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12:14 AM
Save state!
Always.
 
it was supposed to be a single level demo so I didn't want to mess with non-gameplay related crap like saving and pausing :(
just start, finish in 10 minutes, exit
 
Saving is totally gameplay related.
Although it depends on the kind of game.
 
non-gameplay related
how is saving gameplay related?
it's a technical feature
 
But it's a crucial part of the game, and can change the whole "feel" of the game.
Imagine you can only save when going to sleep (in-game).
 
you mean when it's turned into checkpoints?
that's a good point
 
12:18 AM
Checkpoints, automatic, manual.
Hardcore mode.
 
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Q: Function overload using lambda function signature

HaatschiiConsider the following example void foo(const std::function<int()>& f) { std::cout << f() << std::endl; } void foo(const std::function<int(int x)>& f) { std::cout << f(5) << std::endl; } int main() { foo([](){return 3;}); foo([](int x){return x;}); } This does not compile, becau...

 
Some games have no "save" option, they just always save.
 
HAHAHAHAH.
 
xD
MSVC strikes again.
And before you ask: Hardcore mode would be automatically saving, but deleting the save when the player loses.
> Your compiler is correct according to C++11. In C++14, a rule is added that says that the constructor template shall not participate in overload resolution unless the type of the argument is actually callable with the std::function's argument types.
Oh.
 
see microsoft is not always bad
NOW GO APOLOGIZE
 
12:25 AM
lol
> Microsoft is not always bad. NOW GO APOLOGIZE
xD
 
I'll save the state to some static crap so I don't waste time with serialiblahblah
that should be ok and won't cause me to waste a lot of time for a 10 minute level
 
I wish I could do that with one of my projects.
 
@remyabel & Mohammad I believe Mr. Microsoft deserves an apology here. That is not a nice way to behave! — Alex M. 7 secs ago
@MohammadAliBaydoun cough
 
Flag flag flag!
 
12:34 AM
@AlexM. There we go, I publicly apologized :c
 
very nice
now don't go around saying bad things about Microsoft like that again, Microsoft is human too, and has feelings
imagine you were this compiler (MSVC) trying so hard to be a great tool for programmers
and all you get in return is people assuming you're the problem all the time :(
MSVC's story is so sad
forever unappreciated
forever trying to please
 
@AlexM. Microsoft is still bad, letting the code compile, even if it's technically illegal, is the correct choice there.
 
VisualC++-tan
 
@Griwes it's non-standard in that case, amirite?
 
@AlexM. Who cares. There's no 100% conforming implementation anyway, nor there will ever be.
 
12:37 AM
But dude....
 
I'm not sure why they should choose to be non-standard in this case
from what I see GCC doesn't compile either
so it's not just them
 
GCC sucks.
 
no idea about Clang
 
(I mean GCC sucks in general. Not just in this case :P)
 
But it does support constexpr and noexcept.
 
12:38 AM
(Clang also sucks, just slightly less.)
 
Ell
Clang is conformant isn't it?
 
With which paragraph of the standard?
Because certainly not all. :D
 
Ell
Oh right
@griwes how is your OS going?
 
Slowly.
Not much recently.
 
Ell
What features do you have, and what features are planned?
 
12:47 AM
Wait, you are writing an OS?
 
Ell
Is there a project page or website or anything?
 
Was it the JS OS?
 
I've hit one of the points where there's too many dependencies to move forward in any way; the dependencies are many and have many own dependencies...
I've been mostly toying with compilerdev recently.
(Which, funnily enough, is not one of the dependencies. Oh dear.)
The features that are there right now and some of the planned for the close (haha, "close") future are in VERSIONS.md.
Userspace is almost mostly working.
 
gotta go to work in two days
holiday's over
uuugh
 
Ell
I was looking at crafting a Linux distro
But before that I want to kind of document the components in Linux distros
 
1:01 AM
OS are complicated
wouldn't even know where to start :(
 
Indeed. The closest I got to OS development was implementing a file system.
 
I never got to OS development
how do you make it boot?
 
The file system? We used fuse to mount and interface with a device.
If you just mean "how to make the OS boot" in general, well...
 
yeah what kind of executable is the bootable bit
is it some sort of hardware-specific executable
does it relate to the BIOS
I can't intuitively find a proper solution for this
(haven't read anything about it, so...)
 
Indeed, it does.
Although things have changed a bit since UEFI came in.
 
1:08 AM
BIOS must be black magic then
I remember updating my BIOS from Windows a while ago
it was constantly zero-ing out things and replacing shit
 
Well, I had to configure my laptop's boot manager in order to make it load the linux boot loader instead of running Windows'.
It turns out that this Toshiba laptop is sort of stupid, and rejected my entries and priorities in the boot manager. It kept running Windows.
The workaround I currently have is to set the EFI flag "NextBoot" to the linux boot thingy when starting linux.
 
@AlexM. Bootloaders are an (almost :D) solved problems. For the bare-bones bootloaders, you'll find one on wiki.osdev.org, but for start you might be better off with just using GRUB.
 
And on Windows, I shutdown with "shutdown /o /r", so I can select linux again.
 
Ell
@e_4net best to just install grub on somewhere and always boot from that
Then just set priority in grub
 
@Ell I installed Gummiboot, and set priority to it. I'm telling you, it's some hardcoded carp.
 
Ell
1:14 AM
Oh dear then
 
Some EFI boot managers don't make it easy.
A colleague of mine had fixed this problem on his own pc by deleting all entries but the one he cared about. I tried that to no avail.
 
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Q: Why aren't bounties available to all?

iOS DeveloperHaving to earn the right to use bounties by having a high reputation is NOT FAIR!!! Newer users are the most ignored, and the ones in most need of more views. Bounty of other types would help a lot. WHY IS THIS NOT AVAILABLE???

^^ I don't get it. How is a user with no rep supposed to give out a bounty?
 
BECAUSE WE'RE BUSY SHOUTING AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA — Alex M. 10 secs ago
> Wait, I don't get it. How is someone supposed to offer a bounty if they don't have any rep? Take out a loan?
yeah
 
xD
 
borrow rep from people
then get killed for not paying it back
 
1:20 AM
Dude xD
 
who had the most rep here, Jon Skeet?
I propose noob-bounties; < 75 rep users can make bounties that use Skeet's rep
 
xD
Excuse my absurd statements of "Ex Dee", but I really am laughing at this.
 
if you read one of the answers there, you will see that even in his question he tends to shout
 
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A: Why aren't bounties available to all?

Alex KWell, the reputation you are offering up has to come from somewhere. Since the minimum bounty is 50, and the privilege comes at 75, it isn't actually that much more. Go ahead and answer some questions - then you'll earn the reputation to be able to set a bounty. Setting a bounty is 'paying' for...

> See this great blog post by Jon Skeet on how to write a successful question on StackOverflow.
 
1:27 AM
Creepy.
 
I wouldn't bounty or answer urgent questions. Urgency implies needing to hurry, and hurrying is bad both for your health and your code. — Alex M. 25 secs ago
 
Don't code and drive.
2
 
yep, just use drivers
and make sure they're up to date
 
If only I could check the taxi driver's version.
 
although, I'm a bit surprised that nobody touched what the guy meant
his "bounty for low rep users" way of putting it was wrong
 
1:35 AM
Hey can someone check if Jasen's last comment on my answer was correct? stackoverflow.com/a/27750055/3808877
 
but I'm pretty sure what he wanted to say is "can we get a bounty-like system for new users?"
which doesn't necessarily mean new users giving something of their own
 
IMO he just wanted more ways to make people look and answer his questions, and got upset for bounties not being available to him yet.
 
well there's not much that I can think of
besides peer-approved noob bounties with rep taken out of nowhere
anyway, doesn't matter
it's just a noob asking for a way to bounty
the SE programmers have better things to do
like coding next year's hats
we'll call them when there's 100 noobs asking for bounties
 
What would they need to code for next year's hats?
 
dunno
 
1:50 AM
Yeah, I assume this implementation will still work fine for next year.
But hey, other people can start bounties. If a question was worthy, the newbie could make an arrangement with some other interested member.
 
there is no PM system so, not likely
 
No need. Although it does clutter a bit, comments would be fine. It's not like we're trading goods here.
 
Cândido Godói is a municipality of 6,641 inhabitants in the state Rio Grande do Sul, Brazil near the Argentine border, famous for the high number of twins born there. The twin phenomenon is centered in Linha São Pedro, a small settlement in the city of Cândido Godói, in an ethnically homogeneous population of German descent. == Twinning rate == The rate of twin births in Cândido Godói is 10%, significantly higher than the overall 1.8% rate for the state of Rio Grande do Sul. This rate is unusual, exceeding the highest observed national twinning rate (4.5-5% for southwestern Nigeria). Nearly half...
> The notorious Nazi doctor Josef Mengele, who had conducted twin "studies" in Germany and experiments with twins in Auschwitz, is known to have fled to South America as the Allies were closing in on the Nazi German regime.
TIL
 
Hmm..
 
2:06 AM
Apple sued for shrinking storage space on 16GB devices thanks to iOS 8 theverge.com/2014/12/31/7474947/…
I really think guys like Apple should be forced to emphasize the actual usable space on each device when advertising
this would make things fair and help clueless users
16GB (12GB usable) iPhone 6
would probably kill profits :A
but hey
 
@KenWhite I am sorry if I offended you or came of as ranting. I was simply trying to get help and advice. Like I said before, I am new to stack overflow, and did not know what to expect, or what was expected of me. . I am just a kid trying to put my app on the store, and I didn't know where to look for advice from professional iOS developers. It is too bad that I am left with the impression that Stack Overflow is a mean, rude, negative place that rips your every move to shreds. — iOS Developer 4 mins ago
^^ ahahaha
 
Oh, poor kid.
 
Ell
2:24 AM
I'm trying to find out why systemd is evil
> Other parts include a logging daemon, utilities to control basic system configuration like the hostname, date, locale, maintain a list of logged-in users and running containers and virtual machines, system accounts, runtime directories and settings, and daemons to manage simple network configuration, network time synchronization, log forwarding, and name resolution.
This seems pretty evil.
 
It contains a daemon - it's (d)evil enough then.
 
Ell
It irks me how linux uses the filesystem to encode so much information
And when I say Linux I mean linux related things
 
systemd is as evil as how evil you make it.
 
2:46 AM
@Borgleader Wouldn't it just use a default prototype for strcmp()? — Barmar 54 secs ago
...
 
the blobfish is the ugliest thing I've seen so far
it's this deep sea fish that when taken to the surface the difference in pressure makes it turn into a ball of mush
 
How do you make a string of a single character, say ascii 12?
syntax in c++
I tried doing something like char input = (char)12; std::string test(input); Or is the best way to just do std::string test; test.push_back(input);?
 
@TriHard8 I am pretty sure you meant to type that in Google search, not here.
 
I've been googling it and can't find anything for special characters.
 
Tri harder.
hides
 
2:54 AM
ascii 12 is \n (new line, line feed)
 
\f
I saw it was a form feed. Griwes was right, I should have tried harder.
 
oh wait no it is form feed oops i checked the wrong column
12 in octal is \n >.>
dont judge me
 
I won't, I'm not strong with octals and hex. That class is next semester.
 
Ell
file.open_creating_if_necessary("foo.text");
 
3:20 AM
you can make a horror story about that
it was necessary to create a new file when opening for reading
and instead of it being empty, it contained the names of 40 people who died that same day in mysterious circumstances
boo~
C++ horror
 
you can easily achieve horror by opening files in white text on white background
 
shit you can do so much more
news on TV about a serial killer in the background
you debugging your program, inspecting memory
expecting to find junk crap
you find "I'm coming for you"
horror music plays
 
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Q: Advanced C++ programmer, lack of "common" programming knowledge. how to start?

Arty McLabinI've been learning C++ on my own for a decent amount of time, successfully using classes, pointers, extern libraries and Qt dialect + openGL, BUT here comes the stupid fact, i've completely skipped the practice of standard programming skills such as algorithm draw, any sorts of diagrams, tree et...

 
Ell
3:48 AM
Night all
 
Night ell
 
4:06 AM
Anyone have any experience with Qt3D? It looks like a pretty nice abstraction layer for OpenGL ES.
 
@AlexM. I'm coding* for you
The coding monster hides in the deepest darkest corners of your file system, messing about with your code ever so slightly, and laughs at your attempt to figure out the problem.
Spooky.
 
4:33 AM
> I've said it before, if you have to make your company motto a reminder to not be evil, it's because your natural inclination is to be evil.
Whoah. That realization...
 
 
1 hour later…
5:42 AM
So ...
 
5:58 AM
So...my rush project failed...
 
Just watched Ascension. Slow start but oh my frakking god what a finish...
"the reason i posted the question instead of opening programming kindergarten tutorial page, is that i simply feel wrong learning most of the stuff in there, as i only need a very limited part of what i can find inside the "irrelevant" tutorial." This is the polar opposite of the approach you should be taking. Be less lazy. Do research. Learn. Don't expect us to learn for you. Good luck. — Lightness Races in Orbit 18 secs ago
 
6:28 AM
9 hours ago, by Etienne de Martel
Also, don't listen to Puppy, he was born with an entire tree up his ass.
ahaha
#starred
 
coz I am not on facebook, I can only share the food I had in the past 24 hours here ...
the cake was great ... didn't like the icing, it was a pretty cake though
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes: Yeah, 50,000 shutter actuations sounds pretty minimal to me, unless the camera's inexpensive enough to plan on replacing it after a few years. I believe my current camera is rated for something like 200,000 or 250,000 actuations, and if I were buying a new one now, I'd probably prefer higher. On the other hand, given current pricing it might make more sense to save money now, and just live with replacing it when it dies.
 
@JerryCoffin What camera do you mainly use?
 
also been having palm sized prawns for lunch coz was hungry & was at the market ...
 
6:44 AM
@MarkGarcia A Sony Alpha 900. If I were starting from nothing today, I'm not sure whether I'd go with Sony, but I've been collecting Minolta lenses for decades now, and Sony now builds the cameras they fit, so...
 
@JerryCoffin Interesting camera. But you'd go with the more mainstream Canon/Nikon if it weren't for those lenses?
As I can see the Sony also has nice specs.
 
COME ON LCARS
 
7:07 AM
I wonder what's the mini size of a comfortable self sustaining spaceship
 
Watch Ascension and find out
 
I was more thinking along the way of Sunshine
 
7:41 AM
also sci fi movies need to stop using greek myth characters as names ... it has became a bit ... cliche
imagine how lovely is to send a spaceship named 'applepie' or 'donut' into space
 
 
2 hours later…
9:15 AM
the "feel"
 
@MarkGarcia [sorry for the delay] I wouldn't go for a Canon, but Nikon...maybe. Then again, I can pretty easily see where I might go a Sony again. In some ways, the situation's even better now than it was then (especially availability of autofocus Zeiss lenses).
 
has anyone used OpenCV with drones?
 
yes, I used it for an UAV
something for my BSc thesis
 
9:40 AM
Has C++ been used for military applications?
 
pretty sure it has been
but 'military apllications' is a very broad term
 
well, not directly, of course
Anybody here from the military?
 
No. I doubt C++ is used for anything serious enough that would determine the life of death of even a single individual.
I would be scared if it did. I would rather not know actually.
 
Embeded C++ probably has been used for automotive controls. Next time you hit on your car brake, pray carefully
 
Great. My executable now links against both Qt4 and Qt5 at the same time.
 
9:44 AM
Anyway, how do call it when a range [a, b] becomes [a, a] (so it may only contain 1 element (integers))?
 
programming causes sleeping issues.
 
no it doesn't
 
The sky is blue
 
there is no correlation between programmer as an occupation and sleeping disorder
 
ok
 
9:49 AM
are we ok on this?
 
people have been slacking on the chat because of the holiday season ...
 
How long is the ban?
 
Half an hour.
 
rightfold has been banned again?
 
9:52 AM
No.
 
what do you mean by 'again'?
 
Implementing macros isn't too difficult.
 
I see stackoverflow as trustworthy and professional community; submitting non-useful content it is like ruining good food. I wouldn't do that.
 
user1804599
The only slightly tricky part is calling functions defined in the same module from inside macros.
 
sorry about that
 
user1804599
9:58 AM
But quite doable.
 
I am actively starring stuff so I can cast the demon of stupidity out ... hopefully
 
Is it possible to have a function that takes an infinite number of arguments all of the same type?
Specifically, is it possible to enforce that a variadic function accepts arguments of the same type?
No std::initializer_list won't help.
 
user1804599
Sure. Just use static_assert and std::is_same.
 
user1804599
Or SFINAE.
 
kthx
 
user1804599
10:00 AM
Why was that message starred?
 
why would it be tricky?
 
This is your assignment. Any "answer" you google will be wrong. Because it's your assignment. — sehe 50 secs ago
 
Wasaaap!
 
@Jefffrey int manymanyarguments(int n_args, ...)
template<typename T, typename... Args>
a few other ways too
@sehe are they really many ways to correctly answer one question, especially it's related to maths or physics?
 
@chmod711telkitty typename... Args means "any number of arguments of any type".
I'd like to be able to say int... instead or generically T...
 
10:05 AM
oh, i thought . . . was a typo
 
user1804599
@Jefffrey int xs[] = { args... }; (void)xs; :P
 
@edition gosh. read up on c++11!
 
anyway, solved it
 
C++11 (formerly known as C++0x) is a version of the standard of the C++ programming language. It was approved by ISO on 12 August 2011, replacing C++03, and superseded by C++14 on 18 August 2014. The name follows the tradition of naming language versions by the year of the specification's publication. C++11 includes several additions to the core language and extends the C++ standard library, incorporating most of the C++ Technical Report 1 (TR1) libraries — except the library of mathematical special functions. C++11 was published as ISO/IEC 14882:2011 in September 2011 and is available for a fee...
 
I need shower, I am sticky
 
10:10 AM
TMI
 
10:29 AM
> filesex.pl -- Extended operations on files
 
today, is pc cleaning day!
tomorrow, is hack up a lung full of dust day
 
here's a new one
got an email, subject "Re: I need your help", body, "I need your help".
and that's it.
 
respond back, "You're welcome"
 
wht did you write to the guy?
 
nothing
 
10:44 AM
so he spoofed the Re:
 
yeah I'm just confused as to what he actually wanted me to do upon receipt of this email
 
'Re' just means 'regarding', so it's perfectly sensible to have your first mail use that, except that subject line is meant to meant that. Also, nothing stops him just adding it himself.
@Puppy help him
 
clearly, but how?
not that I really care since I have literally zero intention of it
 
less questions, more helping
 
I wonder if the problem he needs help with is "Not enough bdsm anal fetish porn"?
 
10:52 AM
Do they often ask you for that?
 
no
 
Ok I think it is unlikely then.
 
Why would someone ask puppy for more "bdsm anal fetish porn"? Is there anything we do not know puppy about?
 
11:10 AM
@chmod711telkitty His weird preferences in programming permeate into his sexual preferences? Or vice versa. No surprise. :D
 
@Puppy was it any close relative
 
@sehe no.
if it was someone I knew I'd just ask them for clarification instead of lolling in here
 
I am looking at this profiling result & I am completely lost
it's a bit like a chicken eating a cooked lobster for the first time ...
looks fancy & tasty ... but where do I start?
 
@Puppy really? I'd contact them separately about their account having been hacked/hijacked
 
11:27 AM
that only works if the contact in question doesn't frequently commit help-ask crimes.
 
@chmod711telkitty Depending on your tool, you can start at many points. Try sorting functions by self-time, inspect the highest few.
 
hey all
 
@VáclavZeman I am profiling an android app using android.os.Debug
need to play around with this a bit ...
 
i have a question that is little bit of topic may i ask it
 
@Karim Depends. Prepare for the consequences.
 
11:32 AM
@Karim you may ask but you are as ready as a pig for a roast
Roasted pork <3
 
no
 
first of all i live in syria there is no copy wright here but am not a fan of that i hate hacked softwere but my problem is am trying to install visual studio communty but its 6gb and i have 512 bit/s line soo i can get a copy of visual studio 2013 professional but how can i apply to it communty licences
i know its of topic i have no where to go
':D
just note if i can use the pro packeges to install the comm one
soo any idea
 
if you live in syria you got way bigge rproblems than your VS version
 
no acculy am in were i live is safe
like i a normal life
??
:/
@chmod711telkitty am Roasted and ready to be eaten
 
So if you were a roasted pig, would you like to be eaten or left alone?
I know not many people thinking about this kind of questions ... I doubt even pigs think about that often
 
11:47 AM
@chmod711telkitty u v got this one right
 
@Karim Then you've come to the right place.
 
12:10 PM
Why is there no website that allows people to design their own spaceship ... or parts of it. Then the best design voted by physicists & engineers get built into the real thing funded by cloud, NSA & ESA?
 
12:34 PM
hmm
obj.value is non-constexpr if value is a static const int with a constexpr initializer?
 
Xeo
12:45 PM
aaaaaand alone
finally
 
Ell
@Puppy it's someone from outer space
 
@rightføld You can always cancel stars you deem unfit.
 
no, only room owners can do that
 
when you think about it: 7+ billion people on earth, yet none has gotten further than the moon, that's pretty sad ...
Also I wanna this:
very healthy
 

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