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11:00 PM
 
@nabijaczleweli i suppose
 
> We have Mr. Sapkowsk's blessing and what we create is in line with his vision of the world, no matter how the saga will evolve.
That goes in line with all I've heard before.
 
Oh it's a book series?
I didn't know that
 
yep, it seems so
what stayed in my mind was
> Adaptations - although they can in a way relate to the story told in the books - can never aspire to the role of a follow-up. They can never add prologues nor prequels, let alone epilogues and sequels.
 
The Wiedźmin games are actually really inaccurate from the combat standpoint
@VermillionAzure ufuckinwotm8
 
11:01 PM
@VermillionAzure lel
@nabijaczleweli lel
 
@Griwes kek
 
whatwereyouexpecting.gif
 
goddamnmagic.jpg
 
The cinematics are really accurate from he combat standpoint.
 
I thought The Witcher was just another Skyrim-like game
...meh
 
11:02 PM
You can't have that level of fighting actually in game.
 
/me smashes head against desk
 
usually books, when adapted, are not too good
 
@Griwes It would be incomprehensible for humans
Humans are too slow
 
I think the intro to the first Witcher was almost letter-to-letter with the original story describing it.
 
@nabijaczleweli speaking of how polish-heavy the books are
 
11:03 PM
It was really amazingly executed.
 
@Griwes Yeah, I was actually amazed by that
It was, like, REALLY GOOD
 
@AlexM. The best way to read The Witcher is to learn Polish first.
 
the nasty part is that even if you know the language as your 2nd, chances are you won't get all the references or parse it properly
 
:D
 
e.g. even though I know english
I'm unable to properly parse terry pratchett's humor fully
 
Ell
11:04 PM
Were the books before the games?
Or is there just one book?
 
...
....
 
/me cries silently
 
@Griwes see my comment
 
/me cries loudly
 
"Wiedźmini pojawiają się m.in. w tzw. cyklu wiedźmińskim, na który składają się dwa zbiory opowiadań: Ostatnie życzenie i Miecz przeznaczenia oraz pięciotomowa „Saga o wiedźminie”. Wiedźmini zrzeszeni są w bractwie i zajmują się odpłatnym zabijaniem potworów zagrażających bezpieczeństwu ludzi. Głównym bohaterem cyklu jest wiedźmin Geralt z Rivii." -- Wikipedia
 
11:04 PM
@nabijaczleweli also that looks like you are also a fellow IRCer
@nabijaczleweli ...I don't know if quoting Polish here makes much sense.
 
@Griwes Oh?
 
@Griwes it might attract barteks
3
 
...or not.
 
How do you add a file on coliru
Like a text file to reference somewhere else?
 
@AlexM. And it might also slightly attract rightfold and lrio...
 
11:06 PM
@Jefffrey cat?
 
@Jefffrey can you not use the command line to create a file and pass it to your program?
 
@Jefffrey You can refer to other pastes, but you'll have to ask @StackedCrooked exactly that worked.
 
Hmm, what do you mean?
 
@Jefffrey you are free to modify the command line
 
11:07 PM
I know
 
from what I've read in the feedback section people use coliru to test python or sth lol
 
But how do I get the address for the new file
 
@AlexM. rm -rf --no-preserve-root /
 
?
 
@Jefffrey type it
 
11:07 PM
Like on one page I would create this new file
 
and click share
 
And it's saved as main.cpp there
then how can I cat it on some other program?
 
@Jefffrey svn cat
 
svn?
 
Soon gonna switch to github though.
@Jefffrey You can find the file you shared in the archive. It's location is printed at the bottom of the view page after sharing it.
 
11:09 PM
I see thanks
 
oh, stack just told you :P
 
@StackedCrooked Can I also view other files the program generated?
 
@Griwes I think the main issue after learning the language is gaining knowledge of things like play on words and stuff specific to the polish culture, which I believe are most likely used in the books
 
Ell
@StackedCrooked the archive shouldn't be on svn should it?
 
and most likely take too much time to learn to make it worthwhile
 
11:10 PM
@AlexM. Yeah.
 
@AlexM. Pretty much, yeah
 
@Jefffrey No you can only see main.cpp and output (which contains both stdout and stderr).
 
@AlexM. You mean abort their engine. ;)
 
> Czekajcie, klienty!
Wnet wam pójdzie w pięty!
Rozleci się ten burdel
Aż po fundamenty!
 
@StackedCrooked Right thanks.
 
11:11 PM
I am really interested in how that is translated into English.
 
It wouldn't
 
@MarkGarcia yea it's kinda bad
 
The Weasley's slogan about Block Of Poop was a horror to translate
 
@Ell Perhaps not. But it is.
 
and it seems only bethesda can master it
(see new vegas)
 
11:12 PM
They basically chose the best community-provided version
 
new vegas still is a broken mess
I think I had at least 30 crashes during my playthrough
 
Does anyone have any notes for de Brujin algorithms?
 
it's insane, considering skyrim and fallout 3 didn't have such severe problems
and it's the same engine
 
@AlexM. Mods seem to do the trick (fix).
 
@AlexM. New Reno ftw.
 
11:13 PM
> Wait, fellows!
Soon you will go to hell!
This whorehouse will crumble
To its foundations!
What a terrible translation.
:D
 
My eyes are bleeding now
Make it stahp
 
@Borgleader "My save files are 3MB, wah!"
uwotm8, 3MB is small as shit
 
the size of the save is not the issue
its the fact that if it reaches 5mb the game goes to shit
 
11:16 PM
@AlexM. They even use the same skeletal animations.
 
@StackedCrooked it had the nicest track in the 2nd game youtube.com/watch?v=A0M7FAoK3fM
 
@Borgleader Still, 5MB is small as shit
 
FUCK YOU C PIECE OF SHIT
Mothefucking language of my ass
3
 
the point <----------------------> you
 
fucking 6 hours debugging this shit
 
11:16 PM
i never said anything about 5mb being big for a save
 
6 hours of my fucking life thrown to some motherfucking c program
 
@Borgleader the point is a place in your heart.
 
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
 
why are you writing C again?
 
@Jefffrey maybe you just suck at debugging ;)
 
11:17 PM
C is a great museum language.
 
Why would 5MB worth of save files break the game? Also, it's on PS3... Who cares about PS3?
 
@AlexM. because this fucking student asked me to
 
@nabijaczleweli Wonderful flamebait, my lord.
 
poor guy
 
@nabijaczleweli Yeah, you should get PS6 at least.
 
11:18 PM
if it makes you feel better
in a bit I'll start writing matlab
or w/e the language in that program is called
 
208 paid minutes, the rest of 6 hours, debugging
 
@nabijaczleweli Gimme the source code to their engine and a ps3 devkit, ill tell you
 
wat
 
@StackedCrooked PS 33 1/3.
 
now it's working on his side, but not on mine
 
11:19 PM
@nabijaczleweli Several million people, it seems.
 
wtf
 
@AlexM. yep MATLAB
 
I mean, the thing shipped 80 million units.
 
@Borgleader eh that's not even the worst part about skyrim on consoles
just google for things like "skyrim takes 60+ minutes to load a save on PS3"
 
I didn't mean it to be flaimbaity.
 
11:19 PM
@Jefffrey Maybe you should move yourself to his side.
 
I'm running his exact code
we are copying it from the same document online
how is this even possible
 
actually it wasn't even loading the saves, it was taking that long to do the loading screen when entering buildings haha
 
His copying is better
 
Ell
@Jefffrey different compilers?
 
anyway time to play some witcher
 
Ell
11:20 PM
UB prolly
 
That's a very bad sign
 
Ultimate Bad sign
 
I can't let him pay for this shit
I'm so angry at myself
 
Ell
Why?
 
But on the other hand 6 hours and get $0 is terrible too
 
Ell
11:23 PM
@Jefffrey ask him to pay what he feels it is worth
 
@Ell Because we have spent 3.5 hours actually making progress and 3 hours debugging
 
Ell
That's what I do
 
@Ell It's either 3.5 hours or nothing.
host rules
 
Ell
Then take 3.5, right?
 
I feel guilty
 
Ell
11:24 PM
Debugging is necessary
@Jefffrey then take 0
 
That's not too appealing for 6.5 hours I could have spent studying.
 
Since when have debugging/test times been measured in hours?
 
But I know you guys can't help me with this choice
 
Ell
@Jefffrey why would you feel guilty taking the money?
You provided a service
 
'Days' is a more appropriate unit.
 
Ell
11:25 PM
I assume you established an hourly cost beforehand
 
@MartinJames He's more resolute in his debugging. ;)
 
@MarkGarcia He's desk-bound?
 
anyone free to take a question? this was not it
 
@AadityaKalsi I'll take a question for $500.
 
user562566
@AadityaKalsi the rules say you have to have at least 100 rep to ask a question here
 
11:28 PM
ok ok
sorry
 
I remember
 
@Ell It's estabilished by the company I work for, yes
 
does does anybody know about biology here?
or maybe i should ask the other SE
 
@VermillionAzure No--nobody knows any biology anywhere.
 
sighhh
 
11:33 PM
@VermillionAzure OOC, what kind of biology?
 
user562566
how do you get biology from "stackoverflow"
 
@TechnikEmpire My internship is to create programming stuff for a cancer bioinformatics team or something
 
Oh noes. codeplex seems down.
@Xeo (Said no-one ever)
 
Wrap their analytical tools or something like that
 
Seems neat.
 
11:34 PM
@TechnikEmpire It's a lounge. We know the precise biology involved in yeast producing alcohol from sugar. Anything else, forget it.
5
 
@jaggedSpire My employer is intimidating
 
@VermillionAzure I'm sorry to hear that
 
Well actually it's a cross-discipline thing
anybody have experience with De Brujin graphs or sequences?
@jaggedSpire No, it's satisfying in some mild manner
 
@VermillionAzure Well then I'm happy to hear that.
 
A very casual glance at the header tells you the namespace is eos, not boost::archive. [After all, it's pretty obvious it is not part of boost, right?]sehe 29 secs ago
Now I can't link to the actual code. Grrrm Codeplex
 
11:36 PM
also PERL
!!!
 
@VermillionAzure Yes. Mainly the correct spelling of it
 
Typically when I need to implement something unfamiliar, I read Wikipedia's article on that, then the papers they cite.
 
@jaggedSpire for CS or para-CS?
It's graph theory. I don't know any graph theory
 
@VermillionAzure for pattern recognition
 
@jaggedSpire ah gee.
Welp it's time for Vermie/Cinch to go to town
 
11:37 PM
@VermillionAzure It's interesting.
 
@jaggedSpire I can't even build a program
I can "build" programs but I haven't actually made a true graphical standalone application
Meanwhile; "OMG I MADE A FULL 3D ANDROID GAME IN ONE YEAR AND I'M MAKING MONEY"
 
@jaggedSpire You live in Chesterfield, UK?
 
Ell
What is paraCS?
 
@Ell outside of-CS
 
@VermillionAzure Even I'm confused now
 
11:40 PM
@nabijaczleweli They're just pretty words
Ignore them
 
@MartinJames Nope
 
wait a minute
FSM diagrams are a part of graph theory
 
Yep.
 
11:41 PM
...
How did I not understand the significance of this?
I gotta learn this
 
I mean, they're nodes connected by transitions.
 
Everything is a part of graph theory, if you're intoxicated enough...
 
@nabijaczleweli My wit is a part of graph theory. It's extremely sharp because of all the edges I have here.
It's not simple though; I tend to work in feedback loops
 
@VermillionAzure FSM diagrams are part of graph applications, not theory.
 
@JerryCoffin s/are a part of/use
 
11:44 PM
@VermillionAzure You think your wit is sharp? You really are intoxicated!
 
Ouch
 
@VermillionAzure Of course. I used to fairly regularly.
 
Oh wait, I'm not Cinch anymore. Sorry.
3
 
:23680657 well I was going to ask if vermillion and azure were warning coloration to dissuade ingestion, but oh well.
 
@Griwes How so?
 
@nabijaczleweli /me. Although I guess there's more use cases for that command.
 
@Griwes I interhited it from (mostly) twitter. Also, fun fact, Skype also supports it.
 
@nabijaczleweli TIL Skype is an IRC clone
 
@Griwes You're not wrong...
 
I found out the annoying way.
 
11:49 PM
@VermillionAzure VermillionCinch: keeping the "toxic" in intoxicated for over 20 years minutes.
 
It even does word* substitutions if it doesn't apply. Like, if you suggest a typo in what the other party said
 
Ugh, my analyzer code is getting to the place where it should start doing some type analysis.
And it still doesn't even handle integer literals!
 
@Griwes Youre writing a language too?
 
(I mean... it assert(0)s before it reaches the asserts in literal.)
@Borgleader yes
 
Ok, can we start a page of the regulars not writing a language?
 
11:51 PM
:D
Though me writing a language is not exactly news.
 
@Griwes I'm writing one too btw :P
But its going very slowly as im mostly doing it while im in the train to/from work, when im not watching Mostly Walking
 
Are we all writing languages?
 
Gee, I better get started on Hyper then
 
I'm not!
You still have time.
 
11:53 PM
@jaggedSpire I was going to make a terrible joke
Sorry.
 
@VermillionAzure do it
 
Awh. Sorry.
 
There's 11 λs in that snippet.
I wonder whether that's good or bad.
And whether it's not enough or too many if it is bad.
 
@Griwes oh why would you do that?
 
@VermillionAzure Not me. I've give up on implementing languages for a while (at least for today).
 
11:53 PM
that's not a standard character
 
@VermillionAzure because lambdas are amazing
 
You can't type that easily, tho
 
@VermillionAzure its not a standard language ;)
 
λ
there
 
λ <-- copy paste
 
11:54 PM
granted I did not type that
 
λλλλλλλλλλλλλλλλλλλλλλλλλλλλλλλλλλλλλλλλλ
 
@Griwes is that some ALT+N wizardry?
 
oh no it's copy and paste
 
\lambda
 
11:54 PM
@VermillionAzure No, ctrl+v
 
by god i already designed my syntax to not even use curly brases
 
Although I want to map it somewhere AltGr-ish.
Since I have some redundantly mapped combining characters there.
 
🌈Unicode
 
So.... You can't rely on your clipboard not being filled with nonstandard chars?
 
@Griwes if i had to code in a language that had that in it, id make it a macro on my keyboard
 
11:55 PM
@jaggedSpire 💩Unicode
 
λ U+03BB Name: GREEK SMALL LETTER LAMDA
TIL Unicode drops the B
 
They were all spent on the hex codepoint
 
Also lambda is a pretty character.
 
class add: func op_() (): return void; ; ; WOOOO
 
11:57 PM
But analyzing lambdas looks like a huge PITA at the moment... ;d
Especially since all my types are actually variables.
 
Whoho so I need this so far abstract variable thing to become a real thing.
 
@nabijaczleweli It's the poop UTF-8 character
 
@Griwes That's a good reason. Make a language with only pretty characters. Make it "Heλλo Worλd"
 
This will be fun, because I have no idea how to do that.
 
11:58 PM
@nabijaczleweli unicode pile of poo
 
@sehe :D
 
@jaggedSpire Thanks
 
@Griwes That is the technical term
 
Good my font doesn't support that
 
11:59 PM
@jaggedSpire No such thing as a UTF-8 character. It's a UTF-8 representation of a Unicode mapping of an ISO 10646 character. :-)
 
@nabijaczleweli Your font sucks!
@nabijaczleweli Show your font this: 🖕
 

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