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11:00
ugh, wtf brain
I meant Andrew Sutton of course.
wtb> Mike Stroustrup Dos Niebler
@Griwes Even better, the designers of the fold expressions agree that they need to be fixed (we discussed the problem, hence the paper). But it's harder to convince the people who did not design them.
Hope the problem will be solved in Kona.
@Morwenn Uh? Why would you need to convince those, really? Just make the original authors amend their paper, ???, profit.
Who authored the original proposal, btw?
I seem to have forgotten.
Gabrieric Actstrup
11:06
@Griwes Andrew Sutton and Richard Smith.
-1
A: Why do we need to write an own copy program while we can use copy shell command?

Brett HaleA reasonably approach might be to make use of std::system : #include <cstdlib> ... std::string src; // system dependent path. std::string dst; // system dependent path. std::string copy_cmd; // system dependent copy command. ... // append the strings - adding and flags to 'copy_cmd' to avoid...

But since their proposal has already been voted into C++17, a counter-proposal is needed. An amendment won't do.
"a reasonable approach" to copy a file by calling system
Brett often doesn't seem reasonable to me.
Yeah he's Bretty often unreasonable.
canned laughter
Error C2797: list initialization inside member initializer list or non-static data member initializer is not implemented
thanks MS
sometimes I wonder what is actually implemented
11:13
@Morwenn blergh
This is why there's such a thing as "too formalized process".
@MaiLongdong Error reporting.
Anyway, just striking some lines from the standard seemed too complicated and some people thought that there ought to be a more generic solution. Therefore, I wrote the second version of the proposal which proposes exactly the same thing but explains why the other solutions are bad.
And now I'm just hoping that I won't get a « too late » answer or something like that.
welcome to the standardization process; I shall not be your guide
On the other hand, stuff like for (obviously_declared_variable: stuff) almost made it into the standard.
welcome to C++
The entire committee smokes Herb
11:19
The language with a formal committee that mostly doesn't know what it's doing.
Let's be honest: they have to work on something huge and keep some level of consistency, but some decisions still surprise me from time to time.
@Morwenn Carpal tunnel is a serious problem
Gotta save those chars
I don't even remember. What was the obvious default declaration? auto or auto&?
volatile auto
11:27
Oh yeah, universal reference; or whatever they are called nowadays
« Forwarding references »
There was even a proposal to introduce the term.
So it's yet another non-official term for the same thing?
11:30
Never heard of Gabriel Dos Reis before btw
@Morwenn auto volatile, noob :)
wasn't it auto&&
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ he's the modules guy
well, one of them
> The concern is that some people
will interpret that something having such a name is meant to be used “universally.” And that’s a bad thing
to encourage by a name that will imply that to many people, even if we constantly put up disclaimers
when we use it.
lol
@AndyProwl I see
The modules proposal that will never happen
@MaiLongdong Yeah, it's auto&&.
11:34
Hopefully this will be my last week programming in PHP and MySQL of my life
I'm so excited, but at the same time I can't get myself to finish this uni project
There are like about 12 hours of work left
awkward? http://t.co/xxrWgMOhpB
Guess I’ll pick up popcorn at the grocer’s.
> 3.3. Q: What about auto&&, including for local variables and for(/*auto&&*/ e : c)?
@elyse New plan: make a JavaScript framework, let it become popular, change its name to "penis", see flood of questions tagged on SO. Brilliant.
#isitjustme or is the real mind bender that #Madison even has 32 million(!) registered users. Twice the population of my country. #wtf
@LucDanton Better start growing some mais
11:46
Mais Longdong
@sehe a game programming contest, with a theme and limited time
@sehe A disaster :P
We need more of those.
@Mr.kbok Cough
Of course, no one would mean "what game was jointly developed". Because, you know, that would be information
> Forwarding References - Herb Sutter, Bjarne Stroustrup, Gabriel Dos Reis
Oh look, it was the Trio that invented the naming problem!
A little windy Lieutenant @Columbo?
11:57
@sehe oh, sorry for the misunderstanding. The answer is none: each one produced his own game.
12:11
@Mgetz I don't get it...
@thecoshman see @sehe 's tweet above
someone was alleging that Tony Blair was using the site
@Mr.kbok For the teams, are you planning on forcing teams in the jam?
@Mgetz what site?
31 mins ago, by sehe
#isitjustme or is the real mind bender that #Madison even has 32 million(!) registered users. Twice the population of my country. #wtf
2 mins ago, by thecoshman
@Mgetz what site?
12:20
2 mins ago, by Griwes
31 mins ago, by sehe
#isitjustme or is the real mind bender that #Madison even has 32 million(!) registered users. Twice the population of my country. #wtf
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ I'm not the organizer this time, @Nooble is. I don't think anything is decided yet.
well that pen is lost for ever to the realm beneath that little roly set of draws
1 min ago, by thecoshman
2 mins ago, by thecoshman
@Mgetz what site?
Thought, @Nooble if you want me to lend a hand for the planning you can ping me
there are lots of programming resources written by indian people, but I'm having a hard time finding decent ones written in a comprehensible English
1 min ago, by Griwes
2 mins ago, by Griwes
31 mins ago, by sehe
#isitjustme or is the real mind bender that #Madison even has 32 million(!) registered users. Twice the population of my country. #wtf
12:21
We still left with array no chars
..
@sehe oh erm yeah, compulsory "your country?"
inb4 flags
inb4 bin
> we are still left with an empty array of chars
inb4 (somehow)
@thecoshman can you translate indian english?
flag war
@MarcoA. :\ sort of
12:25
Clearly it is solving smaller instance of final problem easy
obviously everyone who has an account on a dodgy website uses their real name and really email address that they share with friends & family... they also only have one email account on each site ...
> Clearing, solving it in smaller steps is easier
I think that's what it's trying to say
also why didn't I know any of those dodgy sites before something terrible happened to them?
This is easier: We still not yet done
@MarcoA. that's kinda poetic
12:28
I don't know any drug dealer in Sydney
@chmod711telkitty shame on you
@MarcoA. It's odd to hear such things admitted
@Griwes - well, that's a smug little comment, boy - but for future reference, you could leave a something that adds value. — Brett Hale 9 mins ago
ugh.
you made a dick comment, he responded with a dick comment vOv
I made a dick comment, he responded with an offensive comment.
12:40
Dude, you can call your kids "boys", but if you are going to do that to others, strictly to make them look like inferior related to you - you need to watch out. — Griwes 2 mins ago
you sound so angry
@Griwes he called you out for acting like a child
Wut?
I stated an opinion.
could he phrased it better, sure, his pint is still valid.
Pints are always valid
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@Griwes no, you acted like a twat.
12:41
^ dis
what the fuck
I meant the pint
are you guys drunk or what
@thecoshman fuck off
"oh look at me, I'm so clever, let me make some wise arse comment" grow up. At least leave something worth while there.
dude
12:42
well, perhaps 'twat' is not quite right
system is never reasonable let alone to copy a fooken file
@Mr.kbok sure, but you can phrase much better than @Griwes did
@Griwes just added a touch of humor to an altogether terrible answer
@thecoshman yes the correct phrasing would be "are you fucking insane"
griwes's comment sounded gay, at most. no need to get worked up over it
holy shit
divine feces
jesus crap
12:49
@Mr.kbok it didn't sound gay at all. it was smug, arrogant and useless
it wasn't useless, it explained the reason behind the mass of downvotes
@Mr.kbok it's OK to be gay
except in some countries, where you'll get executed for it
but other than that it's OK!
@Mr.kbok no, I didn't explain anything, it's just some fat comic book guy style snort
@orlp it's still OK to be gay, just risky
@thecoshman no, in those countries being gay makes you a criminal
@orlp it's still OK to be gay
being labelled a criminal doesn't make being who you are not ok
13:01
@thecoshman depends on your definition of OK
if OK = moral, sure
if OK = legal, nope
if OK is your name then you're OK whether you're a criminal or not
@Mr.kbok mr. kbOK
What if your name is Ok, you are injured & can not walk. Someone asks you 'are you Ok?'
you would be like 'I am OK but I am not OK'
13:03
I'm ok! I'm ok! Help me!
Hi ok, I'm dad.
Hi Ok, I'm Dog.
@chmod711telkitty "MY NAME IS OK, I REQUIRE MEDICAL ATTENTION"
sounds like what a mental patient would say
@chmod711telkitty btw are you trying to attract hordes of men with your sexy profile pic?
13:06
@thecoshman as if it matters. The point is 32m is a lot
@sehe is that USA only?
hot isn't it :p
or is maddison international
What's sehe's country again?
inb4 north pole
@orlp It's the continuation of lrio's experiment
13:07
north pole is not a country
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ neverlands
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ gee you worked it out fast
@Mr.kbok god forbid you post his actual picture
@Mr.kbok he will sue you for reproduction rights
Wait
LRiO and telkitty are the same person
I just figured it out
They are He is trying to prove that fat girls are hated more than attractive girls.
@chmod711telkitty now use light's old pic and see how much people love you
13:10
OpenGL applications compile easily in Linux :)
sherlock on the right, you are on the left
good day guys. just want to ask if this is correct: 'Nice to see you again a while ago'?
@user3783598 just add 'since'
because I met a girl a while ago but i wasn't able to talk to her so i'll just chat her
@user3783598 chat with her
13:11
anyways thanks
Hi DemCodeLines
How have you been?
@thecoshman What is that?
@edition where will i put since? haha sorry
@user3783598 you could say 'since a while ago'
13:13
Oh wait, you mean the word
@user3783598 still not grammatically sound.
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ next time you will claim that I am shog
@chmod711telkitty you don't have to worry for a while
user image
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because i had already met her last week and a while ago was the second time
@chmod711telkitty Cute. And that is all I say in order not to attract local SJWs. :)
@chmod711telkitty Prove it
anyone here used OpenGL based engines?
I don't need to ... but if you insist, I have a couple of pictures on linkedIn & meetup websites. Not that hard to find if you know how to
Are there engines not based on OpenGL that are cross platform?
13:17
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ I guess so?
what about "Nice to see you a while ago" ? is it correct?
@user3783598 Ask on english.stackexchange.com
@user3783598 "It has been nice to see you a while ago"
> It was nice to see you a while ago
now bye
@wilx it's a live map showing attacks on deliberately open nodes.
13:18
Also with what logic do you come to a C++ room asking for the best way to break the ice with a girl.
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thanks guys
Don't you know we are all depressed antisocial nerds
@chmod711telkitty whoa, the real face of the troll. crazy
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ Maybe he wants to tell us how to do that? scratches head
13:19
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ at least it's not C++
you should do some search, elite trolls are normally quite good looking
Is it worse to read women or the C++ standard?
@chmod711telkitty It is impossible to find somebody on LinkedIn even if you know her real name. :)
@chmod711telkitty proof
I am not sehe, I don't do you homework for you
13:20
@chmod711telkitty send pics while holding a sign saying "hello lounge<c++>"
@wilx It's impossible to not be in LinkedIns DB
@Lalaland Listen... this plugin thing is ruining the fun of stars for me.
@thecoshman That is probably true. :)
I don't want to know who stars my messages
@chmod711telkitty false, I know for a fact that @MaiLongdong is fuck ugly
13:20
actually, there must be cross platform alternatives to OpenGL.
@Mr.kbok I can skype if you want to
@edition OpenGL is the cross platform alternative. :)
@wilx hehe, your right.
@wilx You didn't get it - OpenGL is a problem, not a solution. :P
@Griwes You are solving the wrong problem then. :)
13:22
@chmod711telkitty I know it's not obvious, but I'm at work right now.
Let's see how this goes
@Mr.kbok What username
Oh wow, that was fast
@CatPlusPlus kbok
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ Its a fact that @MaiLongdong has the longest dong.
Xeo
Xeo
13:25
@TonyTheLion Nono, that would be @TehLongestdong
thats my debugging function
lol const char*
hahaha, I know.
Xeo
Xeo
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ const char *
Then don't do it
13:27
why not? its easy :D
y u no std::string??
@Xeo Even worse
use std::experimental::string_view
Xeo
Xeo
Your mom is easy.
Jumping from the window is easy too
13:27
I'm not sure whether const char *src or const char * src is worse
@Xeo She is? Never knew.
std::string or gtfo
@edition std::string is even shorter, how is const char* easy?
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ oh.
@Mr.kbok Yeah that was going too far
13:31
oh you think
What
It's Thursday already???
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ hello jefffrey
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ Friday for me.
welcome to Thursday
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ it's friday dude
13:34
I know
And it's like monday to me
in new zealand
I'll stay in my room on Stackoverflow.
IRTA "I'll stay in my mom"
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ I actually was delivered late :)
Ok, let's go work
13:40
@ScottW you have to play hard to get
@ScottW hahah
"I don't believe you" is always the right answer
"I have double D boobs" -> "I don't believe you"
I'm a serial murderer -> I don't believe you oops
@ScottW I don't believe you.
fifty shades of lounge
13:50
@MaiLongdong have you done projects with OpenGL?
@MaiLongdong I assumed, because you do HPC.
I did the computational part only, not visualizations
I have written ray tracers though, but OpenGL not involved, as you write directly to the frame
@MaiLongdong what rendering system?
Everything handmade
13:52
oh, very good :)
@ScottW your mom!
@ScottW std::mom_died_exception
std::press_to_pay_respects<F>
use it with the std::your_mom_policy_t dispatch param
@MaiLongdong that's a fatal exception
13:53
@TonyTheLion you were a fetal exception
@MaiLongdong This crashes the date.
She should have std::aborted him
several bad puns later...
lol
> Is it possible to read and change ID3 tags on media files using the filesystem library?
No, but they're working on cake recipes in v4 — sehe 6 secs ago

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