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9:00 PM
Oh sorry, because earlier when I was claiming that he was talking about God you were like "What?".
Ok, so, what does he talk about other than 1) God 2) EVIL POSSESSIONS?
 
I don't think that "God is ridiculous" is accurate summary.
 
Fucking finally fixed the fucking root on that fucking phone
 
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ "The world is a freak show" comes close
Humans keep themselves limited.
 
Fucking week-long ordeal
 
So what?
What does that even mean
 
9:02 PM
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ He's not wrong
 
I'm limiting myself because I want to believe that God sends us to Hell if we do something wrong?
 
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ You know. That makes me want to stop trying to talk with you.
 
That's limiting myself?
 
Yeah because then you have no fun with life
 
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ You asked that before. Is it not allowed to say it?
 
9:03 PM
@sehe What's "it" there?
 
@CatPlusPlus I guess? but that's a personal opinion and to force it on someone else is a bit arrogant
 
And what did I ask before?
 
Getting so upset smells of "kill the witch" for me
 
@CatPlusPlus Yeah because fun is totally objective.
 
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ I'll stop.
 
9:04 PM
It's not like people like different things.
@sehe Of course you do
 
The only criterion of truth is measurement. Everything else is an indulgence.
 
If you stop being able to link your own direct messages to my responses, I'm out.
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ Cheap shot, bro.
 
Yeah, it's not possible that you are being cryptic as usual.
No, that never happened, right?
 
Calm down. Bye
 
I find it hilarious when sehe writes "bro" because I imagine him saying it.
 
9:05 PM
use the reply button if you want to keep a conversation thread sane
 
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ It's not what religions do for sure
 
How do you know that?
 
Hey, maybe people love "limiting" themselves with that "religious bullshit".
Maybe they prefer that, it makes them happy.
 
9:06 PM
Hey, maybe people are morons
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ Uhh having to stomach this bullshit for 18ish years?
 
Yeah, your experience with religion is very relevant to how people might like religion.
 
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ Hah. You finally embraced it. Yes. This is exactly on point.
 
Heroin makes heroin addicts happy too
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Doesn't mean they're not total idiots
 
Doesn't mean they are either :)
 
@sehe No, sorry, you don't get to come back after saying "Calm down. Bye" and leaving the discussion.
 
9:08 PM
Well it kind of does
 
Stand up for your choices, jesus.
 
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ I do.
 
@CatPlusPlus Yes
 
The issue with religion, unlike with heroin, is that the end user is not the only one that gets fucked. Religions eventually start meddling with other people's lives on the basis of their conjectures and bullshit. If people believed and kept that to themselves, nobody would say anything ever.
 
And really it's not even an issue of people being idiots
 
Religions are harmful because of indoctrination
 
If you see the world as "Those that are addicted to heroin are fucking idiots", then we have two views of the world that couldn't be further apart.
 
But people want to impose their irrational beliefs in the form of laws and other stuff. And that's where shit gets fucked.
 
Uhh
You don't suddenly develop a heroin addiction
It's not a genetic disease
 
Never said you do.
Nobody said that in fact.
 
9:09 PM
It's a direct consequence of stupid idiot choices
So yes, they're idiots
 
I disagree.
They are stupid from your own point of view.
 
You disagree that taking drugs known to be highly addictive and destructive is stupid?
 
@CatPlusPlus that's your judgement
 
Which, as it turns out it's not the whole world's view.
 
9:10 PM
@CatPlusPlus Yes
 
Uhhhh
 
What
Do tell how it is not stupid
 
Broaden your mind! Tribes used drugs to get closer to the gods and be fearless in battle.
It worked out perfectly for them
 
9:11 PM
(don't ask what became of them, but that wasn't the drug's fault)
 
I know someone who does "Shroom Therapy".
 
Curiously recurring religious connections
Cancer for short
 
Maybe, for whatever reasons, I'm bored with my life. I see no exit. I go to a job I hate because I was arrested when I was a kid for something stupid that got me expelled from school. I have to wake up every single day, almost vomiting because I don't want to go to this stupid job once again. Maybe one night I'm watching the TV and suddenly I don't care about life anymore. Life is just a baggage. I just want to get high and forget about my miserable life for just a tiny bit. Will it kill me?
Maybe that's even better.
 
Doesn't make it any less stupid
 
It makes it a smart move in his case.
 
9:13 PM
No, it doesn't
 
Which is the exact opposite of stupid.
 
Smart usually equals intelligent.... so, I think you'd have to redefine "smart"...
"Convenient", yes. "Quick", sure. But not exactly "smart".
 
I think that someday you'll realize people tend to make pretty good choices with the informations at hand.
 
^
 
nartotic painkillers are prescribed in vast quantities, painkillers start to get abused, FDA rules get tightened, now you see heroin usage spiking in the US
 
9:14 PM
And that they are the opposite of stupid.
 
> You can't convince a believer of anything; for their belief is not based on evidence, it's based on a deep seated need to believe.
 
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ This, exactly, coincides with my earlier observation that most people mean well
 
there are a lot of factors in people's lives and to make presumptions and judgments on people you don't know is arrogant
 
9:14 PM
But meaning well doesn't imply that humans aren't dumb.
 
Getting high to forget is not a smart way to battle depression and holy fucking shit is that an incredibly irresponsible view to hold
 
But yeah, if you see the world as black and white. "Murderers are all children born with evil inside" and "Doing heroin is something only morons do", then go ahead.
 
user1804599
That's bullshit.
 
user1804599
There are many murderers who aren't children.
 
9:15 PM
I'm with Sartre on the tragic issue of human fallibility/limitation
 
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ This is fucking nonsense, people are prejudice and overcome with context and irrational fears. Have you ever given somebody advice, and realized that personal already knew what to do but has something preventing them from doing it?
 
wow that slippery slope
 
I'd recommend Columbo. It's a TV show that puts you in believable fictional situations where murderers go to jail, but you do understand why they did what they did.
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I'd recommend some life
It's about life
 
@CatPlusPlus that's rich
 
9:16 PM
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ Nobody said "Heroin is something morons do". It was "Doing heroin is a bad choice" - and smart people can make bad choices
 
And do never talk to any depressed people holy shit
 
ITT Columbo as a philosophical frame of reference.
 
@sehe pretty sure the first quote was what Cat said
 
You're actually dangerous with this retarded opinion
 
user1804599
The most tragic thing that keeps happening is people being born.
 
9:17 PM
@ʞɔᴉN Could be, I've certainly seen the other version more than once by cat tonight
 
And whether you understand why they made the decision or not doesn't make the decision any less stupid
Jesus fucking christ it's not relative
 
perhaps he changed his stance after realizing that dropping a weak analogy wasn't helping his position
 
@ʞɔᴉN Hi.
 
Nooble!
 
9:18 PM
ThePhD!
 
@ʞɔᴉN perhaps it's useless to theorize without even looking back (note: I'm not motivated to dig back either)
 
Hi nooble
 
And the fictional part is mostly about them always going to jail.
 
Good point
 
Garbage opinions about garbage religions and also doing drugs is not stupid if you want to ruin your life
That's p much the summary
 
9:20 PM
Yes. I don't want to do drugs and I'm not religious.
I care about life very much.
But I can imagine and I can understand if someone doesn't.
 
Guise, whatever you do, you're not getting out of this life alive. So let's just rejoice and make modules happen.
 
Therefore I'll validate and enable their stupid choices
 
C++31
 
Good job
10/10
 
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ Wow. That's all? Nobody /didn't/ understand, as far as I can see
 
9:21 PM
@ʞɔᴉN Nooblel is ded
He just pretends to be alive sometimes
 
Yeah.
 
You're all cancer
 
I was born very lucky. I used to think it like you do too. And this is not a point to show you that I'm more experienced than you or whatever. I'm just saying that I'm now able to imagine situations where murdering or doing heroine is your really unique choice.
 
This is what school does to you.
@ʞɔᴉN And you're fucking pneumonia.
 
@Nooble it hasn't been the same since you left us
 
9:22 PM
Because the goal moved from "I want to live an happy file" to "Happy life not possible anymore, better get high or die trying".
 
@ʞɔᴉN I still grieve everyday
 
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ Yup. Nobody disagreed, AFAICT.
 
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ what would your mommy say
 
laffo
 
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ What.
 
9:23 PM
Guise, this is getting pretty meta.
 
Yeah officer this murder was a really good choice considering the circumstances of my life
 
Doesn't make humanity less tragically limited.
 
Just post about it on Meta Stack Overflow, @ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ
 
@CatPlusPlus It was a good choice for those who committed it, maybe.
Not good for the dead and not for those who suffered from it.
 
@CatPlusPlus Actually that works, even in jurisprudence. Self-preservation is a thing
 
9:24 PM
45 mins ago, by ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ
I'm sick and tired of people looking down on "those dumb evil people".
 
laffo
 
@sehe eh
You can "laffo" all you want :)
 
Straight from my facebook feed.
 
you might not agree with everything he said but jefe had a point with that first quote
@Nooble what the fuck
brb making fake bomb
I bet you anything he's going to put the clock on his college application and get accepted to Harvard
 
I don't think so
 
9:26 PM
NIIIIIIIIIIIICK!!!
 
NICK.
@ʞɔᴉN What's up.
 
i'll put down $2k if anyone wants to bet against me
college admissions are literally cancer
 
By the time he gets to write his college application, the story will be forgotten.
 
TONYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
 
9:26 PM
Hi :)
 
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ maybe, maybe not
 
TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIICK
 
ouch. Can we say "only in America"?
Guess not anymore :(
Global Village.
With Global Village idiots.
 
> Feel the pain while we grieve; oh why oh why did Nubel leave
 
@ʞɔᴉN Yeah. Old hat. I even vehemently agreed from the start.
 
9:27 PM
@набиячлевэлиь :'(
 
@ThePhd where do you live?
 
New York, right now.
But I'm sick AF.
 
@sehe yeah still not sure what you guys were arguing about, you both had valid points
 
Where're you?
 
9:28 PM
@Nooble Now I kinda wish they shot him.
 
> And @ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ you know you're wrong for arguing wth Lounge so long
 
That's a bit out of reach. Will be in Seattle soon
 
@ElimGarak so salty
 
@ElimGarak I know right.
 
@AndyProwl RIP.
 
9:28 PM
just cuz the kid has 10k of equipment sitting on his kitchen table
 
Getting hardware for free. Now, someone give me an AMD Fury X.
 
Yeah
 
It's easier than to actually get rid of the 'omg terrorists everywhere' sentiment
 
I might move to Seattle sometime, fuck all this sun. tell me how it is
 
Urgh did seriously nobody get that reference
 
9:29 PM
No sun no good
 
@ʞɔᴉN Move to NYC.
 
it's so fucking obvious
 
Sun is love
 
I need to visit NYC
 
NYC, there's plenty of sun here right now.
 
9:29 PM
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ By that time, perhaps it will just be a contentious internet legend and they might refuse placement because they don't want to get associated with that or fear future stories that will reflect badly on the uni...
 
@AndyProwl Sun it h8
 
@набиячлевэлиь I'm terrible at "getting" things
 
Less sun = better
 
@AndyProwl Sadly Oracle bought it
 
But as soon as winter hits, the sun's gonna be like "Fuck you bitches" and hide beneath the horizon line.
 
9:30 PM
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ That you are, sir
 
Anything below 25 degrees is basically intolerably cold
 
@Nooble so I would be paying SF rent but I'd have to live with 8 million people crammed into high rises? fuck that haha
 
@ThePhD You're in NYC?!
 
@milleniumbug oh my god best pun today
 
And then Old Man Winter's gonna come and blow on everyone, and then the wind chill between buildings is gonna hit like -100
 
9:30 PM
Where?
 
@sehe It's more likely that blown expectations of his skills will make him hate engineering and he won't even finish school.
 
part of the idea of moving is to find a more affordable place to live
 
@Nooble Morningside.
 
@ʞɔᴉN High rises are cool.
 
@набиячлевэлиь where is that quoted from?
 
9:31 PM
@Nooble I'm pretty sure he told you that not so long ago
 
@AndyProwl Anything above 15 degrees is intolerably hot
 
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ yup. sadly (? who's to tell)
 
Sadly, indeed.
 
Ugh kid noises
 
@AndyProwl oh you :)
 
9:31 PM
Can't keep my window open
 
@CatPlusPlus Someone is joking?
 
It's indeed me
 
Cat seems particularly grumpy today, or is it me?
 
@набиячлевэлиь they call you poles because you live in the north pole ayy lmao
 
@AndyProwl What you up to in Seattle?
 
9:32 PM
ah... I have that disability too.
In summer, I'm often jailed in my own home because people seem to thing we don't have a radio in case we would like to hear some music
 
@Lalaland andy is coming to visit you soon
 
@TonyTheLion Nah, still within expected levels. :D
 
There's a nice grand piano in portland airport but this lady won't let go of it damn
 
I open my windows no matter if I can hear people outside
 
stock up on lube
 
9:33 PM
@ThePhD That's near Columbia University I think.
 
(and I can always people outside)
 
@Nooble Yes.
 
@sehe A paraphrase from this song
 
@ElimGarak :)
 
@Elim cppcon
 
9:33 PM
@ʞɔᴉN I could get down with that
 
@AndyProwl better than uncon?
 
@AndyProwl :D Happens to me everytime. Even stopped "trying". It's not like I don't have enough chance to play
 
@Tony of course not!
 
@AndyProwl heheh :)
 
Uncon best con
 
9:34 PM
good times
 
@набиячлевэлиь ah. thx. Would never have gotten that reference
 
@sehe Expected as much
 
Pianos in airports are an awesome idea
They should be in every airport
 
I hoped for @Nooble to get it but his total skrubbiness prevents it
 
Get what?
 
9:35 PM
@Nooble The song paraphrase reference
 
fixed this 💯 the code below deallocates the Vec explicitly http://t.co/D0lwZaXF6Y
@LucDanton is that a real issue? ^
 
@AndyProwl There was a piano in Eurostar trainstation in London for a while too.
 
@Tony nice. We have publicly accessible pianos in parks or on the street in brno but they're usually in a very bad state
 
Guys, how to stop being afraid of traveling via plane?
 
Actually travel /by/ plane instead
 
9:37 PM
@ElimGarak Bring clock bomb to establish dominance?
 
@ElimGarak fly in helicopter
 
@ElimGarak Some airlines have special courses you can take, where they take you on a flight with specially trained crew to help you understand what goes on etc
 
@Nooble It'll only make the vehicle (and it's staff) nervous
 
@ElimGarak get drunk enough to not care, but not so much they don't let you on board
 
I think EasyJet is one of them, IIRC
 
9:38 PM
Everybody knows hoomans become even dumber when nervous
 
@Nooble ahaha just saw this, died
 
@TonyTheLion uwotm8
 
^^
 
actually you would probably get shot if you brought that clock suitcase to an airport
 
I know a little bit too much about planes, which probably contributes to the fear. But mostly it is control issues, trusting those damn pilots.
 
9:39 PM
@ʞɔᴉN Well. It's not gonna fly
 
@sehe ;)
 
@набиячлевэлиь I was only relaying information I saw in a booklet while travelling once
jeesuz
 
@ElimGarak You're already trusting everybody you'll ever meet to not kill you
 
don't kill me for attempting to help someone
 
I was just surprised, mr. jeesuz
 
9:40 PM
@ElimGarak the sheer fact something can stay in the air by the principle it has to constantly be trying to "fall out of the air" - wow
 
@ElimGarak trust the damn pilots and trick yourself into thinking that as long as you are on board, statistically there is less chance for another competent hacker to be on board to derail the fly-by-wire
 
@ElimGarak luckily those pilots make a lot of money so you know you can trust them!
 
@набиячлевэлиь except buddha
 
@JonClements learning how satellites stayed in orbit really blew my mind
 
9:40 PM
2metaphysical4me
 
@Elim you can fly even though you're afraid, like me
 
@ʞɔᴉN Really? Read up on time dilation next it's amazing.
 
@ʞɔᴉN They just let it gooooooo
@ʞɔᴉN So did a shotgun v0v
 
@набиячлевэлиь Maybe you do
 
Unless it's a phobia in which case no idea. I can't fight my phobias
 
9:42 PM
@набиячлевэлиь if you meet buddha on the road kill him
 
Missed SIGGRAPH this year because of it, I really need to consult someone about it.
 
Orbiting is just being really bad at falling down
 
I would never be in the same room as a stink bug, for instance
 
@AndyProwl stink bug?
 
9:43 PM
Yeah
 
@ElimGarak Honestly, if I were you, I'd just take a short flight somewhere, and let the crew know you are not at ease, they are normally fairly helpful, because you know, you're not the only one to ever fly and be uncomfortable doing it.
 
I could never be in a room with a pointer bug
 
@chris Beautiful and C in the same sentence, lol
 
I hate all insects in general but sting bugs are just horrible
Grasshoppers too
 
9:43 PM
Yes fuck insects
 
@Nooble I can hear it
 
And spiders
 
@Nooble FUCKING OW
 
Pointer bugs are bas as well but I can bear them
 
@Nooble I can hear it all the way
 
9:44 PM
@TonyTheLion I like longer flights.
 
Sound warning next time?
 
@TonyTheLion Short flights are too much about landing and take-off (which give me the jeebs)
 
@Borgleader To be fair, I consider a lot of Boost.PP to be "beautifully" clever.
 
And it's fucking awful
 
@AndyProwl Found 10 cm grasshopper on the bedroom wall a few weeks back. Still traumatized.
 
9:44 PM
There goes my plans of a secret ringtone that teachers can't hear.
 
@sehe Me too, but the chairs are not that comfy in a lot of cases
 
@Nooble FUCK YOU
 
@Elim I'd get heart attack on then spot
 
@Nooble I can. But I had to raise the volume of my stereo. (Best tried with headphones, I guess)
 
IS THE TONE REALLY THAT BAD
 
9:45 PM
Best way to get over grasshoppers and lizards phobias is to get a land level apartment with garden and buy a cat.
 
Someone fuck that piano lady
 
grasshoppers aren't so bad, but spiders are a huge NOOOOPEEEEEE
 
He will bring in grasshoppers, dead birds and semi-dead lizards all fucking summer.
 
@sehe ah I see
 
And you'll have to bring them out every day.
You'll grow accustomed to seeing them dead.
 
9:45 PM
@AndyProwl you'll have to do it, you're closest
 
@Nooble Its very bad
 
@Nooble it's pretty irritating but I really doubt you'd notice it in a classroom setting
 
Lizards aren't trauma but they suck
Spiders are ew but not trauma unless they are big
 
use the vibrate function like a normal person
 
@ʞɔᴉN You're just old.
 
9:46 PM
I was so upset the first time they killed a very small lizard.
 
@AndyProwl Let a lizard loose on that grand piano
 
It was so awful.
 
@ʞɔᴉN how's that relevant?
 
@Nooble true :(
 
9:46 PM
@sehe That might work. Better than the other option
 
Has anyone actually attended GDC here? I fail to see the point, what do folks even do there? I get SIGGRAPH / GTC.
 
@AndyProwl You can try to instruct it to fuck her
 
2 mins ago, by Nooble
There goes my plans of a secret ringtone that teachers can't hear.
 
@ʞɔᴉN ahhh. Yeah seems safe choice
 
@sehe I'd be a lizard wizard
I guess that would be hazard, too
 
9:47 PM
Lizard whisperer
 
yup nooble can't even link a conversation thread properly
 
@AndyProwl mozard
 
@ʞɔᴉN The @Nooble cannot in general
 
@Nooble brb need to pick up my kids from school
 
@ʞɔᴉN Lol.
 
9:49 PM
@ʞɔᴉN Got 69 of 'em?
 
Who's the lucky girl?
 
@Nooble Your mother
'f course
 
girl?
 
@Nooble Yo. It's a link now, go read it
 
9:52 PM
@набиячлевэлиь Hehe.
@набиячлевэлиь Can't decrypt.
You're doing something wrong.
 
@Nooble can you post the key next time? jesus christ
 
@Nooble Try reloading and then decrypting
 
Nooble, y no new pushes on Icicle? :P
 
@ElimGarak Because he sux
 
9:56 PM
@набиячлевэлиь You have a lawn?
 
@ElimGarak School.
I'm actually setting it up though.
Got CMake to finally work.
 
@Nooble Classic excuse
 
@набиячлевэлиь Lucky.
 
@Nooble Gigabit > Lawn
 
9:57 PM
Not if that router keeps being a pooplord.
 
Get a better one
 
@ElimGarak Actually there was a push yesterday :)
 
@Nooble youtube.com/watch?v=0B0Y4Q14fcQ highly relevant
 
user1804599
fap
fap
fap
 
whoever starred that should kill themselves
 
9:58 PM
readme update :P
 
@ʞɔᴉN I am making time.
conjures up time
 
heh Fedora annoys me too much
I think I'll install Ubuntu
 
Install Gentoo :P
 
@Nooble actually you're spending it right now
 
@набиячлевэлиь what about no
 
9:59 PM
its easy, just type in emerge -a sys-os/gentoo
 
@ʞɔᴉN how did you know?
 

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