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Ell
8:00 PM
do I need to change my <ReturnT, ArgsT...> syntax to <ReturnT(ArgsT...)> syntax?
I wonder how difficult it'd be
 
you don't have to
 
I understood the risk as having the translators shoulder the license costs, while the licensee doesn’t care to do the translation in the first place.
 
Ell
@Rapptz would the former syntax annoy you?
It feels less like real c++
 
@Xeo that move is very reminiscent of rewrite
 
I don't like the former because it looks like a type list.
there are many translations for Clannad already
anyone interested in it could just look it up but they want a wider audience I suppose
but people don't care about VNs too much these days so it won't succeed much in that regard imo
 
8:03 PM
Would be a first to release on Steam, no?
 
Xeo
@Rapptz Yes, inofficial translations. They want official ones.
That's the whole point of Sekai Project
 
yes
I'm aware it's "inofficial"
you're not going to re-read it in the official version and go like "wow all these unofficial translations were horribly wrong"
anyway my point is that they could fund this themselves without going through the kickstarter middle man
 
oo they seem to have releases on Steam already
 
yeah they do
they're a company devoted to this kind of stuff
a small one sure
 
Xeo
@Rapptz Do you mean Key now, or Sekai Project?
 
8:09 PM
Sekai Project.
 
Xeo
lol
 
Key only plays the role in licensing
 
Xeo
I don't quite think Sekai Project has the funds for that
most of the money goes to the original creators
 
yes, that's licensing
at the end of the day, I don't really care much
More important is how Firefox managed to make the address bar weird
when you type on it, there's a small bar
 
@Rapptz Young, too. At least when it comes to the business of officially licensing.
 
Xeo
8:13 PM
@Rapptz don't have that
that said, I have a custom theme
 
it happened when I updated
what version are you on?
 
So start-up (self described at least), small, young, heavy costs of licensing with small returns (small community of enthusiast users). And that’s not appropriate for crowd-funding?
 
Xeo
@Rapptz 33.1
specifcally restarted FF to update just now
 
wow another update
I just updated yesterday
sec
yeah that fixed nothing
 
Xeo
lol
 
user1804599
8:16 PM
Reboot.
 
All this update added was a way to bug me when I open a new tab.
thanks..
 
@Rapptz Probably search results don't render properly
 
@LucDanton They use kickstarter to fund a lot of their stuff.
 
Y u no help me @rightføld :(
 
Xeo
8:21 PM
@Rapptz Because all of it is with different companies. Sekai Project feels more like a mediator for me, wrt to translating VNs.
 
user1804599
@Columbo You are stupid.
 
Xeo
Maybe not-so-far in the future they can stop with the kickstarters, when they companies see that VNs are not a dead market in the west.
 
You'd figure by now they'd have enough capital to do one project without resorting to kickstarter.
 
@rightføld And you are Zoidberg. What's worse?
 
user1804599
Being stupid.
 
8:22 PM
But nope. Guess today is not that day.
 
Why use your own capital if you can get money from people
 
@rightføld In that case, you should be frowning twice as much.
 
@Rapptz Or maybe they barely make even.
 
Maybe.
Clannad is old though.
 
Xeo
10 year anniversary
 
8:25 PM
But Clannad is a classic.
So it doesn't matter if it's old
 
@Rapptz ^ in case you want is_(nothrow_)swappable in Gears
 
> Members of the C++ standards committee have been trying (or at least dreaming of it) to close down the pointer arithmetics part of the language in favor of "safe" C++ (the STL/Boost crap that is the complete opposite of what game developers need). [proof] As soon as any big push is made in that direction, I assume that the developers will promptly disconnect from the latest standard (if they haven't done that already).
 
wait
what do game developers need pointer arithmetic for?
other than perhaps one space-optimized data structure in one damn file using tagged pointers?
 
What a bunch of fucking retards.
 
6
A: Will C++ remain viable for game engines in somewhat distant future?

snake5Short answer: yes, game engines will probably be still written in C++ at least for the next 10 years or so. Long answer: big parts of engine code still include C. Members of the C++ standards committee have been trying (or at least dreaming of it) to close down the pointer arithmetics part of th...

found it through reddit
 
8:35 PM
lol
@Rapptz "I don't understand what your pointers are saying, so I'm gonna take it as disrespect"
 
sigh... and so I hit the delights of Rust libraries being broken :S
 
user1804599
@Rapptz lol
 
user1804599
 
8:52 PM
0
Q: Equality In The News

Amelia JadeI need some examples of equality from the news for me homework. But I don't get the task. Examples of equality in the news?

^^ wtf?
 
@Mysticial yahoo answers is leaking
 
Ell
@Rapptz haha
 
is there a sane way to remove duplication from this code - pastebin.com/GpN49TXL ?
 
@Abyx I don't think so, those are two different x->g's you call
 
9:04 PM
@Abyx You can somewhat but not that much.
 
@orlp it's void g(T... t) btw
 
@Abyx they're still different g's in terms of arity
 
@thecoshman ISTR something about it being a proof of concept.
 
@Puppy yeah I also don't think that I can make in shorter while keeping it readable
 
I sneezed.
 
9:07 PM
@Puppy that sort of counts as a nosefart right?
 
lol
 
hey
just trying to keep tally
 
test
 
@orlp btw, that orlp thing of yours - is it some kind of orz ?
 
@Abyx orz?
 
9:09 PM
yeah, you can google it
 
@Abyx I'm unfamiliar with that term
please don't tell me to google undescriptive three letter acronyms and expect me to get the meaning you intend
 
it's descriptive enough
 
Orz, a race in the fictional Star Control universe
or do you mean the emoticon?
 
yes, emoticon
 
well no
orlp are my initials
 
9:12 PM
four of them?
 
they just happen to form a short recognizable unique username
 
I don't recognize it.
where's your UN declaration saying I have to recognize you?
I don't see t.
 
@Abyx Orson Raphael Lennard Peters
 
SWATting you right now
 
@orlp yeah, "orlp" is better
 
9:14 PM
@Puppy kk
 
@Puppy :P
 
Guys
I love you ;_;
 
ooh yeah, update Rust, dependency problem fixed :D
 
@Abyx "nightcracker" was cool when I was 11
 
@Puppy won't you get jailed for swating someone?
 
9:15 PM
that's for pussies who get caught
 
@orlp 19 isn't much older
 
I was looking at the code in the dependency, looking at the Rust library, wtf? This is correct! why it broke! ... hang... <update> fixed :D
 
@Abyx about 8 years
@Abyx 9 in about 3 days :D
@Puppy btw is the puppy in your avatar your real puppy
 
I'm falling in love with decent dependency management. Google lib, find git repo, add to my Cargo.toml, write code that uses it.
Any way, time for GF stuff...
 
sudo aptitude install <lib>-dev && pray "this works" || prepare your-anus
 
9:19 PM
@thecoshman stuffed GF?
 
@thecoshman ಠ⌣ಠ
 
yes
 
what a cutie
 
Ell
huh. I don't understand how my code works
 
@Puppy does the puppy fart too?
 
9:23 PM
@Ell usually it's not necessary
 
@Ell welcome to software development
 
Ell
unless jvm allows changing the types of fields dynamically
 
jvm sucks
 
java sucks
4
 
9:36 PM
> undefined reference to `std::__1::cout'
That is confusing.
Ah, had to rebuilt.
 
Java 8 is great! They fixed everything!
Except the primitives
And the closures
And the generics
And the lack of value types
 
And all that other important stuff
And the community
Java is the future!
 
And all the java
 
Meh value types
 
Also, operators
 
9:39 PM
@Rapptz std::move_if_noexcept is mainly used for providing strong exception guarantees right?
 
yes
 
@Rapptz but that's pointless in a move constructor right?
 
@CatPlusPlus I wouldn't mind the lack as much if it had operator overloading and new operators
 
@Rapptz since there is no "do nothing" operation for a constructor
 
so what you're basically saying is
 
9:40 PM
how do you write nice HTML code that doesn't wrap around when the lines is too long
 
java 8 fixed everything except the fact that it's Java.
 
Java 8 is awesome, almost like Java 7
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum You misspelled "horrific"
 
grr java
 
Java is great, that's why I've been writing scala all day
 
Ell
9:43 PM
well balls
it turns out you can change the type of a field at runtime o.O
who'd have thought it
I better implement type safety sharpish
 
@Ell in what
 
Ell
@Jefffrey when you're doing JNI bidness
in the jvm
 
bidness?
 
Ell
*business
 
posted on November 10, 2014 by Scott Meyers

I just received the following from O'Reilly: Normal 0 false false false EN-US X-NONE X-NONE

 
9:47 PM
I dunno what to do
 
user1804599
Scientists y u no find extraterrestrial life.
 
Rust is annoying
 
is this a chat room
 
wow it is; very 1999
 
Ell
9:56 PM
ah merge conflict
how
whyy
 
@rightføld Extraterrestrial life y u no find scientists
 
> Normal 0 false false false EN-US X-NONE X-NONE
 
user1804599
 
what is the benefit of having special floating point registers in a VM?
i mean, i see the benefit/necessity in real processors, in that those registers belong to the FPU.. but what about VMs?
 
user1804599
10:00 PM
Map to CPU registers directly.
 
hm you mean when you jiit the code?
 
there's little point in using special FP registers in a VM IMO.
if you're gonna go there may as well just use the CPU arch itself.
 
How exactly do I edit the lounge wiki? I need to cross out a name from the project name ideas page...
 
Registration is closed until it's open again
 
Aww.
When will it be opened again?
 
10:11 PM
Dunno
 
even litb has an edit account there
 
Who/What decides?
 
Okay.
 
Centralised auth is blocking everything
 
10:12 PM
does it make sense to use a register-based VM with dynamic typing?
 
I either have no time or no willpower to finish it
 
Ell
I have no rum or vodka left
 
oauwned
@Nooble First you need to become a Lounger.
 
@Puppy Enlighten me.
 
@Nooble You hang around a long time.
I was on my way a year ago and then left for a long time.
 
10:26 PM
you spend 300 million years evolving in the Lounge
 
Like a mold
 
mould, peasant.
 
That would fossilize me.
 
@Xeo heard it's a sad story
I don't like sad stories :(
 
You can also be a robot and get a firmware update. Much quicker.
 
10:38 PM
> In what way is non-template code turing complete? Do you refer to macros?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes And what if this fails midway through the update? Would you have half man half lounger?
 
Ell
man what is it making a load of seemingly unrelated text inputs slow
the terminal is slow
coliru text editing box is slow
chat & facebook box is fine
I'm gonna implement fancy function syntax now
 
Meh I have no ideas on what to propose for Nomic
 
Remove #209
 
> The Elder Scrolls 3: Morrowind, Collector's Edition for PC
Condition:
Very Good
£400.00
wat
then again, he can afford to, it's the only one on eBay
and the only one I ever saw, actually
 
10:43 PM
Or modify #212 to improve the whole judgment thingy
That shit is silly
Make it so that if someone disagrees with the interpretation of a rule, then it can call judgment at the cost of x points and majority determines who wins.
or at the cost of a finger
or whatever is enough creative for you
 
Ell
Now how do I get the return type of a function type (ie <int(std::string, double)>)
 
I have to go bed but I'm wide awake
#lionproblems
 
@Ell template<class Ret, class... Args> struct return_type<Ret(Args...)> { using type = Ret; }; or something along those lines
or maybe decltype(func("", 0.0))
 
user1804599
Any germans or dutchmen in the room?
 
user1804599
hey @TonyTheLion help
 
Xeo
10:57 PM
?
 
user1804599
Mädchen is neuter right? If you refer to said Mädchen later do you say the equivalent of "her" or the equivalent of "its"?
 
user1804599
I wondered about the same in Dutch. It's common to say "haar" (her) when referring to some "meisje"
 
user1804599
But I'm not sure if and how it is correct since "meisje" is neuter.
 
> When an iMessage user sends a message to the number, the message is routed through iMessage instead of SMS, effectively remaining stuck on a service that the recipient can’t access any more.
is this even legal
to bypass the carrier's SMS service
 
user1804599
Sure.
 
10:59 PM
wth
 

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