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01:14
By now I am pretty sure there is a bot randomly upvote (already heavily upvoted) questions and answers
user3956566
02:11
@TelKitty I have followed you!!! lolol
lolol ... and foal pic would follow you? :p
this place is almost like a desert, we need ... more people, especially women
user3956566
well I need to desensitise the room to the foal spam.... cough
user3956566
hey I am a genderless, photoless avatar - controlled by a woman at a keyboard lol
and I am a turtle ...
user3956566
02:14
that's not a foal, that's an adult horse!
user3956566
this is my heavily pregnant mare for all the poor suffering chatroom members who will be subjected to pics of her foal
user3956566
@TelKitty heheheh I saw that edit... and you do not look or behave like a turtle, what's going on there telK?
turtle is a decoy of course
also, do you know much about pharmaceutical goods?
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@TelKitty I did study medical science in a previous life and took an interest in neuroscience and pharmacology. I also worked in a hospital. so within those bounds
02:16
@user3956566 remember this?
user3956566
@TelKitty turtle decoy writes this in black book
user3956566
@TelKitty hilarious - love it
user3956566
psst we're showing our age (note how I dragged you in with me?)
@user3956566 so if I am looking at this what is DPMQ and Max safety net?
@user3956566 like wine and cheese
user3956566
"dispensed price for maximum quantity"
02:20
yeah but what is it? where is it applied to?
user3956566
do you know what a safety net is?
the maximum amount government pays ... is it?
user3956566
the gov has protection for people, if they're medications reach a limit, the cost of med after that is severly reduced
user3956566
@TelKitty how much is charged for dispensing the item. charged to the patient actual cost of medicine
@user3956566 so it's the maximum government subsidize?
user3956566
02:22
@TelKitty no amount the pharmacy will charge the patient
Oo, think I got it
Thanks
user3956566
nw. I need to study now... sigh
When is the next exam/assignment due?
user3956566
Next Sunday ass. MC quiz couple of weeks. exams 3.5 weeks and it's over!!!!!
02:40
good to know :)
 
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06:50
why do we have a mod with a generic name and avatar
@user3956566 and a smurf
Ven
Ven
07:02
@LucDanton Perl 6 doesn't really have type aliases. Maybe a constant \foo = G but class :: { make-actions { ... } } could work...
@BartekBanachewicz Complicated ... something about SE staff trying very hard to make all the regulars leave and the whole site to collapse, unintentionally of course.
@Puppy woah. does that mean you're not coding anymore?
Ven
Ven
@LucDanton I mean, this works
user3956566
07:49
@BartekBanachewicz a smuuuurf?
user3956566
@BartekBanachewicz I've decided to go generic, much like some people go vegetarian - no offence intended to vegetarians!
user3956566
too scared to speak...
user3956566
@TelKitty how's the report going?
almost done, tidying up and ready to send
user3956566
good
user3956566
07:57
we're putting up a small temporary fence tomorrow to split my feeding paddock up
my chooks are always hungry
user3956566
I'm getting another large bale of hay for Tuppence to gorge on
they eat like pigs
user3956566
yep I was wondering if they should come and live with us
user3956566
as long as they don't attack me
07:58
they are nice and friendly :p
user3956566
do you still want to rehome them?
probably
user3956566
well I figure, seeing they
user3956566
are roosters, they might be capable of surviving quite well
I tame them everyday by hugging them and pat them >_<
user3956566
08:00
@TelKitty why don't we create out own chatroom?
user3956566
Tel and Y's chook and foal chatroom
we could
pharma sisters :p
@user3956566 I thought "vegetarian" was a slur word :P
@user3956566 that's how we call people who are blue
user3956566
or... we can continue to haunt other chatrooms and generally annoy people with out discussion about farm animals
some people here like fluffs
user3956566
08:02
@BartekBanachewicz well... I'm not from the US, can I still take the 5th?
user3956566
@TelKitty lololol I knew you'd think of something funny
user3956566
@BartekBanachewicz I mean no harm, I come in pieces
user3956566
hm are we under international or US or our own country's or all of the above laws in this chatroom?
user3956566
does this mean we are more regulated or have more loopholes? (I'm sure it's not the latter(
user3956566
08:11
@TelKitty is that in R?
N R
yes R council
user3956566
yep
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I'm impressed
nwp
nwp
After the success of Visual C#, Visual C++, Visual Basic and Visual J# I link you ... Visual Go!
(the first person to point out that it has nothing to do with go wins an internet cookie)
I am a Jacquline of all trades, master of none.
user3956566
08:13
well insulated. I love insulating walls
user3956566
simple easy way to do plumbing
user3956566
@TelKitty what did you use on the kitchen bench tops and floors?
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Q: How to choose laminate flooring

TelKittyWhat should I be looking for when I choose laminate flooring? I am building a smallish house, I plan to put in laminate flooring in it. But I heard some horror stories about how some laminate flooring started peeling after a couple of months use. I am looking for something durable for it's a ren...

I followed advice and used bamboo, IT WAS WRONG!!! Bamboo flooring is very easily scratched.
you can scratch it with finger nail
user3956566
@TelKitty oh .. my experience with laminated floating flooring, is they cannot tolerate any moisture and swell easily
wood benchtop from bunnings
user3956566
08:21
how long from construction start to fin
user3956566
I take it was longer than 7 minutes
Can a room owner please tidy up the off topic spam from @user3956566
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the last thing we need is less messages in this room
it's almost dead
user3956566
lolol
user3956566
and it's starred!!
08:23
it's the lounge, I think you understand
It's a mystery why this room is dead
I mean, I can't work out why so many people left when the main reason they were here was outlawed
@thecoshman not really - it's a great effort by both the lounge and SE staff
nwp
nwp
@user3956566 Time to do your mod duty and enforce self-moderation to create a welcoming environment by deleting the room.
Fuck me, is my sarcasm so subtle?
in case you think you were not at fault, I know I was
08:27
Bitch please, I'm flawless
user3956566
@thecoshman yes, cos I don't know you... and well yeh that's the biggest problem with online communals.. we can't see if people are joking
a flawless pirate
user3956566
well I'm supposed to be writing a small paper on cryptographic techniques, I think I might change it to something else... it's too broad...
nwp
nwp
@user3956566 Welcome
@user3956566 I could give you the crap word too if you want
user3956566
08:31
@thecoshman I nearly got whooped on MSE for posting that chat room should be able to keep their culture and the way to do so was not get flagged. I don't know if that makes sense?
@thecoshman she is not one of those police
did discord pay you to kill this room? @thecoshman or you doing it for free
working so hard so someone else can profit
must be wise
also ... dinner time
user3956566
waffles
@user3956566 Kinda. But I think the main issue is that US (who have say over SE ideals) and EU (who where the bulk here) people differing ideas out what's 'ok' for normal conversation
@user3956566 That's comical
@TelKitty smurf is a smurf
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waffles
@TelKitty If being ourselves is so bad, then fuck it
user3956566
08:34
:p
nwp
nwp
@user3956566 flagged for foul language
By a mod even. Tsk tsk.
user3956566
@thecoshman that's how I feel. Life is short. I spend more time with horses than humans. The exchange is more authentic.
@user3956566 giggidy
user3956566
@nwp but it was in a foreign language and no one could understand it!!!!! :p
nwp
nwp
@TelKitty It's the room/people/culture that matters. The chat client is easily replaceable.
08:36
@user3956566 Apparently it's still too much for the precious little flowers to comprehend
user3956566
ok catch ya'll later. If you can cope with horse pics every couple of days. I'm your wo-man, I'll stay
@user3956566 oh, compulsory 'tits or gtfo' hope you understand, can't let traditions die
@user3956566 que?
user3956566
gtfo ? don't make me google I'm lazy
@user3956566 Get The Fuck Out
user3956566
@thecoshman ok I will then...
08:38
How bloody young are you? I thought SO was meant to be 16+ :P
user3956566
hahahahaha I know you were translating
user3956566
in fact any word to the o word
user3956566
now I'm going to eat!!!! later gator
this has been a pretty weird exchange
You can tell me, I've been drowning in pickled herring this whole time
08:46
so how's your motorbike quest going
Passed theory test (just)
oh congrats
so what are the next steps?
But I'm a bit confused by the form, it mentions about needing my previous learner permit... but like, I have the full licence
I've actually started looking for a 125cc bike recently :)
Oh, and I'm going to go in for full A :D
08:51
oh, cool
@thecoshman well don't you need some mandatory practice before the test?
here you can't practice on your own anyway, it must be with an instructor
I need to apply for my learner permit for A, add a learner category to existing licence
but the application form is on about having my latest learner permit, or have it declared lost...
I've sent them an email to ask about it
But yeah, in theory I just need to go into a center to get the learner permit for A, then book my IBT sessions and I'm good to tear up the streets :D
which is pretty scary when you think about it but hey :P
08:56
here a lot of people just don't bother with a licence at all so I guess at least you'll have the IBT
Ha yeah
@thecoshman so are you gonna buy a bike to learn on by then?
Not buying one isn't really an option :P
Plus, I think I'll look to move to a cheaper location once I have the bike
Throwhammer, remote code exec using rowhammer via fast packet patterns. https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2018/05/attackers-trigger-rowhammer-bit-flips-by-sending-network-packets-over-a-lan/
/cc @Mysticial Packets over a LAN are all it takes to trigger serious Rowhammer bit flips
09:15
@thecoshman so have you decided on a model already?
@BartekBanachewicz not really
It'll probably be driven by what's on offer in a few local shops I feel happy to buy from :P
@thecoshman that'll still leave you with a lot I guess
but sure, go ahead and at least sit on as many as you can
nothing beats actually trying one out
It seems mad though that I could do a day or two of training for the IBT, then go to a shop and be like, let my try out this bike plz
well the shop needs to be mad enough to let you do that :D
 
3 hours later…
11:56
@Ven indeed! together with your role suggestion, perhaps something like this; unfortunately I’m not super happy with it since the grammar now starts at top without the mixin and perhaps more concerningly the substitution seems to go awry
Ven
Ven
@LucDanton Yeah it's less than nice
I think I’d flip it: leave the grammar starting at TOP, have the role inject a TOP-WITH-ACTIONS or something like that
a subrule already has you specifying the regex anywho
Hallo.
How's everyone today?
Ven
Ven
@LucDanton you can do that, though you might have to manually compose the grammar.
how come?
Ven
Ven
12:10
@LucDanton the rules of gravity, probably
13:03
> I'm not a mod but everyday I have to vote close at least one question. There's always someone asking about NullReferenceExceptions in C#. They already have a debugger in their hands, please use it first. And these weren't beginners, these were actual "professionals".
> This is where it starts - with YOU thinking that xyz has already been answered. Add to this 100 other mods and suddenly you have nazi camp 2.0. WTF
Ven
Ven
> Stack Overflow’s horribleness is almost a meme at this point. We all know it, hate it, and use it.
I agree with that but i'm 100% sure it's for different reasons as the author
> I use SO for the answers. I don't use SO for the terrorist mods there.
Ven
Ven
> to make this “Hitler” of websites slightly more sufferable
holy shit people are stupid
obviously medium's google login is broken and loops.
13:43
@Ven FB is way worse though
Ven
Ven
@SombreroChicken cool
@Ven It's hot today
LOL, so my meta profile has been finally annihilated
also still struggling with foreign characters on my own private mail server
so ... thunderbird vs outlook, which one is better?
@Ven s/Stack Overflow/Medium/
Ven
Ven
@BartekBanachewicz Medium
14:02
Maybe I don't use it as much, but it always seemed pretty relaxed to me.
@FĂ©lixGagnon-Grenier who's yvette
Ven
Ven
Ivette
user395656
also SO moderator
right
i have no idea who she is
heh
if you've managed to dodge all the hype on meta in the last weeks, please tell me how you do it
14:06
take a holiday
easy
there is always sunshine some where
I should definitely do that
@FélixGagnon-Grenier Just don't check meta!
@FĂ©lixGagnon-Grenier what hype on meta? the thing where we're being nicer now?
it's... hard. I've stopped smoking all right, but meta is a whole other beast
@BartekBanachewicz yeah that.
right
so just be nicer maybe
Ven
Ven
14:08
fuck no
I think it's easier to move to somewhere else than be nicer
also meta has always been a drama house
plenty of holes to fill in my own life to worry about internet
like currently having problem setting up thunderbird
14:59
I have been thinking this for a while, I mean ... what if the be nicer policy is to usher people into using private teams?
what if this whole meta drama is to divert attention
Hi Fred. How are you lately?
@JerryCoffin Heartburn
@fredoverflow Of the literal kind or the metaSO kind?
But Clopad is coming along great, it now has auto-paren-closing :)
@fredoverflow So it automatically clojes your open parens?
16:01
@JerryCoffin The literal one, acid reflux :(
@fredoverflow Oh, ouch.
@JerryCoffin It automatically closes ( and [ and { and "
Wait, was "clojes" a pun? :)
@fredoverflow This is for "Clojure", right?
@JerryCoffin Yes, Clopad = Clojure + Notepad
@fredoverflow So obviously parens (and braces, brackets, quotes) can be open or "clojed"... :-)
16:04
It only auto-clojes before whitespace and other clojers, btw: github.com/fredoverflow/clopad/commit/…
@Borgleader nice!
16:25
@Mysticial How is that nice? everything is broken D:
@Borgleader Seems to be restricted to machines on 10G (or I suppose 100G) networks with RDMA network adapters. That can affect quite a bit of stuff for datacenters, HPC, etc., but not your typical home machine...
@JerryCoffin Ok so... the whole internet then ;)
@Borgleader Not even close. There are lots of sites on relatively low-end machines that aren't even close to being affected.
 
1 hour later…
17:36
good job
I feel like I'm missing something there...
17:58
in Tavern on the Meta on Meta Stack Exchange Chat, 19 mins ago, by NobodyNada
Seems like https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/safetysat.png is bad, while https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/safetysat_2x.png works
 
2 hours later…
20:17
private static int nonNegative(int o) {
    return o < 0 ? 0 : o;
}
Variable naming is important!
20:58
#include <iostream>

int main()
{
    std::cout << sizeof(0) << sizeof("0") << '\n';
}
21:47
@fredoverflow Most people advise against using o (upper or lower case) or l (lower case "L") by itself as a name of a variable (or function, etc.)
But as a rule, 'O' is worse than o (looks more like a zero). Depends on the font though--with a dot or slash in the 0, they're easier to distinguish.
Worst I've dealt with along this like was with Control Data's Fortran compiler, which used a line editor, so each line was preceded by a line number (which the compiler ignored). One line started with something like: C000100, but in the font used by the terminal I had, the C and 0 were the same width and more or less kemmed together. The problem that arose was that Fortran treats a leading C as signifying a comment, and it decided this qualified, so it ignored the rest of the line.
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22:36
@JerryCoffin I thought the line numbers didn't count?
23:34
@fredoverflow Line numbers didn't--but it was sort of dual mode. It apparently looked for a digit in column 1, and if it saw that, it assumed it started with a line number, and ignored everything up to the first space. Lacking that, however, it apparently treated it as normal Fortran (no line number), for which a "C" in column 1 means the line is a comment.

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