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16:00
@KodeSeeker Add dependencies through Project -> Properties -> Config. Properties -> Linker -> Input... That's one way.
user784668
Fuck you, English. Seriously, fuck you.
Additional dependencies, first one, edit it.
@Fanael Yeah.
also, make sure you have paths set up
@RMartinhoFernandes You want her to get drunk?
user784668
16:00
@EtiennedeMartel It's the second worst language EVER.
@Fanael I like it. It's quite "simple" (by that I mean logical and pretty flexible)
@Fanael Is that English as in the language, or as in the people?
@EtiennedeMartel What? Where did I say that?
user784668
@RMartinhoFernandes Language.
@RMartinhoFernandes "Get cracking".
@Cicada huh?
16:01
@DomagojPandža: did that , so do I have to place the lib file in some specific directory for that to work?
@KodeSeeker bit.ly/KX6biF
@Fanael ?
@thecoshman :|
@DeadMG IIRC you said you were going to fail your year
@Cicada Yeah?
VC++ Directories have to be filled in, specifically include and library directories
include takes your header files
16:01
@DeadMG Well so am I. I hope you're happy now.
and library takes your... Well.
@DeadMG So, final, as in, final destination.
@Cicada Not really.
@Neil I have no idea and don't care what a final destination is
@EtiennedeMartel I thought that meant getting drugged, not drunk.
@Cicada try working hard :P
16:02
@DomagojPandža: I get that, my doubt was should i place the downloaded lib file in a specific place ?
VS doesn't care where it goes, as long as you give it the path to get it.
@KodeSeeker No no, as long as the linker has the path he's happy
@RMartinhoFernandes Maybe. Although you might argue that alcohol is a drug.
@RMartinhoFernandes 'get cracking' means get working hard... well, that's the common meaning. I am sure some 'hip' kids say it when sniffing glue
@Cicada aww, look at you with fucks to give, so cute
@thecoshman Yes, I know that first meaning. That's why I used it after all.
16:04
@thecoshman what do you mean
What the heck does that mean?
Some cunt moved the Max Payne 3 release to 1st of June.
Sad me is sad.
@DomagojPandža My birthday date!
@Cicada you know the phrase "I don't give a fuck"?
@thecoshman No and I don't give a fuck
16:04
@DomagojPandža What? It’s already out here
@Cicada now you're getting it!
@DomagojPandža not like I'm going to buy it until it's in the bargain bin anyway
I prefer bullet time on the PC. :Đ
@thecoshman Well no, who am I giving fucks to? Henceforth
@Cicada There's that word again.
16:05
@Cicada what's his name with the linker problems. And stop trolling with 'henceforth' :P
@Cicada: I see , so I when I specify the additional dependecies, so I specify the entire path like 'C:\MyFolder\MyLib.lib'?
@KodeSeeker it can be a relative path too, AFAIK
see, I can give fucks too
@KodeSeeker Either a full path or a relative one. Doesn't matter as long as the linker gives enough fucks to find the lib
Alright, sniping time.
@Cicada "Either <this> or <that>", equally "Neither <this> nor <that>"
16:07
@Cicada and @thecoshman :thanks guys!
Cicada is a dudette. Or a freak in his mum's basement pretending to be a dudette.
@DomagojPandža Actually I have my own room in a student residence.
@Cicada ah, student life, was so simple back then
@DomagojPandža She's a studentette
16:09
he says having only graduated a year ago :P
Also my ISP is a French scientific provider. I has uberlow ping and 100 MB/s. I want to be a student all my life.
he says having to think real hard if it was only a year ago :P
100 MB/s as in byte?
Yes. Of course.
I hate Croatia.
16:10
@Cicada I might just hate you a little bit
@thecoshman Please, go on.
@Cicada as in, 800Mb/s as in, nearly faster then 'high speed' LAN connections
Should I try it or not?
@Cicada mostly jelly
Tony is late.
16:10
@RadekdaknokSlupik try it
@thecoshman Yes. That's right. You're getting it.
@RadekdaknokSlupik definitely try it :D
But my two HD6990s make up for a shitty internet connection (20 mbit). And I further appease my insecurities with three large LED displays.
@RadekdaknokSlupik They're paying you?
16:11
@thecoshman me haz no credit card. :(
@Cicada yeah, I'm jelly
@RMartinhoFernandes I entered a negative amount of copies here. :P
Probably doesn't work.
@RadekdaknokSlupik not even a visa?
16:12
@RadekdaknokSlupik oh, well use one of those :P
Reminds me of the old ebay (or amazon?) times where you could enter 0.1 as quantity.
You can order down to -1000 copies!
Saw that in a SO answer.
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Aye
16:13
Credit cards give money to people who have no money in order to take money from them.
@Cicada I want to see this, speed test
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I remember that one
@RadekdaknokSlupik Are you sure it's not just a scam to get your credit card details?
@RMartinhoFernandes I'm sure of it. That company wouldn't do that.
It's just a bug in the JavaScript code so that it lets you enter a negative amount.
Nobody write in the chatroom! She needs optimal speeds!
Okay, you can talk again.
16:15
With such an internet connection, usually there aren't many servers capable (or willing) to dispense maximum output.
@Neil at 800Mb, I don't think chat is going to make much of a difference :P besides, I believe it pulls messages
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Q: Exceptions across binary boundary

SämyI know, this question has been asked quite some times, however I can't find a solution for my problem. I have the following situation: A / \ / \ B <-- C A is a shared library which contains the class EException B and C link against A C is a shared library as well B dynamically loa...

Usually just research centers manage popping all out.
@thecoshman Well it tests upload and download I think, but you're right, there would be no difference really.
@DomagojPandža Or disk drives to write the stuff.
@thecoshman I'm behind a 10 MBps router so it's pretty slow. I just have to move to another room to have the 100 MBps one, though.
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Wtf, 2ms ping.. just how close is that test server to the ISP?
A few hundred kilometers
@Cicada ಠ_ಠ you lucky bitch
16:16
our research campus is currently building its own power plant
user784668
Connection speed masturbation instead of template masturbation. Great.
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And what an overwhelming upload, usually it isn't even 1/10th of DL
@thecoshman (there's even a room In gigabit but we're not supposed to access that one)
I don't care about upload speed. I don't seed anyway. I only leach.
@Xeo University networks often have quite a bit more … no ADSL, after all
16:17
@RadekdaknokSlupik you go to hell! you go to hell and die!
@Cicada That's in mega bits btw.
@Cicada a sly cable to your room :P
8 mins ago, by Domagoj Pandža
100 MB/s as in byte?
I'd post my speedtest results, but I'm still waiting for the page to load.
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16:18
@RMartinhoFernandes She said it was behind a 10mb router
@RadekdaknokSlupik Why? For most purposes it’s perfect
Yes. That's why I said
> I'm behind a 10 MBps router so it's pretty slow. I just have to move to another room to have the 100 MBps one, though.
@Neil no need then
Yes, but upload speed would be useful to those who'd like to actualize servers on their rigs (locally) for experimental purposes.
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2 mins ago, by Cicada
@thecoshman I'm behind a 10 MBps router so it's pretty slow. I just have to move to another room to have the 100 MBps one, though.
16:18
@Xeo And got 90+Mb/s?
@Cicada MB = Mega Bytes, Mb = Mega bit. MB != Mb
Don't be jelly. I mean, it's not a reason to be hatin' on me. Or is it.
@KonradRudolph Optical fibre is superior.
@Cicada yes it is... or is ti
16:19
@RadekdaknokSlupik Totally different hing
It's faster than /dev/null!
@thecoshman Yes that's exactly why I gave you the explanation ! Geh
^ example of "big" video, like 37 MiB. so i download it instead of viewing in browser. too slow connection
@KonradRudolph I suck at those things. :P
@RadekdaknokSlupik So, it's webscale?
16:20
Brb I'm gonna check if the 100 MB rooms are open
@RMartinhoFernandes Yes totally! You should use it or else your app is not web scale!
Cicada, will your ISP's infrastructure marry me?
@RadekdaknokSlupik It used to be the wave of the future. Now it's "meh."
@Cicada: Lol , sorry my bad then
(Prepare for jelly)
16:20
@RadekdaknokSlupik optical fibre is a physical medium. ADSL is a communication protocol
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@Cicada Out of jelly already
Okay.
Well, not optical fibre sucks.
Dark fiber for the win.
I need to download more bandwidth.
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But I have to say, @Cicada really seems to fit well in here.
16:22
My ISP sucks. It's evil and only cares about money.
@RadekdaknokSlupik cat6 cabling is (for the money) much better then fibre. Sure fibre can go faster, but considering you can get 1Gb over cheap as chips copper
I want XS4ALL.
I wish people wouldn't misuse the word "broadband". I don't have broadband here, I have baseband and it's rather spiffy thank you very much
@Xeo she know's all the internets
16:22
> Can I torrent RAM?
@thecoshman I don't care about money. I want bandwidth.
@RadekdaknokSlupik then buy your self a direct line into the back bone
@RadekdaknokSlupik you can get 10Gb/sec in most of the UK if you have money
I'm going to move to the UK anyway, so that's awesome!
lol I'm talking £10,000 per month
16:24
I have heard that the smallest internet connection was from somebody in Canada. He had 40Gb/s.
But that was a few years ago.
@RadekdaknokSlupik better yet, buy a truck load of HDD. The sheer volume of bytes will give you such an insane bandwidth. Though, it does suffer from latency a little bit
any way, bus time for me, at last ¬_¬
see y'all later
@RadekdaknokSlupik that sounds like infiniband or something
@awoodland I would say "What can you do with 10Gb/sec?" but I already know the answer to that question.
Download more porn in a shorter time interval.
16:26
They're closed :( Not surprising though because today is holiday. Must try tomorrow!
Yeah why is everybody free today? What's happening?
Today is holiday?
WTF is going on?
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Yes
In le France yes
Some religious thing
In le pays bas too.
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16:26
As was yesterday and the day before yesterday
Is it easter or something?
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Apperently it's called "Whitsun" in English
@RMartinhoFernandes you know holy ghost and such
@Neil run speedtests and post pictures in internet forums?
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16:27
@RadekdaknokSlupik Yeah, or that
@thecoshman FYI, my school even hosts a LAN (~ 350 players) every year. The bandwitdth is impressive.
France, when it's not surrendering to invaders, usually enjoys holidays all year long. :Đ
Oh, here's that préjugé again
@bamboon No idea what that is.
You're not entirely wrong though
16:28
For the majority of Christians, the Holy Spirit (prior English language usage: the Holy Ghost from Old English gast, “spirit”) is the third person of the Holy Trinity—Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, and is Almighty God. The Holy Spirit is seen by mainstream Christians as one person of the Triune God, who revealed his holy name YHWH ("I am who I am") to his people Israel, sent his eternally only-begotten Son Jesus to save them, and sent the Holy Spirit to sanctify and give life to his Church. The Triune God manifests as three divine persons (Greek hypostases), in one divine Being (Greek: ou...
Who are Christians?
From which planet are they?
Christus Prime?
Tide goes in, tide goes out. You can't explain that.
You know what I like about working with other people? They handle all the GUI development and I can be writing exclusively non-UI parts.
Talking about GUI, have you people seen GitHub for windows? That thing looks neat
Metro-style at its finest
I don't know why but I really find it impressive
@Cicada is it an app or what?
16:34
I started to irrationally hate Metro after Microsoft dropped the bomb on developers.
What's that thing?
@DomagojPandža That's the only rational attitude possible.
Metro was invented so that people can make icons using Microsoft Paint.
No. Metro is awesome.
I don't have to hire a graphics designer anymore.
16:36
Yeah, right.
(That was a joke.)
@KonradRudolph I wonder by the way (maybe this has already been asked), but what do you mainly develop in?
my cock is better designed than Metro
@Cicada: After I add the path of the external lib folder, do they appear in the 'External Dependencies' View?
@DeadMG The future of SO DeadMGs depends on it.
@RMartinhoFernandes The irony in that one was almost as big as DeadMG's cock. Consider expression studio. This thing's huge. And just for designers.
@KodeSeeker Let me check.
@DeadMG Oh, you keep fowl at home?
@Cicada: Sure thing.
@Cicada Depends. Most of my work at University (bachelor/master thesis, internships, projects) have been in C++, most of my money I’ve earned with C# …
Only if you pull it in your project with a header file, KodeSeeker
@RMartinhoFernandes in that case I think "foul" might be more apt
@Cicada I'm not sure I understand.
16:38
at the moment, Bash holds the title
@KonradRudolph Hm. I don't understand exactly?
GitHub for Windows sucks.
It tells me I got my password wrong.
Which is impossible.
Oh wait, I suck.
I got my username wrong.
@KodeSeeker Yes. Linker > Input > Additional dependencies
I thought you were going to say you have no password an it's SSH key authentication only
@Cicada What don’t you understand?
16:40
@awoodland That would be nice.
@KonradRudolph > most of my money I've earned with C#
@Cicada Not hard, no? ;) Of the projects I’ve done commercially, most of the programming was done with C#
It's paradoxical that C# and Java are easier to learn than C++. Yet you earn more money with the former languages.
@Cicada He found profit with .NET rather than native applications, which is quite usual on Windows.
@StackedCrooked That's exactly why you can earn more money with them, they allow extremely fast iteration and return on time invested. :Đ
@KonradRudolph Hm. Were those apps not bioinformatics-related? Or am I misunderstanding your current job
16:42
@StackedCrooked You don’t, in general
@Cicada My current job is a PhD student position. I’ve done other work before, and not all of it was related to bioinformatics
@KonradRudolph It's just my own experience when doing job hunting.
Do note, I'm talking about small developers, not companies.
@Cicada Okay thank you, the added lib does show up there, however lib does not show up in the Solution Explorer, is that expected/right?
.
GitHub for Windows sucks.
@awoodland Tough luck.
@RMartinhoFernandes No, Windows sucks. SSH? On Windows? Is there even a good integration?
16:46
> GitHub for Windows does not support multiple Git remotes and it will only work with the origin remote.
What a piece of shit.
@KonradRudolph I've been working fine with PuTTY so far.
@KodeSeeker Yes.
It's what the command-line clients of both git and hg use.
@RMartinhoFernandes But look at those fade-ins
@RMartinhoFernandes Exactly. Not integrated. On Linux, it’s easy, programs can just assume that SSH is there
16:46
@Cicada; Merci beaucoup :D
@KodeSeeker De rien.
Wait. Windows doesn't ship with an SSH client?
Windows is a joke.
@KonradRudolph I don't understand. If you don't install SSH, you don't have SSH.
@RadekdaknokSlupik It's probably for the best.
Well at least Windows has a decent task bar. I know no other OS with that.
lol task bar, good times.
16:48
Windows has the most natural user experience. The developer experience on the other hand is pure and utter, legacy infested shit.
when I press alt-f2 in windows an type xterm it doesn't work though. I wish they'd fix that first
LPVOID
What the fuck? We are 64-bit in 2012., not 16-bit.
@DomagojPandža I don't entirely agree. I fin the Win32 API much, much cleaner than its POSIX counter part.
Also MS tends to hug backwards compatibility quite a lot
So yeah
LPVOID
Yeah but why all caps? And why is it a macro and not a typedef?
It's riddled with legacy stuff and that's not the way to go
16:49
@KonradRudolph AFAIK, PuTTY is the de facto SSH client for Windows. GitHub for Windows could assume I have it installed (or throw up if I didn') if I ask it to push to an ssh:// repo.
You need to support it, but throw it on the back burner.
it was a macro for use on compilers which did not actually support void*.
really? the win32 API is full of calls with ridiculously large numbers of arguments t
when void was properly Standardized and supported, then it became void* as proper.
@awoodland And full of calls with actual names
16:50
@DeadMG think it was ANSI C89 that started it
Win32 naming conventions are so much more readable than posix
@RMartinhoFernandes It is installed. Period.
GetFileInformation actually gets file information
whereas stat? creat? the fuck are those?
^ this
16:51
@RMartinhoFernandes But does it integrate in the system? I.e. is there a mechanism for other applications to use it without manual configuration etc?
stat(2) is just like stat(1) obviously :)
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@DeadMG I love the quote on creat
If you need to deal with the POSIX API, you're doing it wrong.
Use a cross-platform library that abstracts it away.
boost::asio, boost::filesystem
16:53
Boost. What a worthless pile of this was censored.
You can say many things about Apple, but their development experience is top notch. Modern, richly documented, annual developer conventions discussing platform best practices and new additions.
ehm… boost is awesome. Okay wait boost is a piece of shit because it has no move semantics.
@KonradRudolph I didn't do any kind of manual configuration, other than picking which client I'd like to use (the git installer lets you pick between putty and some openssh port thing).
And Microsoft... Well... As Mr. Steve B. would put it:
Developers, Developers, developers, developers.
@RadekdaknokSlupik Is that supposed to make me react
16:54
DEVELOPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERS.
I run pageant at boot, load my keys, and then it's bliss.
Just like on Linux.
Win8: developers can go fuck themselves
Unless you're doing cute, metro-style apps
Apple: developers don't need C++11 lambdas.
@RMartinhoFernandes Well, at least … on Linux you don’t even need to do that but fair enough. Time for a feature request to GitHub on Windows, no?
lambdas are experimental stuff
16:55
@DomagojPandža Right, Microsoft totally doesn't have that.
Xcode y u no update available for newest clang.
@Cicada they are already implemented in clang and they work great in 3.1.
@RadekdaknokSlupik Thank you for not getting the irony at all
They only make clang 3.0 segfault.
@KonradRudolph I'll take a note and do so when I get finish work.
@Cicada still don't get it.
16:56
(Though lambdas in GCC are uh, bugged to say the least)
Oh GCC. I don't care about GCC.
@Cicada Which GCC?
4.6 last time I tried
Filed a bug report so it should be fixed by now I guess
(Basically a lambda was not correctly capturing arguments)
I want to write a web app.
@RMartinhoFernandes Microsoft, modern? Have a look at the API.
All caps make me puke. Way too much legacy, way too much addressing that some parts "are no longer used".
16:58
If I want to say, create a new language, any reason why I would want to not use LLVM ?
@Cicada BSD license.
I'm talking native applications, not .NET, of course.
If you are an asshole like rms who wants GNU software.
@DomagojPandža They don't cover that in conferences.
@DomagojPandža Well what would you expect? "Look, here's a new version of X. Btw, it breaks all existing binaries."
16:59
What has X got to do with this?
X as in "anything"
Not X server
@Cicada It doesn't have to break them, it can still retain legacy binaries without looking like its from 1995.
@RadekdaknokSlupik you could still GPL a LLVM plugin couldn't you?

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