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11:00 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I am porting over my Bezier curve code (JS). I need to be able to pass in a curried version of pointOnQuadraticBezierCurve, pointOnCubicBezierCurve, pointOnEllipticalArc which have different method signatures to -> generateLinearCurve. I want to curry those into passable function. In javascript it would look like:
 
 
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generateLinearCurve(500, function(t) {
	return pointOnQuadraticBezierCurve(self.curveControlPoints, t);
});
 
> I need to be able to pass in a curried version of
No you don't.
 
@MLM Indeed make classes
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit currying is very useful
 
11:01 PM
@MLM boost::bind, boost::phoenix have the stuff. But if you don't want boost/c++11, please write stateful function objects
@BartekBanachewicz hush. He's giving actual advice, not playing the architecture astronaut.
 
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@sehe I am willing to use Boost but ran into an issue so I am looking for simpler alternatives
 
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Q: How much ipad time do most kids get?

MizzLillyIm am a mother of 2, ages 3 and 10. I am worried that my youngest child is spending as much time, sometimes more time, on the ipad than my eldest. The ipad seems ideal when i am busy and the kids are content when using it, however i dont want to over do their computer time especially for my youn...

Shudders
 
@MLM rightly so. So, just redious programming it for you then
 
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@sehe "redious programming"?
 
Ell
Hey my arm-gcc is configuring now
now gotta get it through the make phase
 
11:04 PM
I don't understand why a two-year old needs a tablet (please, "iPad" is a brand) at all. What is wrong, pray tell, with books? — Lightness Races in Orbit 34 secs ago
 
@Nooble yeah. My son has "gained" himself the privilege of using the tablet in the mornings, between 7am and 7:30am. Because he gets downstairs and sets the table (besides basically waking up the whole house). It's a win win. But beyond that... They don't get on the tablet much at all outside holidays
@MLM tedious*
 
@πάντα ῥεῖ - Since you linked to the Lounge in your (now removed) comments here: stackoverflow.com/questions/28602100/… , I just wanted to say that I've had conversations with barej about the voting and the outside matters. The voting has all been cleared up, and they don't appear to be targeting you anymore. They also insist that the outside stuff isn't them, and that's stopped since I warned them about that.
 
@Ell pray
 
@sehe How old is your son?
 
7
 
11:06 PM
Ahh okay.
 
> They also insist that the outside stuff isn't them, and that's stopped since I warned them about that.
uh-huh
 
I first picked up a laptop at that age :)
 
Times are changing though
 
RankNTypeeeees
 
Ell
Our generations parents weren't prepared
 
11:07 PM
Hint: No generation is ever prepared
 
Well actually, I was 7 when I first got on to the Internet.
 
Life would be awfully boring
@Nooble When I was 17, internet was thing I could ask my older friends to go onto for me, because they were in university. I would get a printed copy of a newsgroup answer (after two weeks)
 
Is Parenting a self-fulfilling prophecy?
 
We didn't get internet access until I was much older than that. I don't think anyone I knew had it until I did.
@Rapptz hoezo?
 
11:08 PM
@Nooble top response says 15 minutes for middle school kid. wtf?
 
@sehe Latency.
 
Ell
The first thing about internet I remember is that horrible noise :P
 
@Blob I know right.
 
@BradLarson Barej, was stalking me at my github account in a not very nice way. I never serial downvoted them, and didn't ever got what paranoic racist reasonings he was seeing with my behavior here.
 
i spent all day on my computer in middle school
 
11:09 PM
@Ell I once managed to handshake with a 56k modem using nothing but a phone handset and my voice. The protocol is remarkably resilient.
 
lol @ books suggestion
 
I remember when I was a child hearing family members argue about who would get the modem (and for how long). Heard them arguing about this "internet" thing.
 
a 2 year old isn't going to read a book
picture books are pushing it
 
Why not?
um
I was reading at 2
 
Why does Haskell think 10 * x is a Float?
 
11:10 PM
I can barely get 5 year olds to pay attention to a picture book
 
granted not all do but how are they supposed to learn if they aren't exposed to it?
 
@Nooble Hah. That used to be about voice phone. Our computer didn't have a modem (too expensive)
 
You really think the average 2 year old has the attention span for that?
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Aw, you changed your avatar
 
you can't shove a flashy bunch of games at a 2 year old child and expect them to turn out alright
 
11:10 PM
@Rapptz You can encourage and read together. My eldest was reading early too (not at 2, but craving books nonetheless)
 
@Nooble CImg and FreeImage come to mind
 
no wonder the new generation are a bunch of entitled no-responsibility twats
 
@Blob You should get used to it, he does it quite often.
 
Yeah yeah.
Here comes old man Tomalak with his rant.
 
@Rapptz I've never noticed a lack of attention span in my kids. On the contrary, it seems to be dwindling by the years, and I hardly could keep up
 
11:11 PM
@Pris I was looking at stb_image, it's header only!
 
@Nooble that's not quite true
@Rapptz I'm not "ranting"; I'm responding to your criticism with my opinion. If you don't care about my opinion, don't solicit it.
 
@BradLarson I was just trying to get back in contact with them with my OT comments, trying a nice way. But maybe it's better we just ignore each other in future.
 
@sehe Honestly a lot of the kids here would rather do something else.
Like play.
 
@Blob Randomly found this pic and liked it :)
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit You've done it 3 times now, but I guess you're right, you just suddenly began changing it.
 
11:12 PM
Not so much playing computer games or iPad games, I mean play in general.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I liked the other one
 
Like playing with others, playing with blocks, playing with toys.
 
Ell
With toys, guns, fire and cross compilers
 
@πάνταῥεῖ Again, he insists that wasn't him. Didn't say I believed that, but he's been warned and it stopped after I warned him. I'd recommend not interacting with him in comments and see if this all blows over. Hopefully it will. I've got my eye on them in case anything more develops.
 
@Nooble I've done it a few times in the last few months. But before that period it was more like 12 months at a time. So on average it's quite rare :)
 
11:13 PM
@Rapptz <shakes head in confusion/> I think that's mostly a false dichotomy. Firstly, what is playing "instead"? And secondly: the playing requires attention span to even be entertaining
 
Granted, story time with the kids is fairly sane at times but sometimes they're just not up to it.
@sehe playing something else rather than sit there with the people in the daycare reading a story to them.
 
@BradLarson Ha. "I recommend not interacting" does remind me of sumtin' I meant earlier /cc @πάνταῥεῖ
 
I'm not a parent so the only experiences I have involve my time at the pre-school and dealing with my cousins. And this psychology minor which includes developmental psychology I guess.
 
@Rapptz You do it when they ask for it of course. And then you have to ration it. IME
 
that reminds me of my favourite Top Gear joke
 
11:15 PM
@πάνταῥεῖ But yeah, the GitHub stuff was bizarre. I've had one or two people troll me on there, but that was retaliation after I suspended them here. GitHub isn't really set up for moderating things like SE is, particularly around trolling or spam.
 
let me dig it out
 
theres an SO site for riddles
 
@BradLarson Well there's some artifacts still being observable here:
 
@sehe That wouldn't work with ~30 kids.
 
Why are you talking about groups all of a sudden :)
I'm pretty sure the average parent doesn't have 30 kids
 
11:16 PM
You replied to a sentence with the word 'daycare' in it.
 
could anyone explain why GCC hates function pointer typedefs and MSVC likes them?

`typedef int (AMXAPI *AMX_CALLBACK)(struct tagAMX *amx, cell index,cell *result, cell *params);`

AMXAPI is the calling convention, on linux for obvious reasons empty.. why is it givving an error (note: not my code, external lib/sdk)
 
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Q: Scratching my head can kill me

Michael RizeI am thin and frail. Scratching my head can kill me. When abused, I can also kill you. Usually, I'm helpful.

 
@Rapptz Why were you talking about daycare all of a sudden :) I assumed you were just giving an example with some fleeting context
 
The alternate answers are sooo bad
 
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@sehe HUHWHA
 
11:18 PM
@BradLarson I've been blocking him and claimed being abusive at github as well. May be besides my own clean-ups (as mentioned in my flag post), there was more cleaning up done on github as well meanwhile.
 
@Mr.kbok it's not a Float yet
what's x?
 
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@Nooble Oh. libjpeg and libpng can compile from source pretty easily. The DDS spec and TGA spec are dead-simple. More esoteric formats like wbmp are not really used everywhere. I haven't quite finished the Radiance file format just yet.
 
Alright well I'm gonna work on something.
 
user3010322
If you don't want to do that, then you should just get uh
 
@πάνταῥεῖ Again, hopefully that's that. Anyway, thought I'd let you know what's going on. Gotta bail.
 
11:19 PM
Dec 6 '13 at 23:53, by ThePhD
@Ell Oh, I forgot to mention earlier. I can decode: BMP ANI ICO CUR PNG JPEG PCX. Finishing up SGI, WBMP and Webp. Will look at OpenEXR, once I figure out how to wield their ~~industry strength solution~~.
 
@BradLarson I'm certainly no way a nazi (not even a soup nazi) or racist, that's completely off term!
 
@Nooble SDL2_image
 
@πάνταῥεῖ you calimed being abusive :)
 
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@sehe I still haven't gotten OpenEXR working /cc @Borgleader .
 
@BradLarson Thanks for that information of course.
 
user3010322
11:19 PM
@Rapptz My backups of RapphD are corrupted. Everything is the deads. :(
 
@πάνταῥεῖ You are a I-am-going-to-close-your-improper-SO-question-nazi! :D
 
RIP
 
@ThePhD Did you ... scratch it's read head?
 
@wilx Yes, that's somehow a way to work on this site :-P (within policies)
 
Ell
@ThePhD My dropbox backups are also corrupt
s/are/were/
 
11:21 PM
God I hate linux based systems, each day a bit more -,-
 
Ell
@Gizmo howcome?
 
problems everywhere and always
 
@Ell Oh the blessing of continous backup. That's super helpful, always
 
@Ell my project literally stopped compiling, on a external library
 
@Gizmo You know what the worst part is? When you go back after a few years, you notice it's the same everywhere.
 
11:22 PM
users keep spamming my inbox to fix it, I must fix it.
The spam won't stop
 
@Gizmo kill -CONT pid
 
> Haskell ecosystem is shit
> Is there *any* image loading library for C++
 
@sehe my definition of stopped compiling == errors
 
runs away, murmuring
 
typedef int (*POINTER)(int);
ERROR ERROR ERROR
thank you GCC.
Thank you soooooooooooooo much.
#not
 
11:23 PM
@BartekBanachewicz ignorance is not the same as lack of tooling
 
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@Rapptz The good news is my petering around with Sphinx and the sol docs are in another folder. I think the only thing I don't have elsewhere was my messing around with Lia, and WoundedLeaf.
 
@wilx I'm going to chill down recently BTW. I don't want to spent all of my close votes every day (but there are days, like today for example :-P ...)
 
(althought the net effect is very similar)
 
Ell
@BartekBanachewicz FreeImage vOv
 
@Gizmo Have fun ranting. You know where to find Stack Overflow
 
11:24 PM
@BartekBanachewicz Thousands.
More than likely.
 
Ell
@Gizmo looks like missing include?
 
@Rapptz BILLIONS
 
@Ell I wanted that to be the problem.. but it's literally defined in the same file.. AMXAPI
before it's used
 
Ell
I don't know
 
Ell
I can't help really
 
links to the right time
 
Ell
I'm also struggling to build an arm cross compiler
 
hahaha it works
 
Ell
@LightnessRacesinOrbit lol
 
11:26 PM
preliminary sprite sheet support is go
 
that whole news segment is my all-time favourite
in fact that whole episode was great
last Sunday's was probably my favourite since then
 
@sehe On about what actually?
 
user3010322
Lightness has a new image! \o/
 
user3010322
Oh, that reminds me.
 
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I need to contact the KeePass developers.
 
11:27 PM
@ThePhD It's just their old one ...
 
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@πάνταῥεῖ Oh.
 
@πάνταῥεῖ No, it's not
 
@πάνταῥεῖ Have you seen these? a and b.
I'm convinced this "we must clean everything" cramp is what leads to power abuse and whailing about "SO is going to die soon". It simply doesn't scale. There's too few engaged experts and too many askers. Just let nature take care of itself 80% of the time (Pareto!)
@πάνταῥεῖ It's funny that you mis-formulated in such a way that you inverted the meaning. You surely did not claim to be abusive :)
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Oops, didn't spot. Dat blue shading ...
 
is storing positions in sprite sheets as floats ok?
 
11:29 PM
> AntiServerFullAttack_Fix
 
Of course I didn't claim to be abusive :)
I made up my mind about that help vampire thing, since my least meta post
 
@BartekBanachewicz yeah since your tex coords will be floats anyway
 
@πάνταῥεῖ Subtle innit!
 
float can store 7 decimal digits
 
It's a painting of me that a friend did
 
11:31 PM
I suppose for textures up to 4096x4096 there's no loss of precision anyway
 
@πάνταῥεῖ Are you ... a bit drunk?
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I'm to pavonine wearing glasses, ya know :)
@sehe A bit, why?
 
so
how would you access the spritesheet
 
@πάνταῥεῖ I dunno. I'm wondering whether I should go and find ... your least meta post :)
 
I presume the regular ones should be indexed with numbers
 
user3010322
11:33 PM
> Dear Mr. Dominik Riechl,

I had a question about a feature for KeePass 2.x. I have a need where most of my auto types take on two forms: one that needs the password, and one that needs the username and the password, for the same entry. So far, I can only either have one or the other on a certain entry, and some of the time I can't use window targeting.

I was thinking that KeePass 2.x could include the ability to define your own keyboard shortcuts to define a different "default" auto-type. Do you know if this is possible with KeePass 2.x already, or if there's some kind of work that needs
 
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I think that's nice enough.
 
@ThePhD Is there no issue tracker o.O
 
user3010322
... Uh. There's a Forum!
 
so, should the irregular ones be also tagged with numbers?
or strings :S
 
@πάνταῥεῖ I have no idea what that message means, sorry.
 
11:35 PM
@sehe That one you gave an answer also (recently). And I was really heavily drung when posting this ("from dusk till dawn" LOL whatta flush that was)
 
@ThePhD Lol, you sign emails as "ThePhD"
 
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@LightnessRacesinOrbit My real name isn't as cool. :c
 
user3010322
I could sign them as "The Derpstorm" from now on.
 
@ThePhD I'd personally not be interested in the fluff. "I was thinking that KeePass 2.x could include the ability to" - you lost me. It's clear you're asking for things and you're not informed enough to phrase it directly at technical people o.O
@πάνταῥεῖ agreed :)
 
@ThePhD he's a Mr. and you're signing as "ThePhD". Way to make him feel bad >.>
 
user3010322
11:36 PM
@Blob :c I'll change it.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I'm actually too blind to spot these subtle differences from your avatar without glasses. (pavonine == vain as my translator tells me)
 
So I uploaded that news segment from Top Gear to YouTube. ten minutes later it's already been removed due to a copyright claim, and my account has been partially crippled. Blimey.
 
I love this track, so smooth: youtube.com/watch?v=BeZuRqnWmyY
 
I'm sure it's deliberately ironic that the entire episode is perfectly watchable, as demonstrated by the fact that I just linked to it.
 
@ThePhD Remember, as the bringer of an idea, you're not asking for favours. You're granting one. And if you wish to benefit, you might want to make sure you pitch the idea, instead of a begging sketch
 
11:39 PM
@ThePhD You might be able to do this.
KeePass supports triggers and plugins.
I'm not sure though.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Prince Blimey :)
 
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@sehe You're right. I'm guilty of begging a lot recently because I'm always fighting tooth and nail with these people I'm working with for a chat, so everything is me proposing things and then being told they're out of the scope, and since their word is final it usually degenerates into constantly re-pitching or essentially begging. :c
 
> "Hi there! Where can I propose a feature for Keepass? IMO The custom auto-type options should actually be presets, not per-entry. In my everyday usage, I need only two. I'd be much happier to have e.g. Ctrl-Alt-1 and Ctrl-Alt-2 assigned to both methods, so I can decide at the moment in time which one to use."
 
user3010322
@sehe That's like 20 lines shorter and way better.
 
user3010322
Praise sehe, king of wisdom and words. \o/
 
11:41 PM
Drinking Jagermeister and playing Octodad
 
I tend to use global auto type on websites
cause I'm lazy
 
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@CatPlusPlus That must be going hilarious. How's the controls while drunk?
 
@wilx lol DJ Zen
 
idk it's installin
 
@CatPlusPlus keep us informed please
 
11:42 PM
@Rapptz I'm pretty sure the autotype things are very security sensitive, so I'm not convinced they're accessible from plugins without proper trust... (Then again, I don't like the idea of plugins there in the first place)
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit From Prince Blimey for you:
 
Night all
 
user3010322
Night.
 
@sehe NN
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Hope you like ambient sound at that time of day (night)
 
hm
I really wonder what should the key type be
maybe something generic actually
but genericity adds complexity
fuck it let's make it a string
 
11:49 PM
Proposed new lounge song.
(don't ask; a colleague sent this; has to do with cpy culture :))
 
Ell
@sehe Night :)
 
Just made this typo mRefCunt. I should probably call it quits for tonight.
 
So glad that this doesn't apply to me. I'm not american :)
(quite cool stuff)
 
@StackedCrooked we don't wanna know what you're going to do next
 
How come American TV must censor offensive words and Youtube doesn't?
 
11:59 PM
@StackedCrooked Because YouTube isn't a network.
 
@StackedCrooked Broadcasters fall under FCC regulations, but YouTube (mostly) doesn't.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I'm scared but I agree with you for once.
 

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