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14:01
We lost an ISP uplink for return traffic - we’re swapping providers now.
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All major properties should be online. We’re still having trouble with outbound traffic; services like sockets and image upload won’t work.
All services are back online - we’ll be making some additional routing changes are things stabilize later in the day.
feeds is spamming
@Feeds Kickban feeds :P
@khajvah lrio went missing?
@khajvah bartek left?
Ell
Ell
@Columbo lol shit
is that our tomalak?
user3010322
14:21
@AlexM. Who's Lori?
Ell
Ell
lightness orbits races in
I presume
@ThePhD lrio with a typo?
user3010322
OOoh.
user1804599
I don't know what to do.
@khajvah Eh?
I didn't go missing
14:28
good to hear
@Ell No
@Columbo no
why are you googling me
Ell
Ell
there is so much information on the internet
about individuals
it's scary
I'd hate being a celebrity
delete your facebook and google+
Ell
Ell
that doesn't do anything
other people will still upload photos of you at various places
you can refuse to be in photos I guess
sue them :D
Ell
Ell
14:32
That'd make you very unpopular :p
well, if you are not tagged in photos, only very few will be able to find you
with face recognition
> California passed a law that could fine residents up to $500 per day for wasteful activities
great law
although $500 won't be enough I guess
those two talentless fuckers (Kim and Kayne) probably spend that much on toilet paper alone.
user3010322
@LightnessRacesinOrbit ... Lelwat. Damn.
Hi @ThePhD Could I ask you something about an algorithm?
user3010322
14:44
Uh.
user3010322
Maybe...?
Ell
Ell
@khajvah I guess vOv
a lot of imformation is out there though already
@LightnessRacesinOrbit these aren't brightening my day, I want my money back.
@ThePhD There are given three vectors v_1, v_2, v_3 of dimension m where the elements are real numbers.
Can we determine if there are 3 numbers, one from each of the vectors, that have sum equal to 0, with an algorithm that is quicker than $O(m^2)$ ?
@evinda Are they sorted?
14:54
@khajvah No, but we could sort them in time O(m*logm)...
> I'm not too fond of Markdown, so I spent last night implementing my own markup language
@evinda crap like that is why I hate job interviews
@LightnessRacesinOrbit why, it is interesting
for me at least
> Links in markdown looks like this: [Some link text](http://example.com). I find that to be backwards. Therefore, I made the link syntax (Some link text)[http://example.com].
my sides
14:57
@LightnessRacesinOrbit What do you mean?
Too bad you can't downvote github repos
@Cicada lol it's not backwards
it's [THING] (by the way, you can find it at URL)
@LightnessRacesinOrbit No it's (a thing, expression)[it's at URL, array indexing]
It's arbitrary as fuck and I'm always confused by this.
@Cicada Accept both :D
user1804599
what to do
@Cicada 18239816913th dialect of Markdown
Ell
Ell
15:05
@Cicada where is this from?
@evinda I don't think you can.
@evinda What's the O(m^2) algorithm?
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I have a design question, can I ask ya
not even O(m^2)
@milleniumbug "array indexing" rofl
15:08
summing up the elements of 2 vectors only is O(x^2).
user3010322
@evinda Not a clue. Not a fan of hardcore complexity theory.
@milleniumbug We sort the vectors and then we use the fact that the second and third are sorted. So if for a sepcific j, v1[1]+v2[j]+v3[k]<0 we increment j.
How can we justif formally that we cannot find a quicker algorithm than O(m^2) ?
Ell
Ell
I'm a dingus
@ThePhD A ok..
@evinda so you don't consider sorting in the complexity?
15:10
@khajvah O(m*logm) is a subset of O(m^2), isn't it?
@evinda you have 3 vectors
@khajvah Sorting numbers is O(n*log n), which is less than O(n^2) - this means if the bound is O(n^2), you can do sorting pretty much for free (if you sort it Z times, where Z is independent of n).
@khajvah Yes, and all of them rewuire time O(mlogm). So we have O(3*mlogm)=O(m*logm)
ok
that's right
@milleniumbug @khajvah How could we justify formally that we cannot find an algorithm quicker than O(m^2)?
user3010322
@Puppy Do you lex something like a comment starter // into and then resolve that its a comment in the next stage? Or, do you recognize it as a ?
@evinda formal proofs are not easy
@LightnessRacesinOrbit goats are pretty cool
wtf is a comment_begin?
user3010322
Just
user3010322
15:13
The name of an token enum value.
user3010322
There, fixed.
Wide does not tokenize comments.
Ell
Ell
There is no value in tokenizing comments really
Its probably a bad thing
Just put the lexer into ignore state
@khajvah How do they have to look like?
15:14
it's useful to drive some IDE features
otherwise not useful.
@evinda some maths magic
What method do we have to use? @khajvah
I think you have better chance of finding it out in math.se
I don't know
@evinda I think you need to prove that any algorithm that does less than O(n^2) steps won't be able to see all combinations
@milleniumbug And how could we prove this? :/
15:16
@evinda Can't think of anything right now
@LightnessRacesinOrbit lol these goats are boosting
user3010322
Ell
Ell
@ThePhD lots'a keywords
@Ell It's from retarditt
15:21
@ThePhD dafuq lol
those enum identifiers are bad.
user3010322
They are? :c
Someone is making Yet Another Language
user3010322
@Cicada No, just parsing an existing one.
they should only state what the token is... it's for the analyzer to decide what they mean.
15:22
@ThePhD GLSL or?
keyword_typedef for example.
user3010322
@Cicada GLSL and HLSL.
department of redundancy department
user3010322
Well, I can't have my_enum::typedef, because of the C++ keyword.
just add an underscore to the end or so
user1804599
15:24
Let's make a railgun.
Ell
Ell
@ThePhD not a polyglot parser hopefully? :P
that'd be an interesting endeavour
for similar languages at least
user3010322
Nah.
user3010322
One separate pipeline for each.
user3010322
To compile to SPIR-V.
user3010322
Then compile from SPIR-V to HLSL or GLSL.
user3010322
15:27
Such that I can pass HLSL code to OpenGL and it'll just ~~magically work~~.
You can always trust magic
> What do Tim Schaefer and Adolf Hitler have in common? They both burned millions and never accomplished their end goals.
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lol
Ell
Ell
@ThePhD you probably won't have to write a GLSL->SPIR-V yourself
glslang already has experimental support
you could build on that
but the HLSL yeah
oh wait
you're going the opposite direction
user3010322
@Ell Right, I know that. I plan to just grab and use the reference compiler for that job.
Ell
Ell
I keep forgetting you're writing a decompiler vOv
user3010322
15:37
WEll, I AM writing a compiler.
user3010322
A(An?) HLSL compiler.
user3010322
That is going to compile to SPIR-V.
user3010322
(And perhaps directly to GLSL, but for now to SPIR-V).
user3010322
Then I am going to write a SPIR-V -> GLSL.
user3010322
The good thing with this is that I can get all my own reflection information.
15:38
is it theoretically possible to have a assembly->some-language compiler?
user3010322
Yes.
user3010322
Whether it will make sense or not is another question.
if you can prove that the language -> assembly process is reversible
yes
No, it's always possible.
user3010322
Right.
user3010322
15:39
Just whether it will look like the original code is.... another matter entirely.
as long as the the output is the same for the same input it shouldn't matter I think
with just a tiny bit of luck tho
chances are an asm -> code converter would output better code than what the original was
badumtschh
Ell
Ell
@Cicada what if some-language doesn't have a compiler to assembly? :P
or can't have
@khajvah Yeah, MOV EAX, EBX; SUB EAX, 5 ----> EAX = EBX; EAX -= 5;
it will be useless though
@milleniumbug I'm wondering how it would go towards re-abstracting stuff
into classes and all that
15:43
even if it does construct some classes, it won't make sense
@AlexM. that's the hard part
@AlexM. It won't. That would require guessing and creating info that doesn't exist in the executable.
I wonder why streaming services don't use html5 stuff
I just opened MLG's player in a separate window and flash player crashed on me :\
i.e. bullshitting
fuck flash
15:45
Magic le Gathering
user1804599
@rightfold idiots
Actually, nevermind. He just used the wrong word.
Top tip: the phrase "not working" is to be avoided in problem descriptions. It's too vague. Instead, describe precisely what happens (with evidence!) and explain how it differs from what you wanted to happen instead. We cannot divine what you want to achieve from code that, by your own admission, does not achieve that thing! :) — Lightness Races in Orbit 26 secs ago
@rightfold I only got it at the end of the article :<
2slow4u
15:48
@AlexM. Older browsers, ads, DRM
Ell
Ell
I'm bad at vectors aah
16:11
@AlexM. Damn.
@Ell what'snoos
@EtiennedeMartel well I thought the president has some private address nobody knows about or something
like how it happened with bush
IIRC someone leaked his private data a while ago
don't get why people do that
me neither
if only everyone just focused on working for a living :\
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A: Draw an Image as a Voronoi Map

orlpPython + scipy + scikit-image, weighted Poisson disc sampling My solution is rather complex. I do some preprocessing on the image to remove noise and get a mapping how 'interesting' each point is: Then I choose sampling points using Poisson disc sampling with a twist: the distance of the circ...

user1804599
16:24
I want to make a video game.
why is unity's animation system so stupidly retarded aaa
I want to get an event when a specific animation stops playing and there's no simple way to do that
I'm still on level 18.
16:29
we all have our things
Man. I am exhausted.
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A: Is there a term for a product having the same name as its place of origin?

TimLymingtonI think the word you are looking for is toponym. I also think that a list of 'trade products' that includes lesbian needs work (unless your supermarkets are markedly different from ours).

@R.MartinhoFernandes Hey
Ell
Ell
16:44
I need a new bicycle seat
16:55
> smartphone powered by an eight-core
why do they shove in that many cores?
@khajvah Why not?
@khajvah because ppl want them
my laptop is 2 cores
and it is fine
@khajvah it sounds cool
16:56
@khajvah Just because it's good enough for you doesn't mean it's good enough for everyone.
user1804599
Spawn one.
@EtiennedeMartel it is a smartphone, it is not a server. what are you gonna do with 8 cores?
@khajvah Play games?
why not just improve per-core performance?
@khajvah play hs on the go
moore's law, heat, wtv
for the same reasons as on PCs
16:57
@khajvah i think it results in better multitasking
IIRC its more efficient power wise to have more cores at lower clock speed than than less cores at higher clock
@khajvah Power saving.
@EtiennedeMartel so, powering 8 cores is more efficient than let's say 4 more powerful ones?
depends on if you have an application that's threaded enough to take advantage of it.
and simple enough in design to not need the OOO stuff.
you power less cores when you don't need all of them
17:00
I think, the OS is gonna use all the cores no matter what
unless you are running less than 8 threads at once (which is unlikely)
The benefit of multi-core CPU's comes into play when you are running applications that are optimized for multiple CPU core usage.

(This is a gross generalization)
Let's say you're running a game on a quad core CPU and that game has been optimized to use 2 cores. At a certain point in time the game needs to process tasks A, B, C, and D. The tasks would process something like this...

Core 1 - Task A then Task C
Core 2 - Task B then Task D
Core 3 - Idle(possibly doing something non-related)
Core 4 - Idle(possibly doing something non-related)
user1804599
I do not know what to do.
user1804599
I'm extremely bored.
@Coldplay first of all, no game maker is gonna optimize their games for 8 core CPU for smartphones. Secondly, your situation is in perfect world scenario.
@rightfold gaems
17:04
Which smartphone has 8 cores?
you can't say for sure how the OS is gonna run those 8 threads
as it turns out, the octa-core processors are not true 8 core processors
@Nooble Snapdragon 810 has 8 cores
I think, we need mystical's help here
8 cores or 8 threads?
17:06
Galaxy S6
We are back in on our original ISPs (which have better routes). All systems are online. http://t.co/pjtBogHR6J
Oooh that's nice.
> Rather than have eight regular cores in a single processor, the new BIG.little design is two processors – one with four “little cores” and one with four “big cores,” each with their own individual speeds and capabilities.
@Nooble No, there are much many threads running at a time.
which is my point
@khajvah Huh? I mean like--virtual cores.
For example, an i7-4770K has 4 cores or 8 threads.
Since the i7's are multi-threaded CPUs.
17:08
@Nooble we are talking about different 'threads'
I meant processes
Oh.
user1804599
I want to play a board game.
I want to understand the reason of having many cores as opposed to having less but more powerful ones
You can run an application on each core?
the smartphone has more cores than your PC
17:10
Yes.
Well, I suppose you have a point.
but uses only 4 at a time
@bluefog depends how many processes are running
no
http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/more-cores-mean-better-battery-life-the-surprising-truth-about-mobile-processors/
I remember when I made a busy-waiting loop that it would use 100% of one core.
user1804599
no shit
17:12
lol
So there.
You can run more loops.
:D
Yeah I dunno.
@bluefog interesting
this might be the answer
Oh yes, power consumption.
I dropped my rum bottle on the ground :<
@AlexM. EVIL!!!
17:16
now we know
ok, I will believe trust the guys from ARM.
wow I have a gold coin next to my nickname
nice
user1804599
@AlexM. idiot
user1804599
You could've used it to extinguish fires.
funny
user1804599
17:24
what shall I create
does anyone know a good epub reader
for pc
by pc do you mean, windows?
@khajvah yup
> Notice: This version of Shadow of Mordor does not support the Japanese Language.
@AlexM. Crime
17:31
I know
and now my kitchen stinks of rum
I have to clean the walls too :<
does anyone know a good epub reader
@StackedCrooked man, this was hilarious
@Coldplay Install gentoo!
@Coldplay software recommendations.se
you can click on that
it's a link
links are useful because you can click on them
@AlexM. I have a feeling, this is not a good idea
17:34
I hope you enjoy the world of computers and internet
welcome!
@AlexM. thanks
@Coldplay still, consider installing gentoo
@khajvah A lot of people says that Linux is the best os for programming
but why?
what makes it special
@Coldplay it is not
@khajvah so shy so many programmers use it?
17:39
@Coldplay It is open souce, it gives you much better control over your system.
@Coldplay It can't possibly be true, there are much more software for windows than on linux.
@khajvah what language does it uses?
@Coldplay It was originally in English, but it was translated to many other languages.
@khajvah I mean programming laguage
@Coldplay I know that you meant programming language, but it made no sense, so I chose to answer to another question.
@khajvah You like things to be very specific
17:43
Wireless internet sucks.
@khajvah I like you :)
@Coldplay no, I mean, your question made no sense. "What programming language it uses"
@Coldplay what programming language is windows using?
@khajvah I think it uses bunch of laguages
any examples?
maybe
c++
C#
Java
and others
I don't know
17:47
are you cicada?
@khajvah I really don't who is this
person
@khajvah What made you think that I am Cicada?
I didn't say it is a person
@khajvah I mean user
So I'm using my moms PC.
And there's malware everywhere.
Please call 1-855-770-9879 they say.
About to troll these scammers.
inb4 they're smarter than you
17:58
So, a 18 year girl had heart attack from taking some fucked up drug and it hit the news
@AlexM. Doubt it.
Don't want to discuss if they should make drugs legal or illegal
inb4 your mom comes to you and says "go live with your dad, I'm leaving you for a rich nigerian prince"
but, why do they find it ok to post her name and her picture and make a news out of it?
@AlexM. It's probably going to be an Indian guy.
17:59
@Nooble there's only one way to avoid this

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