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20:00
he was temporarily :P
No, thanks.
Don't you mean .... "no, fffanks"
more like fffuck that
careful. you'll get flagged. then be accused of being a 5 year old!
@Borgleader They got a thing that when you install it you get yahoo as default search engine.
Super fun.
20:00
does Yahoo even still have a search engine?
@Jefffrey yep exactly what i was referring to.
but before that, it was a really good client.
oh boy
I wouldn't read Yahoo news again
back when the only non-torrent thing it had was a tetris game hidden as an easter egg
now I have this one
torrents are dead bro
20:02
replaced by what
@Jefffrey YEAH! I noticed that shit :((
there was never a wealth of legal material torrented, and all the illegal stuff is deadly dangerous
I didn't get the memo
@LightnessRacesinOrbit yknow what else is dead? PCs
@Jefffrey Netflix. Amazon Prime. You bloody shameless pirate. (And, um, usenet :))
20:02
lol usenet
What? Fast, reliable, anonymous.
That's not a replacement.
@LightnessRacesinOrbit except every single linux distro to date.
Actually torrent was a replacement for usenet and it didn't work
20:03
Torrents are free, usenet is not.
cheapskate argument
you pay for your ISP don't you
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Only on Sundays!
@LightnessRacesinOrbit It's a fact. Not an argument
torrents aren't free
Yeah, I don't have €10 to pay a month.
20:03
@LightnessRacesinOrbit That's a good point
@MartinJames It's Monday
@Jefffrey I'm overpaying :)
@Jefffrey doesn't mean "it's not a replacement"
And if I had, I could just pay for netflix or whatever.
@LightnessRacesinOrbit they arent? o.o
20:04
unless your main criterion is "is absolutely free" in which case you're (a) right and (b) an idiot
@Borgleader Of course not. Electricity, ISP account, bandwidth maybe, storage space, hardware, your time locating a torrent, your time waiting for it to complete, your time waiting for it to seed for a bit...
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Well, obviously it takes some time to get back to 'normal' getting slaughtered in the evening.
That's not the cost of a torrent.
people only think of immediate cost for some reason which is weird
@Jefffrey How so
That's the cost of maintaining a connection, to download the torrent.
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I'm sorry I asked.
20:05
@MartinJames ;p
@Borgleader Why?
I know what you are doing LRiO.
You are being pedantic kind of an ass my favourite person.
Fuck usenet.
20:06
Honestly, why is it that whenever you people ask a stupid question and get the answer and you don't like the answer because it makes you realise that the question was stupid, you decide to brand me a "troll" or "pedantic"? It's really bloody annoying.
usenet is great
ALTHOUGH lately it's been targeted with renewed vigour and quite effectively at that
days are numbered
@Jefffrey did someone do LRiO -pedantic again
Also, you can't find old stuff on usenet.
This is like talking to a -Wall
Because servers have a retain period of maybe 3 months.
@LightnessRacesinOrbit You're like Sheldon from TBBT.
minus the phd
20:07
@Jefffrey unlike torrents, which get seeded forever?
@Jefffrey There are archives.
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Basically, yes.
also my server has a retention of 3 years, babe
if you're paying $10/mo for 3 months' retention you're a fool
@Jefffrey Basically, no
@Borgleader I have a PhD tyvm
Fuck Doctorates.
no I don't have a Fuck Doctorate. let alone multiple.
20:09
you go ahead and find me the top two
> Sorry, this page is not available through Virgin Media
guys
I'd rather download a pdf from a torrent with comments
than from a shady website
Yep good proof that torrents are great and still effective
they're great and effective for me
don't really care about others
see you in jail. when i visit you. cos you're in jail. except I won't. cos fuck that.=)
20:10
@LightnessRacesinOrbit you go ahead and find me lost, or star wars IV, V or VI
lol jail
I have to go out
@Jefffrey Those are all available on DVD now bro
on your usenet thingy
and I just did a quick search - all six seasons of Lost DVDRips reposted one month ago tomorrow
on alt.binaries.warez
20:13
you know I can't check
can't people just use what they want
I use tabs
All Star Wars films in HD posted on 11th December to alt.binaries.mom
hth
> .mom
inb4 banned for discussing this
20:14
fuck it I don't care any more
I wasn't allowed to get my hat
your.mom
@LightnessRacesinOrbit in theoretical physics?
in C#, 35 mins ago, by Tom W
They should rebrand it Windows Team Foundation Server. WTFS.
gem
@JohanLarsson Warcraft Temporary Folder -> WTF :)
yeah but TFS needs plural
20:16
BRB
@Borgleader Warcraft Text Format or something, I think. :P
@Griwes No its definitely a temp folder
@Borgleader There's a file called realmlist.wtf that is a text file. I'm definitely going for "text format" there.
@Griwes E:\Games\World of Warcraft\WTF\Config.wtf I was talking about ze folder D:
@LightnessRacesinOrbit So minus the phd. You may have another one but you dont have that one. So youre Sheldon minus the phd.
20:19
I should know about a file with .wtf extension, it's what you edit to get to private servers. :P
moving on.
@Borgleader Oh please
I have a fictional PhD in theoretical physics. Just like Sheldon. There you go.
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15 mins ago, by Lightness Races in Orbit
@Borgleader Of course not. Electricity, ISP account, bandwidth maybe, storage space, hardware, your time locating a torrent, your time waiting for it to complete, your time waiting for it to seed for a bit...
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20:20
^ He looks so weird without a hat.
IDGI
@rightføld American accents. Had to close.
ugh, I need to write a shader or sth
so complicateeed
I never wrote shaders
you just did. not hard.
TIL if you have 5000 subscribers you can use youtube spaces
20:21
@AlexM. what... shaders are so easy...
@Jefffrey You know his higness doesn't like to be called out out loud
@Borgleader I want to get the same effect as on the sword in this screen 4.bp.blogspot.com/-zA1fLuhWd6c/TdMDjWXhFOI/AAAAAAAACAs/…
I know that I have to push the triangles outside and make them translucent or sth
Right, for all of you muppets who cannot comprehend, this is "trolling":
A whole $2.7. Wow. — Lightness Races in Orbit 23 secs ago
but dunno how :(
I mean I have to create extra geometry
@AlexM. Is this thief?
20:22
and the glow needs to be animated
nah, it's Arx Fatalis
@AlexM. That looks like 2 meshes to me, the black sword part and then the blue thing. Separately neither should be terrible difficult.
here's another great example of what I want to achieve
the glow on the golem
@Borgleader yeah it's basically a copy of the model
oh that
but semi-transparent and colored
we talked about that in the lounge before
Oct 12 at 17:38, by R. Martinho Fernandes
@Borgleader Geometry shader.
in reference to:
20:26
let me google for that
New Years resolution: say more yes's than no's. As in, "Yes, I think I will say no to that thing you want me to do that'll make me unhappy".
@Borgleader that looks familiar
bus in 15 mins. hmm. fuck it. pub
I keep seeing "DirectX 11" near geometry shaders in unity
I hope it's not a DX11 feature only lol
Opengl has geometry shaders too if thats what youre asking
the syntax is slightly different
@Borgleader I think that's a winner, thanks :D
20:31
@LightnessRacesinOrbit because can't resist putting the goalposts - easy when they've not been explicitly anchored and deposited by a notary. You ridicule people for talking about "cost of a torrent" in the strict sense while it's equally arbitrary for you to say that the wide definition must have been meant. When people say "a torrent is free" they don't say "torrenting is free" and the odds are huge they didn't actually want to state the latter.
@AlexM. np
So, while your point is very valuable (there are more costs) it's silly to ridicule another view and go on flaming people for posing "stupid" questions, "weird" people missing the picture, cheapskates for stating a fact.
Let's not even start about you blithely misrepresenting facts to begin with: there has always been a wealth of legal material torrented.
The only person annoying you is you, in this respect. Just enrich someone's point with a broader view, for once, instead of just habitually opposing. You'll be less tired.
right bbl
play nice
be nice
just booted up Black Flag again. Even on 360 that game is gorgeous o.o
20:35
@rightføld Is it worth watching?
this is amazing, it works!
I'll take care of the animation myself
shouldn't be too hard to dive in
@AlexM. You're making me want to play with Unity again =/
do it :D
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@FredOverflow No idea, I didn't follow it because I was programming instead.
actually I think these properties like outline size are in the material
and my animation really only changes these
which means I need C# only :\
wait, no, nvm
I'm wrong
20:38
I was going through my backlog of recommended SO questions and found someone asking how to use AVX in Java. I couldn't help but laugh.
I still need C# only but it's not directly inside the material
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I re-watched Lost on Blu-ray this year. Season 6 was pretty disappointing, apart from those two episodes that explained more about Richard and Jacob.
@rightføld lol title
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It's true.
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Monads and burritos are completely different things.
user1804599
Burritos are also much more popular than monads are.
20:44
Aren't they both wrappers?
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For some reason I don't like this function: gist.github.com/rightfold/63e44fc5a32854536cd0
user1804599
I think there should be a function to convert () => Unit to Runnable.
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object Runnable {
  def apply(body: => Unit) = new Runnable {
    override def run() = body
  }
}
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: D:D :D I FEEL LIKE I AM ON DRUGS
3
20:59
the shader worked :D it's not pretty yet but it does something dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/17635452/mygeef.gif /cc @Borgleader
(some 1MB gif)
@AlexM. \o/
with spring easing it feels better
I should make it go gradually invisible when it's decreasing in intensity
21:14
I'll tweak it more later
make it red and it could highlight enemies, hmm
21:34
@Mysticial JNI geany :)
since I found this troll guy on the asset store and he's all animated, I should start doing some turn based system and basic combat
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@sehe JNA you fool.
user1804599
Fuck JNI.
boaurrrrrr it's cold
@rightføld Ooh. Shiny
21:42
perhaps I should turn on the heating.
user1804599
@sehe Used it with LLVM quite effectively.
I'm off to bed.
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I'm already in bed.
@rightføld Cool. How?
user1804599
@sehe By just calling LLVM's functions.
21:42
Wokay :)
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:v
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Also you wizkid can I ping a server without root privileges and without invoking /bin/ping?
Of course. Though firewalls and possibly other permissions. Hmm. Not too sure what technicalities may underly the permission structure
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Hmm, meh.
user1804599
I'll just invoke the program then.
user1804599
21:45
And parse its output. :(
user1804599
ping -c 1 -W $1 $2 | tail -1 | awk '{ print $4 }' | cut -d '/' -f 2
exit ${PIPESTATUS[0]}
I need a new build system.
but not sure if one exists that meets my requirements.
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> std::cerr << "(You may need to run this program as root.)" << std::endl;
hehe
akn
akn
21:57
Hello
user1804599
def ping(host: String, timeout: Duration) =
    Duration.ofMillis(Seq("bash", "-c", theScriptAbove, timeout, host).!!.toDouble)
user1804599
That should pretty much do it.
akn
akn
could you explain me what does it mean: int (resolver_start)(int, void**, const char*) ? It is a function argument but i completely don't understand that
user1804599
@akn Hola, Freund!
> .!!.
what sourcery is this
@akn it's a callback
user1804599
21:59
@sehe It calls the !! method and then calls toDouble on the result.
the !! method. Are you programming perl again?
user1804599
> abstract def !!: String
Starts the process represented by this builder, blocks until it exits, and returns the output as a String. Standard error is sent to the console. If the exit code is non-zero, an exception is thrown.
akn
akn
@sehe how would it look like in java?
who wants to know
not at all, akn, because java has no function pointers
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22:01
@akn Given a functional interface Function3 it would look like Function3<Integer, Object[], String, Integer> resolverStart
akn
akn
so it is a pointer to resolver_start function which returns int and taks int void and char as arguments?
user1804599
resolver_start is a pointer to a function of type int(int, void**, char const*).
int, void** and const char*
user1804599
@sehe actually I wish I had AWK.
user1804599
22:03
I should implement AWK for the JVM.
@akn oh you meant the callback? Implement an interface, optionally with an anonymous class. Have fun
user1804599
@FunctionalInterface
public interface Function3<A, B, C, O> {
    O apply(A a, B b, C c) throws Exception;
}
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DONE
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Also: import scala.Function3.
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22:07
Yeah, what the fuck. That's not the Pacific at all.
@Griwes Old, there was a take a kayak years ago
one years
akn
akn
Thanks for help, now I know bit more ;) Good night
@Griwes oops, meant to be years ago
22:08
at least they didn't ask you to swim
lol
what's next, be jesus and walk across the ocean
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> I can fit the whole F# solution in the blank lines of the C# solution with 7,000 lines to spare.
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nice
What did you feel on drugs about?
user1804599
22:15
Scala.
How do you call it when a header includes another header that includes the original header?
Circular dependency.
Thanks
Np m8.
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@Jefffrey Terrible.
You can do new T(...) when T is an incomplete type, right?
Probably not.
Considering that the compiler would need to know how many arguments the constructor takes.
I want to be a kawaii ass pizza
4
22:25
@AlexM. An ass pizza? sounds like something out of cyanide & happiness
I have no idea what that is, but it sounds delicious.
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@Jefffrey no
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@Jefffrey and the size
@rightføld And the type of the constructors
The size?
Isn't it a runtime problem anyway?
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It needs to know how many bytes to allocate you fool.
22:30
If you say so
@Jefffrey I think that in theory, it could be implemented, but nobody does and the Standard does not allow it. Simple example- how could the compiler know which constructor to call?
It could? I don't see how.
If you need any kind of static check on that expression.
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You could fail at runtime when the types happen to be wrong.
user1804599
lol
if you know the name of the type, you can in theory produce mangled names.
so there's no reason why you couldn't produce a function like, say, T::__runtime_sizeof.
the constructor call would be a bit trickier.
I believe that for some expressions, if you were to elide the move/copy constructor, you could feasibly compile a call from another T returning function.
so like T f(); auto x = new T(f());.
22:39
@Puppy Problem seems to be that you can't possibly know if T has a move or copy constructor.
don't need it if you're going to elide it.
@Puppy §12.8/32
> This two-stage overload resolution must be performed regardless of whether copy elision will occur. It determines the constructor to be called if elision is not performed, and the selected constructor must be accessible even if the call is elided.
I already knew it's not allowed by Standard.
I merely said that in theory, it could be implemented.
Oh, I see.
besides, the conditions for elision are somewhat unreliable
23:20
why did microsoft insist on using enqueue and dequeue instead of push/pop
push/pop works well
Probably because it's a queue.
yes, you can push and pop from a queue
Those are technically stack operations.
why are they so localized to stacks?
iunno.
C++ uses push/pop for everything.
23:23
yeah I like that
Well Java uses offer and poll instead of push/pop.
Could be worse.
> A n00b is short for “ newbie ” , or someone who is new to a game. While the term predates the Internet, it became popular with MO communities. Not a particularly flattering term, as it implies inexperience and/or ignorance: only a real n00b would read a footnote defining what a n00b is!
the book you recommended is mocking me
@AlexM. \o/ I read the footnote too
and I laughed doing it
23:38
the guy is funny
it's a nice read
I'll get the book on my next paycheck
unless I finish it by then because then I'll forget about it
but I'll try not to
it'll be tricky to use amazon, maybe some other source will be fine
> Mushroom and Chorizo Carbonara

Pour over Heinz Seriously Good Carbonara Pasta Sauce , stir until sauce is hot.
recipe of the year
might as well have replaced all of it with "order them"
sounds like my kind of recipe
I just retroactively spec'ed out the AMD rig that I built last year. I'll add a few pictures tonight as see what sort of nasty comments I get. lol
I'm cold.
lol $450
lol AMD
23:52
I also spec'ed out my 4770K rig which I built to replace my fried 2600K. That one was a bit more expensive because of the ram.
shit
you could store Google on those hard drives
wait a minute...
@AlexM. I'll push you into a puddle after popping you in the face.
I'm still missing a few parts from the 4770K rig - such as the 4-in-3 hard drive box that mounts in the 5.25 drive bays. That thing is about 100 USD. But I don't have the exact model #.
I don't implement IPushable nor do I implement IPoppable so I can't be pushed nor popped
there's something I like about getting drunk and being sleepy
my cheeks get warm for some reason
like now
so warm and fluffy
it's called "Being a moron"
23:59
you just don't know the joys of alcohol consumption
IDrinkable
IMoron?

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