, an ape, is the largest living arboreal animal. Hominoids are traditionally forest dwellers, although chimpanzees may range into savanna, and the extinct australopithecines are famous for being savanna inhabitants, inferred from their morphology. Humans inhabit almost every terrestrial habitat. Hominoidea contains two families of living (ext...
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23:02
Read well.
Jun 21 at 22:40, by sbi
@Insilico No. As I have said numerous times, my avatar is a gorilla, while I am a bonobo.
So are you actually an ape, a gorilla, or a bonobo? :-P
yesterday, by sbi
@TonyTheLion Grrr!
@sehe So sbi can change species?
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so he's actually a ditto
@Insilico What are you asking me for? He might be able to, but I don't see the relevance
23:06
@sehe It has learned to mimic the sounds of other animals.
user1182183
anyon please unclose ? :(
Jul 27 '11 at 7:59, by sbi
@JK I'm not a panda. I'm a grumpy old bonobo, disguised as a gorilla.
I'm just gonna call sbi a goribonape.
@GamErix It might work if you provided a reason why you think it needs to be unclosed
@GamErix Also, that's the 3rd time you link to your own question. Drive-by linking is frowned upon
See the newbie-hints
@GamErix What's wrong with the linked duplicate?
23:09
@sehe Yeah, I considered binning him twice.
But I restrained myself.
@StackedCrooked I don't usually mind unless it is oneboxed. Also, attention whoring gets on my nerves after a while, which is why I mentioned it
nothing to see here
user1182183
If you look at the two topics they aren't that smillar, also, the other question is not answered - like mine.
50 mins ago, by sehe
Nah.We're all very patient. Or we wouldn't be here.
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23:12
@Insilico Are you Elbert Mai or are you a human?
@sbi Let me draw you a diagram.
user1182183
in the other topic they talk about calculating time with difficult formulas, and I want another algorithm, the two questions are (totally?) unrelated to each other.
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@Insilico Draw your fucking diagram for yourself. You seem to need it! :)
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And other people want it to be open
@sbi Author of Lightweight Generic C++ callbacks? I had never heard of him before...
23:13
 +-------------------+
 | Human  +--------+ |
 |        | Elbert | |
 |        +--------+ |
 +-------------------+
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@GamErix What are you even ranting about?
@sbi Language, language
user1182183
I want my question to be opened :(
There. Observe my crazy ASCII art.
@sbi about a closed question of his
user1182183
23:14
that's what I am ranting (what is that) about
@GamErix You asked politely. Now, sit and wait :)
@StackedCrooked Because I'm just a stupid student at a university. :-)
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@sehe He's ranting about language?
+-------------------+
| Apes   +--------+ |
|        | Gorilla| |
|        +--------+ |
|        +--------+ |
|        | Bonobo | |
|        +--------+ |
|        ...        |
+-------------------+
@Insilico See.
@Insilico I don't really understand. Are you Elbert Mai or not?
@sbi I wonder why you ask that. Does hovering the mouse not work? Click the follow arrow? Hell, just ignore the message if you don't fancy finding out :)
23:15
@StackedCrooked Yes.
Aah, just saw that on your profile page :p
@sbi Well, pardon me for not memorizing the phylogenetic tree of life.
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@sehe Will do. (Hey, I've had five beers since ~8pm. It's now 1:15am. I am excused just about anything on grounds of that.)
Technically "Ape" should be "Great Ape", but now I'm splitting hairs.
@StackedCrooked Yeah. The article was written specifically to answer one of the SO questions here.
@sbi You can only hope you will be :) I'm going the hit the sack myself. My fingers don't type anything straight the first time around
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23:17
@Insilico Who does, really, besides Richard Dawkins? But not knowing what ape means? Now that's a bit pathetic, really.
@sbi Meh. So I don't know some shit.
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@Insilico "I am confused, is it A or B?" "Yes."
@Insilico Now you're getting offending! :)
@sbi Programmer's logic, no? :-)
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Well, I guess I'd better go to bed, too. Yawns.
Good night, folks.
@sbi Nite.
23:21
@sbi Night.
Do search engines crawl chat transcripts?
@Insilico Indeed they do
A lot of what turns up for my name is Stack stuff
@KianMayne Why? Isn't really much useful stuff here. :-P
@Insilico Google with quotes: "Don't worry, I successfully resisted doing an in-order tree traversal of all the TVTropes links". (From one of your chat messages: chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/10?m=2696857#2696857).
/b/ is crawled. 'nuff said.
23:25
I must be bored :p
@StackedCrooked Eh. Pretty much everything I write here are brain droppings.
@StackedCrooked But how can we bore you. Tall task order
Tall task?
Does that mean difficult?
Tall order?
Eugh. What the hell does " 'Subject' type must derive from DependencyObject." mean
I think that means it's time for sleep
23:27
@KianMayne What does A must derive from B mean?
I don't know D: I'm fried
But subject is a struct
and I don't know
@KianMayne Clippy: "It looks like you're trying to program in Java. Do you want some help with that?"
@KianMayne class Subject : public DependencyObject {}?
@sehe So that means I'm not easily bored, or in other words, easily entertained?
@sehe I'm not; it's C#
23:28
@StackedCrooked That's my assumption, yes
@KianMayne You need to sharpen up!
@StackedCrooked Nice pun :|
@Insilico struct
It's the last thing in my big model simplification today
struct Subject : public DependencyObject {} then.
23:29
@sehe When I said "I must be bored." I lied for the sake of conversation. Yes, I'm a low kind of person.
:p
@StackedCrooked Or it could be that English is an unbelieveably imprecise language. :-P
@Insilico Dutch is worse.
Say I have an event, that occurred at (t1) and I want to visualize a real-time view of all events on a surface. Now every n miliseconds the view is updated, which means that the total time advances by Nms, that also means that the event at t1's position is going to be update too (t1/ttotal) * width. Given that Width is constant, t1 is constant. I'm trying to figure out a simple formula for how much the position of t1 will move every update.

I'm trying to avoid having to calculate t1/ttotal on every update, but instead if I knew by how much ttotal advances every update, I would calculate th
@StackedCrooked I have a hard time believing that for some reason.
I'm now a bit confused about the formula for that factor on every update. Could someone please help me with this?
23:31
@KarimA We don't even know the context of your problem.
@Insilico Dutch has fewer means to add nuance to what you are trying to say.
Is there any way of saying like <Setter Property="SubjectData" Value="[Variable - Subject.Empty]" />
@In
@insilico, I'm trying to phrase it in a way to free you from having to know the context - give me a sec, I'll rephrase it again.
With Subject.Empty being a specific Subject with empty properties
@KianMayne Aren't you in the wrong place?
23:32
@KarimA Well first of all, what's a "real-time view of all events on a surface"?
@StackedCrooked Yes
I have no idea what that is.
say that pos = (t/ttotal) * width.
ttotal grows by a constant factor of N every N miliseconds.
how much pos will change ever N miliseconds?
Just it doesn't seem significant to ask on SO proper
user1182183
t = 0 and ur pwned
23:33
@KianMayne Would you not rather go to the right place then? :)
given that width is constant and t is constant
I know how to represent it as a series
but I need something much simpler
@StackedCrooked Is there even a XAML/WPF room?
I need a single value that I would use to move all previous values of "pos"
user1182183
I don't like divisions, especially when 0''s are possible
Single value of what?
23:35
@KarimA "ttotal grows by a constant factor of N every N miliseconds." basically describes an exponential growth
@KianMayne Probably not, but I think the C# room is closer to your problem domain than the C++ room.
So express ttotal in terms of t and see what you can do with that.
single value that I would multiply pos by after every "frame" which happens every N miliseconds.
What for?
If t and width are constant, then it grows by 1/ttotal.
For you alone.
23:37
Or rather, gets smaller.
user1182183
hm, I got talkactive badge, where to see my starred posts? ; d
yeah - I think that I've figured out this formula.
It's not really rocket science.
yeah - I don't know why I was complicating it so much.
:)
I'm tired. Later all.
23:39
Has anyone here read Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs? Would you recommend it?
I read 1/4th of TOC and got bored.
What, you stopped reading the freakin TOC!?
It's a book about Scheme. Do you really want to read a book about Scheme?
Also, it's available online, I think.
At least used to be.
It still is. But I have a paper copy.
Oh wait, I've even clicked on the first chapter.
I don't think I've read that, though.
:words:
Seriously, programming books are boring.
23:42
But it's not really about Scheme, is it? That language is just used to illustrate the common principles.
Go read a Discworld.
Perhaps I should. I only read "The science of Discworld". I got the wrong book apparently. But it was still interesting.
Go interfaces are similar to C++ policy classes it seems.
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wombat y u only make some xpaths work?
my language would all be statically duck typed
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23:58
I love how clean you can express certain things with C++'s iterators:
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A: Templates and higher-order kinds in C++

XeoHere's a better solution that doesn't require any weird wrappers that disable argument deduction and have the client specify them, just clean and simple SFINAE that works in C++03: #include <type_traits> // or Boost equivalent // a little helper struct to keep the // function as clutter-...


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