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I may not tbe the one that provided the answer, but the person that did explicitly wrote the answer as-was, with C++"11" content and a "bugfix" comment for C++03
@Xeo I see.
You can't do a positional number system with only one symbol.
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@Neil No. Without specific radix, everyone will just assume base 10. (At least unless they are Inca or whatever people used funny numbering schemes.)
@sbi Base ten, not 10
Assuming base "10" is plain useless
@sbi We only use base ten because we have ten fingers
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16:00
@Cicada It isn't. Without specific radix, everyone will just assume base 10.
@Xeo: I may have been wrong, but from my point of view, you just reverted my edit because you disagreed on the unrelated boost::lexical_cast thing.
@Neil irrelevant
You can make a number system with only one symbol (like counting with your fingers?), but that's not the same kind of system as what you commonly know as "base 2".
@MooingDuck Irrelevant to what?
@sbi If you write ten you are being explicit on the value. With 10, you're not giving any info
16:01
@Cicada en.wikipedia.org/wiki/… "There is no explicit symbol representing zero in unary as there is in other traditional bases, so unary is a bijective numeration system with a single digit." I guess that means it's valid
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@sbi Not everyone. Cicada won't.
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@Neil So?
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@ereOn Oh, no, the lexical_cast thing is an entirely different topic. That's why I even made that a new comment.
@Cicada Only if you previously agreed that we're using English number names :P
@MooingDuck Yeah of course. I'm always right
@RMartinhoFernandes +1 that
16:02
@sbi Well that is why base ten is the predominant base used on the planet.
It's not like the ancients of old got together and decided on a standard base.
@Xeo: My bad then. My apologies.
@MooingDuck But in that system 1 is not a "radix".
@Cicada Ah, base 1 is a valid base, but it is not a Positional systems
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@sbi I wonder, maybe penises are a currency in France?
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16:03
@Neil Yeah, we all know that. So?
@sbi At least I'm not as much endangered of extinction as you are
@Fanael: In some streets, they are.
@MooingDuck Right
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@Cicada Why? Do you have more kids than even me?
16:04
@sbi My species represents around 7 billion individuals. You gorillas are lazy asses eating all day and nearly disappearing
@sbi So that's what everyone assumes. Though that's not unequivocal
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@Neil But what bearing does this have on my argument that, absent of an explicitly mentioned base, everyone will assume decimal?
@sbi decimal is not 10
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@Cicada You call that "disappearing", huh? Actually it's bloody killing.
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Who will assume decimal?
16:05
@Cicada yes it is, "deci" means "ten"
@MooingDuck and 10 is not ten
It only is ten in base ten
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@Cicada Your species dies every end of summer
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Do you get my (nitpicky) point
@Cicada he didn't say 10, he said decimal.
16:06
@MooingDuck That's what I said!
@Cicada yes
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@Cicada Of course we did. We made the same nitpicky points when we were 20. We got over this, though, since then.
@sbi When you were wat (twenty, I assume?)
@sbi My point was that unless otherwise specified, a number is meaningless as it could be potentially many values when varying the radix, making the interpretation of one's age posted here similar to the problem of substantialism
Things are not what they seem. Ooooo..
@Neil You mean, a string of symbols is meaningless on its own.
One number is one value. Not many.
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16:08
@Neil My point is that, among the earthly mammals that can deal with numbers, unless otherwise specified, a number is decimal.
@RMartinhoFernandes Ah, so my understanding of "number" was correct after all!?
For all practical purposes, a number is its value in base 10. Though, like anything in the english language, it's subject to interpretation. That was my point.
You just were incorrect in excluding age.
@Neil Not in base 10 lol. In base ten
Base ten is a representation.
16:09
@Cicada Semantics.
It's pretty hot here. I wonder why the architect of my room put the fridge just in front of the window
So the sun strikes exactly on the fridge
Therefore heating it
How stupid
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@Cicada The only reason you need to ask is because you're a bloody insect with six legs and no toes and fingers. For the rest of us mammals (or those created by us mammals), decimal is implicit.
@Cicada tinfoil
@Cicada You don't leave the door of the fridge open to cool the room, do you?
16:11
@sbi And wings.
Presumably, aliens with 4 fingers will base all their mathematics in base FOUR
@sbi Bloody insects will rule the world. Just look at how superior we are in all aspects
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@RMartinhoFernandes And antennae. So?
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@Cicada So superior that you die when summer ends?
(Yes, I love beating that point to death.)
@sbi So she can fly of her own accord.
16:11
@Neil No need to say "four" there because 4 has a value on its own since it's a digit
Which is pretty damn cool.
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@Cicada Bloody insects and their kin once ruled the world. They failed to keep that state.
@Cicada No, it doesn't.
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@Neil According to this, the Incas were aliens.
A digit is a symbol.
15 mins ago, by R. Martinho Fernandes
@MooingDuck What about my carefully crafted number system where the numeral 2 is used to represent the number seventeen?
16:12
@Cicada I just felt like writing four, is that okay? Huh?! *cries*
@Xeo Yeah? That means we have a must faster evolution rates than filthy humans with their 25-years generations
Can we nitpick on why singleton actually is the only good oo-pattern out there?
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@Cicada 25 years? What area in France are you living in?
@sbi Not every culture adopted this practice, but most did.
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@Cicada No, you learn nothing and don't evolve. Even 10 generations later, you'll still die at the end of summer.
@sbi What's wrong with it?
16:14
@sbi It's just an average. People have their kids on average around 25. Some sooner some later
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@Neil Actually almost no culture adopted the practice of basing their numbering system on 4.
@Xeo Evolutionnary speaking we do learn stuff
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abcdzzzeee
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Damn it.
@sbi I meant base ten, not base 4, four, 2^2.
16:14
lol
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@RMartinhoFernandes Nothing is wrong, I am just amazed. I always feel like the average age for women to have their first child is rapidly approaching 45 here in Germany. ICBWT.
I come back from lunch and feel myself forces to read every one of the 327 messages I have missed. This room's unproductive draw is not good for me.
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@sbi Ow. That's... late.
@sbi I have a friend slightly older than me (22) who already has a kid
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@RMartinhoFernandes It's also a bit exaggerated.
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@Cicada Proof by anecdote?
By 45 their eggs are all dried up :(
@sbi What do you mean?
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Freetype y u suck
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Or it is the font?
16:17
(She's the exception, though)
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@Pubby Use motion lotion. :-/
@Cicada you can't prove a general concept by showing one example that works.
@Cicada You tried to prove something about the average by providing one data point.
@Cicada So anti-anecdotal proof.
@RMartinhoFernandes No I was just giving an extreme
16:17
@Pubby Humans have ways around that.
The meatbags are extremely resilient.
Adoption!
@Pubby I don't think that's right
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@Cicada FWIW, I know a woman who was around 45 when she had her first child. And I know one of that age who is still looking for a father for a child to have.
That joke will never work right as I want it.
@RMartinhoFernandes Still doesn't get around the higher chances of birth defects at that age
16:19
What I meant is that women here tend to have their first child around 25 (it's slowly moving towards 30). I have no proof for that.
@Pubby They have ways around that too!
You can rent wombs.
@sbi You can if you require a counter-example
Remember we have the highest child/woman ratio of europe
@Cicada babycenter.com/… " In 1970 the average age of a first-time mother was about 21. In 2008 the average age was 25.1. " (in USA)
Renting a womb is OK but prostitution isn't?
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16:20
It is the font, damn.
@Pubby Who said that?
The government!
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@RMartinhoFernandes Pubby did. Can't you see?
@MooingDuck Yeah USA.
I am the law!
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16:20
@Pubby My government didn't.
Chart of ages of first birth by country: nationmaster.com/graph/…
With all the faded italian flags around here, one would almost think they were in Ireland.
Not really, but you know what I mean.
Ireland? How do you know it's not Côte d'Ivoire?
Oh people who copy my answers and get more upvotes, I hate you
Please die (I know you will)
@Pubby Because I'm in Italy, that's why.
16:24
I just realized that renting a womb != knocking up a bimbo instead of your wife and that there's science involved. I should know better.
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Well, this shows the fertility rate (number of women out of 1000 of a specific age who give birth to a living baby) for Germany.
You thought that?
lol
@RMartinhoFernandes How is babby made?
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16:26
@RMartinhoFernandes He's a Merkin.
@Pubby See how make cheese pasta? Well baby not same
@sbi whoa, that's high
^ The isDayOfWeek thing is at the end of section 2.5
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@MooingDuck You mean the tip of the bell curve is "high" on the age axis? Or we have a high birth rate? If the latter, something is wrong. I think Germany has the lowest in all of Europe.
16:28
According to wikipedia, this is a naked egg:
I suppose it counts as porn. Somehow.
@RMartinhoFernandes Rule #34
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@Neil What I always wanted to ask: Is Rule #34 self-referential?
@sbi high average
@sbi obviously
@sbi Of course.
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@MooingDuck Sigh. High average age or birth rate? (Really, is that so hard?)
16:31
@sbi High
He is high on what?
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@Cicada You are letting me down, girl.
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@RMartinhoFernandes You're all high on high.
He's in his mid-life crisis
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16:33
@Cicada He is a Mooing Duck, FFS! Not even mooing ducks have a midlife crisis.
I was talking about you.
@sbi I'm at work, only vaguely following this conversation. High average age.
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@MooingDuck Ah, Ok. Feels relieved.
@MooingDuck Stop working and pay attention, dammit!
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room topic changed to Lounge<C++>: Get your unproductivity_ _from_ _here! [c++] [c++11] [c++-faq]
Seems more fitting that way.
16:35
er, this sentance sounds funny to me: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UTF-7 "On the other hand, UTF-8 combined with quoted-printable produces a very size-inefficient format requiring 6–9 bytes for non-ASCII characters from the BMP and 12 bytes for characters outside the BMP." I assume "quoted-printable" is key here and something I need to look up?
@MooingDuck You're at work, working on your hobby project and not paying attention to chat?
I won't comment further.
Quoted-printable, or QP encoding, is an encoding using printable ASCII characters (i.e. alphanumeric and the equals sign "=") to transmit 8-bit data over a 7-bit data path or, generally, over a medium which is not 8-bit clean. It is defined as a MIME content transfer encoding for use in e-mail. QP works by using the equals sign "=" as an escape character. It also limits line length to 76, as some software has limits on line length. Introduction MIME defines mechanisms for sending other kinds of information in e-mail, including text in languages other than English, using character encoding...
I need sleep. I just read "Point-Based Visualization of Meatballs on a GPU".
In this chapter we present a technique for rendering meatballs on state-of-the-art graphics processors at interactive rates.
@RMartinhoFernandes it's so braindead
...
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A: Can't include the <string> header

Cheers and hth. - Alfwrite std::string, not just string.

^ that too
Hurray, got my free Webstorm license.
cong ratz!
is that a game?
a server?
@CheersandhthAlf There's a using namespace std; there. Are you sure that's the issue?
16:41
It's an IDE for JavaScript applications :D
I use it for developing a Google Chrome plugin.
How did you get a free license?
@RMartinhoFernandes when compiler can't resolve plain string, write std::string
You can apply for a free license if it's an open source project. Which it is.
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16:42
Jun 20 '11 at 15:52, by Cat Plus Plus
> If we had e fingers on each hand, our numbering system would have been a lot more natural.
Took me a while to dig this out, @Neil.
@StackedCrooked Ah, that's cool.
e-fingers are awesome.
The whole process took several months though.
so much of nature produces the fibonacci sequence, it would have been nice to have that in the human body also
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Oops.
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@sbi Right.
16:45
@sbi I'm awed.
^ repost, just because it's so smart
I didn't expect you to dig such an old thing.
@RMartinhoFernandes Maybe he's learned an archivist's trick or two from you. You're amazingly fast in digging up old, relevant quotes from the chat. It is a mystery...
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@RMartinhoFernandes Actually I remembered this. :-{
Chat search sucks.
I think it works best if you provide less keywords.
16:52
If you say something sucks, you just suck at using it.
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@RMartinhoFernandes It took you that long to find that out?
4 mins ago, by Cheers and hth. - Alf
@RMartinhoFernandes Maybe he's learned an archivist's trick or two from you. You're amazingly fast in digging up old, relevant quotes from the chat. It is a mystery...
@RadekdaknokSlupik I can use it effectively despite the suckiness :P
@sbi I can post quotes of me saying it long ago :P
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Q: Chat search fails to load page 2

R. Martinho FernandesI can't seem to be able to load page 2 of some chat searches. For example this one: http://chat.stackoverflow.com/search?q=chat+search+sucks&user=46642&room=10. I just get the cat workin on mah problemz. With some different searches I can load page 2. This one http://chat.stackoverflow.c...

@RMartinhoFernandes The mouse in that picture isn't even connected to the machine, why is he holding it?
@RadekdaknokSlupik Because it's a cat.
Duh.
lol stupid cats
16:57
Alternatively, it is connected to another machine, and the laptop is remote desktoping to it or something.
So he uses the mouse directly, but remote desktops the keyboard.
Very high-tech. And stupid.
Ain't this a case of most vexing parse?
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Q: Why copy constructor not getting called in this case

Kundan KumarSay, I have a class A Now when I am doing A a(A()); what exactly happens?

A a{A{}} ftw.
although there are different opinions
SO just CAPTCHAed me. I'm sad.
@RadekdaknokSlupik A a{}?
16:59
@RMartinhoFernandes So CAPTCHAs don't work?

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