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9:00 PM
@sehe .... It... it's real. It actually happened.
 
user1804599
@JohanLarsson You copy or move it when passing it, so it's not a problem that it's mutable.
 
I mean, not everyone fell for it but there are indeed pictures with piss running down people's clothes.
 
@elyse I guess, still think I want to write the type in a way that says it is immutable
not rely on remembering things
 
user1804599
No, that makes no sense in Rust.
 
user1804599
There's no need to.
 
user1804599
9:01 PM
Rust isn't C#. Not all values are pointers to objects.
 
@elyse Concurrency is not the only reason for immutability
 
user1804599
I know, and I wasn't talking about concurrency.
 
51 mins ago, by Johan Larsson
@elyse I think I will never understand languages as I have not suffered c/c++
qed
 
Is this related to the operation Fourth Wave of Feminism?
 
... Fourth Wave wha?
 
9:02 PM
And bikini bridge, which happened nearly at the same time?
 
@Morwenn Fourth Wave? Bikini Bridge? What?
 
sooo ended the movie
man was it good
I have surprising luck with movies lately
 
@Borgleader 4chan trolling feminists.
 
user1804599
@JohanLarsson Ok so, the problem with mutability is that someone changes something and someone else notices that change.
 
user1804599
In Rust, you cannot do that. It's forbidden.
 
9:04 PM
@JohanLarsson It’s the other way around. You have to remember when you want to mutate, you can’t do it by accident.
 
user1804599
is.gd/srsTky < if Rust allowed this, then f would be surprised as changing *x suddently affects *y. But it doesn't. C++ does, causing bugs.
 
In addition the compiler is helpful in telling you when you have redundant muts in your code.
 
i often don't like new movies
 
> A force of magnitude 0.500mg
 
@JohanLarsson pff
 
9:05 PM
@elyse ah, that is pretty explicit feels a little better now
 
... You can't have a force of half a milligram
WTF is this book smoking?
 
@Morwenn oh... 4chan =/
 
@ThePhD it's not gram, it's g; as in earth's g
 
@BartekBanachewicz having trouble parsing that
 
> cc1plus.exe: out of memory allocating 65536 bytes
ಠ_ಠ
 
9:06 PM
Letter 'p', letter 'f', letter 'f'
Strong ironicat there
 
@ThePhD or maybe your book just sucks. You never know.
 
@melak47 VC++ \o/
 
user1804599
It also has optimisation advantages, as the compiler can assume there's no aliasing going on. :3
 
@BartekBanachewicz q_q
 
ok, maybe it is my lexing that sucks
 
9:06 PM
@ThePhD gcc :(
 
But 0.500m * g is... not a force
 
@JohanLarsson it's not as C or C++ are particularly interesting from a PL analysis standpoint
 
user1804599
@JohanLarsson it's a textual fart
 
I'm just gonna assume they fucked up and say its 0.500 N
 
Ell
@ThePhD it is
F = MA
M = 0.500m
 
9:07 PM
@ThePhD if m means "some mass m" then "some mass" times "0.5" times "g" is a force.
 
Ell
A = g
 
@BartekBanachewicz Sure they are
 
g is not a force, it's an acceleration.
 
@BartekBanachewicz Without knowing my feeling is that if one has suffered one knows what problems other languages solve.
 
as Ell correctly states.
 
9:08 PM
@BartekBanachewicz you have no idea how tedious working to get gamma correct rendering is :\
 
@elyse haha
 
... But there's no mass given.
 
mass doesn't matter.
 
@JohanLarsson right, they solve problems that don't even exist in the other languages
 
all bodies feel the same acceleration due to gravity.
 
9:08 PM
@ThePhD then give your answer not in numbers, but relative to m?
 
oh sure, in principle it's easy to do, but actually working through all the shit I have to fix up to get that simple thing...
 
@Puppy but not the same force
 
Sob.
 
you shouldn't have called yourself "ThePhD", you poor fuck
 
indeed not.
 
9:09 PM
I can dream. ;~;
 
unfortunately, it's IME not that uncommon for people to incorrectly mix weight and force.
 
@Puppy well, acceleration due to gravity, which is directly related to mass
 
@ThePhD download MathCad and us the trial. Unit aware calculations, extremely useful for an engineer.
 
@Puppy IME people are dumb
 
@ThePhD Not sure. At least some pissed responses (pun intended) actually happened. Not sure the whole thing is not just well-orchestrated hoax
 
9:09 PM
@ThePhD Even I know it is and I'm like 15
 
if somebody tries to give you "a force of 5g", say, I would usually extrapolate a force of 0.005kg * g.
 
@BartekBanachewicz IME you're inexcusably intolerant
 
a lot of truisms going on
 
@Ell mass is 0.5 meters?
 
@sehe hey, that's not your opinion!
 
9:10 PM
m is a variable not a unit
Write it as gm/2 and problem solved
 
@thecoshman IME, not IMO
 
^
Thank you Barekt :) Saving me the toruble
 
Ell
@CatPlusPlus lol that is even worse
 
Is that too much. Mmm. edited
 
Ell
9:11 PM
(earths gravity * m) / 2
oh wait
Ignore me :3 my mistake
 
@BartekBanachewicz I didn't say it was :P
 
Gravity constant is G you bute
 
m1 would have made it unambiguous
 
@sehe Everytime you look at the lounge, it looks at you.
 
I'm just going to assume its m for some unknown mass.
It's the only thing that makes sense and doesn't insert units they didn't write.
 
Ell
9:12 PM
@CatPlusPlus there are two gravitational constants
well
 
@BartekBanachewicz No problem at all
 
(I hope you appreciate the paraphrase. I thought it was very clever)
 
Ell
G = 6.67408... × 10-11 m3 kg-1 s-2
g = -9.81...
 
@Ell No, the other one is not a constant, it is variable in Earth's gravitational field, the acceleration.
The average is 9.80665 meters per second squared.
 
I make mistakes. Sometimes I can explain them to myself.
 
Ell
9:12 PM
@ElimGarak true
thanks
 
@BartekBanachewicz It was sure clever. I'm not sure it has any side-effects
 
@Ell G is literally called 'gravitational constant'
 
Ell
yeah I'm bad
 
@sehe don't worry, I have them coming. Sometimes half-consciously.
I've noticed I'm very irritated here lately
 
(shall I say it)
@BartekBanachewicz Would you agree that you've seen that pattern before?
 
9:14 PM
duh
 
user1804599
What's up, G?
 
No. That's down (actually, the constant is directionless)
 
hihihi
I don't want to go on a hiatus again
 
sulk in a corner instead
 
will do. in a rusty old corner.
 
9:16 PM
Good night peeps
 
user1804599
@sehe see you in ten minutes
 
Wat wat sehe in the butt nite <3
 
chuckles
I need a shower as well. Nighty night.
 
Night
 
@elyse I'm not that quick anymore. Age discount please
 
9:16 PM
I think he smells like apple blossom
 
user1804599
-10% * 0 = 0
 
user1804599
there's your discount
 
I think sehe smells like boost spirit
13
 
user1804599
lol
 
9:17 PM
badum tss
Man, Somersby is delicious.
 
Sauna + shower >> shower btw
 
Pushups ftw.
 
@ElimGarak If I could understand what spirit actually does, or how it does it, I'd be all over this with the puns
 
The Rust thing is stealth
 
Lockheed SRust-71 Blackbird
 
9:30 PM
does rust have await?
 
Does it have the tadpole operators?
 
await elyse
 
user1804599
No. But there's no need.
 
user1804599
github.com/dpc/mioco is being developed, solving the async problem.
 
evening fellas
 
user1804599
9:38 PM
evening falafel
 
@TonyTheLion sum of my days <3
 
I'm sure it'll be great to use without language support
 
user1804599
What will?
 
@Borgleader <3 <3 How are you?
 
user1804599
9:39 PM
It implements green threads. You don't need language support.
 
@TonyTheLion well well, and you?
 
user1804599
Fuck concurrency without green threads.
 
@Borgleader yea I'm alright.
you'll never guess what I did the entire day?
 
Sleep?
 
Ell
9:41 PM
fap?
 
refactoring code for work
 
Ell
Oh wow
 
refucktoring
 
Interesting, I'm refactoring code for fun. Can you really get paid to do this?
 
9:42 PM
at least I got a lot done
 
@Mikhail You do not want to refactor the kind of code Tony is refactoring
@TonyTheLion Any QuadrupleStarPorngrammars?
 
@Mikhail I do not get paid for overtime.
@AnalPhabet no, it wasn't C++ code, but C#.
 
@TonyTheLion Any QuadrupleCaretPorngrammars?
 
hahahhaha
 
(caret = ^, and yes, I had to look that up)
 
user1804599
9:44 PM
#define THREE *
#define STAR *
#define PROGRAMMER *

double THREE STAR PROGRAMMER x;
4
 
oh my
 
@Morwenn p good
 
Huh, XCode introduced vector graphics support for interfaces since the last time I toyed with it.
 
@elyse double three star programmer? so he holds two three star programmer awards?
 
user1804599
The six-star programmer.
 
9:52 PM
@JohanLarsson Glad you like it :)
 
Ell
Okay I need advice guise
The online assignment submission website is down - should I email my work to the professor directly?
 
yep
 
Ell
okay coolio
 
@Ell but use PGP
 
Ell
I suppose I should attempt to finish it first
 
9:56 PM
else he might be able to read it :D
 
@Morwenn I try to click on the stuff you link, there are gems in the flood of power metal :)
 
@JohanLarsson The flood of power metal? I feel like I mostly share electro ^^"
 
@Ell are you still up for our meet next week?
 
maybe, dunno
 
Ell
@TonyTheLion What was the date again?
 
9:58 PM
@Ell 10th
 
Ell
Yeah, sounds good
 
user1804599
sleeptime
 
Ell
I haven't bought a ticket yet
 
user1804599
byebyebye!
 
user1804599
three-bye programmer
 
Ell
9:59 PM
but I will tomorrow probably
 
@elyse don't block
 
Good night :)
 
Captain's log, stardate 44995.3. We are en route to the Klingon homeworld, where I will participate in the installation ceremony of Gowron, the next designated Leader of the High Council. This visit should also provide an opportunity for one of my officers to correct a grave injustice.
 
@Ell ok well lemme know
 
Ell
Will do :)
 
10:00 PM
:)
 
a moth has entered my living room
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOPPEEEEEEEE
 
burn it with phasor fire
 
Ell
if you were writing a report on a project, what would you call the bit which shows which goals you fulfilled?
 
results?
climax?
 
10:02 PM
Disgrace
 
Ell
results I guess
though I got barely any :L
I think I'll write a postmortem section
 
thats morbid
 
Ell
haha
Fonts are a mess in latex :S
 
@Ell not everyone likes to wear latex
 
@Ell In papers, it's usually called Results
@Borgleader You still watch The Final Bosman?
 
10:15 PM
sometimes
 
Looks like a bug, we'll be looking into it. @melak47 - if you see more issues in VS2015 please send them in through the smile or Connect. — Lukasz Mendakiewicz 6 mins ago
wow, MS people asking me to submit more bugs on connect, on SO!
 
user406009
@melak47 They probably recognize you by now.
 
@Lalaland Oh no, that guy again
 
@Lalaland they should, hes captain of the enterprise
 
Apparently the guy works on intellisense, and I just called intellisense stupid in the comment he's replying to. Guess my bug reports are now going to the bottom of the backlog :p
 
10:23 PM
at least it's not shit as the one in xcode
 
I could have been nicer I guess. Basically, what I wanted to say was "intellisense and VC++ are always out of sync, so I don't bother with intellisense errors" :p
 
> There's money in minigolf?
top kek, Aubrey expression is priceless
 
> Memoization: storage grows with the number of NaN requests.
 
does using conditions in the order of (# > # || # < # && # > # || # < #) work as a "condition" to throw an error, or is it too many conditions in one if statement?
 
what.
by "work" do you mean "can I do this" or "should I do this"
 
10:33 PM
can I do this as a condition: (weight >= 51 || weight < 0 && dist <= 9 || dist > 3000) or is it too many conditions?
 
user1804599
Maybe I should throw my girl shirt into the laundry basket.
 
@CMS_95 why don't you try it and see?
 
user1804599
Then it'll be quite obvious.
 
@CMS_95 did you run out of parenthesises?
 
@elyse I almost did that at some point.
 
user1804599
10:35 PM
Why almost?
 
I have but I also have 2 other if statements using the 2 sets of " or " conditions and the out put is always one or the other even if both are false
 
@CMS_95 : 1 + 2 * 3 + 4
 
user406009
@CMS_95 I usually find that most of these problems go away when I add sufficient parenthesis.
 
@elyse In the end, I washed my crop top with the rest, hanged everything to dry outside, then showed a photo of me crossdressed to my father telling him that if he was wondering who the clothes belonged to, they were mine.
 
user1804599
Lol
 
user406009
10:38 PM
C++'s order of operations table is just too complex.
 
user1804599
I crossdress every day :[
 
I almost never crossdress :(
 
I figured I must be missing something thanks all
 
user1804599
Almost 24/7
 
Am I crossdressing while nude?
 
10:39 PM
 
user1804599
Nude is a unisex costume.
 
@elyse I wish I could do that and it always looked good.
 
user1804599
I think you don't get it :p
 
Oh xD
Now I get it :p
 
@Morwenn How'd that work out for you?
 
user1804599
10:41 PM
Ohh ThePhD shows interest. We can only conclude one thing from that!
 
@ThePhD Not too bad. I think he doesn't care as long as I'm happy.
 
user1804599
Lounge<Transgender>
 
user1804599
We don't hang stuff to dry
 
user1804599
We have a drying machine
 
10:46 PM
I guess it will only do one or the other but not both
 
user1804599
Transfer from washing to drying machine should be automated though. And also filtering and taking from basket to machine. The whole pipeline.
 
I have to assimilate the whole galaxy
:)
 
I guess my parents could have found photos of me without actually knowing it was me in the photos.
 
@Morwenn Did you accidentally a word there?
 
Yeah, I often words.
 
10:49 PM
@Borgleader That ends up in disappointment 100% of the time
 
user1804599
Hi Cat 😍😍😍😘😘
 
A cat barfed on my bed this morning.
 
user1804599
💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩
 
@Morwenn Is that considered good luck?
 
user1804599
What is barfing? Is it like barking? Because a barking cat is really weird.
 
10:53 PM
@Borgleader Barfing is puking.
 
user1804599
:[
 
Purfing would be a good word, but I don't think it exists.
Or purrfing since it was a cat.
 
user1804599
How about "vomiting" or "puking"?
 
Two of my dogs have learned to use the floor drain for puking.
 
@elyse I just saved thousand of beginners millions of hours of debugging time ;)
if (condition.expression is Assignment) {
    lexer.error("a=b means 'copy the value of b into a'. You probably mean to write a==b instead.")
}
 
10:53 PM
@Morwenn I know
> Bird poop brings good luck! There is a belief that if a bird poops on you, your car or your property, you may receive good luck and riches. The more birds involved, the richer you’ll be! So next time a bird poops on you, remember that it’s a good thing.
so yknow, cat barf on bed could be too :P
 
Rats cannot puke iirc.
 
@Borgleader Soory, didn't meant to ping you ^^"
 
user1804599
@fred ddont make it an error. Make it a warning
 
@elyse Beginners don't give shit about warnings.
 
The only good news is that it wasn't on my bed since I slept at my sister's. So it wasn't my duty to clean the mess.
 
user1804599
10:55 PM
Vlinder won't have this problem. Because there is no assignment. :) = compares and == doesn't exist.
 
Is everything immutable?
 
user1804599
Well ok there are mutable cells, like OCaml ref. With functions called 'get' and 'set'.
 
@elyse What is Vlinder?
 
user1804599
My programming language.
 
user1804599
 
10:59 PM
I love how the description feels like a reference to APL :p
 
> Rename Mill to Vlinder to avoid confusion with certain CPU architectures
ah
 
Sutter's Vlinder
 
@fredoverflow Or deferred it until they run into it while in the wild, whereupon the lesson will finally stick.
 
user1804599
-- mutable verbibol
let x = ref(1)
set(x, 2)
debug.trace(get(x)) -- prints "2"
 
user1804599
11:07 PM
If you do if(set(c, true), 1, 2) then you get a type error, since set returns () but if takes a logic.T.
 
user1804599
Reasoning: CQS.
 
Ell
I did my assignment report and emailed in
but boy the actual programme is so incomplete
 
you're very loyal to CQS
 
user1804599
Eww! Assignments suck!
 
Ell
I did quick-learn some latex though
I'm glad I have XeTeX
 
11:28 PM
I never know which way tension is supposed to go. .-.
 
Ell
tension is pulling shit
 
So I've figured.
Doesn't make this stupid freebody diagram any easier.
 
Ell
ie if a body is hanging from gallows, tension acts upwards
(on the body)
 
how can I set the number of digits after the decimal? I have tried set-precision(2);
 
@Morwenn libVlinder
 
11:39 PM
I'm going to sleep ._____.
 
Ell
@Morwenn night
 
Night.
Sleep tight.
Don't let the ascending arrays bite.
 
Thanks, you too ^_^
(If you ever sleep, that is)
 
I am alive!
 
The hurricane didn't kill you?
 
11:43 PM
@ThePhD No! nor did the third delayed flight in three days!
:D
 
Amazing.
 
@Morwenn Thank you. <3
 
@jaggedSpire My pleasure ♥
Seriously, I can't even English anymore. See you later!
 
@Morwenn see you
@ThePhD so, about them maps?
 
11:46 PM
I'm sorry.
I can't hear you over the sound of Linear Algebra and Physics and Music Humanities.
 
@ThePhD shrug Okay. If you ever feel like an explanation, I can give you one, and hopefully do better than your prof in comprehensibility.
 
Hehehe, shug.
Is that like a combination hug and shrug?
 
@Borgleader So cute!
 
Aww, you fixed it.
 
@ThePhD fixed. I'm not sure that a shug would be.
maybe a shoggoth/pug hybrid.
 
Ell
11:50 PM
 
Sounds horrifying.
 
Ell
uhhhh lordy
this is the best rice I've seen
 
@Ell Is that a laptop.
 
Ell
no idea
 
It is, laptop processor and DDR3L ram.
Could also be one of those Intel NUCs.
@jaggedSpire shitty hug.
 
11:58 PM
What'd be a good key for 'reset to defaults' binding
 
@Nooble I prefer the combination of a eldritch abomination and a small dog
@CatPlusPlus ctrl-s
 
No combos
Also no
 
@CatPlusPlus ~
 
@Ell that looks neat
@CatPlusPlus F5
 
user406009
@CatPlusPlus None. That would be a pretty shitty thing to do accidentally.
 
Ell
11:59 PM
@CatPlusPlus F12
 
I am also of that opinion
 
Is the point of that binding that you can rebind it… once? :v
 
what kind of defaults are we talking?
 
Ell
@Rapptz it does doesn't it?
 

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