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12:00
sometimes living in a third-world country has benefits
@sehe yes, you don't care
@khajvah close enough :)
Wait, there's an implicit conversion from int to char? Isn't that a narrowing conversion?
@Jefffrey Yeah, those are usually implicit.
Being narrowing only means it will be forbidden in list-initializers.
12:05
Doesn't narrowing mean that you go from a type that holds X values to a type that holds Y values where Y < X?
And they are the most dangerous ones?
@R.MartinhoFernandes oh my, that is quite the price... still... I trust you aren't expecting close to that :P
@Jefffrey Yeah...
And they made it implicit.
12:06
@Jefffrey you can convert long to int too implicitly, no?
This makes no sense to me.
44 secs ago, by R. Martinho Fernandes
But C++
compilers warn afaik tho
@thecoshman I didn't pay close to that for the six. I dunno how they came up with that price (it's even the same screens; just a shorter mount)
for potential loss of data
12:07
@AlexM. Eh
But yeah, you can see the hinges on the back.
@R.MartinhoFernandes vOv maybe they aren't being made any more, so it's a limited stock, like trying to get ddr2
@R.MartinhoFernandes Butt C++
@Jefffrey I'll run away now
And I didn't see the link as I was on my phone...Not a reason to become insulting, UB stands for management consultancy in german where I come from, sorry! — GermanExpress 4 mins ago
Gosh. Now I'm insulting for telling people where to look
12:07
@R.MartinhoFernandes yeah, I see what you mean about the screens being built for use in that way
looks like I should be able to get a metal bar and a some way of mounting it to something...
@thecoshman and at least 4 10mm wall holes
I wouldn't risk less
no idea how the thing looks from the back
I'll have to see
unless you want to stand them on the desk (bad idea) or behind it (costly and big)
my current desk isn't against a wall, well not backing up to it...
but then I might be moving my setup to upstairs...
well fuck desk clamps unless your desk is solid steel
12:10
@sehe He comes from german. Interesting.
@thecoshman Any single screen mount would do, if it can hold the weight of all three.
you'd need a standalone thing I guess
@R.MartinhoFernandes wait do you use the VESA mount on the middle one to support all 3?
@R.MartinhoFernandes well, 25kg isn't too crazy
it is for a single-screen mount
@BartekBanachewicz Yes.
12:11
@Griwes Oh. I dont' even split haird that closely
> A few days ago I was #1. Some guy called "w=team" tried to shoot a virus at me and missed. I launched a few w's to him. He took the bait then snugged up nice and close to me.
Split.
Bitch thinks I have the memory of a goldfish or something.
@R.MartinhoFernandes uh oh
@BartekBanachewicz It's sturdy as fuck.
@R.MartinhoFernandes so I just need to find a vesa (how big?) mount that can take the weight...
or fab my own...
it would be the perfect excuse to buy some fun toys
12:12
@thecoshman they come in 80mm and 100mm variants IIRC
so prolly the bigger one is used
@thecoshman working in metal isn't something you should do at home unless you know what you're doing imho
Thanks to increase my knowledge about compilers.reality is i am beginner.Now my target is learn c++11 — kamran 45 secs ago
I'm tempted to respond "and interpunction"
cue me getting burned on a screw I needed to grind a bit
@BartekBanachewicz oh pish posh, it's nothing at all
@BartekBanachewicz Basically, for two years, a single mount like that held all six (in two groups of three, basically, but each group held together from the middle) just fine.
the desktop grinder I have can heat the things to really really high temperatures
12:14
@BartekBanachewicz tends to happen :P
You just need to be careful assembling the hinges.
Or some sturdy fucking
anything cutting or grinding or drilling WRT metal is really dangerous imho
ask someone who has a metal workshop and can weld the arm for you
@BartekBanachewicz vOv you just have to be careful. Just like driving at 200kmph isn't dangerous if you take precautions for it.
ask for a 4mm steel plate welded to an iron pipe
12:15
@BartekBanachewicz but then I have no excuse to buy one :P
drill 4 holes
This is the six screen mount: amazon.de/Ersatzteil-Samsung-stand-MD230X6-BN96-13558A/dp/… as a replacement part.
(no pic)
@thecoshman a metal workshop isn't something you like, go and buy
it accumulates over time :P
> (20/20) Installiere kdesdk-kcachegrind [##############################################################] 100%
Optionale Abhängigkeiten für kdesdk-kcachegrind
php: PHP support
Fucking PHP trying to sneak into my system
@BartekBanachewicz yeah I know :P but welder, grinder, coping saw, files... it's a fair bit of kit sure... but then I can weld anything!
12:16
@Columbo hah
Also lol noob non-English locale.
the guy who forges swords on his YT channel has over 250 sets of pliers to hold metal
@Columbo Kill it with fire!
@Griwes I wanna change but how
I'm too lazy to change my locale file
@Columbo by... changing locale
12:17
120 euros.
@Griwes Too lazy give steps
...
@thecoshman then you need sanding paper, disks, drills
this is way more cash than the stand
and that's why it accumulates over time
Triple-armed screen mounts usually go much more expensive than that.
you need like 1% of that stuff to make a mount, yes.
but it's in having this 100% available to pick from :P
and this comes from a guy who owns 3 grinders and three drills
never enough grinders.
12:19
@BartekBanachewicz yeah I know, but I tend to think, if I want a tool once, I'll want it again, so maybe as well buy it. Hence I have sanders and drils
YAGNI :)
I have one good (IMHO) advice to give out though
@BartekBanachewicz ... I needed it once, may as well buy it.
buy relatively cheap sets of drills; they are shitty and will run out soon, but you can keep the fancy box and replace the shitty ones one by one with proper ones
@thecoshman beh, you'll hardly buy top-quality gear by then.
I'd rather need something multiple times and borrow from someone before stating "I really need to own this"
12:21
But yeah... I'd have to think about if I do want to fab my own mounting arm and how to go about it. The actual vesa mounting plate is trciky... either weld flat plate to tube/bracket, or attempt to cold forge it into a shape that I can bolt too...
attempt to what
8 mins ago, by Bartek Banachewicz
@thecoshman working in metal isn't something you should do at home unless you know what you're doing imho
I rest my case.
@BartekBanachewicz nah, don't buy cheap, breaks too fast
@thecoshman read what I wrote again
@rightfold I have just caught a headline that says 7 people drowned during this 3 day weekend. (Today is public holiday here.) One of the drowned, young man, went to swim while not knowing how to swim.
@BartekBanachewicz cut a "X in a square" shape, then hammer it so the x is raised out... would require gig to do it ok.
12:22
a single drill bit I bought last time cost as much as half of the set. But I knew this was the one I used the most often
@BartekBanachewicz I'd rather put the extra money into buying nicer in the first place.
you can't do that all the time
@BartekBanachewicz oh drill bits
yeah I used "drills" because shitty translation leftovers
Yeah I should by a set...
@BartekBanachewicz yeah, the drill is the expensive motor part :P
12:24
oh ok
the bit is ... well, just a bit :P
sorry for the confusion
@thecoshman I am pretty sure VESA specifies the mounting bracket allowing it to be flat
Yet another bitching article about SO being run by nazis.
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> How trolls have taken over your favorite programming Q&A site
it's not my favorite Q&A site
believe it not, whilst I wouldn't say I'm good enough to sell my skills and am rather competent at fabrication... I've done most things... except liquid metal (well, besides welding... but that's not pouring like)
12:25
They have gotten far more infrequent IYAM.
Perhaps the market was saturated
@thecoshman hey I think working with stuff is cool
it's just metal is much harder.
@BartekBanachewicz well, if I screw a flat plate to the panels, I need some way of getting a bracket onto the back of that bracket, welding is one way, but I'd need to buy one...
@thecoshman I kinda think like that too, but grinders and sanders are way too fucking dangerous.
> PERSONALITY: - - - - - - rebel, geek, philosopher - - - - - - INTERESTS: programming, UX , design, human sciences, board gaming, movies, retro-futurism
lmao
compare the prices of lathes for wood and steel and see for yourself
12:26
hammering out a domed part to then screw/bolt through takes more work :\
@R.MartinhoFernandes for you :P
should've just s///ed all that with "I think I'm pretty interesting"
@thecoshman I don't buy them as gifts.
@BartekBanachewicz oh man, to have a lathe :)
@thecoshman i think it also requires a cavity for screws to pop out on the back
@R.MartinhoFernandes gift to your self
12:27
@thecoshman it also requires a lot of skill
@BartekBanachewicz hence the dome
and no welding necessary
I know what I mean, but canny word it... I'd draw it... but to much effort
@thecoshman you don't need that if there's a cavity in the screen
@BartekBanachewicz nah. I don't need a lathe (for this)
12:28
@thecoshman I know you don't, but using one requires a lot of skill.
@BartekBanachewicz I've yet to see a vesa mount screen that has the screw holes raised. that said, I could just use some raisers myself :P
@BartekBanachewicz oh sure. Not that hard though, it's more practice
@thecoshman you can also bend it
or use a bent shape already
Speaking of tools... my ex-flatmates have given me word that this thingy has finally arrived.
@BartekBanachewicz yea that's true
@R.MartinhoFernandes oh cool.
12:29
Gonna make all kinds of crazies.
@R.MartinhoFernandes yours?
3dfab at rmf io
@thecoshman Yeps. No more begging the guys in the office to schedule some job for me.
@BartekBanachewicz only tricky part there would be bending those arms... but I guess a gig could be made for it simply enough...
pretty cool to have an own 3D printer
I'll wait before they get cheaper though
@thecoshman use something that's bent already
@BartekBanachewicz like a VESA mount :P
12:32
@thecoshman vOv
@BartekBanachewicz I got this one much cheaper than retail price because KS.
@BartekBanachewicz oic. but then I'd have to mate that to the 80 or 100 mm plate on the sereens
@thecoshman if you find one where H = 100mm, you just need to cut it at 100mm length
it would surely be strong enough
> I'm using Visual Studio 2013, in case that may be obvious from the "en-US". (wat)
not sure how easy to buy though.
12:33
@BartekBanachewicz but then I have to wrangle it match up to a pipe of sorts
@thecoshman Haha, I'll set that up.
Just for kicks.
@thecoshman put the pipe in the middle, drill through it and the C-shape
@R.MartinhoFernandes seriously though... might be looking to make one at some stage and be after a few boot strapping parts... ~$200 seems to cover the cost of motors and hot end and few odds and sods to make one
@thecoshman You mean build one?
@R.MartinhoFernandes aye
12:35
pfff
why don't you buy a 3D printer builder while we're at it
you know
a machine that builds 3D printers
building 3D printers is for suckers
I thought about it, but if it'll cost 200 bucks, I prefer to pay 200 bucks for one from a production run.
I saw a made one that had a nice big build area (200mm^3 iirc) but folder up like a suit case, so was nice and compact to store.
@R.MartinhoFernandes was just about to say delta (deltoid?) printers are fancy looking niceness
This is the print area of mine.
You have one? Or you use one at work?
The whole thing is a 185mm cube.
12:39
@sehe he bought one
Nice
9 mins ago, by R. Martinho Fernandes
Speaking of tools... my ex-flatmates have given me word that this thingy has finally arrived.
the prices of those are gonna get lower soon-ish
@BartekBanachewicz I got the Super Early Bird thingy I think.
I don't feel like being an early adopter of that
12:40
200 bucks IIRC.
Retail is 350.
especially because I care more about what I can print than the printer itself
also I'd like to see more durable "inks" appear
@R.MartinhoFernandes why'd you not speak up about it?
I love the look of laser curing 3d printers. it's so cool seeing this thing rise out of the fluid
"speak up"
12:41
@R.MartinhoFernandes for example would you be able to print a phone mount for the bike on yours? Is it durable enough?
@sehe tell us the KS was on
I think $350 is is still quite affordable
we could have all had one
@thecoshman there's a stie for that ...
@sehe vOv I have better things to do than just check out every KS
12:42
@BartekBanachewicz Dunno. I'll do some tests. I don't even remember what kind of filament I bought.
> Supports many different materials: ABS, PLA, Nylon, and more.
@R.MartinhoFernandes yeah, would be nice to have a multi-filament machine, so you could print hard plastic, flexible plastic and rubber stuff all in one go.
@thecoshman There are many 3D printer Kickstarter campaigns at any given point in time.
> PET (Polyethylene terephthalate) is an industrial strength filament with several great features. It's strength is much higher than PLA, it is FDA approved for food containers and tools used for food consumption
@BartekBanachewicz PET is what plastic bottles are often made of.
@BartekBanachewicz I think I ordered either PLA or ABS.
12:44
yeah. That's quite flexible though
@R.MartinhoFernandes oh, I'll have to look it up
ABS is more rigid IIRC
Probably PLA.
@BartekBanachewicz well, plastic bottles are really thing
Plastic bottles are so thing, man
12:45
@thecoshman food boxes can be 3mm thick and still bend a lot
> Carbon Fiber Reinforced PLA
@BartekBanachewicz Some are quite rigid, though.
I wonder if it would be easier to just make a plastic mold
@nabijaczleweli wtf... if I try to edit (again) it's already fixed
Natalia has been doing some metal molds for her university thingies
Diarrhea is really a shitty illness
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12:46
sure, a lot of effort, but that still beats anything 3D printed in our price range
@BartekBanachewicz it can be done, but can take some work
> Steel PLA filament is as easy to print as Standard PLA , but because of the steel fibers blended with the plastic, prints are heavier and thus, more authentic . Finished steel 3D prints can be polished and doctored to create beautiful and unique pieces. Unpolished, the Stainless Steel filament looks like cast metal fresh from a mold
@BartekBanachewicz IME the nice thing about 3D printing is quick prototyping.
I think it's ABS that you can use acetone with to help smooth out the finish
@R.MartinhoFernandes well... relatively quick :P
> 11 — Email the mods to get the downvote removed
Oh well.
Ah, I got one clear PLA spool, one black PLA spool, and two white PLA spools.
Should be plenty for some playing around.
Ell
Ell
I want to upload my pasta
It I'm paranoid about exif
Windows?
ImageMagick can prolly do that.
convert <input file> -strip <output file>
On Windows you can open the Properties dialog and there's a thingy to press to remove it.
Ell
Ell
Linux
12:51
@thecoshman So, Robot respects that
@Ell I don't think the internet supports spegitification
Ell
Ell
I will do it once I have eaten :)
@Ell Then use ImageMagick with the convert command I showed.
@R.MartinhoFernandes I definitely want my t-shirt, but if you want to spare yourself the hassle of shipping it I'm fine with taking it in person when I'll come for meeting C++ - assuming you'll be in berlin
@thecoshman ... the typo aaaaaaand the assumption
12:53
@AndyProwl Ok, that works.
I usually just screenshot my image :)
@sehe oh I knew there would be a typo, I just wanted to get the funny.. I shouldn't have tried :(
jpegitification
I don't mind camera and time info on EXIFs, and I usually don't put GPS tags in them, so I don't care much.
Ell
Ell
I think my phone adds GPS automatically
I put GPS tags in them when I'm taking pictures of geocaches.
@Ell Disable it?
Throw it in the garbage?
12:54
garbage
is using the base class constructors a c++11 thing?
someone's garbage is someone else treasure - like carbon dioxide, is a waste gas for humans but it's essential for green plants because of photosynthesis
@Veritas like: class m00 : f00 {using f00::f00;}?
@nabijaczleweli yep
@Ell Camera apps usually have a setting to add/not add GPS tags.
As a last resort you can simply not have GPS on.
user1804599
12:57
@Ven some types need to be known to the compiler, such as the type of strings.
user1804599
How to name them and where to put them?
send it to mars
See how the GPS signal is there, haha!
user1804599
Make them intrinsics and create aliases in some module?
@nabijaczleweli thanks :)
12:59
Can anybody explain to me what is the point of virtual keyword in such context: virtual void doThis( ) final { } (since the method cannot be overriden either way bc of the final keyword?

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