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9:10 PM
@milleniumbug Qwertz is default Czech keyboard because of historical accidents. It is an abomination. I hate it when I have to work on somebody else's PC and they have it there.
 
Ven
9:26 PM
@milleniumbug It's hard to forget about azerty ;-)
I use both azerty and qwerty tbh (work-school / home)
 
@wilx the polish versions of windows are provided with two layouts "Polish (programmers')" and "Polish" and the default is the first one, which is QWERTY
thankfully
the second one is QWERTZ
 
@milleniumbug Heh. Nice. We have like 3 there. Czech, Czech QWERTY and Czech (Programmers). I have never used the Programmers variant.
 
the "z is now y" is a common question with IT support because pressing Ctrl+Shift is something that can happen accidentally
but at least we have the sane layout by default
 
9:47 PM
@Borgleader > I don’t think beekeeping is the right hobby for him. He should bee more careful.
 
@jaggedSpire Honey, that stings =/
 
Ayyyy
 
:3
🐝
 
View must be great from up there
 
9:50 PM
@Borgleader Must have been hell to build.
 
That too
 
@Borgleader :o
 
10:05 PM
@Borgleader Watched Dirk Gently? I've read the stuff 5 times over, had no idea they could be viewed as well.
 
@CaptainGiraffe Which one? The UK one or the American one? I have seen both. The American one wasn't bad at all.
 
I'm in the dark here! youtu.be/-kN28ppAtAE?t=6
 
At 8.4 my next weekend is a solid ... Oh. It's really new.
 
Yeah which means if theres a season 2, it'll be a while. RIP.
Speaking of which, still waiting on Season 2 of Stranger Things
 
10:13 PM
I need to talk with my people about this.
 
and Sherlock (I know its playing on TV now but I dont have BBC UK so ... I need to wait for Netflix to get it)
@CaptainGiraffe Your people?
 
Yes my people. The fixers.
I very much like to share stuff with those I have a pre-shared key. The world is only seven keys big :)
 
user1804599
10:38 PM
Lol
 
user1804599
Ubuntu ln man page calls the link destination "source" and the link name "target".
 
user1804599
That's super confusing.
 
@rightfold That's likely historical coming from...the source!
@rightfold At least since 1986, 2.10 BSD: freebsd.org/cgi/…
 
consistent with cp
 
11:02 PM
yeah
One advantage about using about "source" and "target" (as opposed to "source" and "destination") is that "source" and "target" have same length so they line up neatly vertically.
It's a big one for OCD peeps.
 
Ell
I always end up getting confused with source/target, in/out, put/get
When they appear frequently enough
Is an istream something the user can input to or something the programmer can input to? That kind of thing
 
@Borgleader Oh, there's a video about that 9k laptop.
 
11:18 PM
@Ell that one is really unfortunate naming, the only way I don’t get confused by that is from the habit of using std::cout
 
@LucDanton I agree, is std::cout an input or an output from my program?
 
@Mysticial you know those guys have taken using y-cruncher as part of their benchmarking
 
@Mysticial That thing is just ridiculous... Its not portable so just get a damn desktop already.
 
@thecoshman Yeah, a whole bunch of tech reviewers started doing that once I changed the license to explicitly allow tech reviews for profit.
 
Get your shit together people! Uncon IV is hyping up!
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@Mysticial to me though, it sounds stupid... you tweak it so much for specific chips no?
 
11:29 PM
@thecoshman He does?
 
@thecoshman are we now going to decide when and where?
 
@thecoshman Yeah kinda. But I've been doing that for one chip in each generation for all generations going back to 2006-ish.
 
@Mysticial does it at runtime detect the chips? so a modern version can run on on lots?
 
Core 2
Nehalem
Sandy Bridge
Bulldozer
Haswell
Skylake
 
@milleniumbug not right now, but soon
 
11:31 PM
^^ That covers everything except for VIA nano, Knights Landing, AMD Zen, and all the stupid netbook stuff.
 
@Mysticial Is AMD Zen even out yet?
 
@thecoshman Yeah, there's a launcher app that looks at the chip and decides which optimized binary to run.
@Borgleader no
But based on the block diagram of Zen, it's gonna need a new binary. The Haswell and Skylake binaries aren't gonna be efficient.
@Borgleader I like how it needs two power bricks.
 
Ell
My classmate is showing off his dual Xeon 16 core machine -.-
He doesn't even do anything with it, how unfair! :P
 
compiling C++ does count though
 
When I'm refactoring core header files, my CPU stays pinned at 16 threads 100%.
 
Ell
11:43 PM
Eh wait they're X5570s :V
Never mind :D
 
@Mysticial o.O wut.. how
 
@Borgleader If I touch one of the "top-level" headers, it forces all 200+ modules to be recompiled.
And that takes a few minutes on my 8-core Haswell.
 
Jeez
 
Okay, maybe not a few minutes...
But still long enough that I'd rather not have to wait.
I swear it used to be longer than that. But I spent some time a few months back to slim down the include dependencies.
IOW, I don't need to pull <Windows.h>, or <immintrin.h> into everything.
 
Theres a tool to help you do that (or did you mean you spent time refactoring things so there is less dependencies?)
 
11:54 PM
Even <functional> pulls in an infinite number of other std and system headers.
@Borgleader Refactoring.
 
@Mysticial np there I can help you add all the minutes you want
 
Most of it involved moving includes from headers to .cpp files.
And making whatever changes necessary to make that possible. (i.e. pimpl, forward declaration, etc...)
 
nwp
this broodwar AI thing is really cool
 
The biggest gain is perhaps forward declaring incomplete types when I don't need the full definition.
 
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