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16:00
@CatPlusPlus well as I understand it, if I take the offer on the renewable, and get my shit done in 90 days, and then never get under 0 afterwards, I'll get it for free.
which would fit me just perfectly
@Xeo It is like Factorio. Once you are backed up, you will spend less? :)
Xeo
Xeo
I hope!
I need to call them
@wilx mm how's factorio multi again
I'd play again but I want multi
@BartekBanachewicz I have never played multiplayer mode of it.
BTW dunno if I mentioned but I'm providing a dedicated server for Factorio once it comes out as stable
I hope to get at least 10 people, I have 15 signups I think
16:06
stellar artwar
Ok great, but It's not for my need because I need the hash lookup... — hudac 1 min ago
@Pris that's one hot picture
Sigh. He pushed my button
So, that's why I gave the other approaches. Really, as I explained, your question didn't make a lot of sense. I went out of my way to give you inspiration on what you can do, with various trade-offs. No need to tell me that not all of them fit. In fact, I don't particularly care if none of them fit. You may improve the question. — sehe 33 secs ago
@BartekBanachewicz It'll last a month, tops
@Xeo should mean better value...
16:12
@thecoshman month is enuff
@CatPlusPlus contacted them, I have to pay 0.35% of insurance if I want that, but still it's dirt cheap
so I'll prolly end up as a drug addict
because of debts
and all that
@BartekBanachewicz thanks for explaining that. I was wondering there. I always thought that being a drug addict was prone to give you debts. Now I learned it's the other way around
@Xeo How do you manage that? Do you cook in the evening? Do you take prepared food to work? Somehow, I don't have time to cook anymore :/
mmm I could actually open the business acount
because I'm such a businessman
You probably need to have a company for that
@CatPlusPlus I do have one
16:21
rip
Xeo
Xeo
@Zeta Cook for dinner
@CatPlusPlus sweet VAT
Xeo
Xeo
sometimes
@CatPlusPlus overall it's nice, if you don't mind fucking around with paperwork
@Zeta Work from home, problem solved
16:23
ah shit, Slack allows both inline code and code blocks in messages
SO chat is so fucking poor in that regard
imma go and make a feature request on meta
Clang on Windows can throw C++ exceptions under the MS ABI. Cool. http://reviews.llvm.org/rL231328
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@BartekBanachewicz: SO chat is so poor that I wish it was everywhere. It is 1000 times better than most chats.
fuck most chats
SO chat is great
Yeah. Like France.
Shame about the population
@ThePhD Fix your priorities.
16:26
They're already fixed :(
Closed protocol, shit chat
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@R.MartinhoFernandes I can't change my heap implementation. :(
@sehe lol, what? Name some chat that is better than this?
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I would like a chat like this that doesn't preserve history, at least not until I figure out a good storage scheme.
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I wanna make it but JS is still 2hard5me.
16:29
This web client is extremely poor and you're locked into it
Plus it's attached to snack overflow and their stupid rules
Yeah because you follow the Stack Overflow rules in chat all the time
@ThePhD why don't you you use miaou (as a reference)
No, but I have to be annoyed by the mods
The web client is not "extremely poor"
Annoyed how?
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I actually don't mind this web client. It's... a lot better than the other thing I helped out with.
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16:30
That client...
@CatPlusPlus I think you are wrong. This chat, as it is, is pretty good. Seriously.
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shudder
who cares, no one here is competent enough to write a better one
@CatPlusPlus OK, but I am talking about the chat technology, functionality...
and we'll use Slack for the unconf anyway
16:31
If the protocol was open and actually a standard thing
Shouldn't you be off studying for your second attempt at driving theory?
@CatPlusPlus if if if
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I'm at work, duh
user3010322
I'm competent enough to write a better one!
building compressed atlasses
user3010322
Just not the frontend. Only the backend. :c
16:31
@BartekBanachewicz Then work! :D
@ThePhD ha ha ha
@ThePhD ha ha ha. In what? C++?
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@BartekBanachewicz Actually, yes. I've done it. And in CSharppe, too.
my day just got a little brighter
nothing like a laugh
user3010322
But fuck me if I have to use JS. ;~;
@wilx I'm seriously miffed what you are trying to pick a fight about with me. I'm going to assume misreply
16:32
@ThePhD yeah I (we) know you're unable to use anything that's not your (shitty) dream API
@ThePhD Detecting a cheap ploy to get /anyone/ to fuck you
ironically working with non-dream apis is 99% of programming
It's amazing how you have failed so hard lately yet you're still a ____ to everyone
@LightnessRacesinOrbit where's the flashing gif
people here can't complete projects because of reasons and that's p much a fact, and I'm no exception
@sehe I was assuming your comment was also about the chat. Was it not?
16:34
one of the reasons the game jams are (supposed to be) a thing
@sehe: I am not picking fights, I am just disagreeing about the chat being bad or something.
With whom? Is the point
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@Borgleader Psst. Later on, would you mind if I opensourced Furrovine to you? I'm not sure if it'll be usable on Mac/Linux by then, but I know for a fact it can do Freetype/Harfbuzz + DirectX on Windows!
Are audits not editable yet
Sharing source is not opensourcing
user3010322
One person Open Sourcing
user3010322
16:40
OPOS! :D
That's by definition not open source
user3010322
It's close enough. q_q
1. Free Redistribution

The license shall not restrict any party from selling or giving away the software as a component of an aggregate software distribution containing programs from several different sources. The license shall not require a royalty or other fee for such sale.
@ThePhD it's really not
there's nothing open about allowing one person to use it
user3010322
Hm.
user3010322
16:42
Well, then, I'll coin the term IntimateSource.
user3010322
Since it's between two. ♥
@ThePhD no, it's really not between anything
Meh - I have to turn into a manure supporter tonight, (they're playing the Arse). Unfortunately, the match is on at 19:45, so by chucking-out time, I will be robotised.
@BartekBanachewicz How is it not between two?
I can't get my head around how retarded the exception system in Scotty is.
It's baffling to me how one could create such a convoluted system, in the name of "simplicity" instead of using the underlying exception system.
It's one of those "Wh.. Wha... Why?" things that fill your soul of emptiness and mistrust in everything any human ever made.
I hate when you make a bunch of changes and then you don't want to hit the build button because you know its gonna be like 50 errors
@Pris So don't make such large changes between builds.
@Pris .. just from the compiler alone, then you try to link it...
@JerryCoffin Sometimes its hard to fine grain changes when you refactor
16:50
@Pris I guess. In such cases, I usually just throw out the whole project and start over. Refactoring is overrated.
@BartekBanachewicz They seem to use it already.
Or at least I'm using Web.Scotty.Trans.
no idea then
> I usually just throw out the whole project and start over.
bank accepted my limit whoo
that seems like overkill
16:51
i have 90 days to do my spendings and give them the money back
But the problem is that I need to throw exceptions in pure code. Code outside of their monad. I know right? Crazy.
Code exists outside of their monad. Unbelievable.
@Jefffrey fuck that
Fuck what
Your code
16:52
that too
@BartekBanachewicz That's the only way to signal error in pure code, you bub.
You either wrap everything in ErrorT or IO
@Jefffrey I am doing just fine with EitherT
Especially when you are defining a motherfucking FromJSON instance.
And you have no control over what the return type should be.
I dunno, since you had that outbreak I am very careful when agreeing with you
16:54
Because the motherfucking FromJSON interface dictates that.
might be just another pointless "this is not FP enough" rant
@Jefffrey write your own then
My own what
The FromJSON interface is perfectly fine.
FromJSON typeclass?
And how would that even work? Scotty is tied to Data.Aeson.
I would need to rewrite Scotty too.
@Jefffrey too bad then
16:55
At that point I could just fork it and remove their retarded "every exception is text" system.
Aeson has eitherDecode
@Jefffrey dunno post some code
instance FromJSON where parseObject (...) = throw $ Nope "error message"
keynote's starting aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
If you wanna watch, you can open up the following link in VLC:
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16:57
Nope has a ToJSON instance that you can use to return it in the response body.
@JerryCoffin Really? Isn't that supposed to be a bad thing to do, especially in larger projects?
Because you are writing a JSON API, I know right? Cooooool
@Jefffrey wut
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Does anyone know if, in formal regular expression notation, you can have something like 1^n, where n is some arbitrary constant?
@CatPlusPlus It is, because @ThePhD and I have an open relationship ;)
Now you go into your ActionT
And what you do it something <- jsonData
@LightnessRacesinOrbit nothingtodohere.png
And you would think, oh well, if it fails a Nope exception is thrown, right?
NOOOOPE
Because inside jsonData, Scotty is catching every exception and converting it to Text.
you're supposed to return a Parser a
How wonderful.
Thank you scotty.
16:59
I wonder if anyone's smacked her with newspaper thinking it was real
@BartekBanachewicz throw $ Nope "error" is of type Parser a

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