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Ell
Ell
@Puppy oh jesus
> This lasted 10 minutes.
Hello
@R.MartinhoFernandes Efficient.
18:07
BTW Speaking of video games, one of the more popular games on steam just went partially open source: github.com/KeenSoftwareHouse/SpaceEngineers
@R.MartinhoFernandes Yeah. That's weird. I mean, you kinda have to give enough details for the buyer to be able to make a decision, but by then the buyer just got your idea for free.
I know
> To play Space Engineers you need to own the game on Steam. Assets (audio, models, textures) are not included in this repository.
and it's not "just", it was like, three or four weeks ago.
So 80% of what a game is is still closed.
I wonder why they call it "Space Engineers" if what they're really open sourcing is their engine.
Well, I doubt there's a clear gameplay/engine separation.
18:12
I doubt your mother in bed
^every time puppy makes a your mother joke
I doubt that you're sexually active to begin with.
Any of you guys experienced with MinGW?
Ell
Ell
Hey android m got individual permissions again I think
18:16
@Ell What does that mean? Like disabling permissions for specific apps?
Ell
Ell
@Prismatic yeah like disabling camera permissions from facebook, for example
@EtiennedeMartel ow
So is that a no then? :/
Ell
Ell
@EtiennedeMartel burrrrrn
1. Get f2p games that spy on you/make you watch ads 2. disable internet permission
18:18
@Skylion it's more a cant-you-see-we-are-chatting?
@Skylion Literally not one single person here is experienced with MinGW.
Ok, thanks.
@R.
@R.MartinhoFernandes I hope so, it's a chatroom
@Columbo I tried to make a forced generalization out of that.
@sehe You're so funny. Please leave your wife so we can be together.
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I will suggest this when she comes down
18:24
@R.MartinhoFernandes Don't fuck (with) my mother.
@sehe You mean, if I kill her, I'm yours?
surely
Murder is illegal in Dutcheria.
Ohhhh comes down to your floor. Sorry, understood it figuratively
They're weird like that.
18:25
@sehe I wanna send you flowers, where do you live exactly? Nevermind, give me your wife's address if she lives somewhere else, so it can be a surprise
@Columbo Send tulips. They love tulips.
@EtiennedeMartel Bitches love flowers
@EtiennedeMartel Bitches love links
Only the subs.
18:29
I wanted to pet this dog the other day
That bitch was so wet though, and so hairy
That combination was kinda off-turning
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Good morning!
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I had this wanderful idea.
> Takeshi Kishimoto, then-Google’s Japanese product manager: I used some external power. I went to the product manager of Gmail, who manages everything about Gmail, and got [him to agree] that [pile of poo] is the most useful emoji.
@rightfold please enlighten us
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18:40
Implementing Sawzall.
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The official implementation hasn't been updated for years and the build and tests fail.
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Naughty Google.
@R.MartinhoFernandes Source?
Nvm, it's here
The beast has been slain!
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???
18:52
I've been struggle to compiling this Linux commandline tool to Windows
and now I've done it
Hmm, anyone know any good commandline arguement parsers?
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@Skylion golang.org/pkg/flag worked well for me in the past.
auto t1 = ({
    auto t = 6;
	if(x == 0) t = 6;
	else { t = 8; }
	t;
});
Does anyone know what that^ construct is called in C++? It doesn't work in MS VC++ 2015 but works in GCC 4.9.
@Noein Kinda scala-ish but compound-expressions alone? What is this?
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18:55
It's not C++.
Hmm, anyone know one similar to GOptionParser
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It's a GNU extension.
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Avoid at all cost.
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@Skylion GOptionParser
Yeah, but I've been porting a program that used it
18:55
Looks like "simplified" lambdas...
so I would prefer one with similar syntax
@Noein I looks interesting.
so I don't have to scratch my head on how to parse it.
@Noein expresion blocks, IIRC. It's GNU only
18:56
try GOptionParser
@Noein This can be simply replaced with a lambda
But then I would have to port it into Windows
which would meaning hooking it into the GTK
Unlikely. Why would it not already be ported
Got it. Thanks guys! (Do I run the risk of lots of 'extensions' with Clang too? Encountered many of those for GCC and MSVC++ already :/ )
@Noein Not lots. But yeah. They have extensions.
18:58
@sehe I would love to find one, but alas.
Usually, unlike MSVC they're not enabled by default. And clang's extensions are pretty hardcore (more linked to llvm and objective c++)
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@Noein use -std=c++14 -Wpedantic.
"Clang" even the name is hardcore
@Sehe would you know of any ports of it?
Of what. GOptionParser is just a word, you know
Yeah, but everything I found is more based off of POSIX
19:01
You know. You still haven't told us which library that is.
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boterbabbelaar
Links work better
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superkek
Niet echt, maar goed
Oh wait. Google being too helpful again
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Maybe I should configure log rotation.
19:03
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A: How to compile & use GLib with MinGW

Andrejs CainikovsYou need to use MSys, it is downloadable from MinGW site. Using MSys you will be able to build GLib: http://www.mingw.org/wiki/Bootstrapping_GLIB_with_MinGW

Use MSYS2
It's better than MSYS
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> Mandriva goes out of business.
user1804599
Good.
@rightfold Didn't it change name?
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Microsoft ftw.
19:05
Oh wait, that wasn't a name change
It was a fork
forks that extinguish the parent project are effective name changes
@rightfold You're doing it too overtly
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Install Gentoo.
That is ridiculous.
Yes, so ridiculous.
19:19
Say, a C++ panel at a conference will naturally be all-male or have Kate Gregory.
Man, last GoT ep.
It is awesome.
At cppcon, apart from Kate, there was one more female presenter.
In a talk about boost stuff, iirc.
@EtiennedeMartel What's that? Male shaming?
Ell
Ell
@EtiennedeMartel ugh
lefties eh? ;)
I kid, that was intentionally inflammatory
@Ell You are not wrong.
Fucking SJWs.
19:24
> All male references in academic work are also welcome
I think the above tumblr is there to elicit reaction. You could argue it's not making any point with that.
@wilx And I guess it also had nothing to do with the original story? :F
@Griwes I do not know. I have not read the books.
@wilx I don't see any "SJW" in there. You might be jumping to conclusions.
I couldn't watch the fourth ep. of this season beyond few first minutes.
19:26
It's your loss.
Some of the changes were ok-ish, but others... erasing entire storylines, entire awesome characters... :/
I just answered an old question about make running without a makefile. If I left anything important out, let me know. (I can post link, if demanded, but you can find by looking at my last answer.)
Also Sansa in Winterfell. What. The. Fuck.
Ell
Ell
don't spoik plz
I'm rather happy with experiencing a different tale. It feels lot less... repetitive.
Ell
Ell
19:28
I'll have to come back later
@R.MartinhoFernandes They are spoiling unreleased books now, you know.
While also changing storylines.
I might come back to watch these episodes when books are finished. Not going to do so earlier.
19:29
@EtiennedeMartel Discussion about things is normal people discourse. Shaming is SJWs' tactics.
If it's a different story, you get a different experience. If it's the same story one will spoil the other, whether you want it or not.
@wilx I don't know, I see plenty of shaming from non-SJW.
"shaming" is an asshole's tactic.
Has nothing to do with your stance on "social justice".
If you prefer to have the books unspoiled you just have to set your priorities that way.
@wilx That's an interpretation. The tumblr itself doesn't say anything about shaming.
19:31
@R.MartinhoFernandes The thing is, the story in the books is - in my humble opinion - far superior than the variant in the tv series, and I prefer not having the better part being spoiled by the worse part.
What I see is a bunch of twitchy people jumping to conclusions.
Well, then don't waste your time with such poor derivatives.
@R.MartinhoFernandes Also I like when good stories are repeating ;)
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Q: When can a static variable be declared c++?

Rodrigo PinaWhen can a variable be declared static and why cant it be declared in a class and when should it be declared?

lol
You can be declared as a class variable. — BLUEPIXY 10 mins ago
19:33
@ScarletAmaranth You're gonna have to be patient - last year's appeared in like September.
This year it might be slightly better, due to various circumstances, but it's not going to be "soon".
Xeo
Xeo
om nom nom. Mashed chickpeas with tuna and select condiments.
@wilx That being said, there needs to be a discussion about why so many of these panels are all male. Many times it's justified (see @R.MartinhoFernandes's example about C++, for instance), but sometimes it isn't (the US are famous for having all-male groups of politicians discuss issues that only affect women). Shouldn't we talk about those?
I agree that trolling people is definitely not the right way to start a discussion.
@Etienne yes. There's a better way to get a proper debate going: start honest and on point.
The tumblr has no selection criteria whatsoever other than "it's all male".
It's basically an incoherent rant.
@Xeo mashed chickpeas --> humus?
It's not even a rant. It's just bait.
It just wants to start a fire.
Xeo
Xeo
19:41
@Prismatic Hm, guess I did make some kind of hummus.
with tuna, though!
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Man.
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I just took an epic diarrhoea.
Be the change.
strums guitar kumbaya...
@EtiennedeMartel Why shouldn't there be all male panels? There are all female panels/groups discussing men all the time. As long as the discussion is with reasoned arguments, it should be fine.
@wilx Reread what I wrote.
19:47
This is typical feminist male shaming. IMHO.
Gotta have the token.
@EtiennedeMartel I did.
Because I think you're replying to something that doesn't exist.
The token makes it all good.
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Don't discuss sexism and feminism with moralists.
19:48
@EtiennedeMartel No, I am replying to that "unjustified" part of your reply.
Respect to the stakeholders.
@wilx And how does that say there shouldn't be all male panels?
@EtiennedeMartel "Isn't justified" signals to me that it should not happen.
checks the gender of his gui elements
@wilx Yeah, but there's a bit before it that says it can be justified.
So they can exist.
19:50
user image
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I really don't get how you managed to get to the conclusion you got to, unless you didn't really care about what I wrote and just wanted to stand on the soapbox.
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Yes, closing braces indeed do.
@EtiennedeMartel My point is, I disagree with your second half of that statement. I think it is absolutely normal for males to discuss females' problems and vice versa.
@wilx Mine was just an example. Not saying it's always thus.
Let me make my point simple: you can have all male panels, just like you can have all female panels and any mixed variety. But you should be able to justify it. Neither should be the default.
@Prismatic You are utterly clueless about how to format code, and pictures don't change that.
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K&R probably did it the way they did to save whitespace in their book.
@JerryCoffin Did my variable naming prefixes upset you that much
@wilx Of course females discuss males' problems--they need to spread their lore on how to cause those problems.
@JerryCoffin :)
19:54
indentation doesn't matter - there, it's solved.
@Prismatic I don't know maybe people like Google? But they obviously don't write anyone actually uses. :P
@Prismatic Not at all--here I'm talking about being so clueless that you'd waste an entire line for an opening brace or allow a tab anywhere in your code base.
wait that didn't come out right
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@Prismatic jQuery is terrible.
19:54
@JerryCoffin lol "waste"
Y'all know I didn't make these posters right
It makes code cleaner and easier to read!
saved u a seat http://t.co/N5MeWXQhrT
Because we'd miss out without lori
@Griwes It makes code uglier and harder to read--and means less code fits on your monitor at once, which is much more serious.
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I like the glass one.
19:55
@JerryCoffin Less code visible at once = code being more readable.
^ not true according to studies but it doesn't matter for most stuff to be honest.
The worst mess is when you have shitloads of code without a single (semi)empty line for entire screen.
@Griwes You mean, you can read lines without code faster than lines with code?
Darn I need an fmap.
@Griwes I read that as "I need a fap." I am sorry.
Projecting...
19:57
@Griwes structure is visible by indent and bracing. Not by removing lines further. You can adjust your vertical line spacing preferences in the editor
Welp, here we go, time to reinvent "prelude" again.
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Statements and verbibol declarations that are related can be grouped together by separating the groups by blank lines.
the same/new line brace war is really meaningless. On the same line it means that more fits on screen, on a different line it makes the separation of the construct and it's nested code more clear. Whichever you prefer is personal and can easily change.
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Whether it is more readable or not is subjective.
Less visual noise == code being more readable. But I mostly do Python.
19:58
@AaronHall And it's also the reason I've grown to like it. I like how you can ogle from a distance how involved code is.
The main point for me is that using braces (or whatever) on separate lines by default is that it makes the variance between "inhabited" and "uninhabited" lines too big.
I want my lines to be code lines, or not. Not something in between.
That said, I will deviate from this "rule" if the face of the code needs it for "quietness"
I sometimes do stuff like
@sehe The world is not only black and white! There is a lot of grey in here as well!
Do you guys newline stuff to keep it < some number of columns
 rule = something
       | something_else
       | last_thing_for_now
       ;
but emacs style or gnu style?

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