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00:00
Cool, I'll have to check that out. Is there a free live stream on their site?
That's quite a line up (Merc, Ferrari, Porsche, etc.).
@szielenski they stream via youtube. Check out GTWorld channel (today's race is still only in 480p, they typically upload HD later)
@szielenski And a great debut this year, Bentley.
this race was the first of the season, the first Sprint series in particular
they alternate between Sprint/Endurance (1h/6h) during the season, and you get points in both individually and summed.
all in all, one of the coolest race series to watch and this season I'm determined to watch every race.
my free wifi session is about to end anyway so...
dunno, I'll prolly log in in a few hours
00:18
thanks for the warning
maybe without internet bartek will finally get some work done on hate :p
Standard legalese fare to prevent slander.
Hi
i wish C++ had and enforced that. we'd see a lot of bad people go bankrupt.
the "code must be optimized" part, that is.
or at least require -O2
00:25
Hmm fairly uncontroversial SO election this year. No Alf? No Vlad? H2CO3 not making a return? Pssh.
You forgot to run
Martijn's definitely getting in
did i fuck up his name?
Nope
k
i'm still waiting for LRiO xor Jerry to apply
@AlexM. :P
@Blob lol I literally just read the first time you said that
@AlexM. no
It's hard enough being an SO user. Can't imagine what it'd be like to be a mod.
00:29
probably annoying
all those flags
@LightningRacisinObrit i'd imagine it's less work not being mean in comments
@Blob That's probably just a lack of imagination on your part.
Or possibly an over-abundance...
and you save some work by not being making fun of people in chat too. saves time :D
@LightningRacisinObrit ok you take lines 1-990, ill take lines 991-999.
@DonLarynx how about I VTC, and you VTC
00:32
@Rapptz Also lol, horrible benchmarks.
@R.MartinhoFernandes I don't quite get it though.
Are most C# benchmarks based on Mono?
Night Rekktz. Night Robat. Night Dan. Night Blib.
Night.
Flagged as spam
00:42
@BartekBanachewicz lol good customer service
nn
Also I made a jabbasnake game so you can't bother me with making open source projects anymore
@Lightning 12" pizza blyat
@CatPlusPlus I laffed reading the instructions and the menu options btw
01:04
@LightningRacisinObrit There's my argument for no longer being an owner in this room. Maybe this time around you will "get" it, since it matches your own reasoning there
@MomotapaLimpopo Good :v
01:16
@LightningRacisinObrit You forgot meeeeee!
I have been forgotten :(
@Nooble You and I are among the fortunate few. Now if only he'd forget about the Lounge in general...
@JerryCoffin Hehe.
LighterRaisinsInOrbyte
Hmm I wonder if I could make a cardboard computer case that stands in an upright position. I'm afraid the motherboard might be too heavy to attach sideways.
yooo
what's happpenin bois
?
:D
@Vimzy I'm a koala, not a boi (whatever that is).
The case of Recompute is similar to that of a honeycomb. Cool air easily flows in and hot air quickly radiates out with minimal load to the system fans. During our long-duration stress testing, where we ran the computer at 100% load twenty-four hours a day, seven days a week, the maximum heat measured from a single part was (155 F/68C), cooler than a fresh cup of coffee which is about 200 degrees Fahrenheit or 93 degrees Celsius.
@Vimzy Basically, you'd be looking at median of medians, which is O(N). I haven't tried to figure out the precise number of comparisons for the median of 7 items though.
01:29
I'd certainly hope that all of our computers are cooler than a fresh cup of coffee.
In fact, I'm fairly certain that most electronics hit T-Junction at around 90 degrees Celsius.
@Nooble I've run processors at over 100C a few times (though it does definitely start to shorten their life if you do it much).
@MarkGarcia Hi Mark. How are you today?
@JerryCoffin Were they modern processors? I believe they should start to thermal throttle and even turn off when they reach that point.
@JerryCoffin As most elementary students would respond: I'm fine, thank you. :)
01:40
@MarkGarcia I wonder if lr.io is bought...
@Nooble lol!
@Nooble Yes, most start to throttle somewhere around 100-110. IIRC, in the testing I did they didn't actually shut down completely until something like 130. That was a while ago (Pentium IV timeframe), but I think current processors can withstand about the same (or maybe even slightly hotter).
@MarkGarcia I just checked, it's unavailable :(
@MarkGarcia But are you as insincere as they would be, telling the teacher "I'm fine" while thinking: "how do you think I am, stuck in school when I'd rather be outside playing?"
@MarkGarcia cringe
01:46
@JerryCoffin I'm fine with not knowing what to do right now. :D
@MarkGarcia I'll be happy to give you something to do. You could start by writing this GUI crap I'm working on right now...
@JerryCoffin It looks like Intel's Haswell (and later) processors shut down at 100 degrees.
Or at least that's what people who used furmark to test them say.
@Nooble That's Window's shut down procedure BTW.
@Nooble That was what the spec said on the ones I tested--didn't quite match reality though. OTOH, the thermo-couples I was using were undoubtedly faster reacting and more accurate than what's built into most motherboards too (in fact, if memory serves, the temperature measurement equipment we were using cost quite a bit more than the computer we were testing).
I'm not sure what the MB sensors said, but I doubt it matched what we measured.
@MarkGarcia Interesting.
01:52
@Nooble :P
Does Ark not list the processor's thermal limit?
@Nooble Nope. TDP and SDP are the usage limits, not really the physical limit.
@JerryCoffin Every release.
@MarkGarcia Oh. Looks like I could boil water on my processor after all.
@JerryCoffin That's an expensive thermocouple.
@Jeremy I know :(
@Nooble Oh, sweet - I can use Croatia's top-level domain for my name :)
Oh, no i can't
lol if you think you can register two-letter domain in any TLD
@Borgleader Yes! I get it!
02:25
@Borgleader Took a while for me.
@Nooble The individual thermocouples weren't all that expensive, but if memory serves we had them in a 6x6 grid on the top of the processor, along with a multi-channel meter to collect and and log the measurements.
Yeah, that's what I thought, too. But: "A free .hr domain can be registered by:
• legal entities (trading companies, associations, political parties and other organizations with legal existence) registered in the Republic of Croatia;
• private individuals engaged in an independent business activity in the Republic of Croatia (craft workers, artists, doctors etc.)..."
@JerryCoffin Ahh.
@Jeremy That has no relation to what I said
Weird. Why is reddit using cloudflare?
02:35
Why not
@CatPlusPlus Please accept my apology: beer.
@Jeremy I believe he prefers vodka.
Vodka and beer are the two ladies in my life
Thank god there's a good local vodka
Hm. Do middleware game engines (UE4, Unity) convert model data (FBX, OBJ) into something else when publishing the game?
@Jeremy What does god have to do with it?
02:37
Magic fairy dust
@JerryCoffin I'm sorry, I'm going to have to refer you to reddit.com/r/christianity
Importing a .blend is the same as importing .fbx, since Unity doesn't really import .blend, it just makes Blender open in the background and export .fbx.
lol
what the hack
@MarkGarcia Unrelated beer-driven rant: framework developers shouldn't get to have hacks and workarounds in their implementations
If we wanted shitty hacks and workarounds in our software, we'd have written the fucking thing ourselves
Everyone wants to write frameworks, because writing software for other developers is a metric fuckton easier than writing software for non-technical people
If you're one of the blessed that gets to do that
You better be a fucking god
(I'm assuming that you're referencing unity documentation)
Jan 31 '14 at 12:00, by Abyx
> Telling a programmer there's already a library to do X is like telling a songwriter that there's already a song about love.
@Jeremy Yeah, like that's going to accomplish something.
02:45
@MarkGarcia I suspect you'll get pushback if you post that in the C# room
or any .NET room
or the java room
but it's right
std::to_string is so slow on my machine
It's actually using tostring.com web service
Web 2.0
This application has requested the Runtime to terminate it in an unusual way.
Please contact the application's support team for more information.
terminate called after throwing an instance of 'std::runtime_error'
  what():  FAIL
This feature might actually kill me
02:46
neat, thanks libstdc++
@Rapptz They just want you to contact them. They want friends.
@Jeremy Unless the whole system is perfect, there are going to be ugly hacks somewhere. The best you can hope for is to hide them as thoroughly as possible, to let the rest of the system ignore the ugliness. Oh, the whole system is never even close to perfect.
time to see where this exception is thrown from
@JerryCoffin I make money writing C# code
I add an abstraction/indirection layer, and my technical boss thinks i'm a god
My software sucks.
02:48
@Jeremy So you're accustomed to lots of the ugliness being hidden inside the CLR and .NET.
@JerryCoffin Well, yeah.
I mean, I'm here in Lounge<C++>
@Jeremy Nope, not really. It's all really an illusion.
@JerryCoffin ILounge<C++>
ILounge<IC++>?
@Jeremy Maya<Maya>
03:07
quick question, ignore if I've to ask it in SO: when using bitset<4>( 3 ), instead of 0011, I get 1100 i.e. the order is in little-endian; the std. just says "initializing the first M bit positions to the corresponding bit values in val", how does this get interpreted into storing the LSB at the lesser address?
03:24
When you say you get '1100' what do you mean?
Ell
Ell
Osy no takeawwyws are opwbv
I'm done dor
Rhw local chippy closed who raago
I'm so drunk jesus
Ahhhh
I'm going to be so read tokottie
Hey @R.MartinhoFernandes what does it mean if nonius tells me the clock is on fire? lol
@Rapptz Your code doesn't run successfully.
in what sense exactly?
03:40
It throws, probably.
  Error in function boost::math::erfc_inv<double>(double, double): Overflow Error
?
I don't use boost::math so I figured it was an internal thing
Oh, wait, yeah, that's a failure in the runner.
Can haz repro?
Damn I want some milk and cereal... but I have neither milk nor cereal
iunno if that's small enough to count as an SSCCE
@Pris time to buy some
@R.MartinhoFernandes If it helps, erfc_inv is used in boost::math::quantile as erfc_inv(2 * p, Policy()); where p is the second parameter passed into the function.
Hello everyone.
03:54
Hi.
I've decided to learn x86 assembly
and then maybe roll a small compiler
And then I'm going to learn LLVM
@Cinch Hi.
also:
best Windows IDE for all languages>
Or text editor?
I don't like Notepad++ anymore
Do not IDE for all languages.
Bad.
@MarkGarcia Not IDE
text editor
03:59
Ask @Rapptz.
Best text editor, bub?
iunno
YMMV
I'm gonna try Sublime
glProgrammingMe
04:00
Ah. Well.
Sorry I can't help much more with the overflow issue.
bah
There's only 8 registers for x86?
8 general purpose?
04:30
hm.
04:43
Haha. Cinch, you are so funnily naive. :)
@Rapptz multiply by two - return arg * arg; that's very interesting :D
@ScarletAmaranth ikr
(It was originally x * 2)
I see; I thought you were like: I wonder whether this two in superscript behaves differently from two immediately preceding something ;)
the snippet is actually pretty buggy :p
@wilx well duh
05:17
@LightningRacisinObrit wow he's confused :|
oh wait woops
saw your post from '13 and thought it was recent
Also
Assembly is like the easiest programming language ever, it seems
Like holy shit just reading it makes me sigh with relief and make me feel easy
yeah, that'll go away
try to write even the simplest programs
the complexity builds up
@Blob Well duh that's why Lisp and C were invented
But I still find it nice to see true static typing
The computations are just so simple
the pushing and popping of stacks
I mean mov eax, "1" is just so soothing
Now granted it could be greatly improved
But it makes me excited
No wonder why people at the dawn of computers were excited; there was so much to do!
05:51
AT&T or Intel syntax, people?
06:06
Aaaand it's gone.
Assembly sucks
06:34
@Cinch On an Intel chip, Intel syntax. AT&T syntax is sort of all right on Motorola chips, but on Intel chips it's pretty ugly.
06:52
Hello guys
I have a question. What is the point of multilevel page tables?
07:10
10
Q: Why using hierarchical page tables?

DeterminantI'm learning the Linux kernel and reading the book The Linux Kernel. Can anybody explain why can't we just use the table which maps directly between logical and physical memory instead of the tree-like multilevel structure? Added: The total number of entries needed is fixed, so I assume that i...

@MomotapaLimpopo Thank you GNU/Momotapa
user1804599
@Cinch AT&T
@Cinch Intel. AT&T on x86 is an abomination.
user1804599
clang only supports AT&T syntax, and I use clang as my assembler.
07:21
@райтфолд I'm pretty sure that is not true - there's a directive in GAS to accept Intel syntax (with quirks, but still), and I'm pretty sure both GCC and Clang can output Intel syntax from -S or whatever was that option.
Granted, when doing inline assembly I do use AT&T.
But otherwise, when assembling standalone assembly files, it's Intel.
user1804599
Input, not output.
user1804599
Assemblers read assembly code.
@райтфолд Reread what I said - the GAS directive - and Clang is supposed to be compatible with GCC, so I don't see why it wouldn't read a weir variant of Intel syntax.
(Inline assembly is ugly anyway, so I'm not so crazy about prettifying it, but for standalone assembly files I'd rather kill myself than write them in AT&T...)
user1804599
About the only uses for inline assembly are CPUID and overflow checking. :P
don't forget performance wanking
good morning
07:25
Morning.
@Cinch intel
@райтфолд ...writing naked templates of inline assembly handling entrance to interrupt handlers... :D
ITT Robot insta fixing a Nonius issue
What does ITT stand for?
@Ell take care, mate; this doesn't sound too good
07:30
@wilx Intense Testicular Tension
@khajvah lol :D
@MomotapaLimpopo Ouch!
"Here is a nice simple way of doing something that provides all the information that is asked for in a format that is preferred" "oh ok, well we're just going to do it our own way and completely ignore the help you have offered" ¬_¬ oh what a happy start to the day
@sehe that's what 'Nonius' means, 'non issue'
3
morning all :D
user1804599
oh, nominations :)
user1804599
07:35
A pity that it's limited to int, long and long long, though.
explains the 'vald' nonsense
Who's vlad, why is he so famous around here?
Vlad is an popular Lounge user
He was a mod before
@MomotapaLimpopo is or was?
Recently he changed his nickname to "Cinch"
07:40
@khajvah He was a very helpful user once, very active in the Lounge. He became unemployed and changed his behavior then.
^ what Mark said
@khajvah not sure to be honest, some people like to make a big fuss about anything he does. When I bother to look at his answers, they tend to be very "technically solves the problem, but not the right way to solve it"
I thought it's because of his nickname
how so?
If a human sperm cell contains 37.5 megabytes of data, and I have 215 million sperm cells, then I have an 8 petabyte ballsack.
07:43
Vlad from moscow
@MomotapaLimpopo are you counting the data drying up in your sock?
user1804599
bukkake
user1804599
Stack machines are nice.
@райтфолд bah, only cowards worry about such things :P
user1804599
07:56
I'm gonna enable the sanitisers in debug mode.
bad boy
@Rapptz No problem. I'll look at it when I have some time.

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