« first day (2377 days earlier)      last day (2589 days later) » 
00:00 - 19:0019:00 - 00:00

Ell
12:21 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes what like? For rust in particular I mean
 
12:48 AM
@LucDanton Is this bait
 
12:59 AM
it’s the radio silence that’s driving me crazy, they’re not saying what they’re up to but it’s fairly obvious another dragon expansion is coming (without spoiling LW3)
and I don’t know if it’ll work out for them
 
inb4 they all really left for Amazon Game Studio and it's just a couple interns left running the game
 
a likely story
 
I choose to believe
 
 
2 hours later…
2:59 AM
don't be shy
no question or remark is too dumb for this chat
4
 
3:10 AM
> Vous lisez un « article de qualité ».
je suis « impressionné »
 
@Telkitty did we have a live one
 
@Telkitty you have just insulted a Software Engineer at Intel
 
@jaggedSpire care for a swim?
 
@Borgleader :D
 
3:21 AM
@jaggedSpire p.s: hi :3
 
<3 <3 <3
 
@jaggedSpire I am sure you are aware that was a bait >_<
@ProblemSlover multiple assumption failure
 
@Telkitty who, me? :D
Hrm
I just thought of a good comment for imgur but I don't care enough to make an account
oh well
looks like someone didn't so much poke the hornet's nest as slapped it with a live haddock while screeching
@Borgleader prime doggo
 
3:54 AM
> Comme aurait dit L. Ron Hubbard : il est Thétan.
@SpongyFruitcake
 
@jaggedSpire you can sign in with your other social media account
 
@Telkitty does it take reddit
no
 
good one :p
 
darn
 
reddit is social media now? :p
 
3:58 AM
Isn't the definition of social media a location where people can form groups and be morons online
 
 
holy pants
I don't recall them being that large
 
@jaggedSpire Online community versus social media. There's overlap, but social media is where you form bonds by interacting with the same people and not a revolving door
 
@jaggedSpire sounds like this chat >_<
 
@Telkitty :V
 
4:09 AM
I imagine revolving doors aren't very talkative :3
 
@Aaron3468 hm, makes sense
 
it's hard to bond with a revolving door
 
going to bed pretty shortly here
@Telkitty I've tried, it kept turning away
 
@jaggedSpire goodest of doggos
 
it takes time to know someone reasonable well
 
4:11 AM
@Borgleader I'm not even sorry about puns anymore you menace
 
Menace? :(
 
@Borgleader <3 meant it fondly
I have also caught myself making puns under my breath at the grocery store
I can not call you a menace again if it bothers you
 
I thought you hated me for my puns :(
 
@Borgleader no! Nothing like that :(
You have, however corrupted my sense of humor and brought me to the pun side
 
Guilty as charged.
 
4:22 AM
<3
 
@Borgleader what a cute danger noodle :3
 
 
1 hour later…
5:23 AM
so there's a new react apparently
hi @R.MartinhoFernandes
I see I'm not the only one up that early :F
 
@Xeo I just finished marathon catching on up Youjo Senki. The thing that bothers me a lot is that I can't find out who voices Mary. That voice, I feel like I've heard it a million times before. But I can't find out who the seiyu is. And it's killing me.
 
Xeo
huh, only character without a voice actor on MAL
 
Wait... Is it Marina Inoue?
I need to pull out "Yahari Ore no Seishun" and "Valkyria Chronicles" to compare.
 
Xeo
Haruka Tomatsu
 
No shit, I think you might be right.
They both have very similar voices.
 
Xeo
5:32 AM
> メアリー
戸松 遥
 
damn
You're good.
 
Xeo
(as if I'd know who VAs what, lol)
huh, lotsa roles
Asuna from SAO...
Lala from TLR
 
I have Valkyria Chronicles (Alicia) and Youjo Senki (Mary) side-by-side. And I can't tell them apart.
Lemme pull out SAO.
 
Xeo
Oh, also Morgiana from Magi
 
I need to find an SAO scene where Asuna is in distress.
 
Xeo
5:37 AM
Nagi from Kannagi...
Pina Co Lada from Gate
 
Haruka Tomatsu is a very popular seiyu. Her voice doesn't stand as much as some of the other ones. So she's in everything without you knowing it.
 
Xeo
I added her role as Mary to MAL
 
I've just went through 5 episodes of SAO, and I can't find a scene where she's doing her distressed voice.
 
Xeo
try the later ones?
or try in ALO
 
I was looking around the ones at the end of SAO but before ALO.
There isn't much Asuna in ALO.
@Xeo I assume it needs moderator approval right?
 
Xeo
5:44 AM
ye
@Mysticial There should be some distress scenes with her tho, considering the content of ALO lol
 
There is, but she isn't talking.
Oh fuck this. It does sound like her though.
OTOH, both of the main female characters in Youjo Senki are voiced by seiyus whom I usually identify after a couple sentences.
Namely the Madoka voice, and the Haqua/Shinoa voice.
 
Xeo
I don't care too much about VAs
 
I subconsciously recognize a lot of them.
 
Hey do you know why a bitshift to the left might segfault? I'm shifting a bit all the way to the 32nd, 8 to bits 31-24, and the rest tacked on the end (using ORs in between). Visual Studio likes it, my ARM compiler doesn't...
the problem is with the 8 bits in the middle
 
Xeo
might be invoking UB, also go here with example code: chat.stackoverflow.com/rooms/116940/c-questions-and-answers
 
5:53 AM
ok thank you
 
@LucDanton θ/10
 
Xeo
@Mysticial anyways, now that you're done with Evil Loli, what else do you have to catch up on?
 
@Xeo Idol Jihen and Kuzu no Honkai. I've decided to drop the rest.
 
look at his job title
 
Xeo
@Mysticial "the rest" being?
 
And Hand Shakers. (not dropped, on ep9 so far)
@Xeo Urara Meirochou, Tricker, Fuuka, Spiritpact. elDLIVE.
 
Xeo
Did you watch KonoSuba? Can't remember
 
6:07 AM
Finished.
 
The studio that made a mess of Aldnoah Zero is working on a show called Clockwork Planet right now. It seems not too bad, but it's only the second episode and Aldnoah was pretty good early on.
 
Xeo
don't talk to me about Clockwork Planet
the anime adaptation is a fucking wreck
 
The ones I finished are: Youjo Senki, KonoSuba, Seiren, Akiba's Trip, Schoolgirl Strikers, Masamune-kun no Revenge.
I pick up an old show (Houkago no Pleiades) mid-season and marathoned it over 3 days. Terrible show though, I checked it out because I came across the OP on SoundCloud.
 
@Xeo Yeah, I figured they were going to make a mess somehow
 
Xeo
They fucked up from the very beginning
by portraying Naoto as some incompetent idiot
 
6:12 AM
Ah, I see. I kind of assumed Naoto would be like Tokyo Ghoul in terms of character development. They might fix his character, but with what they did to Slaine, I don't expect much.
 
Xeo
Naoto is a genius in his own right in the manga and LN, always tinkering with clockwork stuff and building his own automata at home
In the anime? "Eh, trying to fix some broken clocks but can't do it"
 
Oh, that makes sense. I'm not a fan of it either.
Re:Creators, aside from the 're:' in the title seems interesting. But I can't see how there'll be anything except a generic ending. Any other animu this season worth watching for sure? Not a lot of big titles dropping lately
 
Xeo
I'm watching more anime this season than ever
(so far, pending drops on 1 or 2)
Re:Creators is an original anime, so I hope we get a nice conclusion. If anything, the theme, characters, animation and music are very nice so far.
 
I watch animal (on YouTube)
 
I have yet to look at the list for this season yet.
 
6:18 AM
Yes! The art, premise, and characters in Re:Creators seems fantastic! A few good studios behind it, so I'm hoping they don't drop the ball on writing
 
Xeo
Other than Re:Creators (and LWA continuing from last season), I'm following Rokudenashi (make sure to watch at least ep2), Tsugumomo (I heard good things about the fights, and the animation is nice), Alice to Zouroku (fluffy, with a chance of drama), DanMachi Gaiden - Sword Oratoria (for the twins and moar DanMachi world), Zero kara Hajimeru Mahou no Sho (nice world building and characters, also good animations) and lastly SukaSuka (just watch ep1, it draws you in)
Oh yeah, and half-heartedly following Clockwork Planet to see how much more they're gonna fuck it up
Also Busou Shoujo Machiasomethingorother as this season's guilty pleasure. It's a silly high school battle harem, but at least the MC isn't a wuss.
cc @Mysticial @StackedCrooked
I think I haven't listed it all in one place so far
 
The Maid Cafe usually has each season's listing pinned. Now atm though.
@Xeo Oh wow I already DL'ed the first episode for like 10 things this season.
That was 2 weeks ago, and I completely forgot about it.
 
Xeo
6:34 AM
Oh yeah, technically I'm also watching Shingeki no Bahamut's S2, but I'll binge-watch it with a friend when I'm back in my other flat.
 
6:51 AM
hi
 
:3 I shall keep up with those
 
How are we able to call static function from non-static object?
 
@Xeo nice list
 
non-static object will pass 'this' pointer
which is not possible for static fuction
any idea?
 
6:52 AM
Its working
 
@Xeo I'm planning to watch those. Already liking Re:Creators. Tsugumo is so so, feels a bit like a cheap ecchi series for now, but I've only see ep 1.
I'm also watching Granblue Fantasy.
 
Xeo
it's very ecchi and NSFW apparently, but the action supposedly makes up for it
 
Now that I think of it, the action actually was pretty good.
Oh, and Little Witch Academia became more interesting. So still watching that.
 
Xeo
Oh ffs. I lost my 10k unviewed rep because the header bar on chat.SO still views it on hover as opposed to click, like the main site. cc @Mysticial
10
and why did I check chat.SO? because some rando invited me to a room for no reason
:<
 
@nwp I lost about half a week of user data during that period. Apparently the VM image broke for some reason :(
 
7:03 AM
Morning fellow loungers
 
7:13 AM
@Xeo You need a browser add-on to automatically remove that button :(
 
@BartekBanachewicz I think you are a bot. twitter.com/bananu7/status/854550959145537536
 
More SJW drama! Now with Drupal devs.
 
I have so much anime to catch up onto too -.- collecting virtual dust since a year on my servers' hdd
15 items watched / completed out of 53 :x
 
7:39 AM
@Nican why would you think that
 
@BartekBanachewicz I felt like it was a canned markov-chain answer for a while, before I realized who it was. Took me a while to also remember what ML was.
 
@Nican Also furries are responding to my tweets this is creepy af
@Nican Sometimes I feel like packing a canned answer for a trip to twitter
 
@BartekBanachewicz lol
 
Xeo
hehe
 
7:51 AM
2nd episode was a great improvement :)
 
Xeo
ye, ep1 ended in a really stupid spot
should've been a double episode like Alice
 
So, why hasn't anyone mentioned FLRC?
cc @Ven @rightfold
 
I enjoy the pacing, so I think it'll be a good one
 
8:07 AM
I believe it's the face of russia..
http://varlamov.ru/1636193.html
Google translate makes it clear to me..
 
I assume this is because Russian cities or people were not designed for consumer goods.
 
Ven
8:33 AM
@BartekBanachewicz i saw it go through
 
@Xeo 10k world problems
 
@Mikhail TRue. And there is no fucking way I would ever want to visit this country.
 
Russia is a beautiful country.
 
you mean girls? ;p;
then I'd agree with you but not otherwise
 
Country side is nice
 
user1804599
 
user1804599
@BartekBanachewicz lol Haskell compilers that aren't GHC
 
How long does the GHC binary take to compile now days? (asking for a friend)
 
Depends on your hardware
With an SSD and a decent brocessor, a couple minutes at most
 
@rightfold it uses GHC as a frontend
 
9:03 AM
@SpongyFruitcake In Russia country you is beautiful
 
> It can be argued that this is an unfair comparison, since the C implementation is not able to do this optimization, and since this optimization cannot be done for all stencils. However, it was felt that the fact that a general purpose library is able to exploit these special cases is a benefit of the Haskell approach, and that artificially disabling the Haskell optimization was equally unfair.
lol
 
@thecoshman this meme has been retired
 
@rightfold Took me a while to get that bovid image out of my mind.
 
> Interestingly, the problem as originally written used a stencil of all ones, with the result that the compiler stack was able to eliminate all of the stencil multiplies entirely.
I just love those "problems"
 
9:35 AM
I'm often inheriting from trait classes like std::is_arithmetic<T> for my own type traits. I'm not sure whether it's ok or whether inheriting from typename std::is_arithmetic<T>::type is more sensible.
 
@Morwenn I suppose inheriting from typename ... would result in an inheritance diagram of your_trait : integral_constant<bool, value> instead of your_trait : is_arithmetic<someT> : integral_constant<bool, value>
The end result is still the same anyway
 
Just inheriting from the integral_constant feels a bit cleaner.
 
@Morwenn I wouldn't do it.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Wouldn't do what?
 
@Morwenn But less readable and less elegant from a reading point of view
 
9:45 AM
Inherit from typename std::is_arithmetic<T>::type.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Any specific reason?
 
No benefit.
 
The only difference would be regarding std::is_base_of, but I don't know why anyone would do that.
I wonder whether such a question is off-topic on SO.
 
I'll upvote it.
 
10:00 AM
There we go then...
 
10:13 AM
And here it is. Alea iacta est.
 
10:24 AM
@SpongyFruitcake :( but I was calling you pretty
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes in an odd way, I hope she loses. She won't because Labour don't have their stuff together though.
 
@SpongyFruitcake I've seen this one. It's shiny :D
 
11:33 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes she looks fierce
 
11:50 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes is there a combining mark that flips a character upside-down?
 
@BartekBanachewicz only a set of chars that look like upside down chars: stackoverflow.com/a/2995356/731620
 
12:10 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes I actually think she's made a smart move
Granted... I've not given it huge amounts of thought
 
I just like the DM's headline.
 
it is pretty great
 
12:30 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes it's pretty epic sounding for sure
 
 
1 hour later…
1:33 PM
who did this dog blames dog
 
ScY
1:51 PM
fake
 
2:21 PM
Guise, can I have your opinion on how I should expose a particular API I am designing
 
@Ven Lol
 
@Rerito make some usage code so you have a measure of how insane it is
 
nwp
@Rerito try reddit/r/exhibitionists
 
@ratchetfreak Well, I suspect it's kinda overengineered but heh
 
2:27 PM
several examples of usage code, start with the simple case, and then go more and more complex
if at any point you start pulling out your hair to work with it you know where to start improving
 
Basically, I have a DependencyManager class that maintains a graph of dependencies
And it is responsible for cleaning up the objects in a timely fashion
To do so I need to have a way to mark vertices of the graph as deleted to avoid double frees and unnecessary searches
 
nwp
I was productive today, I implemented function overloading for sol::objects. So much variadic template trickery involved, but it actually works.
 
I would like to know what is the cleanest way to enforce that
I can have a template parameter that handles it, or enforce it through constraints on the VertexProperty type
 
weak_ptr seems the most straightforward
though kinda forces that the vertexes must be in a shared_ptr
 
The VertexProperty object will surely be a little struct that manages actual objects
 
2:35 PM
the identical language across different titles is also something that's VERY familiar to me here in Turkey https://t.co/W7p5usxdGo
 
the other option is to actively remove edges when a vertex gets removed
 
I'll use the filtered_graph adaptor from the BGL to avoid exploring already deleted nodes
 
@rightfold did you just fork all of your company's projects? :P
 
@Abyx IIRC the reports about the banning are inaccurate as nothing has been officially done, from what I read.
 
Can't make a derived instance of ‘Monad (NewLuaM m)’:
  ‘Monad’ is not a derivable class
oh come on
 
> It’s everything feminists hate.
Oh man.
BDSM is quite okay in feminist circles.
Don't know why they would blame "feminism".
Oh, wait, Heatstreet. They gotta whip their favorite boogeyman.
 
Gorean subculture is a fandom based on the philosophy espoused in John Norman's long-running sword and planet novel series Chronicles of Counter-Earth. == Background == Gorean subculture developed independent of Norman's involvement, particularly starting as a fan network after the publishing houses ceased printing new editions of the novels, allegedly due to the controversy and pressure from feminist circles, and Gor books went out of print in the late 1980s. It does not have a uniform following but encompasses different groups of varying views and practices. == Gorean concepts == Alth...
TIL
 
As long as it's consensual, who gives a shit, right.
 
nwp
3:05 PM
title of the day? Maybe the snowman is just sad...
 
@EtiennedeMartel not really, feminism fights against consensual traditional patriarchy
 
@Abyx That's the first time I hear that one. Maybe a few extremists do, but for the most part feminism mostly wants women to have a say in that matter.
The whole "I don't need feminism because I want to stay at home and raise a family" bullshit shows a clear misunderstanding of what feminism is.
Feminism doesn't care if you want to pursue a more traditional role. All it cares is that it was your choice to make, and that it isn't your only option.
 
@EtiennedeMartel but you know that "like a girl" issue? isn't it a consensual behavior?
 
@EtiennedeMartel There is a not small segment of feminists who do not like that choice.
@EtiennedeMartel Not true.
 
Look, all I'm saying is my feminism, the one I identify with and the one that is the majority viewpoint, is inclusive and wants you to have choice.
 
3:10 PM
@EtiennedeMartel yes, they do care about choices, but they also claim that the current culture itself doesn't give a choice
 
I don't see why I have to answer for all the hateful jerks out there who want to enforce their viewpoints on others.
 
@EtiennedeMartel yeah but mainstream feminism appears to be different
 
@Abyx You only hear about feminism through the lens of right wing anti feminist outlets.
 
@EtiennedeMartel wha?
 
Your "mainstream" is radical bullshit. It's not the real world.
 
3:13 PM
@EtiennedeMartel not really. I follow @jalf on twitter and he often reposts quality feminist bullshit, straight from feminists themselves. And of course I don't read any right wing outlets, why would I
 
@Abyx Well you at least read Heatstreet.
 
@EtiennedeMartel I did skim this particular article, but I've never read it before
 
instance Monad ...
    a >>= f = a >>= f
ok I don't understand Haskell or Monads
13
 
I understand nothing
 
@Horttanainen Are you Jon Snow?
 
3:15 PM
@wilx No
 
@EtiennedeMartel also why blame the messenger?
 
@Abyx I'm not blaming you for anything, aside maybe for jumping to conclusions.
If you start from the idea that "feminism is bad", you're always gonna see proof of that everywhere. It's easy to find examples because humans are assholes and feminists are human. My point is "feminism is mostly good" and oh wow I can also find examples of that everywhere.
6
 
@EtiennedeMartel nah, I mean Heatstreet. If the article is correct, does it matter where was it published
@EtiennedeMartel you certainly have a point here
btw, I'd be interested in examples where feminism was actually good
 
@Xeo Oh shit. How long did it take you get there? I guess the silver lining is that now I know not to make the same mistake.
 
What if someone creates a meta post about removing your offensive unclicked rep?
 
Xeo
3:27 PM
@Mysticial foreveeeeeer :P
 
Supposedly getting to 10k is easy if you just abuse the association bonus from the gazillion site. But I'm not sure if it goes away if you delete those accounts.
 
Xeo
I just got it from passive rep
 
Looks like it took you a year?
 
I just got 10 reps and clicked it like a good person.
 
@Mysticial Supposedly getting 10k is easy if you answer a question about branch prediction. Then you just sit there and look at it go up. :P
10
 
3:34 PM
@EtiennedeMartel I think Sturgeon's law still applies. 90% of feminism is crud. But 90% of everything is crud.
 
@EtiennedeMartel If you start with the idea that "feminism is good", you're always gonna see proof of that everywhere. :D
@JohanLarsson :D
 
4:03 PM
Lens is so great
just put LuaMT . zoom _1 $ in front of stuff and bam suddenly you can use a nested context
 
4:14 PM
Var/Type length mismatch:
  [m_a67b]
  []
ghc: panic! (the 'impossible' happened)
  (GHC version 7.10.3 for x86_64-apple-darwin):
	lookupVarEnv_NF: Nothing
@rightfold I broke GHC!
 
Ven
the impossible Unit
 
nwp
4:40 PM
my mapping of capslock -> shift broke somehow and I forgot how I even did that
 
So in other words: The minimum Bounty rises to a maximum minimum where the maximum minimum equals the maximum. — BigM 4 hours ago
 
wat
 
4:59 PM
It looks like Docs finally imploded.
How long did it take?
 
Documentation.SO is dead?
 
Looks alive here.
 
It's "alive", but in the sense of Trump being president when the majority of the population (meta.SO) want it dead.
 
Does it spend its weekends at Mar-a-Lago? xD
 
good question
SE knows internally that Docs is a miserable failure, but they aren't willing to admit that it's a complete loss and aren't willing to accept that they can't salvage it since they put so much time into it. IMO, it's a sunk cost. Accept that it's a complete loss and move on. You can't win all the time. (unless you're Trump :P)
 
nwp
5:15 PM
I remember reading in the comments here that they don't want to publicly say that docs.so is a failure out of respect for their co-workers who work on it.
 
@nwp Yes, he edited the comment to remove that part. But I oneboxed it here before that edit.
 
nwp
oh, that's why I couldn't find it anymore
 
hey, I have a question about answering questions. Is answering someones question by suggesting them to use different library still considered OK?
 
if a question is "how do I do this thing in jQuery" and you answer "use Angular instead, and do this and that", it's not very productive
so don't do that
 
@milleniumbug It is if the question is about , , , etc... :)
 
5:23 PM
@MaxK answer the asked question first, then recommend otherwise. Failing to do so will likely result in downvotes
 
ty all. I want to start and try to answer questions as something that would set me goals and therefore I could learn. But I dont want to run around and cause a mayhem so thank you for your insight
 
You can't cause mayhem when mayhem is the standard and is expected of all users.
@nwp TBH, I think the way Docs is being handled right now is probably a management thing. I've done a number of projects myself both at work and personal. And there have been large projects I worked on and put many hours into that simply didn't work out. And at some point you need to realize that what isn't working out isn't going to work out, and you need stop wasting resources and terminate the project.
This is especially the case with R&D stuff. You really don't know if it's going to work. So you need to learn when to give up when it becomes clear it's not going to work.
From my personal projects, I've terminated probably 2 or 3 "large-scale" experiments (involving 50k+ LOC + many months) when it became clear that it wasn't going to achieve its goals. And I'm about to terminate a 4th one, though I'm gonna let it sit around until Skylake Purely arrives to confirm that it isn't worth continuing.
 
nwp
5:39 PM
Maybe the people responsible haven't just wasted time as it seems, they probably made plans how to fix everything, it just isn't quite done. Especially for something like docs.so which can morph into lots of different things I can see how one would just let it run because it doesn't cost much and the low chance of a miracle reviving docs is worth it.
 
SE/SO has done it correctly when came to subjective questions with the whole programmers.SE and such. And in the end, they nuked the whole thing (programmers.SE became so different from it's original goal that the original was as good as dead).
 
nwp
@Mysticial from what I heard on the SO podcast that was mostly community driven and they have a hard time killing sites because even the failed sites have a core of awesome people who don't hurt anyone and don't cost anything
it is not easy justifying killing sites or even docs
 
@nwp Right, but I don't think Docs is as cheap to keep as the zombie SE sites. Especially since it spills over onto the main site and causes problems there.
I'm on a Zombie SE site myself (A&M). Few people know it exists, and it doesn't cause issues anywhere else.
 
@Mysticial A&M exists solely for its chat
the q&a part is just an extra
 
nwp
they should add a frame around flags, this looks so wrong (source)
 
5:53 PM
why'd you use duckduckgo
 
nwp
@Abyx because results do not depend on search history or which device I'm using
which arguably is a bug, but I like being able to tell people to search for something and not having them see completely different results
 
@nwp yeah and often those results are shit, comparing to google
 
nwp
@Abyx turns out they aren't. I used duckduckgo and when I was unhappy with the results used google instead, but every time google search results were garbage too.
I think it is because when google doesn't know you because you only use it once a month or so it has nothing over duckduckgo.
unless one logs in or has gmail, but I don't have any of that
 
6:07 PM
@jaggedSpire sup
 
6:35 PM
I think ddg still has a lot to be improved.
 
I want to output stuff to the build trace in VS but dunno how.
 
Does std::pair<pod, pod> name; zero-initialize? No right?
 
um
how do I run M1 (StateT (M2 x)) again
oh wait I don't have that state exposed outside
 
@Mysticial Yes.
> Default constructor. Value-initializes both elements of the pair, first and second.
 
oh
thx
 
00:00 - 19:0019:00 - 00:00

« first day (2377 days earlier)      last day (2589 days later) »