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17:00
@rightfold call syntax should have been 212-555-1123
@Xeo they split it in components
^ like this
I need my own bowl
Xeo
Xeo
wow. nice.
I want that. Baaaad.
I dunno how to use chopsticks tho im scrub LOL
brb eating it
Xeo
Xeo
noob
@AlexM. Damn, if I could order that stuff I'd be eating almost nothing else.
we should all move to Romania
Xeo
Xeo
17:12
@AlexM. Now that I look again, those look more like Udon than Ramen noodles.
17:24
@AlexM. not enough brotein in that meal
Xeo
Xeo
Man, now I wish I was still living in Berlin. We had that Japanese sushi restaurant really close by, and they also served Udon soup.
So good.
@AlexM. Ugh, I just ate and now I'm hungry again.
sms
sms
Hello! I can't find a video I've seen recently on youtube (or channel9). It was about C++11(or 14) mutlithreading and about sending lambdas to a thread to execute. It was from BoostCon or some kind of other *Con. Do you know what I'm talking about?
@sehe Cool story.
who the fuck invented MATLAB
17:34
@AlexM. Learn it. It's not that hard.
@TheArtist Mr. Matlab. His first name was probably John.
@EtiennedeMartel why the fuck did he invent it?
USELESS LANGUAGE
Err.
I'm guessing you don't do maths.
@EtiennedeMartel I do math, but I dont see why anyone would use that to do math.
@EtiennedeMartel I tried it now
it worked at least a little bit
I managed to eat everything with them tho it was sloppy obv
Xeo
Xeo
I remember learning to use chopsticks really early on
it's really not that hard.
God damn I want udon noodle soup now.
Screw you, @AlexM.
17:38
it was really good
I'll order lots of it because holy shit so good
and I thought the ramen they serve at the tiny thing in the mall is good
this one was > 9000
... which probably makes sense
since the thing in the mall is a mcdonald's-like place with random people hired to cook
and the restaurant I ordered from has actual chefs inside
@AlexM. as opposed to virtual chefs inside?
guys, can I ask some technical question here? Thank you.
Xeo
Xeo
@AlexM. twas udon, I'm pretty sure. Those noodles were too thick (about as thick as the chopsticks, AFAICT) to be ramen
shrug
it said Ramen here, it contained eggs and soy stuff so I ordered it
Xeo
Xeo
@Borgleader "hello, I'm a wildlife photographer photographer"
the pork had lots of fat but was well boiled so it was trivial to take the fat away
what kind of people eat fat I don't even
@Xeo yo dawg, i heard you like photographers
@TheArtist are you the phd?
@StackedCrooked Why would ThePhD create an account ~6 months before nuking his real one =/
i mean... that seems unlikely
17:44
to trick us
@rightfold I don't think there is a syntax for that.
Maybe you should ask on stack overflow?
I need to pay a visit to the dentist
front teeth started breaking
as in, pieces fall off
Multiple teeth affected? Did you have an accident?
user1804599
My code works almost now!
user1804599
Only problem is that you can't call variadic methods with zero arguments.
17:47
@fredoverflow nope no accident
a small chuck of the top left tooth fell off
Maybe you bite your teeths often
and now a big chunk on the front of the top right tooth fell off
I also have fluorosis
Like during the night
user1804599
yay it wrosk :D
17:49
@Jefffrey Teeth is already plural.
Yeah, sorry.
maybe I have a lack of calcium or sth
wouldn't be surprised with my diet
user1804599
@Jefffrey Bite your tits.
hello gays
17:55
go away im busy
@FastSnail You took a wrong turn at Albuquerque this isnt the Javascript room.
what i have to do with js room
while (fileName.toLowerCase().endsWith(".csv")) {
    fileName = fileName.substring(0, fileName.toLowerCase().lastIndexOf(FILE_SUFFIX_CSV));
    if (fileName.trim().isEmpty()) {
        throw new IllegalArgumentException();
    }
}
i'm sorry but you're turning everything to lowercase when all you want is last 3 chars to be lower
@FastSnail i looked at your message history, your recent rooms were js/php/html&css
please, js room
17:58
@Borgleader Le Web.
@FastSnail evening
it's recent history not the all history
> Samsung promises to stop disabling Windows Update
A customer service rep told Barker that laptops' USB 3 ports "may not work" due to Windows Updates, hence the apparent need to disable them.
lmao the reason
@Puppy night
#include <iostream>
template<typename ...Args>
auto printer(Args&&... args) {
    return (... + args);
}
int main()
{
    std::cout << number_of_trues(true,false,true);
}
Is there a way I can force bool types only?
I don't want anyone passing in integers or anything else
something with enable_if?
Xeo
Xeo
18:05
enable_if + is_same
or a concept of some sort?
if you use enable_if + is_same, can you get auto type deduction?
why would you not..
this got me thinking about my mental proposal again
it really would be nice
uh i dunno. just asking, because enable_if is normally specified in the return type part right?
doesn't have to be
or are you saying there is a way I can use it in the actual parameter list section?
18:07
yeah...
what's your mental proposal?
I found a good way to support it without being victim to va-args
template<bool... Args> void f(Args&&.... args) {}
call the committee
looks nice. can it be implemented in the language?
I suspect Bjarne will reject this on the grounds of interfering with Concepts Lite
Isn't that what concepts solve though?
18:10
no
couldn't you just make a concept that is only valid for bools?
yeah but that's an awful concept
std::is_same concepts are dumb
concepts allow you to target a lot of types, as well as a single type.
Is your proposal for cleaner syntax on the latter?
Xeo
Xeo
@Rapptz 4 dots?!
Yeah, that is mental!
:P
lol
18:14
prob just a typo
I HOPE
Xeo
Xeo
@TrevorHickey psht. You know that saying about facts and jokes?
I should make the paper
with an FAQ
so where is the go to library for concepts since they don't actually exist yet?
nowhere
18:15
I thought there was some macro solution that was pretty close to what the actual syntax will be that everyone is using right now
lol
"You know guys, I thought there would be a pre-processor solution to a type-system problem!"
concepts lite introduces concept-based-overeloading afaik
Xeo
Xeo
@Puppy Just for the syntax
18:16
which is the only good feature to come out of it
well... I mean it's not pure macros... it probably does all that enable_if madness behind the scenes..
but maybe they removed that too
Xeo
Xeo
@Rapptz ForwardIterator it = blah.begin(); is nice
that already got added
Xeo
Xeo
I know
but it was a pretty late addition, IIRC
just last meeting?
18:17
yeah
you're right though that's another decent feature if anything
so this is the best thing to use right now?
that shit's ancient
user1804599
No, this is: haskell.org.
POINT ME IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION PEOPLE
make it yourself
18:18
.................
where's the paper template
I think I saw some form of concepts being used in eric neibler's range library maybe. I guess I'll look there
Yeah
I don't like the way he does it though
nop
18:22
lol >:(
does any compiler support these right now?
is it some kind of tr1, or whatever?
boost.concept_check is like ancient
some other namespace?
15 years old ancient
well what's the most recent right now?
what should I use if I want to do concept stuff?
enable_if m8erino.
18:25
what's m8erino
nothing I'm just messing around
insert random apellation here
missing a p
watevs
I helped Luc make a concepts thing
I wonder where it is
that's another rainbow
bitbucket
found it
18:30
@R.MartinhoFernandes hey... were you the first to coin "rule of zero"? becuase this blog post make no mention of you vOv
@thecoshman He's explaining the rule, there's no need to go into the origin in the same post.
@Rapptz Specifically the toolkit, if looking for ways to define/use concepts.
@Puppy sure, but you'd think it wouldn't hurt vOv
heyo
I didn't really read too much of that article though to be honest, not in the mood for that shit
18:36
@Rapptz The toolkit is also where you get credit!
ppl are gonna parrot the thing
that's how it becomes best practice
aw shucks :d
old but gold
>lolcats
it's 2015 you know
@Rapptz cats still rule the internet you know
/cc @Xeo
18:38
I'm part of Team Dog.
@Borgleader that's xeo's cat
he still didn't get it
@Rapptz GO CATS.
pfft
Team Dog had better artwork in Miiverse.
Team Cat just had silly lolcatz.
You're just biased against cats.
(the Splatfest was postponed to July 4th so I can't tell you who won)
I think Nintendo's the one biased against cats here.
Showing me bad artwork.
Splatfests are split into parts: popularity and which team won the most.
I suspect Team Cat will probably win the popularity thing because it's the internet.
18:48
@Rapptz These clever dudes, they're trying to harness the power of the Internet to get free publicity.
Japan's Splatfest was Team Rice vs Team Bread.
Team Rice had a good chunk of the votes.
Not sure who picked Team Bread.
Europe has Team Pop vs Team Rock.
Speaking of Splatfest.
I should probably vote for Team Dog.
Also, I just realized... July 4th? Don't you Americans have some sort of patriotic duty of not playing foreign games on that day?
Ell
Ell
Doesn't concepts lite add good error messages?
18:52
@EtiennedeMartel Yeah...
Ell
Ell
So overloading isn't just the only good feature
@Ell static_assert adds good error messages.
Ell
Ell
you can't name the type not satisfying requirements though right?
That seems key for good errors to me
[with T = [...]] is already part of the error message.
Aug 23 '14 at 6:36, by Rapptz
In instantiation of 'constexpr bool gears::concepts::require() [with T = float; Concepts = {gears::concepts::Container}]':
test.cpp:6:31:   required from here
./gears/concepts/alias.hpp:99:5: error: static assertion failed: Concept Violation
     static_assert(And<Concepts<T>...>(), "Concept Violation");
     ^
> Detecting Nudity With AI And OpenCV
Ell
Ell
19:00
I guess that's pretty good
:O intelligent porn crawlers
Ell
Ell
@AlexM. I always wanted to try that
I think there is a market for it
this looks like a job for...
Jun 3 at 20:47, by Alex M.
> dude hes the porn enthusiast
I keep laughing at that message it's so damn funny
the spelling, the which implies he's the only one in the world who's a porn enthusiast
everything is so great
@Ell crowd sourced tags + accurate titles and youre done.
@Rapptz woof woof motherfucker
boy I need to buy a fan or something
19:13
it's gotten hot here again too
had to start the AC
what weird weather anyway
almost july and had 13 degs outisde
19:23
bah
I feel so depressed
@CatPlusPlus What's MUD?
something that evolves into runescapes
if left unattended
bah
I feel like playing factorio
user1804599
Multi-user dungeon.
I'm trying to recompile glibc but am getting an error, can anyone help me?
user1804599
19:35
No.
user1804599
You didn't post the error.
user1804599
So it's impossible to help.
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Q: Patching glibc on Arch Linux fails with __libc_multiple_libcs

strikingI tried to recompile glibc on Arch Linux with a patch to increase thread local storage space so Unreal Engine would run, as https://answers.unrealengine.com/questions/238341/sdlopengl-splash-screen.html says. It doesn't work for a totally unrelated error. How do I solve this error? I've already t...

I got the tumbleweed badge for this one :(
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Nice.
Any help? I've asked everywhere. Even the glibc mailing-list folks didn't get back to me...
19:37
@TrevorHickey OKAY. WWW.GOOGLE.COM
I can downvote you, does that help?
@TrevorHickey That's where I'd look
@sehe every result I get @Rapptz says is old and not being used lol
@Puppy If by "help" you mean, put me further into my depressive downward spiral, then: yes! Please do.
> depressive downward spiral
19:39
@TrevorHickey There's proof Niebler's is used
@AlexM. As opposed to a gay downward spiral
yeah, that's what I'm going to use. He just doesn't seem to have much documentation on actually using it and creating your own concepts.
@TrevorHickey I didn't say "not being used".
Look, I'm sad, okay? Please help me :(((
(More seriously, I've asked everyone that I could. No beans.)
@TrevorHickey yup. at least it has some documentation
ha, I know. I just don't want to waste time on something that is outdated if it's going to give me problems later
19:41
@striking hint: acting larmoyant tends to get people annoyed :/
@TrevorHickey using any kind of concepts implementation is pioneering by definition.
ya, the generated docs are good. Plus, Neibler has been good at responding to my emails in the past.
Learning a new word cheered me right up.
Is there any help to be found here? Any other places I can look?
@TrevorHickey Don't use it when you need stability. If you still want it roll your own and just enough so you can support/maintain it by yourself. After all that's exactly what Eric did
but Eric is smarter than me, and if anything breaks later, it's probably for a good reason
@striking Just SO. You could consider a bounty
> and just enough so you can support/maintain it by yourself
yup
19:44
"can I have concept library now plz?" Bounty +150
why do you want concepts so bad?
@TrevorHickey And then you get 10 links to 5 "imlementations" that you already know about and 5 implementations that you didn't want to know about
you make it sound like your family was kidnapped and unless you use concepts somewhere they get killed
@striking Don't mind
They're just a good idea. I might as well use them now in some capacity, and cut down on the hours of bad compiler messages.
plus, re-writing code will be a breeze when they do exist in the language.
19:47
sounds to me like you're over-using tmp
@Puppy yeah, probably
@TrevorHickey That's the thing now: they're just prototypes emulated in more TMP. So you'll get more hours of bad compiler messages, only then not related to your problem but internals of the concepts emulation layer
@sehe That's what static_assert is for
good point. Well I haven't tried any yet, so I don't know how much better/worse it will be.
Me neither. But I wouldn't look around insecurely about which one to use. I'd just go with Nieblers to get the hang of it. Don't build your house on it just yet
19:50
word
guys, is there a table with the rules about implicitly default/deleted constructors/operators?

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