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21:01
@Morwenn Of course.
@EtiennedeMartel The collab is surprising, the topic of the song not so much :p
Finally find the track that I had in my head é__è
Seriously, it's painful when you've got the same riff in mind all day long, but can't remember where it comes from.
I've decided that this whole album is great
Eeeeh, I don't Spotify :(
your loss
you're missing fire
I've already plenty of fire in my ears though.
Too many good things to listen to to live a single life.
Is that a Fabergé egg? :D
21:22
dunno
Looks like one.
@Mysticial Is it possible to "underclock" a Xeon? (I'd like to test how low I can go while still meeting a performance goal.)
Anyway, I'm way too tired. I'm going to sleep.
Have a good night or whatever :)
nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
21:25
@StackedCrooked Depends on the BIOS. Some of them allow you to adjust the multiplier down.
Hm. I should check it out.
In Windows, you can use the power options to forcibly lower the clock.
On one of my older laptops, there was a driver bug where power options allowed the processor ratio to drop down to 1%. Which basically meant that the processor was allowed to clock at 133 MHz (base clock 133, multiplier 1x).
That wasn't very pleasant.
Took an act of congress to be able to debug it and open up power options to force the minimum back to something more reasonable than 1%.
Windows 7 isn't designed to run on a 133 MHz Nehalem processor.
21:28
Things are so laggy that you start getting the 5-second unresponsive window warnings - which require CPU power to process.
Thus an endless positive feedback loop.
nwp
nwp
@Mysticial What act of congress are you talking about? The US senate doesn't really fit.
@Mysticial lol
And if Windows 7 isn't meant for a 133 MHz Nehalem. Then Windows 10 is meant for some Skylake or Kaby Lake processor clocked at 37.4 THz. Since that's what it takes.
tbf I found Win10 to be much more fluid when CPU is limited (read: on a VM)
but the difference I observed could actually have been more efficient graphics or anything really
> the “wiggle” strategy to maintain uptime on [the bonus damage while moving] effect has a negative impact on the health of the game (and its players).
21:31
Win10 inside a VM was faster than the Win7 host lol
@RudiantoPrasetya huh, anet is surprisingly sensible for once
btw engi turret buffs
21:48
@Mikhail 160TB of shared memory + multi-level NUMA: yahoo.com/tech/world-apos-largest-single-memory-130056386.html
win10 is pretty awesome once you get the shitty frontend work out of the way
@Aaron3468 I still want my Aero glass back.
You could probably also make a kernel that allows software underclocking without slowing down essential functions.
@Mysticial Me too ;-;
@Aaron3468 That's not possible. The only way to not slow down the "essential functions" is to use liquid nitrogen.
@Aaron3468 the control panel is pretty dreadful
@Mysticial yes :( fuck flat design
no other real complaints
Aero glass was gorgeous. can't comprehend why it's not available any more
21:51
Wait! Apparently it exists and nobody told me!
But not the whole thing Q.Q
@Aaron3468 I've read a gazillion articles about turning on glass. None of them worked. Is that one for real?
huh, my start menu is already glassy
I want the rest to be not-flat
all contrast and delineation has been removed. it's almost as bad as MS's website. almost.
I wonder if there's a version of WindowBlinds for win10? That was an amazing program
@BoundaryImposition Personally I love Control Panel, I hate Settings
@Aaron3468 guess I meant Settings
I remember reading that MS went with the all-flat and single color theme with Win8 because back then they wanted a single UI for all platforms and transparency and gradients is harder on the GPU and therefore eats more battery.
21:54
Control Panel is okayish except you can't put it in Details mode so the sorting is left-to-right top-to-bottom (wtf?) and I can never find anything
That's right: you're stuck with that ugly theme because MS wanted their OS to run on a phone.
Because in win10, they were trying to turn the desktop into a giant mobile phone.
that was win8
@Mysticial I don't get it. Says, its made of many nodes. Does it actually appear as a single machine or is just a regular cluster where you launch stuff with mpi-run?
in win10 they marginally learnt their lesson
21:54
They're retarded to think you can have the same interface for large monitor and a tiny screen.
Even YouTube learned to back out of that idea. (which was something seriously considered at the time I was there)
And they added so many half-implemented versions of the old win7 interface. I just use the win7 programs anyways. I uninstalled all the apps I could and replaced the rest.
YouTube's mobile interface is passable
@Mysticial Imagine what MS would have done to the Windows Desktop had wearable caught on!
21:56
But it is nice to get mobile apps with controller support from the store :3 Cheap way to get well-polished microtransaction-happy apps that I can play for a few hours without paying.
@Mikhail No idea. Too much information was lost in the "dumbification" of the article to target the general audience. I imagine it's probably actual shared memory where you can have a single address space. But it'll probably be so heavily NUMA that'll it'll be useless unless you know what you're doing.
Asphalt 8 for example is a decent game from the store.
@Mysticial But, in principle, 4TB are impressive... Maybe the real story is that you can get a 4TB node?
let's see what Stardock has been up to
WindowBlinds doesn't quite get Win7 replication working :LP
Looks a little ugly, but it's close. Better text anti-aliasing would fix it, along with slightly rounder tabs.
22:00
@Mikhail You can already do 12 TB on a node. Quad-socket Haswell/Broadwell system with 192 DIMMs.
Too much drop shadow to hide the bad antialiasing.
@Mysticial But I'm not aware of any mobo that has that...
Whoever's idea it was to get rid of the Aero Glass should be fired. Or was that Ballmer?
Mar 23 at 2:38, by Mysticial
And the validation file: http://www.numberworld.org/y-cruncher/benchmarks/v0.7.2/20170318-072103.txt
Some HP proprietary thing.
Stardock is cheeky as f@ck
22:06
@Mysticial still only 6TB, but yes, I see your point
trying to get people to pay up front by stealth-disabling what is otherwise a perfectly functional "Download 30-day trial" link
@Mikhail That one is 192 x 32GB. But there exist 64GB DIMMs.
also wow when did cnet get so spammy
Yeah, cnet and stardock are cashgrabs that you have to live with if you want their exclusive content.
in fact that's put me off now
a few minutes ago that was going to be a trial run with a high chance of purchase
cretins
22:09
I avoid cnet downloads unless absolutely necessary because sometimes I forget to turn off the optional free installations of mcafee or browser extensions
I literally don't trust the trial's setup exe. not going to run it.
@RudiantoPrasetya here we go
22:44
@Mysticial So apparently, there are leaked slides Intel is going to have a new segment: i9s
not super enthused tbh, was kinda hoping for some beefing up of i7s (in terms of core count)
maybe shift some transistors from the gpu to extra cores (i mean lets be honest how many ppl by an i7 and use the onboard gpu?)
@Borgleader aka, "shitty Xeons"
As of right now, there's a reason why I'm not too excited about them.
It has something to do with the information I have that's still under NDA.
22:58
wtf @ flag
@nbro Kindly fuck off back to the aforementioned
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@Puppy Apparently, people here happen to talk about topics not related to C++ (or even programming), but promoting the growth of a programming community by linking you guys to the chat isn't permitted. Ok. I guess it makes a lot of sense.
I like talking about cooking but that doesn’t mean I like food advertising
@nbro you can safely ignore Puppy using the "ignore this user (everywhere)" feature on user popups in chat
good luck with your room!
@nbro I like top gear, doesnt mean I like car ads.
We dont like drive by links of any kind
23:11
@Borgleader First of all, you can't talk for the whole community.
@Mysticial Lower clock on AVX?
@Borgleader Same. I can't afford the cars there. Nothing like dangling something you really want in front of you that you can't have.
@nbro Honestly, I wouldn't engage - this conversation will go nowhere good
Yes, I agree, also because I have other things to do too ;)
@Borgleader So I get Newegg hard drive ads on MAL. Which is totally appropriate. I'm not sure if that's because of the tracking cookies that knows I buy that sort of stuff. Or whether it's the nature of MAL that tends to have a higher proportion of people building computers and needing hard drives. OTOH, I've been looking a lot at real estate lately. And I don't exactly get my sidebars filled with penthouse listings - even when I'm shopping for furniture and related shit.
However, I get mail ads for listings for units in the same fucking building that I live in. I'm guessing their target audience is for people who can buy multiple units and rent them out.
23:42
@Mysticial Huh, I do actually get condo ads because I do search for them, I havent noticed a pattern on where they appear though but I know I at least got them on youtube.
@Mysticial I liked getting a flier for garden work delivered to my apartment. Turned out everybody else in the block got one too. No gardens anywhere in the complex.
That was some 400 apartments lol
And they'd been hand delivered...
@BoundaryImposition There must have been a lot of programmers on that block.
@Mysticial off by one their heads errors, yeah
Oh right LRIO doesn't get the botany jokes.
no I must admit I have no idea what you're talking about
you have detected my nodding and smiling this time
almost 1am and I forgot to have dinner or really do anything of any kind. dang
hate going to bed hungry. oh well bye
23:46
@Borgleader Maybe if I turned off my adblocker I'd see them more often.
@Mysticial Tracking cookies. If you don't block them they'll personalize ads everywhere. I haven't been in the market for a gpu for a long time, but some sites still associate my ip with that data...
@Aaron3468 So if you want to troll someone with unprotected wifi...
No, that's where you do a man in the middle attack with your own router imitating theirs and injecting cat photos whenever the html contains an img
Or flipping all images upside down :D
That's too tame. lol
:\ after the kind of day I had poking around the codebase at work I want to rant, but this is too public a place. If only there were someplace private with a whitelisted viewer list, like discord.
23:51
@Mysticial Conceivably you could turn a raspberry pi into a mini-router that automatically copies nearby routers and serves a prank of your choosing
Then you make a few of them and place them around the city.
Oh right, you can get people's wifi passwords if you successfully impersonate a router.
They'll connect. Deny them access and ask for password.
They see that the SSID is the same, so they'll enter it thinking it glitched.
Then your router connects to the "real" one and forwards the info there to do the connection. Now you've pulled off a MITM and obtained the password to the wifi.
Yep, then you can inject whatever data you want into the pages being served or the data being entered.
But the legality depends on where you are. Some places have no tolerance for mischief, others will laugh and let you off with a warning not to do it again.
Or don't tell them, but you really only need a day or two inject enough ARPs to break your neighbor's WiFi
If you're gonna troll someone like that, you might as well find a way to take over their webcam so you can observe the reactions.

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