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4:04 PM
@ThePhD yup
@R.MartinhoFernandes welcome back to civilization :)
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Do you have some pictures to share?
 
I dont know if I can handle my own sexiness guys...
Fuck
 
Fap in front of a mirror.
 
@AndyProwl I dropped one here early this morning. I'll post some more later. Sadly I fucked up and brought extension tubes instead of an objective (they are about the same size, and I keep both in small padded cases that are equal), so I had to stick to my phone.
 
@Xeo it's agreat job
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes oh yeah, you're AFK, I forgot about that. Wondered where you were
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Nice
Was it midnight or something?
 
Oh, snow.
 
I'm not sure how day and night alternate up there
 
@AndyProwl No, it's winter.
 
4:17 PM
Ah, ok
 
9 hours ago, by R. Martinho Fernandes
It's the frozen lake Torneträsk and in the back is Lapporten ("Gate to Lapland"), the U-shaped mountains.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes "why are they called that?"
 
@EtiennedeMartel Did you try?
 
the bench is interesting too
 
I have one from Lapporten from the day before with some haze and more clouds that make it look really mystical.
 
4:18 PM
@Jefffrey No.
 
I did once, just to know if it was true that pupils dilatate during orgasm. It's not true.
 
> Tabs used..use only white spaces...
o_0 these are not smart people...
 
@Jefffrey TMI
 
the place seems disconnected from human presence, but there's a bench in case you want to sit and wait for something to happen
 
@BartekBanachewicz I always fap in a purely professional manner.
And for science only.
 
4:22 PM
Fapping for progress since 1992
 
Not a single mention on BBC News about the US net neutrality vote
although it's still not clear to me why we should care if we're not in the US
perhaps that's why
 
@AndyProwl lol, snow, ice, fir trees and a bench.
 
still, there's a precedent involved and a lot of web services are based there
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Because many of the services you're using are in the US.
 
4:24 PM
ffs
I need <$> . <$>
 
And ultimately, in this globally connected world of ours, what's happening in the largest economy on the planet is going to impact you in some way.
 
you need money?
 
@Jefffrey no, higher order applicative application
 
@MartinJames lol, the bench makes it eligible as a venue for Unconference 3.0
 
@AndyProwl Signing out...
 
4:26 PM
nooo
 
5 minutes later Creating project.vcxproj
 
Snow, ice, fir trees and a bar would have been OK.
OK, pizza cafe too.
 
Well okay I'll use (fmap . fmap)
 
You and the USA form a symbiont circle. What happens to one of
you will affect the other. You must understand this.
 
@EtiennedeMartel I just said that
@EtiennedeMartel Right so sod the news for not mentioning it :(
shoddy tech reporting
 
4:27 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Yeah, but we pressed Enter at the same time.
 
LRiO: Wesa wish no nutten in yousa tings, outlaunder, and wesa no care-n about da USA.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Sure, and owned by the Chinese.
 
@Jefffrey what
 
what if I called it <$$>
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I'm quoting The Phantom Menace
I think that eating that yogurt might have fucked up my metabolism.
It has been 3 days since I last sent a fax.
 
4:35 PM
People still use fax? That's just... old. email is the trend now :D
 
@Meraj99 "new"?
Do you have any idea how old (and obsolete) email is?
 
@Jefffrey Is that a metaphor regarding your metabolism?
 
well mabe not obsolete, but... crufty
 
Jan 16 at 12:00, by R. Martinho Fernandes
"Sending a fax" is slang for taking a dump, in Portugal.
 
4:36 PM
@BartekBanachewicz ok, just 'trend' then
 
I always learn something new in here
 
user3010322
I would flip out if I heard fax noises in the stall next to me.
 
oh snap SO has a language-lawyer tag
 
user3010322
[ Sound of Drops in Water ] FAX RECEIVED
 
Lifting the server siege..      done.
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Ready to ship
 
user3010322
4:38 PM
What's that for?
 
@ThePhD game server management
 
vaguebooking much
 
if that's what I think
 
No, it's just a site
I'm testing whether gevent patching works
 
great, lost 40% of battery power compiling lens
I HOPE YUR HAPPY BARKET
 
4:41 PM
I need to add a flag to disable sample building, huh
 
# CAUTION: use the keep-alive directive with care.
# DOUBLE CAUTION: this directive does not work well on HPUX
# TRIPLE CAUTION: don't use keep-alives until further notice
 
@Foreveranoob I doubt a country that is that large and culturally diverse could actually function without collapsing under its own political weight.
 
@CatPlusPlus lmao
 
@EtiennedeMartel china? the us? india?
 
4:44 PM
jesus 6% gone already
I'm at 5% now
 
haskell builds are serious business
leave them to professionals
 
Watching a movie would have cost me less battery power
 
Why are you compiling on battery
 
@Jefffrey and would probably be a more interesting thing to watch
 
Movie is not a CPU intensive operation
 
4:45 PM
it's GPU intensive, same thing
 
It usually eats 25% or so of battery per 45 minutes episode
 
user3010322
Some days, I imagine this is what happens to @thecoshman.
 
not sure what's the real difference between decoding via CPU intrinsics vs GPU processing
 
It's not really intensive at all
Esp compared to compilation
 
you know nothing john cat
 
4:48 PM
I SUMMON THE VAST POWER OF DATA FAMILIES
(you have made me to do it jefff it's all your fault)
 
You know bartek, I almost understood your view about StateT today.
But that made me feel depressed.
 
@Jefffrey really?
 
So I had to stop.
 
I swear.
 
4:49 PM
Data families are cool though, you'll like them (assuming you don't know them yet)
 
The reason why I understood your point is because I didn't know how to add the "change title window or window size" functionality in a userstate -> Element function.
 
anyone with msvc that supports c++11 willing to test a simple code example for dear old Pris
 
So I imagined Hate state with a nice StateT operation that changes the window.
 
@Jefffrey remember that there's an isomorphism between State a () and a -> a (and consequently, State a b ~ a -> (a, b))
 
user3010322
@Pris What've you got?
 
4:52 PM
userstate -> Element could be changed to userstate -> (userstate, Element)
 
@BartekBanachewicz That function would do two things then.
 
user1804599
Hurray!
 
wanna see if it compiles/runs
 
user1804599
I can compile calls and quotations!
 
4:53 PM
Possibly change the user state and return the element corresponding to the user state.
 
@Jefffrey glad you're noticing
 
@Pris "msvc that supports c++11" that would be a nice thing to have
 
Which I consider not optimal
 
@Jefffrey however, that's precisely what you wanted that function to do
 
@BartekBanachewicz window is not user state
it's framework state
 
4:54 PM
@Pris Yes, it does (at least as of VS 2015, CTP 6).
 
@JerryCoffin thanks for testing it
 
@Pris ...and VS 2013.
 
@Jefffrey doesn't really matter. You can not expose constructors for framework state and expose opaque functions that manipulate on it.
 
wat
 
there's a free theorem hidden there
that the user can't fuck up your state
 
4:56 PM
sure it can modify my state
 
because of id
 
that's the whole purpose of the framework
 
@Jefffrey show me an implementation of a function a -> a
@Jefffrey yes, but he can't maliciously modify it
 
sure
 
so that's really the same thing as the monad, again...
 
4:57 PM
oh you mean with your thing?
 
except you're being awfully explicit
@Jefffrey no, with your thing. they are equivalent
there's no difference, other than that in my approach I can potentially make my functions do IO
where you'd need to use unsafePerformIO
 
No need for IO there
 
@Jefffrey that's what Bartek thought, looking at GHC.Fingerprint implementation
 
So then I though about something else
 
can't wait. (really, no irony)
 
5:03 PM
@EtiennedeMartel lolwut
 
user3010322
@Pris Works for me.
 
user3010322
Oh. Jerry was much faster than me. :c
 
When I delete[] a pointer-to-array should I set it equal to null?
 
user1804599
:D :D :D
 
user1804599
Compilation works great!
 
5:13 PM
@DonLarynx Only if the pointer will still be lying around for much longer.
But that's somewhat of a smell.
 
don't manually dealloc like a twat?
 
something of a smell*
 
@ScarletAmaranth I need to for an assignment
@EtiennedeMartel So do nothing?
 
@DonLarynx your assignment is bad and your lector should feel bad
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Je ne parle pas Anglais.
 
5:16 PM
@ScarletAmaranth He probably does, but he wants us to learn dynamic allocation for computer organization.
 
@DonLarynx "computer organization"?
 
@ScarletAmaranth it's a class
 
@DonLarynx you could try stabbing him in an eye with a fork
 
@ScarletAmaranth he's actually a nice guy (in my java class) but in the c++ class he's a jerk lol
 
5:19 PM
@DonLarynx that's why you stab him in just one eye
 
@ScarletAmaranth oh
 
user1804599
This now compiles:
 
user1804599
(quote a)
(dict (quote a) (quote b), (quote c) (quote d))
 
@DonLarynx don't use delete[]
use unique_ptr or value semantics
 
@DonLarynx No--but 1) you shouldn't use new[] and/or delete[] (ever), and 2) pretty much the only times you should deallocate, the pointer to that memory should be going out of scope anyway.
 
user1804599
5:27 PM
Although PushGlobal is a little icky.
 
user1804599
Currently it doesn't know about modules.
 
new and delete are low-level primitives and should only be used by library implementers
 
user1804599
So the thing is.
 
user1804599
The compiler needs to know the module it's compiling, and fully qualify unquoted symbols.
 
@BartekBanachewicz ...but new[] and delete[] aren't low-level enough to be useful for library implementers, nor high-level enough for anybody else to use, so they shouldn't ever be used by anybody.
 
5:28 PM
@BartekBanachewicz @JerryCoffin its for an assignment. I would choose vectors anyday over dynamic allocation.
 
@Foreveranoob I am the only noob here.
 
Wait that statement is inaccurate
I would choose vectors over new and delete anyday. Mhm.
delete []
 
@DonLarynx Sure, use vector if you can--but if you can't use it, you should probably be using operator new and operator delete to allocate raw memory, and placement new/direct invocation of destructor to create/destroy objects in that memory.
 
@JerryCoffin true
@DonLarynx write your own implementation of unique_ptr
or vector
it's actually simpler than you think.
 
@BartekBanachewicz ...or both.
 
5:31 PM
@JerryCoffin once you have unique_ptr with [] specialization, you can implement vector in terms of it
but you know that already
why am I telling you that
now I wanted to say that "or" implies a, b, or a and b, but that's also obvious
maybe I'll just shut up.
3
 
@BartekBanachewicz Right. unique_ptr is almost amazingly simple. vector is simple, but a lot more work--just a lot to deal with. In terms of lines of code: unique_ptr is around a dozen, but vector is a couple hundred or so.
 
>std::unique_ptr is a smart pointer that retains sole ownership of an object through a pointer and destroys that object when the unique_ptr goes out of scope. No two unique_ptr instances can manage the same object.
 
couple hundred?
well if you don't implement all of its members
 
But can a unique ptr and a ptr manage the same object?
 
@DonLarynx a raw pointer can hold a weak reference to an object pointed to by unique_ptr
I made a chart with those once for work
but I think I've lost it
 
user1804599
5:34 PM
func isIdentifierHead(r rune) bool {
	return unicode.In(r, unicode.L, unicode.Pc, unicode.Pd, unicode.Po, unicode.Sm) && r != ',' && r != '"' && r != '#' && r != '\'' && r != '`' && r != ';'
}

func isIdentifierTail(r rune) bool {
	return isIdentifierHead(r) || unicode.In(r, unicode.N)
}
 
user1804599
This is so goooooooood.
 
@BartekBanachewicz I haven't tried to count, especially for a truly minimal implementation, but certainly several times longer than unique_ptr, anyway. Maybe "few hundred" would have been more accurate than "couple hundred", but it's too late to edit now.
@DonLarynx A unique_ptr can manage an object. A raw pointer can't manage anything on its own.
 
hmm I've tried to look for that image in chart history
so many memories
Mar 14 '13 at 9:33, by Bartek Banachewicz
user image
 
@BartekBanachewicz Yes, you've definitely lost it. [You know I can't resist an opening like that.]
 
user1804599
I'm not completely sure.
 
5:39 PM
'what is boolean . sorry i am totally new to programming :(' [sigh]
 
Aug 8 '14 at 10:11, by Bartek Banachewicz
user image
 
@райтфолд ...other than the minor detail that L, Pc, Pd, Po and Sm are utterly meaningless to most people.
 
AHA! found it @JerryCoffin @DonLarynx ^
I haven't finished the table
 
@JerryCoffin One of those is Polonium, no?
 
but the idea is there
 
5:44 PM
@JerryCoffin I've never even heard of the first two elements.
 
@LucDanton Hmm...I hadn't thought of it, but yeah, I guess so.
 
Polonium should be renamed to Witcherium
since they're pretty much synonymous
 
pfff
Witcher isn't the only good game made in Poland
Painkiller and Chrome both were really good
 
@AlexM. Whichium? Or maybe Whatium?
 
@BartekBanachewicz I was not aware those were made by Polish teams
but really you can't say that
when your president
 
5:45 PM
@BartekBanachewicz I get along all right with Chrome. Is Painkiller a new browser I haven't heard of before?
 
decides the best gift for Obama is Witcher 2
Witcher is pretty much the definition of the Polish video game industry atm
 
arent those guys who are making that game where you run around shooting people polish too
 
I remember Chrome because of its billboarded grass
maybe it extended to the rest of the vegetation, can't remember
but at least the grass was formed of billboards
really nasty if you looked at it close, but really nice if you didn't pay attention
it looked like detailed vegetation that way
 
@BartekBanachewicz CD-ROM? How old is that?
 
5:47 PM
2004 I think
 
9
Q: What to do with Torah novella thought in the bathroom by accident

NafkaminaHalachically it is prohibited to think about Torah in the bathroom. However, sometimes I'll get up to go to the bathroom while I'm in the middle of a tough sugya and I'll find myself still thinking about my learning. Sometimes I have by accident come up with a solution to a difficult Rashi or Tos...

 
@JerryCoffin 2003
 
 
EA support at its best
@Pris too much onebox per square centimeter
 
5:49 PM
@AlexM. lol, Partha does not give a fuck
onebox?
 
what I mean is, make that wikipedia link show up as a link and not as onebox
Hatred sure got a lot of advertising
just by being... itself
 
@BartekBanachewicz Ah, I didn't realize anybody else here even remembered anything that old... :-)
 
games are ageless
 
@jerry i programmed on atari 65xe i know life
 
5:55 PM
leaving my lack of interest in Chrome aside
it was one of the best FPShooters back in the day
together with its expansion (Specforce)
so it has its place in history
 
I feel like javas only purpose for existing is for swing
 
Xeo
Whoo, JonTron \o/
 
@DonLarynx A lot of current use of Java is on servers, with little or no UI (e.g., as middleware between a database and a web server).
 
@DonLarynx Android
 
@AlexM. just imagine an alternate universe where the android API was c++
 
5:59 PM
I don't like having to use JNI
it's easier with Apple
I just mix my C++ with their Obj-C
 
user784668
@ThePhD "This did not occur in Visual Studio 2013" wait what
 
@JerryCoffin wtf...thats stupid.
Im looking forward to using swing
 

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