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12:28 AM
Holy shit, the 8-core Skylake X and the motherboard I was originally looking at sold out of preorders.
 
That good of a deal huh?
 
I'm not getting the 8-core anymore since the 10-core has the good AVX512.
And I do have a backup motherboard that will probably RGB sync with the video card I'm looking at.
Gigabyte has had problems with Linux support in the past. I'm hoping it won't happen again this time.
I'm gonna shut up and place my order now before shit flies the shelf before they even stock.
 
@Mysticial Come on. You know you want the 18-core!
 
@JerryCoffin Doesn't exist yet. I'll think about it again in October when they do. And if I do it, I'll also be looking at full RGB memory as well.
 
By the time I upgrade, I'll had had this CPU for about 6 years.
I'm hope I'll notice the difference
 
12:35 AM
Ordered.
The hardest part of this build is to find a video card with RGB lighting that is shorter than 9 inches.
 
@Mysticial 'twill be interesting to hear how it does for semi-normal tasks (e.g., compiling) vs. the Ryzen. Can we presume you'll have a TreadRipper as soon as they become available too?
 
@JerryCoffin No, I'm skipping ThreadRipper.
I'm not gonna spend that much money if I don't need to. And ThreadRipper doesn't have anything interesting about it other than a lot of cores. So it's really only useful for the purpose of compiling.
 
@Mysticial I can see it now--a Skylake X as the main CPU, and a Kaby Lake X just to run the light show...
 
The 18-core Skylake X's in October will be an exercise in bandwidth-constrained programming. But I'm probably gonna skip now since the 10-core one has the full AVX512.
 
@Mysticial You say "only compiling" as if a computer had other real uses (well, okay, editing too--but that won't tax even a puny CPU).
 
12:41 AM
Now... if I find a way to unload this 10-core Skylake X, then I'll be getting the 16 or 18-core. Likewise, if I can find a way to unload my 8 x 16GB DDR3 3300 MHz sticks, I'll get RGB equivalents.
 
@Mysticial This looks a little confusing. How do they map six DIMM slots to 4 memory channels?
 
@JerryCoffin Two slots per channel.
@JerryCoffin It's 8 slots. The lighting is tricky.
 
@Mysticial Oh, the lights are between the sockets? Makes sense.
 
And the reason why I need a short video card is because I'm trying to do something like this:
And I have a really small case.
 
what figurine will you put there
 
12:46 AM
Kuroyukihume
Spent quite a bit of time doing measurements to see what I can fit and to figure out what the measurements listed online are actually measuring.
 
@Mysticial Need a version with flapping wings to help the CPU fan...
 
never enough flapping
 
Here's the parts list of this upcoming build: pcpartpicker.com/user/mysticial/saved/Y7qjXL
Note that I'm not paying anywhere near the 3.5k it's listing at.
I already have the ram and the SSD.
The case, PSU, and cooler I ordered last week and have already assembled. That's how I was able to do measurements to see what space budget I have for a video card should I decide to put a figurine in it.
I'll probably pick up a couple RGB strips once the build is up and running.
 
1:07 AM
@Mysticial my answer from a few weeks ago is still getting passive rep, +168 and counting. This may carry me to 15k privileges xD
 
@Borgleader woah
 
@JerryCoffin physics failed - can't fly with that gigantic wind resistant skirt
 
ikr xD
 
1:30 AM
@Telkitty At the speed of a butterfly, the weight would probably be a bigger problem than wind resistance.
 
flying up would incur wind resistant - of course that's on top of gravity
 
@Telkitty Climbing would be when drag mattered the least and weight would matter the most. A dive is when you'd care the most about drag.
 
1:47 AM
@Mysticial it is kinda sad you have to buy the top end CPU to make that board actually work properly
 
@Mgetz no kidding
 
@Mysticial and that's why I'm waiting for cannonlake... which hopefully will have most of that without the painful "up to" bullshit
personally I'd be happy with 32 PCI-E lanes
 
I'm confident things will get better once AMD ThreadRipper starts applying some pressure.
Once that starts happening, shit like disabled PCIe lanes or pigeon poop will probably go away.
 
@Mysticial honestly... seriously considering ThreadRipper if it has more PCI-E lanes
I don't like the fact my GPU has to suffer so I can have a fast SSD or a nice sound card
 
@JerryCoffin yeah, try to lift a chicken or a cat using a toy drone
 
1:58 AM
@Mgetz Wait till AMD comes out with 4 or 8-core chips with 64 PCIe lanes.
That'll be specially targeted at gaming, and it'll piss Intel off in more ways than one. lol
 
@Mysticial It'll make scientists happy too
 
That's not actually on the roadmap for either company. But it would be interesting nonetheless.
@Mgetz I have a different reason for wanting Cannonlake.
And I'm aiming for a Cannonlake laptop sometime next year.
There's a couple of AVX512 extensions on Cannonlake that a lot of bignum people are looking forward to.
 
You are building a computer every half years now?
 
@hwlau Likely yes for this year and next. But I've had nothing between 2014 - 2016.
Mainly because there has been nothing during that time.
laptops don't count
 
ya, it was a stagnation for few years.
It seems more exciting now
 
2:14 AM
My builds for the last 10 years have been:
2008: 2 x Xeon (45nm Core 2 generation)
2009: Core i7 920 (Nehalem)
2011: Core i7 2600k (Sandy Bridge)
2013: FX-8350 (Piledriver) + Core i7 4770k (Haswell)
2014: Core i7 5960X (Haswell)
2017: Ryzen 7 1800X (Zen) + Core i9 7900X (Skylake X)
laptops and hardware donations excluded
Most of these machines were built specifically for the instruction set or architecture they had.
The only two that weren't are the Core i7 920, and the 5960X. I'd consider those two the "luxury" builds.
 
2:28 AM
How do you deal with the old one
@Mysticial You get the donations of computers, or you donated them
 
@hwlau Received
 
Have you received computers from some sources that ask you to test them
 
No. If people want to test, they just download the program and to it manually.
 
@hwlau Remember: there are needy number crunchers who need your donations...
 
The only substantial donation I've received was for a quad-socket Opteron server for the purpose of NUMA development.
 
2:33 AM
@JerryCoffin what do they need?
@Mysticial so it is a job?
 
No, just my hobby.
 
@hwlau CPUs and RAM, mostly.
 
@JerryCoffin no motherboard?
 
@hwlau Probably them too, now that you mention it. Oh, and you to make sure they all have RGB lighting...
 
Why do people like the RGB things?
 
2:39 AM
@hwlau You'll have to ask them.
@Telkitty I think I'll pass. I flew RC gliders (and powered aircraft a few times) in the 1980s, but mostly lost interest quite a while ago.
@Mysticial Quite properly--at least IMO, laptops don't count.
 
@JerryCoffin Granted, I have "abused" laptop purchases to get a processor generation that I intend to skip for a build.
(namely Skylake desktop)
In intend to do the same for Cannonlake next year.
But it's usually hard to do any sort of performance tuning on laptops. Most of them have massive power saving features which fuck up any sort of benchmark. Artificially slowing them to a static (but low) frequency by abusing Windows' power options leads to a system with an very unrealistic compute/bandwidth ratio.
 
@Mysticial Well, there's basically no such thing as an Intel desktop processor anymore. There's just notebook and server chips re-badged as "HEDT"...
 
And the massive overheating. They aren't designed to handle the shit I throw at them.
@JerryCoffin yeah
 
@Mysticial My old laptop (Ivy Bridge) does all right--for up to maybe a whole minute, but certainly not much more than that.
 
I have also have an Ivy Bridge laptop that clocks to 3.2 GHz. But under my kind of load, it throttles to 2.4 GHz, but not consistently.
Temps regularly go over 100C under my code.
And only 8 GB of ram. I never intended to use it this way, but I was forced to after I burned my 2600k Sandy Bridge build.
 
2:53 AM
@Mysticial I've never even tried to run seriously intensive code on mine--just compiling is enough to get it into the "fry an egg" range...
 
lol
 
@Mysticial have you thought about turning them all into a heterogeneous beowolf cluster and running your PI solver on it to see how far it would get (and fail spectacularly)
 
@Mgetz No because beowolf clusters don't work for anything that isn't embarrassingly parallel.
Most of the older machines that are past their prime stay off most of the time to preserve their life. (and to avoid wasting power)
I only turn them on to re-run the superoptimizer tuning once or twice a year.
 
@Mysticial fair enough, just figured it would be funny. Turning them on won't stop any tin wiskers already growing
 
@Mgetz Turning them off stops electromigration - which is the main killer of PCs.
(hard drive and case fan failures don't count, but they do tend to fail first)
 
2:58 AM
Must you use vectors? It sounds like you might be looking for std::list<T>::splice (though this modifies the original containers). — aschepler 2 mins ago
that is the worst advice I've seen on SO concerning containers from someone with over 10k
 
everyday, my 'to fix' list gets longer
I work flexible hours, just 500+ hours tasks - mostly fixing something either tangible or intangible to be done ASAP
 
 
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5:32 AM
Sup guise
 
@Rerito Supper's over. Almost time for bed.
 
@JerryCoffin You're in Colorado right?
Oh not anymore it appears
 
@Rerito Moved to San Diego a few years ago now.
 
@fredoverflow eeeeeuuurgh
 
5:43 AM
@fredoverflow That's hilarious
 
"It took us 4 years to get him fired. He left and got a $200k job at a defense contractor."
Top skill.
 
@fredoverflow Did no one during a code review at any point go "Are you insane?"?
 
@Borgleader "Yes?" "Extra points for honesty!"
 
6:04 AM
Haven't used this downstair toilet for a while, don't think the people who is living there do either - opened the lid, saw a frog 🐸 Thought it's a frog shaped toilet cleaner container hanging on the wall. Flushed, frog jumped into toilet hole (you know, the pipe where human waste travel through) - turns out, it's a real frog living in the toilet next to a puddle of water in the toilet bowl
 
6:40 AM
Rotated european flag vs original one? I think the rotated one looks nicer / more balanced
 
Yesterday I was preparing to go to bed and glanced outside. There were two scantily clad girls jumping rope. I watched them for a while and then spaced out, which I do from time to time. I awoke when they had started pointing and waving at me. I waved back at them and continued my evening routine.
@EdgyAlpaca That rotated one looks childish
 
nwp
7:29 AM
@Horttanainen I thought you live in the country of eternal winter. How did they not immediately freeze solid?
 
@nwp Its warm outside (and inside) a couple of days every year.
 
7:56 AM
@EdgyAlpaca Plus it has more symmetry
 
@Telkitty Australia!
 
8:28 AM
@EdgyAlpaca lol
> Four other teams from the University of Warsaw, Seoul National University, St. Petersburg State University and the Moscow Institute of Physics and Technology
so 2xRussia, China and... Poland
for some reason people love algo comps here
 
@Horttanainen I'll need to remember that. I don't have my earphones with me.
 
@Horttanainen mm
 
 
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Ven
9:47 AM
@EdgyAlpaca Une couronne
 
#include <iostream>

using ch_t = unsigned char ;

void foo ( ch_t volatile ch )
{
printf( "%d" , ch ) ;
}

int main() {

volatile ch_t prev = 224 ;
volatile ch_t over = ( prev + ch_t( 2 ) ) ;

foo ( over ) ;

return 0;
}
i'm getting 226.
with O0
 
Ven
This is not a C++ help room
 
oh sorry
 
Ven
@AndyProwl care to move the messages please?
 
Don't you just love it when something breaks because apparently you've been relying on UB all this time it "worked".
 
Ven
9:55 AM
I don't write code with UB.
 
and where are UB.?
overflow is well defined
for unsigned
 
I'm not talking about your code.
@Ven That's what they all say.
 
Ven
@GillBates yup, and it's easy to prove, since I use languages that don't have UB :P.
 
Ok fair enough
 
10:51 AM
wtf twitter is all round
 
Snapchat is triangular
 
@BartekBanachewicz Seoul is the capital of South Korea...
 
11:17 AM
@EdgyAlpaca "Doesn't matter they're all the same!"
 
@EdgyAlpaca lol right
my bad
lol @0:50
I thought that their music videos would look nice and I'm not dissapointed
also the captions
 
11:45 AM
> One person died and 11 were injured in the early hours of Monday morning after a van was driven into a crowd of Muslim worshippers in Finsbury Park, in north London
so was that an act of terrorism?
 
Ven
it's not terrorism if it's against minorities.
 
That heat wave though
La canicule m'emballe. /cc @EdgyAlpaca
Some quality #bikeshedding: stackoverflow.com/questions/44651860/…
 
Ven
it's not the same? i think?
 
It's not the same and that's why that's genuinely some quality bikeshedding
 
@BartekBanachewicz yeah, sadly so
 
11:56 AM
@Rerito Perfect time to drink more beer.
 
And no one to validate my good looking "contrepetrie"
Triste France
 
@Rerito Too lame D:
 
nwp
@Rerito The edit makes it interesting again, at least if you didn't know that already.
 
@Morwenn it's getting to that sort of crazy heat where I'd start having mad ideas like drinking buds... that thought alone makes me glad I'm not drinking any more :D
 
@thecoshman Why would you drink buds? D:
I mean, you can literally go to any pub and have something better than that.
 
12:07 PM
@Morwenn Well, when it's really hot, and you mostly just want something you can have supper cold to down a few fast and not feel even slightly drunk
 
50 shades of blue screen of death ... speaking of which, that shade of blue is not too bad of a colour for a jumper
 
@thecoshman That's called water.
Tap water.
 
vOv I'm a pirate, can't be drinking clean water
 
Still better than bad.
 
@thecoshman Pilseners are really good for that
 
12:15 PM
Tsingtao is good enough when you just want something cool.
 
Ven
it's not really good :[
 
I wouldn't say it's great, but I kind of like it when it's hot.
That said, I've got some Calsberg Elephant at home, which is pretty good.
 
@Morwenn ergh, that stuff would turn my stomach
like I said though, no booze for me :(
 
Ven
I can confirm.
I've seen him do coke after coke.
 
12 cans all in one package!
 
12:33 PM
:D
 
12:46 PM
@Borgleader I think the onion is more legit than many news network.
 
@thecoshman :o
 
@Telkitty I'll be impressed if they make it 2^32 big
 
Ell
@thecoshman you want a shandy
 
1:30 PM
do you guys spend more time thinking the logic and try to make it work the first time or code it whatever the way and use testing to find out logic errors?
 
I drive the logic and design using mocks and TDD. When the main thing is done I test drive implementations for those mocks
 
nwp
I found that TDD is good at pinning down behavior which is bad for creative work where you don't really know what the result will look like.
 
@nwp I always know how the result will look like because i start from the top and mock everything as I go.
this way I have a perfect design from the top down. Then I repeat this for every mock if needed.
 
TDD != write all of the tests before writing a single line of production code
 
1:38 PM
TDD is basically just making sure you are always thinking about your testing
 
nwp
I want to learn that some day. I've not had any real success with mocking at all.
 
design your code so that you can test it
 
@thecoshman Are you talking to me ?
 
nwp
It still bothers me that I have to make my design worse in order to be able to test it better.
 
that means keep it focused, keep it modular etc
@Horttanainen you triggered that allergic reaction, yes
@nwp either you are testing badly, or designing badly
 
1:40 PM
You dont understand TDD at all
 
nwp
@thecoshman For example google mock wants me to make all my functions virtual so it can hook into them. I don't want virtual functions in my design ever.
 
@nwp like I said, testing badly :P
You should sort out your dependencies
 
you don't need virtual to make functions mockable/hookable
 
@nwp that shouldn't ever happen
@nwp that's a problem with google mock, not your code per se
 
eg, the database should be reached via a interface (or what ever your language does for that concept) and it should passed in to objects that need it. To test, you create a mock database that implements your database interface so that during tests you can pass that in, instead of the real database
 
1:44 PM
there's also the thing that mocking everything everytime is not always worth it
sometimes accepting less granularity in the tests is necessary and that's life
 
@BartekBanachewicz Yes, but if you get to do a library from scratch it is certainly worth it to create a walking skeleton using mocks
 
it depends
 
no it does not
 
there's no simple answer to "what to test and how", it always depends on the particular project
 
mocking should be avoided, if you can test against the real thing, do it
 
1:47 PM
in the end what matters is that you ship working software; noone is paying for working tests
 
every time you add a mock, you add a chance that you are testing false presumptions
 
@BartekBanachewicz I am talkign about the design not the tests
 
@Horttanainen library design isn't simple either and I don't believe "rules-of-thumb" cover its entirety
 
@thecoshman One of those places that would benefit tremendously from concepts, which would let you define an "interface" that isn't based on virtual functions.
 
@JerryCoffin ah, hence you use concepts rather than abstract base class?
 
1:48 PM
concepts are better because they're open
 
my C++ is getting dated... well... concepts are still not a thing, so I'm not doing that bad
 
interfaces require you to inherit beforehand and disallow implementation for a class that already exists without modifying or wrapping it
that's a huge downside IMHO
 
@thecoshman something like a database connection should be a global (hidden in a singleton or not), and your testing framework should have access to override it
 
@ratchetfreak no variable should ever be global
nothing that goes outside your code should ever be global either
 
@ratchetfreak completely besides the point
 
1:50 PM
@thecoshman Precisely--since you don't want virtual functions, you specify a concept, and pass something that models that concept as a template parameter. The big thing is that the concept specification itself gives you an artifact that an automatic code generator can read and generate stubs that meet its requirements.
 
making DB connections global is precisely what makes them hard to mock
but then again sometimes "mock DB" can be just a DB populated with predefined data which you connect to in a regular way
it doesn't necessarily need to be on the code level
 
point is, invert dependencies
if class bar needs an instance of class foo, that instance should be passed in. This means you can happily test instances of bar with real or mocked versions
if bar creates it's own instances of foo it is effectively a hard coded variable, so obviously your code is hard to test, because it's not modular.
This is, strangely, one of the things the Java world seems to get fairly well, rely on interfaces not concrete types
 
@thecoshman that's because in java virtual is the default
 
@thecoshman at the same time they get mostly everything else wrong so
 
@ratchetfreak that had nothing to do with it
@BartekBanachewicz true, let's give them credit for something, the poor little tots
 
user7442629
1:59 PM
lol these tags
 
hi @Aleksbgbg
 
user7442629
Hi @milleniumbug
 
user7442629
Didn't know you speak English
 
user7442629
C++* woops
 
Embarcadero c++ questions welcome here?
 
2:04 PM
@HappyCoding nope there's a separate room for that: chat.stackoverflow.com/rooms/116940/c-questions-and-answers
 
@ratchetfreak Thank you, I was confused with the room name. Wasn't sure.
 
@LoïcFaure-Lacroix that looks fancier than I remember it
 
2:56 PM
@thecoshman As Perl itself gets worse, associated paraphernalia needs to be prettier to compensate.
 
@JerryCoffin yeah, I used to really like Perl, but I've not used it in ages, and not much makes me want to look at it again
 
3:13 PM
@thecoshman Don't look at it. Write it.
 
bleh
writing code is the worst idea, then it has to be maintained
 
3:29 PM
@thecoshman Still waiting the day when you'll tell the computer what you want to achieve and the computer will write the code in consequence
We won't write code, we will speak it!
 
nwp
and the ensuing ambiguities will make our job a living hell
 
Me: let x be a random number between 1 and 100.
Computer: x = 42;
 
hello
 
@LoïcFaure-Lacroix I've tried coding using voice recognition software... it's not fun
 
hi
 
3:38 PM
Well voice recognition is one thing but interpret what you're actually saying is an other thing.
voice recognition wasn't that bad even in 1998. It's not like recognizing sound is a so complicated thing
Writing text in word using voice recognition is fine as long as you don't get into complicated things like building tables / charts etc. I guess writing code would be hard because of the syntaxis and we can edit multiple time the same part of code. For example, writing scheme code by voice would be easier since there is little to no construct
 
it's human language that is a complicated thing with all the accents, homophones, etc.
 
@ratchetfreak well hardly going to be an issue unless you speak like Shakespeare and code is usually quite repetitive.
I'd be more worried with the computer trying to interpret whatever you say while talking to yourself
That said, scheme would could be easy to write using a computer assistance. Loops are usually named so you can tell almost exactly where to add what. And editing code is almost like editing directly the AST so nothing really fancy there
 
@LoïcFaure-Lacroix well, it was C++, and all the punctuation is tedious :P
I was just using word though, not a tool that was expecting code
 
That's what I guessed, I wouldn't expect anything more than "not fun" in this case or extremly fun but completely innefficient
I remember it was messy when you tell the computer to erase a particular line or paragraph but instead simply write "erase last paragraph. Oh no, erase paragraph, select all! delete...."
 
4:13 PM
Aka da) or dap
 
Holy shit, both the 8-core and the 10-core Skylake X chips are sold out of pre-orders.
Nobody gives a shit about the lower-end ones. lol
 
Ven
<your own logic> "this code is buggy." it won't work if long is 32 bits </your own logic>. (isn't it, your own logic? after all, I'm just repeating what is already said in your answer, as my critique of it). — Will Ness 42 mins ago
this guy is acting like 10 years old because I pointed out his answer depended on argument evaluation order...
 
lol "I don't like your SO comment, so I found your old codegolf answer and ranted there"
that said, the original SO question is dumb anyway
 
@milleniumbug If someone wants to get revenge, they should at least have the balls to serially downvote them and do personal insults under all their posts via comments.
Doing this half-thing is stupid.
 
Ven
i know, right?
 
nwp
4:26 PM
"You are so dumb, you don't even know how to be a proper dick."
 
Ven
he must've dug a LOT
damn
 
4:58 PM
@nwp I once came very close to getting into a fight in a bar because I said something like that (but people didn't understand what I was getting at). A guy who was (apparently) around 3/4th Caucasian and 1/4th African-American was telling about when he was in college playing football, somebody had called him a "wigger", but at the time he didn't know what it meant, so he didn't feel insulted. I thought it was pretty funny, which pissed him off.
Then I explained that what I thought was funny was some bigoted red-neck trying to be an asshole--and basically failing!
I can almost picture the guy getting home from the game and his parents ripping him a new one because he failed in his attempt to follow in their footsteps as a true example of the pinnacle of bigotry and prejudice. "I spent 15 hours in labor, and now you fail me this way? What kind of son are you, anyway?"
 
bwahahaha
Escape room : Vim edition
 
rep envy
 
> How do you exit vim? You cannot exit vim. Because vim cannot be exited. Vim is not a tool that can be exited. As I have said many times before, there is no entity that can be used to exit vim. Even Jon Skeet cannot exit vim. Every time you attempt to exit Vim, the...
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^^ You can totally do a Bobince-like answer on exiting vim.
 
6:18 PM
If net neutrality passes, would a decentralized network be the way to go?
 
6:30 PM
@faceless Remind me what neutrality means? That internet will be unregulated by the government could be forced to have to pay fee to get speed on some site... Or neutrality in the sense that all site will be accessible the same way
 
Sorry, wasn't being descriptive enough...if the law to rid net neutrality is passedyour Internet Service Provider could arbitrarily block whatever websites it didn't want you to access (e.g. perhaps blocking you from accessing competitors' websites).
It could also mean your service provider purposefully degrades access to certain websites or services and/or forces you to pay extra to access certain websites or services (imagine paying an extra $5 a month to your service provider just because you want to access reddit).
If this happens, would a decentralized architecture be the way to go?
 
you mean, boycotting existing infrastructure and creating your own?
 
You still need to be connected to the internet
even if you have a mesh network, you need some kind of entry-point on the real thing
 
Yeah @milleniumbug like a mesh network type of system
what @LoïcFaure-Lacroix said
 
Also technically company could block mesh networks the same way they can block you from tethering internet from your phone
 
6:42 PM
No shizzle. rea;;y?
Hmmmm
Even if the nodes, our computers are the mesh network themselves?
 
guess how existing internet works
 
Well technically I guess the entry point could hide nodes behind I don't know enough about the TCP protocol to say how the packets are going back into the network they left
 
But wait, @LoïcFaure-Lacroix, the monopolies couldnt cut out every single node?
 
@faceless unless all nodes are connected to the internet you don't need to block them all
anyway if nodes are all connected what's the point?
 
Whats the point of a decentralized network?
is that what youre asking
 
6:46 PM
nah, what's the point to have all nodes in the mesh network connected to the network you're not supposed to use
you still have to pay for it and people not paying for it will use your traffic
Better make sure the law doesn't pass
 
There has to be a way!!! QQ
 
unless you have a lot of money, you'll end up paying like everyone
 
unless i had a lot of money, I'd hire chinese hackers to put an end to this
Man, I wonder how different our government would be if we had a decentralized voting system
IMagine being able to vote from your phone
On local policies or even federal ones
 
It's not decentralized
 
Yeah, our voting system is not decentralized
 
6:50 PM
I mean voting from home isn't really centralized in the sense vote still gets in one place only
 
One conveniently hackable place. I might add.
 
Yeah, you'd end up with vote coming from China and Russia changing your country's policy
When Hacking android phone opens door for other countries to pass stupid laws
 
fuuu
 
#10: Technology is not panacea
 
Even with blockchain hashes?
I guess they would find another way?
#9: Plagues are the panacea
 
6:54 PM
The point is that with security holes your smartphone can be accessed by a third party and they can vote for a different option than you would have wanted to
 
That's when you create one of these
to stop all of these hackers
 
a nuclear apocalypse will stop hackers too
probably more effective too
 
But those drones look cool
wait, what about an artificial super intelligence to delegate all of our political ideologies objectively?
 
are we making up scifi technobabble now?
 
then the programmers get blamed for everything... oh wait, that's already a thing
 
6:58 PM
lol
I mean with IBM computers being able to diagnose cancer more accurately than doctors, we are getting somewhere
 
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