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20:00
@JerryCoffin Or not
user1804599
Or not
Ornot
Hornot
Hornet
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intruder confirmed
Ell
Ell
hi @rightfold
i cri everytim
What's with the psychoanalyzing (of others) here lately.
Since when can't people peacefully be dicks in the lounge
user1804599
20:01
@Ell hi
Ell
Ell
@rightfold u k?
user1804599
> u
user1804599
but yes i k
user1804599
y
i think sehe is feeling rather introspective as of late
@nick well played
Ell
Ell
@rightfold c001
:)
user1804599
@Ell Please be more cryptic. I almost understood you.
Oh wait, that doesn't apply here
So they changed it, but without removing the quotation marks
20:03
@rightfold Sorry. It won't happen again
user3790646
well...
user3790646
that editing changed everything
i know this is not right place to ask but... is there a way to develop swift apps on windows?
user1804599
no
nope
20:05
lol swift
so, i need mac?
strictly apple afaik
oh i thought you meant build for windows
same difference though, yeah you need a mac
user1804599
No, you need to learn that in English "I" is always capitalised.
user1804599
And that until you do that, you're plonked.
@milleniumbug oh my
20:07
@Stol3x yes
@rightfold But.... iMac!
user3010322
@Puppy Should I run the preprocessor seperately from the lexer?
@rightfold just lazy to type :P
at least until some open source initiative makes a compiler for windows
ideally
20:07
That would be rightfold
punctuation and capitalization is for scrubs anyways
@milleniumbug Also clearly wrong, since the dialog says "written", not "write".
So, you are telling me I first need to pay something to make some money by doing something? apple
you can write objective c on windows if you want tho :P
@Stol3x If you really wanted to badly enough, you could start by writing a Swift compiler that runs on Windows.
20:08
takes money to make money
user3010322
Clang compiles obj-c, maybe you can use clang-for-windows to get obj-c to compile to a windows executable?
I usually write it on toilet paper.
Easier to verify and dispose of that way
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Long live open source!
6 mins ago, by milleniumbug
Oh wait, that doesn't apply here
user1804599
clang supports Objective-C.
20:08
@sehe lol
user1804599
But why would you?
But, writing iphone apps in obj C on windows is possible?
@nick But it honestly doesn't take much (money) to make money in software development. Mostly it takes a good implementation of a good idea.
@JerryCoffin true, software doesn't take much up front capital compared to other industries
unless you're trying to hire other devs..
20:10
Andy pours enough gin for the both of us into my glass and then fills his with water.
@Stol3x no
but writing adobe air apps for iphones on windows is possible
@R.MartinhoFernandes priorities
you can use adobe air to build for iOS on windows
20:11
@R.MartinhoFernandes so youre drunk?
@AlexM. its possible
Damn, it's easier to pay someone to make an app than do it by myself? wow
user3790646
@R.MartinhoFernandes are you brazillian?
@Stol3x I don't get what you want to say
@AndreyErick no, he's a robot
20:12
nvm thought you said it isnt possible
if you can't afford to publish for Apple's ecosystem don't publish there lol
@Borgleader not yet.
lots of people manage to do it so the problem is clearly with you
Even if you can, dont publish there
@Andrey I'm Portuguese
20:12
@Borgleader I need few apps for iphone. I though I could learn C or Swift and write them without having a Mac, but, it turns out it's cheaper to pay someone
But I live in Berlin.
user3790646
@R.MartinhoFernandes That's amazing :D nice to meet you
But I'm currently in Brno
:D
@Stol3x careful, you get what you pay for
20:13
That's what he does when he's not in Amsterdam
@nick And there goes my idea...
@Stol3x How are gonna earn money with open source apps that you paid somebody to make?
@Stol3x hey i'm not trying to discourage you
@khajvah I didn't say that... I wanted to say you can write PHP, C, Java on windows/linux/mac but when you need swift, nope, mac only
hmm
I'm noticing that those languages all have the unifying quality of being shit.
20:17
Visual c++ is windows only
You can say the same about microsoft
user3790646
@khajvah but you can write code that can be compiled in others platforms with cross-platform frameworks or the standard library only
user3010322
> users who have 10,000 rep or more prefer spaces to tabs at a ratio of 3 to 1
just noticed
@khajvah Yeah, the Visual dialect of "C++" (those are scare quotes)
user3010322
20:18
Filthy 10K users.
user3010322
I should get 10,000 and mess up those stats. D:<
i use tabs but let my editor handle converting them to spaces
@AndreyErick it is not microsoft that made it possible. What I am saying is, dont bash on swift just because its compiler is closed sourced
isnt clang open source though
user3790646
@khajvah I see.
20:20
> I learned how to spell bananas from this song
@ThePhD I like tabs too
I belched
Bash on Swift because it's from Apple and like all things Apple it sucks
user3010322
I need 3 new status things for my lexer.
That'll be $7
20:22
@CatPlusPlus no exceptions => no good.
I actually startes the discussion because the guy bashed on apple for releasing closed sourced compiler and then said "long live open source" and just after that he said that he wants to make a closed source app.
user3010322
1 for the types of characters seen since the line started,
user3010322
1 for the types of characters seen since the last whitespace,
Uh what for
lexer is effectively stateless- you only need "position to start reading from".
user3010322
20:24
and 1 for the types of characters seen since the last ... well, wait.
user3010322
I only need those 2.
You just need current state
user3010322
@CatPlusPlus Well, in the case of the now-separated preprocessor, can only have a preprocessor if its {whitespace}# for that line
user3010322
In the case of the regular lexer, identifying float literals versus integer literals
20:26
Also are you writing C parsers
user3010322
HLSL
This probably exists you know
user3010322
Right, but none that parse to SPIR-V.
You don't "parse to SPIR-V"
user3010322
Compile to SPIR-V, whatever.
20:27
Get an existing parser, and write the rest using its output
Ell
Ell
I tried writing a GLSL parser using ANTLR
I couldn't get it to work
I'm bad though, thephd probs will have better luck
Maybe probably because ANTLR takes some learning?
Tabs are the only reasonable approach to indentation.
Ell
Ell
@CatPlusPlus definitely because ANTLR takes some learning
@LightnessRacesinOrbit yes!
> Our server thinks you look like a robot.
I look like robot
Ell
Ell
if I were to write a style guide this would be in it
It's good to have style guides that can be used as antiexamples, like Google's
> However, if I am visiting somewhere and the machines available nearby happen to contain non-free software, through no doing of mine, I don't refuse to touch them. I will use them briefly for tasks such as browsing.
I actually respect him for sticking to his principles
it is not easy
oh wow
we got popular
20:37
wat?
@khajvah He imposes the Pepsi rule on us.
@khajvah We had an hour of silence
@Cinch what's that
how does stallman even manage to exist
@khajvah Stallman has a list of rule when he speaks or something like that
user1804599
@fredoverflow lol
user1804599
20:39
> I firmly refuse to install non-free software or tolerate its installed presence on my computer or on computers set up for me.
However, if I am visiting somewhere and the machines available nearby happen to contain non-free software, through no doing of mine, I don't refuse to touch them. I will use them briefly for tasks such as browsing.
wtf
this guy is like some nutjob leading a cult of fanatics
> I read a book about Java, and found it an elegant further development from C.
> By contrast, I find C++ quite ugly.
this is weird
> A supply of tea with milk and sugar would be nice. If it is tea I
really like, I like it without milk and sugar. With milk and sugar,
any kind of tea is fine. I always bring tea bags with me, so if we
use my tea bags, I will certainly like that tea without milk or sugar.

If I am quite sleepy, I would like two cans or small bottles of
non-diet Pepsi. (I dislike the taste of coke, and of all diet soda;
also, there is an international boycott of the Coca Cola company for
killing union organizers in Colombia and Guatemala; see
> Above 72 fahrenheit (22 centigrade) I find sleeping quite difficult.
(If the air is dry, I can stand 23 degrees.) A little above that
temperature, a strong electric fan blowing on me enables me to sleep.
More than 3 degrees above that temperature, I need air conditioning to
sleep.
Yeah I hope this is a joke
I compiled a tl;dr version of all of this
> My 25-year-old child, the Free Software Movement, occupies most of my life, leaving no room for more children, but I still have room to love a sweetheart if she doesn't need to spend time with me every day.
you're welcome
20:44
is there a javascript->javascript compiler that makes the code unreadable?
@khajvah You are from Armenia, cool. I wanna visit there.
@khajvah That reminds me, I need to learn JS today
Yes? Any obfuscator or packer
my JS internship starts tomorrow
@Cinch RIP
@SeçkinSavaşçı You are always welcome :)
20:45
and since work starts in 75 minutes, I have about 60 minutes to learn JS
Let's do it.
@Cinch jQuery
GOG really wants me to buy Witcher 3 for ENTIRE SIX EURO LESS
@AlexM. my god.
no i have the stuff they sort of use:
> NodeJS/Express and JavaScript in general. Also Mocha/Chai
So let's do this
@khajvah Our local folks are usually quite hostile about armenians, how about there for turks?
20:46
Mocha/Chair is a jQuery submodule
NodeJS/Express also
JavaScript is a jQuery submodule
your point?
@AlexM. ...wat
Because jQuery is the language that supports JavaScript yes
Node.js is a server-side runtime for JS
Much like python is the server-side Python runtime.
Mocha/Chair are testing frameworks
I hope your coworkers have a sense of humor enough to compensate for your lack of it
Express is a Node.JS package.
@AlexM. Forgive me for trying to take a JS joke with no JS background (jeez)
JSeez
@SeçkinSavaşçı I guess it depends on the location. But mostly, our people are ok with Turkish poeple( a lot of us visit Turkey on summers). They don't like the fact that the fact that the government does not recognize the genocide though.
20:49
why do you want a JS job anyway :O
@AlexM. It's an internship; I'm not sure if I have the other one either.
> "Hey, there's room in my tent if you want to join me"
"Thanks, but I brought my own tent!"
And that's the story of why my friends think I'm socially retarded
> No thanks, I'm going to pitch my own tent.
what's the joke there
is it a play on words?
It is the only thing that stands between our relationship I guess
the 2nd comment
@AlexM. I would have so done that...
-.-;
20:51
@Borgleader join the club
@khajvah Our politicians are dumb and people who follow them are dumber. This case should have been solved way earlier.
just kidding I don't go out LOL
@AlexM. srsly half of these hints, if i had been in that situation i would have missed them too
@AlexM. Probably masturbation allusion.
> Cornering me with her two friends and saying I really like you and want to go out with you. I thought it was a trick and said no. She cried. I really liked her too.
I'd have thought that too tbh, if I were cornered
20:53
> pitch a tent
To have an erection while lying down so that the sheets covering you pop up like a tent with a pole in the middle.
from urban dictionary
@Borgleader lol
@SeçkinSavaşçı It is really unfair that because of very few people, millions of others hate each other.
@Borgleader Yay, almost guessed it.
@Puppy You were so right, with SSH it works like a charm. Thanks.
@khajvah That is pretty much the story of life in Mesopotamia and its reach.
20:56
@Columbo Hmm?
user1804599
@StackedCrooked install GNAT on Coliru.
Too much? Too much, definitely
not even a good acronym
just bad all around tbh

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