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00:01
Anonymous
Apparently, this user prefers to keep an air of mystery about them.
There are just a few tens of people trying my site. I really appreciate you guys being reasonable.
good UTC midnight, Lounge! How were your days?
Can you please answer my question its urgent I am unable to find the answer on google...I want to use typedef and declare the variable in same line = ) "How can I use typedef in struct and also declare a variable ??"
user1804599
No.
user1804599
Ask it on Stack Overflow.
00:08
^
@Anonymous Easy. Put it on the same line.
Pretend like the enter key doesn't exist.
haa ok... so its not possible ??
@ElimGarak Well wouldn't that just suck.
@Anonymous struct {typedef void a;}; int i;
00:10
@Anonymous like typedef struct MyFuckedUpShit{} myFuckinDeclaredHump;?
user1804599
@fredoverflow Flash :(
ok.. ;(
@Nooble Springfield is awesome
fuck
00:11
@ScottW Fucking don't
@ScottW you're on moombel?
how do I revert github to the old design
the new design is a downgrade =/
@набиячлэвэлиь Won't help if they attack.
@ScottW Don't talk to trolls
@Nooble Who is 'they'?
@ScottW Of course not
@набиячлэвэлиь ISIS.
Oh that's just a ping.
00:12
@Nooble snort
Not a reply.
@GregorMcGregor man I just got the new GH design
it sucks :(
What new design?
waaaay too wide, and I have to scroll to the top to get the tab buttons
00:13
Looks the same to me.
I use a custom theme so it didn't hit me yet
@jaggedSpire lets go join him :D /cc @TonyTheLion
@orlp Press Home butan on kibord
@Borgleader I am so jealous of that dog
@набиячлэвэлиь so I have to move my hands from the mouse to the keyboard to press home, then back to the mouse to get the old functionality I always had?
@orlp Oh.
@Rapptz Happened to me as well
@orlp You use mouse two-handed?
@набиячлэвэлиь I don't move my left hand to the right side of the keyboard generally
@набиячлэвэлиь ... You don't?
00:15
@набиячлэвэлиь this is the worst
@набиячлэвэлиь I mean
@Rapptz I just went through all the places I could get a notification on and it worked
@набиячлэвэлиь parkinson is a serious disease you unsensitive fuck
@Nooble My mouse is not your mother
@orlp what.
@набиячлэвэлиь A hand for each button.
00:16
@orlp I can't see the new interface :/ guess I'm in the A group
@набиячлэвэлиь that is a lot of repositories
@VillasV be happy
@orlp How'd we get here from me asking you for how you handle your mouse?
@orlp Don't you like it? Someone here said it was a little bit better.
@VillasV it's a downgrade
00:17
@Rapptz Press "mark all as read", mebbe?
the tab buttons (releases, wiki, etc) have been moved from the side to the top
@набиячлэвэлиь He's a spider with Parkinson's.
Or check "all notifications" and go through the newest ones
@набиячлэвэлиь the joke is that people with parkinsons need to use both hands to stabilize their mouse
@orlp Oh that sucks
00:18
@orlp that's how it was originally lol
@orlp Would only worsen the effect IMO
not only does that mean you can only click those buttons when you're at the top of the page
when people moved it to the side people complained
it also makes the listing page wider
so now they moved it back and people still complain etc
I think the new design is okay.
Makes better use of space.
00:19
waaaay too wide, and I have to scroll to the top to get the tab buttons
Hmm, yeah looks a little bit too wide.
What is the new design you are all complaining about?
@Rapptz Nothing a simple usertheme couldn't do
@Ramy That site is blocked by general principles.
@набиячлэвэлиь They should make it toggleable.
00:21
@Nooble sure
like
all the other stuff is fine n shit
I just don't like the tabs to the top
I think the wider area is beneficial for the wiki and discussions and longer commit messages. But it still feel a bit odd a wider README :P
How do I know the anonymous is not a hoax ... I mean I know most probably it isn't. But I would assume there would be members of anonymous frequent this chat, being one of the largest chats dedicated to the software developer/engineers.
See if I get a url ending in a .jpg. I'm actually expecting an image/jpg response. If I get a 300 I'm thinking sod off.
:)
safe and sound
00:26
I'm getting better at this
Oh fuck it.
When the new design gets here I just hope my dank theme doesn't break
@Nooble No why should that be the default? I'm asking for image/* 0.9 and all I get as reply is "Fuck you"
I hear about anonymous and ISIS all the times, but I see none of the either in real life. Sure, they don't write their allegiance on their face, but still, given the amount of people who I come across over the years. The chance of me not running into any is very small.
00:30
@sehe incredulous expression wow. Thank you for cleaning up the place! :)
@chmod666telkitty I am Anonymous.
I am #1 best hacker.
@Nooble Still cannot into git, though
@Nooble Not anymore! doxes
user1804599
@fredoverflow Softwareentwicklung 1, and already confusing people with mutability and overloading. :(
IIT @Elyse is mutable.
Hy, może mutas z Czarnobyla jakiś
00:37
@jaggedSpire You sound like an Elcor
@Borgleader <3
@jaggedSpire Did you actually get that reference? o.o
Because while I meant it as a joke its not exactly <3
@Borgleader no. My train of thought went: I don't know that reference -> better respond anyhow -> <3's fine -> enter
:P
because I appreciate you, even when you make references I don't get :)
also, get on Mumble. We're all pretending the others don't exist and it's loads of fun
Elcors are a fictional race, and they cant verbally express well mood/emotions so they preface their sentences with things like "sincere astonishment, ..." or "genuine relieft, ..." and you just said incredulous expression wow.
that is all :)
sorry for the long explanation, heres a friendly platypus
00:43
@Borgleader Oh, like HK-47!
@jaggedSpire in a minute, ive yet to take a shower since i got home
@Borgleader yay!
@jaggedSpire Yes just like that, but theyre not killer robots :)
@Borgleader awh
big thing on the right, is an elcor
the guy next to him is a turian ("like me" :P)
00:45
ah.
you should play Mass Effect some day
I'll get sucked in and won't surface for weeks though
thank you dark net
Practicing

This is the part that’s going to make you rage or proove you worthy. If you can’t succeed on your own, try again or get the fuck out.

If you use Windows or OSX you need to learn Ubuntu. Download VirtualBox, which allow you to run a computer in your computer and install Ubuntu in it.
user406009
@chmod666telkitty The hilarious part is that they only need Python.
user406009
Which is installed on OSX by default.
00:55
lol
scripting kiddies
user406009
Does anyone know how Java lambda's internally work on here?
user406009
In particular, do they carry references to the enclosing class?
user406009
Well, I guess I should probably ask on SO ...
you came to the right neighborhood /cc @Borgleader @TonyTheLion
@Lalaland Java lambdas are fucked up good
00:59
@jaggedSpire motherduckers
@Morwenn :D
@Morwenn Since you mentioned you're not that huge a fan of Red Pandas, I've made an effort not to cc you on Red Panda links. Is that what you want, or do you want the Firefox Barrage?
@jaggedSpire Generally speaking I prefer to catch the cute image on the fly rather than to be notified anyway :p
@Morwenn oh, okay. :) I was doing it to avoid filling your messages with chat links to red pandas, anyhow.
user406009
Of course the Java standard is worthless for answering questions like this ...
That's so nice of you :3
@Lalaland Wasn't it like bigger than the C++ standard?
01:04
@jaggedSpire Oh my god. Are those what firefoxes (firefices?) are?!
Nooooooo wayyyyy
@Nooble it's the origin of the name firefox, but the Firefox logo is actually a flaming fox. ~the more you know~
@jaggedSpire How much for your cheapest accomodations and a daily ration of snuggling?
@Nooble I prefer Flammegewehrs to Flammefuchs
@Borgleader 69 pandolla$$
@набиячлэвэлиь Programaweenie.
user406009
01:06
@набиячлэвэлиь Do you accept payment in SO rep?
@Borgleader The going rate is 3 hours of pets/night. They also take apple slices. :3
@Lalaland If panda dollars are directly convertible thereto, sure
@набиячлэвэлиь That looks cool.
@Nooble Meh, you didn't get it
@набиячлэвэлиь What? Your laem joke?
Yes I know it's a weapon.
01:07
@Morwenn It's fapping material
I think.
This fuccboi, I'm tellin' ya
@jaggedSpire How about slices of apple pie? Apple pie is the best
@Nooble Gewehr = rifle, Flamme = flame, Fuchs = fox
Piece it together
@Borgleader oooh. I prefer a bit of tart with my sweet, myself. :)
01:08
Kitty software dev :)
@Borgleader has heart attack
@Borgleader Still better dev than most gamedevs
@jaggedSpire resuscitates
@Borgleader Shhhh, don't tell kitty.
@набиячлэвэлиь thank you
@jaggedSpire No, sir!
01:09
Its little toes must be so warm on that laptop! :3
@jaggedSpire I want those paws on me :o
and I bet it would give the best snuggles on a cold winter's night: a little warm ball of fluff on your chest.
@Morwenn so dainty and soft
user406009
If only pets didn't require so much time, money and space.
01:17
@Lalaland exactly :-/
I really wanted to have a big dog, but I can't even feed myself properly
@VillasV I can relate. Not for the big dog though.
Hey guys? Just wondering if you guys could help me with a conceptual question - it's been bothering me for a bit.
It's about stack memory and array initialization:
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@OneRaynyDay Feel free to ask.
@OneRaynyDay You return a pointer to a function-local variable. That's undefined behaviour.
01:20
Here I declared an array with 100 size in one of the functions, and I returned the pointer of the start of the array
The array gets destroyed at the end of the function, it has local scope
user406009
@OneRaynyDay What's your specific question?
Ahhh okay... That's so strange. How can I retain the array then?
user406009
Use the new operator.
user406009
Or a std::vector (which is better)
01:22
new operator? I see :)
user406009
So new operator allocates onto the heap?
user406009
However, please use std::vector.
user406009
@OneRaynyDay Yep.
@LucDanton @GregorMcGregor Suddenly, GW2 drama?
user406009
01:22
Avoid using new at all costs though.
^You're right. But this is for a cs class where we never learned vectors
Remember that if you allocate something dynamically you have the responsibility of destroying it later with delete.
That's one reason you should avoid that, because forgetting or doing this wrong is very common.
user406009
Yes, you should also look into std::unique_ptr and std::shared_ptr.
user406009
Handling raw pointers and manually deleting is heavily looked down upon in modern C++.
I see - we're doing more C-style
Our professor is extremely low-level, so he made us do like, C-strings before std strings, etc
user406009
That's pretty stupid. But I can totally understand the need to do whatever it takes to graduate.
user406009
The reason why it is foolish is because most C++ abstractions are 0 overhead.
user406009
So doing many things the C way is mostly pointless.
@OneRaynyDay Bring him here.
@Lalaland And unfortunately not pointerless.
01:28
LOL. I get this everytime I ask a question here - and yes I understand. He's been teaching for like 20 years now
I think it's time for a change
our school only teaches C++ for like all lower-divs, no python or any intuitive languages.
user406009
That's also pretty dumb.
more like C in disguise of C++.
user406009
@OneRaynyDay Yeah, that's a pretty common trend.
Right? I don't like this to be honest. I think honestly it's better to go from python down to more low-level
user406009
The main issue is that C++ in general is a very complicated language to use correctly.
01:32
I'm going to sleep. Bye ^_^
@Morwenn Night!
@Rapptz lol
user406009
@OneRaynyDay The core problem is that people don't like change.
user406009
Once you have gotten used to teaching something a certain way, it is very easy to stick with it.
user406009
Especially when you start getting into things like tenure.
user406009
01:34
I mean, just look at the whole Python2 vs Python3 mess.
@Lalaland I totally get you. I interned at a place that used python2
but they demanded migration to python3 while they used wxPython which
does not support python3 for half of its GUI's....
I didn't know how to explain it to them otherwise but they were very disappointed in me when I told them that.
user406009
Well, it's sorta hard to deal with.
user406009
People will always tend to act in their short term best interest.
user406009
And it's almost always in the individual's short term best interest to stay steady.
RyuJIT now supported on Linux and OS X, including JIT and crossgen
amaze
01:41
@jaggedSpire im hungry
@Borgleader :D
how are they so cute?
I blame witchcraft. Aaaand now I'm imagining one in a witch costume, with a little pointed hat balanced between its two fuzzy, adorable ears.
user406009
There are a couple of interesting theories about cuteness.
user406009
I think the most convincing one is that things which look like human babies are "cute".
but human babies don't look cute at all
user406009
Which actually makes a lot of sense from an evolutionary psychology standpoint.
01:48
maybe people generally consider fluffy creatures as 'cute', human babies are ... bald
Working on a black guy today, kinda not sure where it is going
are you a prostitute? 'working' on a black guy?
@ElimGarak out of context that sounds pretty weird. I assume you're still modelling stuffs?
I think he could pass as a black person eventually, given the structure of the face. When uncertain, make lips puckier.
user406009
01:52
Seems like something to post to /r/creepy
@fredoverflow Is there a subbed version? :P
Here's a 1200 bytes class with 130 fields
what is proper design
@GregorMcGregor ur mum
@GregorMcGregor ok for a header only class ... assume by field you mean variables?
user406009
02:00
130 fields is never ok.
user406009
1200 bytes might be fine.
user406009
Arg, some people need to learn that just because you can do something doesn't mean you should.
user406009
Certain degrees of hacks are not worth it.
02:20
@Lalaland Remembers of that saying "If it works, it ain't stupid", which is usually said by stupid people that work.
I'm creating a Text based RPG about the seasons... any storyline plot ideas?
user406009
What does it even mean to be "about the seasons"?
@AndrewTew Seasons?
user406009
Do you have characters named after the seasons? Like there is a guy named Fall. And you have to beat all the seasons to win?
user406009
With each season having corresponding abilities/costumes.
02:25
@Mysticial could you explain line 3?
God of Seasons
why does it zero out xmm1 if it stores to it in line 6
jesus AT&T syntax
well you can click intel syntax at the top right
if you prefer
@AndrewTew You could make a story about a person who finds his life--his emotions, his mood--is tied to the seasons. He comes to the conclusion that with winter, he will grow sick and die.
02:27
%rip
user406009
@AndrewTew Or how about a survival game where the player has to survive through the seasons?
user406009
With very extreme versions of seasonal weather?
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Lounge<ShittyGameIdeas>
@Mysticial ah figured it out, the instruction uses the high part of xmm1, so it needs to be zero
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@orlp If you don't mind me asking, what does magicround do?
02:32
@Lalaland magic :)
@AndrewTew He lies on his death bed, grown weak and skin gray, where he realizes that death matters not as much as life. For in his (short) life, he has raised his daughter Summers.
basically it pushes the integer part of the float to the lower 32 bits
@Lalaland google 6755399441055744
user406009
Oh I see. Cool. It's a quick way to turn a double into an integer.
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Q: A fast method to round a double to a 32-bit int explained

Yu HaoWhen reading Lua's source code, I noticed that Lua uses a macro to round a double to a 32-bit int. I extracted the macro, and it looks like this: union i_cast {double d; int i[2]}; #define double2int(i, d, t) \ {volatile union i_cast u; u.d = (d) + 6755399441055744.0; \ (i) = (t)u.i[END...

02:52
@orlp You have a Broadwell chip?
@Mysticial nah
I heard those are rare. :)
just chose something that has tons of features
Well for the game, I have decided for a continent to be split up between 4 permanent seasons and a main character has to stop (conflict/plot insert here)

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