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@Mysticial lol
user406009
DON'T YOU GUYS KNOW THAT CAPS LOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL?
user1804599
@Mysticial lol
@Lalaland REALLY?
@R.MartinhoFernandes yeah, seemed to have gone down well enough
user406009
18:03
Nah, caps lock is best bound to backspace.
> I need some codes like this please help source
oh god do I have regrets browsing snack overflow main
user406009
Don't we have a tag for this?
user406009
Or did the grouches at Meta ban it?
@Lalaland I know something worse than that.
Nubel your fix didn't fix anything
18:11
How Can Mirrors Be Real If Our Eyes Aren't Real.
Just pull my PR will ya'?
@nabijaczleweli I'm migrating it to a webserver.
@nabijaczleweli Ok but if this breaks anything I will be a very sad koala.
@nabijaczleweli CNAME has to do with my DNS settings.
Note how skorezore.xyz works now.
And skorezore.github.io redirects to it.
I still don't understand keybase
What's the purpose of that?
Looks to me like something only nerds could get into
So you can manually do your own SSL or something
user406009
It's for storing PGP keys.
What are PGP keys useful for?
user406009
18:15
Encrypting and signing messages.
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ Well it gives me PGP keys.
There are other easier ways to send encrypted messages
And I can sign my stuff to prove that it's me.
user406009
So when you start your criminal conspiracy to put "JAVA SUCKS" on Oracle's website, you can coordinate your plans securly with @Nooble.
18:16
aka the Ask.com toolbar
But in reality, it's an exclusive club that you need an invite to get into.
That makes more sense, yes
user406009
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ What would you're alternative method of secure communication then?
@nabijaczleweli Give me link to PR, can't find it.
Telegram encrypted messages
Or pretty much any transmission where you trust the provider (say Google) and you are using SSL
user406009
18:17
In order to encrypt something, you need a key.
Google handles that
user406009
Clearly you need a bigger tinfoil hat.
Me? How so?
lol
And then I'm the one that needs a tinfoil hat
user406009
In all seriousness, the NSA has been proven to intercept some of Google's internal communications.
user406009
18:19
If you are engaging in nation state level criminal activity, I would not rely on Google.
user406009
(Of course at that point, keybase would also be vulnerable, so etc etc)
user1804599
If you are engaging in criminal activity, you should stop immediately.
user406009
Truthfully, @ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ does have a good point. High level encryption is useless for most purposes.
@ScottW I'm aboveage 14.
user406009
18:22
The average person doesn't need it.
indeed
they only send all of their banking information over the wire
who would want to protect that?
woot, look at this ncrunch.net
the ani on the right
user406009
Let me clarify: By "high level encryption" I am referring to individual public/private key encryption for personal communication.
user406009
TLS is useful.
user1804599
encrypt your selfies
user1804599
18:27
no
@elyse Or even better: don't take them at all.
user1804599
you can only encrypt things that exist
Who has a keybase.io so I can send them secret messages.
@Lalaland Because I totally want the NSA reading about my dog's injuries
user1804599
they will destroy your dog to save you money
user406009
@ScottW Don't worry. I am already recording the entire chat.
user406009
Delete your messages if you want, but I already have them. MHAHAHA
@nabijaczleweli I see that. It doesn't work too well for mobile devices. Check previous commits, I've tried that 2 days ago :P
Also I'm working on a thing for preloading the bgimage
user1804599
How Haskell programmers get sex: import Prelewd.
18:32
@nabijaczleweli Especially for Chrome on Android and Safari on iOS, using cover results in very, very weird issues.
user406009
@ScottW Bx, urer vf fbzr rapelcgrq pbzzhavpngvba. Abj jr pna qvfphff bhe cynaf gb vainqr gur CUC ebbz naq gnxr vg qbja sebz vafvqr. Qb lbh unir lbhe fbpxchccrgf naq TVSf ernql?
user406009
I'll give you a hint: rot13.
@Nooble you need vendor prefixes too
@nabijaczleweli Yes I know.
user1804599
I think Python's del keyword should've been zap.
18:34
Check the previous commits, I've tried this.
It's really bad on 1080x1920 displays.
why the flying fuck does Python have a del keyword.
never heard of a delete function?
user406009
Removing items from dictionaries.
@Nooble SS or it didn't happen
user406009
It is sorta dumb.
user406009
They should have removed it in python 3.
18:36
so basically they implemented a library function as a language feature.
I thought they stopped all that shit in py3
user406009
Not really all to different from python2 print.
@Lalaland That ... is not a defence in the slightest.
user1804599
@Puppy no, only print, eval and exec.
@nabijaczleweli I didn't take a SS and I'm not about to reproduce it since I currently don't have a mobile device on me.
I wrote a simple JS minifier today
18:37
I talked about it with Nick on Skype, so check with him.
indeed
user1804599
@nabijaczleweli now delete it and use Closure instead.
@ʞɔᴉN I'm hereby checking with you
@Lalaland keybase being vulnerable doesn't affect me one bit.
Keybase is the wrong attack vector.
@elyse No, not gonna
user1804599
18:39
-1
user406009
@R.MartinhoFernandes Is someone can man in the middle keybase, they can provide an incorrect public key.
user406009
Then they can MITM all your communications.
Which then doesn't verify.
See, I've done it before.
18:40
So they can't MITM anything.
@Nooble Use autoprefixer
user406009
@R.MartinhoFernandes How are you going to verify your key?
user406009
Securely.
@CatPlusPlus Ooh that seems interesting.
The key identity can be verified externally.
18:42
@Lalaland That's the entire point of WoT
You have assertions from others that the key is correct
user406009
So, if you already have a secure channel to verify your key, why not just transmit the key over that?
user406009
Why even use keybase?
Keybase can die tomorrow and you still can't spoof my key without massive control over all my communications.
There's no secure channel. The key proofs are public information.
@Puppy Unsetting variables
@R.MartinhoFernandes But what if... keybase dies today?! Dun dun dun.
user406009
18:44
Yes, but that public information could be fake.
user406009
Everyone who already has your key is fine, but some people probably don't have your key.
That involves a vulnerability not in keybase.
Literally the same thing with every other way of communicating a key
Keybase is stronger than just posting your key online due to connections with public profiles and assertions from others that the information is correct
There's no special trust put in keybase.
user406009
Aren't you trusting that people will see your actual key when they visit your keybase profile?
18:46
The keys are verified externally.
Aren't you trusting that people will get your actual key when they download it from keyserver
Aren't you trusting that the public key attached to the email actually belongs to that person
It's the same thing, you need someone else's assertion
user406009
You can physically meet someone and hand them a key.
If the key you got from keybase is not the one that signed my Twitter proof, then it's not mine.
@Lalaland you cannot arrange such a meeting.
user406009
Ah I see your argument.
18:48
@Lalaland And Keybase is weaker that that, yes, but it also scales much better
user406009
You want to publish your key on as many places as possible.
user406009
So email, twitter, facebook, keybase, etc are all considered just additional ways to publish your key.
user1804599
local newspaper
user406009
And a theoretical attacker has to take over all of them to beat you.
18:49
@thecoshman Video games are linked to obesity now?
The profiles are identities.
user406009
That's a decent argument.
You start from them.
"I want the key of the holder of that domain"
Then you ask keybase for it, it pulls it from the server and validates the proof through the DNS record.
user406009
Yeah, and keybase also provides a better workflow for consolidating multiple key sources. (Than manually doing it).
If keybase fails or is compromised, either you won't get a key, or you'll get one you will know is wrong.
user406009
18:54
Well, if they compromise all of your other services, then you get a compromise key without knowing. But that is a higher bar to reach than just compromising one service.
@Nooble no... the sitting around not doing anything active
@thecoshman He was exercising his fingers!
@Nooble ¬_¬

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