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11:01
Cicada!!!!!!!!!!!
I can't play agario :(
what is that game about?
Hi Tony
11:02
@buttifulbuttefly what's been going on?
@Mr.kbok hi
I need inspiration
nothin much just working i missed you
I don't know what industry I want to code for next
tryina debug some shiz
@buttifulbuttefly same here
@buttifulbuttefly awww
copyright is bullshit
can you guys hack a windows server?
11:04
bullshit is copyright
@khajvah no.
@Mgetz cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/… This sounds like the dumbest movie ever made
@TheForestAndTheTrees yeah... and I suspect that Voltage pictures execs are groaning about it right now
"Godzilla fights a Gundam, Anne Hathaway sings I Dreamed a Dream in the middle to stop them"
ars-technica always fucks with my head
I see ars and the only thing that comes to mind is butt, not IT related things
11:05
i just noticed...buttiful is Cicada
hi Cicada
@TonyTheLion Why not biotech?
Do something useful
@DonLarynx congrats
@Mr.kbok I know nothing about biology
also, is that what you're in?
Neither do the biologists
No, I'm in finance
@Mr.kbok same here
but I don't know if I want to do the same
I wonder if Robot got unlost?
11:08
New Robots have GPS
@Mr.kbok you rich piece of fuck
@AndyProwl What are you working on?
on his desk obv
@buttifulbuttefly Unfortunately, I expect you will be able to buy a regular boat before me with your HK salary
Spending too much on hookers
11:10
It's never too much
@buttifulbuttefly Large drinks of liquor?
Guys: I'm a monk now.
^ Her name is apparently Catherine Hooker. Or possibly the designer of the dress is the C. Hooker.
Ms. Hooker
11:12
yeah that's the kind i'm doing (no)
I have adblock, can't see
Ell
Ell
I think a career in trading would earn more than programming in finance
@wilx she kinda looks like scarlett
@Ell I think entrepreneurship earns you more than programming
11:13
@Andy I'm right outside Usti
Yeah that's too bad you can't make a career in trading anymore
Ell
Ell
you can't?
Why not?
The growth of the industry is over
0
Q: Possible exception thrown by CFile in MFC Library

Peter GCurrently, I am investigating some code that uses the CFile class from the MFC Library to open a text file. I found two kinds of error handling in the code: 1 try { // Code using CFile here } catch (CFileException& e) { } 2 try { // Code using CFile here } catch (CFileException *e)...

Ell
Ell
since when?
11:14
Should get to Decin in the afternoon and Bad Schandau (Germany) by the end of the afternoon.
liro getting rekt
No one is hiring, there won't be any room for new traders except if people leave
Ell
Ell
ah well
Depending how I feel and how much light is left, I might try to make it to Pirna
@Ell after 2008 crisis it lost a lot of momentum
11:15
@Ell Since the financial crisis and the slew of regulation
Your attitude of how you're trying to handle the issue tells a lot about how you internally processed that sentence. Which btw, was just an advice. — Karoly Horvath 39 mins ago
strike
OTOH there's much more work in finance because of regulation, so you can still make good money as a programmer
yeah it's ok
user562566
@wilx you were googling "hooker" weren't you
Xeo
Xeo
lolz. VS'13 has an auto-format for "inserting space between binary operators and their operands". Unfortunately, that also formats std::vector<T> to std::vector < T >.
fuckers.
11:18
Next time just link to the source. In this case the question is more of a comment to that answer, in fact. — sehe 9 secs ago
Of course it'd do that
@Xeo lol
@buttifulbuttefly No. I was "checking" a different Spirit feast (^^)
Xeo
Xeo
Hey now
11:21
today is not a particularly nice day.
Xeo
Xeo
It hasn't been a month yet.
wow agar.io is fun
Nice month
I got fired today.
@BartekBanachewicz pourquoi
Xeo
Xeo
11:21
Ow
oh shit
sorry to hear that
@BartekBanachewicz wut
@BartekBanachewicz ouch, what happened? :(
Apparently my attitude of writing good software using good code and proper practices isn't particularly fit to gamedev.
14
At least that's what I've been told.
Xeo
Xeo
Did they tell you before that your current way of doings things is not appreciated?
This sounds a bit sudden.
11:23
@BartekBanachewicz any particular case?
@Xeo kinda-sorta. It's not as simple
@AlexM. pascal
Xeo
Xeo
snake
@buttifulbuttefly you're unnecessary
We started a new project and I got tasked with something rather hard and complex and took a bit too much time.
11:24
@buttifulbuttefly Took me some time.
@BartekBanachewicz I see
I should've pushed that to someone else and do trivial things to familiarize myself.
And well, it's not the first time that happened either.
They can fire someone just like that?
How is the job market where you live?
Well it wasn't "just like that".
Xeo
Xeo
11:25
I believe Bartek was a "contractor", rather than a full employee IIRC?
@Xeo no, that's irrelevant.
Xeo
Xeo
Okay
@BartekBanachewicz I vaguely remember you got into it with a coworker over some stuff. Or something
I still get two months.
Xeo
Xeo
ah
11:25
@BartekBanachewicz :D
so that's not that bad and @Johan it shouldn't be hard for me to find next job
@Xeo read pretty relevant o me
I think I might try finance sector this time.
@BartekBanachewicz good, sry to hear, no fun.
@BartekBanachewicz sorry we're closed
11:26
Yeah it sucks
hey maybe your next job will be in haskell
Xeo
Xeo
22 hours ago, by buttiful buttefly
My company (a hedge fund) is recruiting C++ programmers in Hong Kong and Shenzhen, ping if interested and reasonably competent.
:D
You know I've been fired before, too
11:26
I've never been fired
Shenzhen
You know dunno I've been working here for 7 months already
Shenzhen is the silly-con valley of China
that's not like, terribly short, innit?
fucking starbait
11:27
kek
@buttifulbuttefly you're so easy
it's not because you get fired that you can do that
its not that long
@BartekBanachewicz it sort of is
Xeo
Xeo
I've been at my current (and first) job for almost 2.5 years
11:27
I don't care I have a pretty good starboard score today
sort of
anything under two years is probably quite short
It doesn't really matter. You can leave after a shorter time if you're not fit for the company.
I have no idea how you manifested your coding stuff at work but
Xeo
Xeo
Man. Has it really been that long already.
if it was with the same fervor that you manifest it here
11:28
I think I still haven't find my place TBH
@AlexM. I think "manifested" is the right word
I think it would be wise to tone it down on the next job
@BartekBanachewicz You like Haskell, no? Or so I've heard. Standard Chartered, big British bank is 100% a Haskell shop.
this job was more of a "oh wow there's an occasion and I just lost my job"
@Xeo ____ was ____ years ago
11:29
@buttifulbuttefly only if I have the time to do 1k messages a week here ...
Xeo
Xeo
@Prismatic Oh no, not the ____!
@buttifulbuttefly The closest where I could work with Haskell is southern poland or overseas contract.
Or London.
I am not really willing to move, which p much restricts me to the tricity area
@buttifulbuttefly So Haskell, they have their Haskell compiler.
which is quite big actually.
11:30
either way, the finance job posting I saw had effectively double my wage here
@LucDanton Because Haskell's lazy-by-default nature is horrible!
Maybe we should seize the opportunity and start a software company
Kyrostat Corp
lol
and what would we do
@TechnikEmpire Yes. :D
hi guys what's going on in this thr- oh. — buttiful buttefly 11 secs ago
user1804599
11:33
@fredoverflow NO
Well either way if you find some interesting remote offers kindly forward them to me.
wait no that name is cursed
@BartekBanachewicz argue about the intricacies of code anality
@BartekBanachewicz buy a bike and shed on it
11:33
@BartekBanachewicz I recall sehe proposed some kind of spyware business
I made that word up
@Mr.kbok lol
user562566
@wilx excellent. although it's more discreet and you get the same results by googling "massage therapist"
@TonyTheLion one could've said you pulled it out of somewhere
@BartekBanachewicz lol
11:34
@TechnikEmpire lol. Thanks. But I wanted the alternative meanings. :)
@buttifulbuttefly Also the answer to the question is "by pointer"
join our start up
@buttifulbuttefly I’m told it has interoperability with Excel. Obviously that’s the core feature.
loungey.io
nerf weaponry for all
There's a lounge startup?
11:36
planning stages
by which I mean not really
Hello All!! I need some suggestions from anyone. :) — Peter G 4 mins ago
he's so enthusiastic
@buttifulbuttefly: Thanks, as always, for your valued input. An example to us all. Keep it up! — Lightness Races in Orbit 4 mins ago
Count on me!
I love this nickname because I get people to write "butt" at least twice per message when they reply to me. /cc @Lightness
hi lori!!!!!!
Wow I didn't realise we now have to pass an exam set by Karoly Horvath before we're allowed to answer questions on SO. Are you going to write your own answer or not, Master? — Lightness Races in Orbit 1 hour ago
@butt how are you doing
@DonLarynx I just love this reply
It's so juicy of frustration
i don't want lori to blow up
11:46
Anyway 7:46 it's time to go hoooome
lol +2 on my answer
if it gets accepted tomalak will implode in rage
LOL
omg this is too entertaining I can't leave right now
yeah you can
Trolls, trolls everywhere. I will leave you petty children to it. – Lightness Races in Orbit 15 secs ago
lori deleted her answer :<
11:52
awwwwwwwww :(
that wasn't very nice tbh
tempted to undelete
so no.1 way is not possible for catching a pointer type of exception since MFC throws exception by pointer?? is that what you mean?? — Peter G 1 min ago
omg is this guy for real
@AlexM. you forget easily
collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status
11:54
@buttifulbuttefly forget what
Perfect, exactly all the information I needed.
@Mr.kbok doesnt seem so enthusiastic now.
why does my code compile ugh
it shouldn't
@Mr.kbok Now delete your answer for maximum trollage
11:56
in Android, yesterday, by McAdam331
You know, I submitted ten jokes to a word play competition trying to win, but no pun in ten did.
Will lori reach 160k rep? Stay tuned...
@buttifulbuttefly lol
That's tempting but I want my 30 points
30 points is three weeks of rep
understandable
three weeks?
user3010322
<_>
12:04
the average reputation accumulated during three weeks
user3010322
I'm reinterpret casting a c_string pointer to a std::string.
user3010322
Along with a few other things.
user3010322
This can only end well.
Ell
Ell
That sounds like a bad idea
@ThePhD wut
user3010322
12:09
@Prismatic Shhh.... Don't worry about it.
user3010322
How's your framework stuff coming along? :D
@ThePhD this can end in any way, because it's UB.
been working on the rendering stuff for really long, progress is in the shitter
The output of the parser isn't the expected one. — Grigor Aghanyan 1 min ago
grrr
@GrigorAghanyan I believe you already said that. Am I not being fast enough for you? — sehe 17 secs ago
user3010322
@BartekBanachewicz You're back! How're things?
At that point I'd just drop it.
@ThePhD you're not one of the perceptive folk, are you
user3010322
Uh.
user3010322
12:12
.... M-Maybe?
50 mins ago, by Bartek Banachewicz
I got fired today.
user3010322
... Wut.
Ell
Ell
@BartekBanachewicz oh shit man I'm sorry :(
12:13
lol it's almost like the starboard didn't exist
user3010322
Is that what that 7-starred message is about?
user3010322
I can only see a 7-starred message nad an 8-starred message.
@Ell it's fine. kinda. maybe.
user3010322
(My screen resolution height is only 900.)
@ThePhD yes
@ThePhD lol, I forgot
@R.MartinhoFernandes see above, I suppose.
user3010322
12:14
Q_Q need to buy a new screen.
user3010322
But, uh. Damn. That really bites.
Ell
Ell
When one door closes another one opens, I guess you just have to be positive
I wonder why do Senior C++ dev roles list Java on the requirements list
@BartekBanachewicz Because the companies that post them are not worth looking at.
:D
yeah I don't want to end up in a company I don't want to work for again
12:17
@BartekBanachewicz because they use it. duh
this time I actually have quite some time to look properly and send more letters
@BartekBanachewicz cough. Give it a day or two.
where do you live Bartek?
under a rock
@sehe ok I phrased it badly. I'd like to avoid getting a job that won't fit me again.
@MarcoA. Northern Poland
@sehe under a rock or under a bridge?
Emmenthaler
Ok. Cheese eaten. Back on the road. See y'all later. Good luck @Bartek
you'll find another job just fine
12:19
@BartekBanachewicz C++ -> Java interop in the company?
you just need to brush up some of your skills... like jQuery
@AlexM. More like "writing Java in Java and in C++"-style company.
it could be anything
I recommend finding out at the interview
@R.MartinhoFernandes have a safe... trip. See you.
@Griwes how do you know.
12:21
@Jefffrey Nothing fun. There's a broken C# application I have to fix
@sehe I expect that, that's all.
@BartekBanachewicz Sorry to hear that :( Hopefully you'll find some place where your skills are valued
plot twist I actually can't C++
@Griwes Funny. Because "more like" sounded like a correction
@Nooble here's a badass AWP shot to look up to if you like the weapon :D
12:23
@MarcoA. I could work with JS I suppose
@BartekBanachewicz I think you "can" all languages if you're motivated. Don't sweat the details. Sweat the direction
other AWPers you might want to search for to see how they play are kennyS, Skadoodle, GuardiaN and pashaBiceps
@sehe I expect that more than the other.
@BartekBanachewicz would you?
I've been using JS more and more in the last year or so
I don't know enough frameworks and tools though
most of the JS jobs are regular, copypaste frontend mundanes
12:25
pick up some frameworks of the following:

class Framework.JS : public Node.js {}
I like R&D. With the emphasis on R.
and try to have some fun doing something with them
A colleague was explaining his work in memetics to me. I asked about Dawkins and Blackmore. You guessed it...
Now I'll be left forever guessing what makes Dawkin immediately associated with memetics
@BartekBanachewicz Are you sure? Because it sounds a bit like research tasks were quoted as a reason for lay-off?
user1804599
hstore is very nice.
user1804599
Can do queries like this:
user1804599
12:27
select exists (select id
                 from event_log
                where event_type = 'invoice.download'
                  and metadata @> hstore('id', invoice_id::text))
ahaha. I hadn't looked. Only glanced at the bibliography
@sehe We didn't do any research here, really.
Well, I didn't.
Most of my tasks were either bugfixes or porting features from other codebases.
Working surrounded with our framework all the time.
Except when I wrote tools. Tools were mine and they were actually decent.
today on Puppy Does HTML: Puppy has to render his script tags as display:none.
The bad news is that the fix rendered many sites unreachable, including the main website at the University of Michigan, which is home to many of the researchers that found the security hole
Yo dawg. I heard you liked security patches
user1804599
12:31
I reduced page loading time from 5s to 200ms by rewriting the predicates in SQL instead of fetchning everything and filtering in Python. :3
@Puppy whut
@rightfold slow_clap.gif
user1804599
@sehe consider it a kind of speedup loop.
user1804599
The client is very happy now!
@sehe I'm using a library which for some reason backtracks through the DOM looking for a visible character. The script tags are all rendered at the bottom of the body and then I'm working on a temporary div below that. So the library is backtracking through over 600 script tags trying to find visible characters.
so I rendered them inside a single display:none div and time taken drops from 8 seconds to 8 milliseconds or something like that.
user1804599
Make a single script tag instead of 600 script tags.
12:34
we do that in production
but not for development
user1804599
Nice.
user1804599
user3010322
Puppy's a webdev! Congratulations!
user3010322
Also fucking -Wtautology warnings on clang.
user3010322
if ( sizeof( std::size_t ) == sizeof( uint32 ) )
user3010322
12:36
Yes, I'm aware it's redundant, but that's the point. Writing a compile-time switch for these is dumb.
static_assert?
user1804599
Make a function template same_size that takes the two types.
user1804599
That way you won't get the warning.
user1804599
user3010322
12:39
@Puppy It's not for validation: it's for compile-time behavior switching.
then clearly a compile-time switch is what's required.
@ThePhD dwelve into the hellish depths of tmp
gaze into the horror of std::enable_if
reel in terror at the inevitable compile error messages
user1804599
Why does "fishing" mean catch fish but "flying" not catching flies?
user1804599
Checkmate atheists!
12:43
Because catching flies isn't a common enough activity to deserve its own name
oh
@BartekBanachewicz It's not that irrelevant
@CatPlusPlus actually works for me this time I suppose.
user562566
@rightfold That reminds me of the "chrome vs " videos where they're comparing chrome's browsing speed to various things, implying your internet experience is so much faster. If you look closely at the address bar, they've mirrored all the sites they've "browsing to" to a local drive
user1804599
Today was a great day.
@TechnikEmpire They did various other things too if I recall correctly. The videos were still awesome though and browser render time can matter... just not as much.
user1804599
12:44
@TechnikEmpire link
user562566
k sec
user562566
go to 54 seconds
@TechnikEmpire thats just shady
user562566
@Prismatic It's pretty awesome, especially how even in low res you can clearly read the //C:/.... link in the address bar
user3010322
12:47
@TechnikEmpire Wow.
user3010322
That's pretty shady.
user1804599
@TechnikEmpire lol
user1804599
The web is indeed a composed of a bunch of Rube Goldberg machines.
@Prismatic Not really. When trying to show your browser's rendering speed, Internet lag is just noise that makes the test less reproducible and less meaningful.
in fact
they explicitly state this stuff in the description of the video you linked.
oh boy a modern sotn
I hope its good
12:58
I tried one of the castlevanias for the ps1
but it was too hard
user562566
@Puppy Yeah but they still cheated by using the forward button instead of a clean render
I have a hidden (possibly encrypted) message which I can't decode
it was posted on a job posting
anyone wants to try?
@AlexM. im disappointed in you if it was symphony of the night
user562566
@Puppy I'd argue that you could replicate the exact same video with even the shittiest browser
@Prismatic that one I think
I just picked the highest rated castlevania I could play

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