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3:00 PM
Yeah. My friend texted me about finding a map in the mail.
 
user1804599
end if > end > }
 
(And writing her name in Chinese wrong)
 
> Many new users to Rust experience something we like to call ‘fighting with the borrow checker’, where the Rust compiler refuses to compile a program that the author thinks is valid. This often happens because the programmer’s mental model of how ownership should work doesn’t match the actual rules that Rust implements.
 
sounds amazing
you know, one single thing I love in Haskell is that you don't have to think about ownership because you don't deal with references
 
@Jefffrey Yeah, I've experienced that. But now it's more of a "how the hell can I write programs differently". I bet it's a bit like when I first learned Haskell. Seems to make no sense in the beginning but then it gets clearer
 
3:02 PM
Anyway, off I go again
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Enjoy!
 
if you don't have mutable data, everything gets much much simpler
I thought Rust also is immutable by default
 
it is
I still haven't figured how to take advantage of immutability
 
@BartekBanachewicz You all suck
> 8 000 - 14 000 pln brutto - dopasowane do umiejetnosci i doswiadczenia programisty
 
especially in imperative languages
 
3:03 PM
8 000 - 14 000 PLN BRuTTO - dOPASOWaNE DO uMIEJETnOSCI I DOSWIAdCZENIA pROGRAmISTY
ah fuck @sehe
 
:D
 
Xeo
@AndyProwl I think I'd be pretty fucked with immutability in my current data structure
wiring up cross-references after the fact.
 
the hell are you guys deciphering?
 
@sehe how the hell
 
lol implicit move
 
3:04 PM
28 mins ago, by Bartek Banachewicz
http://www.pracuj.pl/praca/c%2b%2b-developer-gdynia,oferta,3925577
@BartekBanachewicz XOR encrypted
 
so cat was right
 
cat should take that job
cat wins a job
 
let v = T()
let v1 = v
 
@sehe My Polish isn't very good
 
user1804599
@sehe with what key?
 
3:05 PM
behaves differently depending on T
genius
 
@rightfold That was the riddle, I guess. (EXPERIS)
 
user1804599
@Jefffrey only statically
 
@BartekBanachewicz of course he was. Also, Google was right.
16 mins ago, by Bartek Banachewicz
we're overthinking
 
what did you search for?
 
What do you /think/ ?!
 
3:07 PM
this particular string/offer/message?
 
user1804599
for fVhAVUJJXmVJREVCWUNlCBwLUgsBMAwEClJEUyEXAAQBBgQkFhVFFgZTMBUZABgMBysXAwYbSRplHB8W‌​BQASIRsKABwAEmUoAgoVGxIoEQMRCw
 
Damn right
 
that sounds like cheating doesn't it
 
Overthinking²®
 
user1804599
3:07 PM
No.
 
user1804599
When at your job, you also use Google to solve many problems.
 
8-14k isn't bad either way vOv
 
user1804599
Instead of reinventing the wheel.
 
@BartekBanachewicz I knew it was bound to be XOR (tried rot13 first, though, on the base64).
 
@sehe lol
 
3:09 PM
I assumed it wouldn't need a key
also salary in terms of 1x-2x, that's not very useful
 
It is. It tells you what they pay
 
€1.9-3.4k gross
 
@rightfold how is that less terrible?
 
user1804599
I don't think it's terrible at all.
 
3:13 PM
They don't, they give you a 100% margin of uncertainty
 
so "negotiable"
I was right
 
Easy way of circumventing chess.coms IP-ban: Log in with a VPN, go into live chess mode, deactivate your VPN.
TIL.
 
> easy
Well. Depends on how much you care
 
@Mr.kbok still better than nothing
 
I don't know what that represents compared to local salaries, but if a company advertises a job where the salary is > 0.7 mine and < 1.4 mine then I'd say the information is pretty much useless
 
3:14 PM
also it's not 0-x, it's x-2x as you've noticed
 
@sehe I have one installed anyway, so it's trivial for me. Don't you have one ready at all times?
 
user3010322
Guys.
 
I dunno I don't need that much of a raise I suppose
 
@BartekBanachewicz 0-x would be infinite margin :)
 
user3010322
Does std::char_traits<const char> mean anything useful?
 
3:15 PM
@BartekBanachewicz You're back?
 
@Mr.kbok Of course not. If thy state [x,2x] and you desire 3x, you're out. If you have 2x you know there's not much perspective
 
@ThePhD Why would you use that?
 
user3010322
@Columbo Generic wankery.
 
@Columbo Yes. I don't. Also, ~~effort~~
 
@sehe and in my case, being on around 1.1x means it's a lot of perspective
 
3:16 PM
Or you're underselling. Honestly I can't tell from where I'm sitting
 
@sehe actually... they offered me more than I wanted here
so I was more than happy with my compensation
 
@ThePhD Keep in mind that there is no explicit specialization for char_traits<const char>
 
gtfafahjfh fuck having to look for a job
 
user3010322
@Columbo So I've learned.
 
so annoying
 
3:18 PM
@BartekBanachewicz arent you still in uni?
 
@BartekBanachewicz Hey, Bartek. I'll ask again. You're back?
 
@ScarletAmaranth yeah I think so
@Columbo dunno yet
 
@ScarletAmaranth He's a developer :)
@BartekBanachewicz lori is gone AFAIK
 
he'll be back
 
He'll be back
 
3:18 PM
Hell be back
 
he'll be back
 
Hell be back
 
I'm back
 
user1804599
he'll be Back
 
he's back
 
3:19 PM
Bareback
 
@Columbo you suHe'll be back.
 
he's bach
 
No bareback no
 
what the fuck (also rhymes)
 
Never finish on the bach
 
3:19 PM
lori is back already anyway
surely a clone is here
a couple of days ago I learned lori uses clones
I thought only cicada did
 
gLRiOus
 
everybody does
even rightfold
 
I don't
 
lori is one of cicada's clones you ignorant
 
yeah that one took a long time to pull out
 
3:20 PM
I kinda wish someone contacted me with a ready offer again
like here.
this saves so much time
 
@sehe Sure. I guess it depends on the variance :)
 
yesterday, by buttiful buttefly
My company (a hedge fund) is recruiting C++ programmers in Hong Kong and Shenzhen, ping if interested and reasonably competent.
 
One in Hong Kong
 
Oh wait
 
Here a 10% gap in salary for the same age is quite a lot
 
3:21 PM
Reasonably competent
Sorry
 
@buttifulbuttefly is remote an option
 
not even remotely
 
I'm not sure, depends on your skill level I guess
 
reall
y
 
Xeo
@BartekBanachewicz You wanna do C++ voluntarily?
 
3:21 PM
@buttifulbuttefly how about if I put in "awesome"
@Xeo no, for food.
 
I know we have a very good guy working in the US remotely
 
Dunno if that's "voluntarily" or just "survival instincts"
@buttifulbuttefly also fucking timezones
 
But why not relocate though
Ah yeah you have a gf blaaaablaaa
 
is boat programming accepted
 
Xeo
goat programming
 
3:23 PM
bloat programming
 
@buttifulbuttefly also I'm just finishing renovating my own apartment
 
@Mr.kbok Does it float
 
I'd really rather not move.
 
Then let HK come to you
Unlikely though
 
I wish code mentoring brought enough money in
 
3:24 PM
interesting that in Rust you can declare verbibols without initializing them and without specifying their type
 
@BartekBanachewicz Does it bring any?
 
@Mr.kbok With your experience I'm p sure you can get over 8-9k€ here
 
(I'm gonna use the word verbibols all the time from now on)
 
IT IS PATENTED
 
user1804599
@buttifulbuttefly it isn't the best country in the world, unlike the Netherlands.
 
user1804599
3:25 PM
@AndyProwl types can be inferred from later expressions.
 
Feb 22 '13 at 21:12, by Etienne de Martel
Oh, wait, that verbibol tag? @Cicada added it. Back in november.
 
user1804599
Hence you can overload on return type as well.
 
I think I would like the Netherlands
 
@rightfold Yeah, I figured
I just find it odd
 
goodtiems
 
3:25 PM
I don't see what's the advantage of allowing that
 
Except for the required military service
 
what's a verbibol
 
let x; is just confusing
 
@AlexM. lol
 
3:26 PM
what did I say something bad
 
@AlexM. it never ends
 
Ell
Maybe you can't declare variables in a loop header
 
0
Q: Is their a way to have the base class use the verbibols created in the parent class?

Ted pottelI have a base class to handle images to be dragged on the screen. It veribols for the name, and x,y position of each image. Then it has methods to scale them and do other operations. I would like to have 2 of these classes, but the imegs name and x,y postion would be diffrent. I first tried t...

 
Everyone keeps asking what's a verbibol
 
Ell
Does rust have do while?
 
user1804599
3:27 PM
@AndyProwl me neither.
 
@buttifulbuttefly Thats a lot of boats
 
@AndyProwl does he mean variables
hahaha
 
yeah
 
actually
 
user1804599
Code with too few explicit type annotations is difficult to understand.
 
3:27 PM
original maymay donald steal
 
some good news came in actually
 
@Jefffrey Question is... would the Netherlands like you :S
 
@rightfold ikr
@Jefffrey Too much non-sun
 
wanna hear good news
 
clouds and water from sky
@BartekBanachewicz Vlad got banned again?
 
3:28 PM
@sehe Unlikely
 
I was going to become a teacher at a local something-private-uni-academy something
I thought it's like for free
you know, just for the fun of it and teaching people
 
Today China's richest man lost 14 billion euros in 20 minutes, on the markets
 
turns out it's actually quite a lot of money
 
Everyone in the office was laffing
 
user562566
@buttifulbuttefly poor guy.
 
3:29 PM
so if I get into teaching I might sustain on that teaching alone
 
@buttifulbuttefly cool
 
Good.
Because the answer to the question is irrelevant
 
hope that money didn't go to the second China's richest man
 
Xeo
A second China?!
 
3:31 PM
that's like what happens on agar.io when the second ranked eats the first ranked
 
user562566
@Xeo we're doomed
 
@AndyProwl is everyone playing that now
 
I'm playing that shit way too much
 
whistles
 
3:31 PM
On the (a | (b | c)) vs. ((a | b) | c); that's not precedence, it's associativity. And it doesn't matter because the binary operators are all commutative here. Also, the implicit and does break operator parsing so you need to update the var rule: Live On Colirusehe 19 secs ago
 
thanks to Jeff and Marco
 
There. Impatient guy served.
 
damn Italians
 
I like playing "Cancer" on agar.io
 
I mostly use "42"
 
3:33 PM
@buttifulbuttefly That's a skin?
I like doge
I think it's too bad that if you want a skin you have an unoriginal name
 
it would all be much more fun if you could join players you know though
especially for team play
 
maybe i could enter mrkbok{doge} or something
yeah
 
i discovered agar.io today. It is amazing
 
rip
 
we need a lounge realm
 
3:34 PM
@AndyProwl you could
 
@BartekBanachewicz how?
 
How?
 
either via an addon or by manually pausing javascript and changing IP of the server you connect to
 
oh, that
 
but I think some changes were introduced recently that broke that somehow
 
3:35 PM
well, I meant without hacking stuff
 
CBA though
 
that's hardly hacking
 
as in "a game feature"
 
inb4 rebuild your kernel to play agario
 
3:36 PM
lol
 
@AndyProwl I was going to say that
 
@AndyProwl yeah, I was playing it today instead of working.
 
@khajvah this is how your next month will look like, give or take
 
lol
 
@buttifulbuttefly Today I made 3€ on the market. Master trader
 
3:37 PM
I love the team version
 
they should display the total mass of each team though
the pie chart is hard to read precisely
 
I can't play at work :(
 
I can but I won't
 
> Should you require access for business purposes, instructions on how you can apply can be found here.
 
user3010322
typedef steady_clock high_resolution_clock;
 
user3010322
3:38 PM
Not sure if bad or good.
 
@Mr.kbok I will block the url myself so I don't play
 
typedef is bad
using
 
Urgh I got killed by Ebola
 
happened to me too
 
I never made it more than 9th on the leaderboard
 
3:39 PM
I make it to 1st place regularly
 
My girlfriend can't stand to watch me play; she finds it "too stressful".
 
that's not something to be proud of though
 
user3010322
@AndyProwl I meant from the standpoint of the std
 
user3010322
I wonder how high-resolution steady_clock is...
 
I'm getting tired of this rip meme, I mean, why not change and use rsp or rax?
 
3:40 PM
my girlfriend can't stand me being at a computer cause not enough focus on her
 
AHAHAHAH CACADI SO HUMOUR /cc @Rapptz
 
@buttifulbuttefly +1
 
my girlfriend is my hand, so she is alright with me playing.
 
You have the only girlfriend who is always right. With you playing.
 
@buttifulbuttefly and @AndyProwl, you look too much alike
 
3:41 PM
Butt why?
 
user3010322
 
@Mr.kbok inb4 andy are you cicada
 
user3010322
No need to worry then.
 
> Is it acceptable to bring a notebook and a calculator in a salary negotiation?
what
 
lol
 
3:42 PM
> It is a considerable bureaucratic achievement to accomplish the transfer of thirteen million bodies each year from their homes and families and schools and communities into
government boxes of concrete and metal. It is also a failure of the legal profession.
 
user3010322
"Is it acceptable to be competent" No, of course not, get back in your hole.
 
user3010322
@sehe Oh, you're reading that article now?
 
@ThePhD inb4 buggyadics
@ThePhD on and off
 
user3010322
@sehe It raises some fairly obvious (and IMHO much needed) points about the U.S. Judicial system.
 
user3010322
It's the stuff I could never manage to put to words myself, with people going on about things like the Death Penalty and shifting the goal posts when I was just trying to say that imprisonment at the scale it happens in the U.S. doesn't make sense.
 
3:44 PM
of course the shitty part of the good news is that the semester starts in october
 
I'm maybe going to be a professor too
 
@Mr.kbok oh, really?
as an addition to your normal job I presume?
 
yeah, but it's a very light course
 
user3010322
Mr. Professor kbok
 
user3010322
Now you just need to become a nurse too.
 
user3010322
3:48 PM
Doctor Mr. Professor kbok
 
Waiting in a ferry boat. Legs are now complaining.
Maybe I'll leave Dresden for tomorrow. But so close
 
Ferry boat's cheating! You're supposed to cycle :D
 
@ThePhD how about a Bartek, PhD
 
I'm crossing the river.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes keep us posted
 
user3010322
3:50 PM
You should bike so hard that you ride over the river.
 
Cheater
 
There's no bridge.
 
excuses all the time
 
3:51 PM
Anyway, this is not making progress. I'm just stopping for supplies at the town which happens to be on the other side of the river.
 
then it's allowed
 
I bought two magazines yesterday
guys did a motorbike trip from Poland to Australia
30000km
 
How did he cross the water
 
they shipped them via plane
 
user3010322
@sehe Lemme know when you get to the end of the article, because I feel the author forgot to miss an important point.
 
3:57 PM
Meh
 
waited to pick them up for a month or so I think
 
user562566
@BartekBanachewicz that's cheating
 
He did a motorbike trip via plane?
 
they rode up as much as they can, then just crossed the water via a plane
 
I'd like to drive to China
but I'm no longer crazy enough
 
3:58 PM
either way it was a crazy trip
they went up to 5km high in Nepal
the highest road mountain pass there is
 
I did this last weekend
 
breathing must not be fun at 5km
 
Just had my license :) the road was tough
 
@Andy there's a highway route from Cork to Beijing.
 

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