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21:00
@Puppy See, that's why I said "mysterious". What's wrong with it that you won't even tell what language(s) you're working in? I mean, if what the company makes is not for you to tell, or you're not even to tell the company's name, I can understand that. But the language and the tools? That seems suspicious, no matter how I look at it.
@Puppy ah, the magic potion cure
@sbi C# mostly.
and a bit of Python
Could be a lot worse :)
look at him and laugh
sbi
sbi
@Puppy Ah, OK. I did C#, too, for a while. It's a nice little language. But I missed C++.
21:01
@sbi must be game company, I had a roommate who was under NDA for 2 yrs, wouldn't tell anything
@sbi It annoys me every time it pulls shit like, can't assign a lambda to a variable, can't declare a local variable as volatile, that kind of thing.
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@TemplateRex Is GCHQ a game company?
no.
GCHQ is the British NSA.
@sbi wait, wut? puppy is at GCHQ?
no.
21:02
alan turing turning in his grave
sbi
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See, now I done it. Puppy will forever be our little spy.
@TemplateRex Alan would be turing in his grave, not turning.
GHCQ is based in Cheltenham, and I'm based in Bristol, so you can forget that
Ell
Ell
if anyone is at GCHQ, it's @LightnessRacesinOrbit
also I never had enough RAM to finish experimenting with SHA2 so
@sbi he would be halting, that's for sure
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21:03
@Puppy Why did I know you'd say something like this now?
@Ell I'm pretty sure someone working for them would be better at keeping a low profile
because I'm fucking awesome and you know it
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@TemplateRex :)
@jalf p. sure he is based in Norwich or Nottingham or London or something like that, not Cheltenham.
sbi
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@Puppy really? And here I thought he lived in Frankfurt.
21:04
@sbi which reminds me, I got to see the Imitation Game
sbi
sbi
Whatever that is – go ahead!
@sbi Aww, group hug time! :)
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@jalf Yep, @Cicada and @sehe hugging made me jelly. :)
not a big fan of jelly myself
21:06
I should probably get some sleep
not enough asskicking
have fun, all!
good night jalf
@jalf @sbi hug too :)
don't hug me I might catch something
21:09
My hugs are exception free
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ebola
@Cicada std::ebola
sbi
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@Puppy Socialitis, no doubt.
but do they return error codes?
Result<T>
21:10
I love my Auntie Wainwright :)
Hi! I'd like to discuss [this question](http://stackoverflow.com/questions/26386938/specify-a-main-class-as-the-first-to-load)
May be putting [that question](http://meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/274527/can-bad-questions-still-be-considered-helpful-for-future-research) here 1st would have been more appropriate
sbi
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Oct 7 at 16:20, by Cat Plus Plus
Read the fabulous rules!
excep they were leftovers from the 80s, probably paid for by the US in the first place, so they covered it up, and now ISIS has rediscovered some leftover stockpiles
user1804599
@πάνταῥεῖ Terrible question downvote close vote delete and ban.
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21:12
Hello Cat
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@TemplateRex ISIS is peace, you racist!
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@πάνταῥεῖ But to clarify: it is unclear as to whether the question is about Java-like C++, Eclipse settings or SIOF.
user1804599
It appears to be about multiple of those, so it'd be too broad.
@πάνταῥεῖ I've done my best..I can downvote from my phone., but not closevote:(
@rightføld Well _canonical_/frequently asked questions tend to be broad. See the famous stackoverflow.com/questions/12573816/….
21:17
It's mostly famous because no one on SO wants to ever hash that out again :)
user1804599
At least OP has a slight idea of what he is talking about there.
user1804599
I want "basic understanding of the problem" close reason back.
@rightføld Grigore created it specifically to serve as entry. In those day he created a few of those
user1804599
Fuck "questions" that are random blobs of words.
21:18
has anyone even been so far as to use do what like know what?
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@πάνταῥεῖ Yes, this is broad, but 1) it's certain what the question is about, 2) it's about C++, 3) it's well formulated, and 4) it probably helps thousands of C++ newbies every year. All of that your question is not.
I want 'Clueless, bone-idle, deadbeat moron' back.
@rightføld how is isis even remotely tied to race? if anything you could call me a religion bashing bigot
@TemplateRex It's more religionist than racist.
PANTA RHEI
21:20
which is even dumber IYAM
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@TemplateRex ish racies
Did I read that right
at least if you accuse a guy of being black, it's mostly apparent whether or not he is, indeed, black.
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@Cicada Pretty much.
OTOH I find it hard to imagine that you couldn't pass for Islamic if you were desperate and studied beforehand
21:20
Also, bloodsucking slave-master.
@Puppy it's not the accusation of being black, it's the automatic inference of inferiority that is racist
NOMNOM
all your bloods are belong to us.
@Cicada "Did I read that right" Yes!
@TemplateRex Right, but at least that inference is based on something that is actually remotely an observable fact, even if the conclusion is totally unwarranted.
Everything flows
21:22
@Puppy right, but for ISIS we only observed that they are from London :-)
at least the knife guy
Everything blows.
@MartinJames nothing throws
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I think I'll become muslim.
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It seems fun.
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Atheism is getting boring.
21:24
@rightføld that'll be the last thinking you'd be doing for a while then
oneway street towards submission
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RACIST
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wollah wollah hoer
Give me a chance. Another 5 pints of Wainwright and the throwing will come.
@rightføld it's a pan-racial religion, so accusing islam of anything is everything except racism
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@Puppy You can assign a lambda to a variable.
21:26
@Cicada "Everything flows" Basically, yes! That's the essence of this motto.
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Func<int, int> square = (x) => x * x;
@rightføld RACIST
@πάνταῥεῖ you should ask @sehe whether it's not too incongruent to apply the Latin "motto" to a Greek aphorism ;-)
in any case, a motto is usually not an assertion of fact but more like a statement of belief or intent
@rightføld That is really not the same thing as auto lam = [](x) { return x * x; }.
it's not polymorphic anymore and you can't use type inference.
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@rightføld become a priest. WOLOLOOOOO youtube.com/watch?v=-IgAVQdHJQ4
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21:30
oh god
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I don't see what you need polymorphic lambdas for, though.
user1804599
Oh wait you cannot define methods everywhere in C#.
@TemplateRex My point of tipping my toe into that water, is that I can't ever tip it into the same water again. "Everything flows" doesn't really catch the πάντα ῥεῖ metaphor well :-P ...
@πάνταῥεῖ Heraclites precognitive of the Heisenberg uncertainty principle, hm
Where's season 9 of columbo
FFS
They really got better at this
21:38
someone should make image detection software that can recognize if a picture is of comic form
already exists
std::is_comic_form
user1804599
@corvid Why?
std::comic_sans
also aliased as std::commit_suicide_if_necessary
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@Cicada Write a proposal.
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21:39
inb4 Cicada really writes a proposal.
@TemplateRex How are you to be spoken of? 'He/she who downvotes and closevotes lots of really bad questions' is a bit of an unmanageable title.
@rightføld Now that's an idea
so I can filter out all the comics in my 10gb picture folder instead of looking for them
user1804599
Doing it by hand is faster than writing a program to do it for you.
@TemplateRex I'd call it Italian. But no doubt it has latin roots
21:40
What if people like this really existed?
user1804599
"rightfold" is Swahili for "sweetest girl ever"
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@Sofffia You mean Buzz Aldrin?
@rightføld FALSE
Oh wait... you are doing that thing.
@πάνταῥεῖ everything is in continuous flux
user1804599
21:43
@Sofffia What thing?
You know. That thing with the mouth.
You're gonna have to be more specific
user1804599
I have no idea what the fuck you are talking about.
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I want proper chocolate.
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Fuck Lion and Milky Way.
21:45
I consumed far too great a quantity of the aforementioned todaty.
@rightføld I don't know how to describe it. Why did you say a false statement?
@MartinJames hm?
@Sofffia /cc @sehe
@Cicada That's intentional. Don't star that.
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21:46
You're as terrible as sehe and thecoshman.
We'll never know why you did such a disgraceful thing.
I'm perfectly unantidecryptable
You mean non-inunantidecryptable?
I've been in this terrible position for way too long
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99 9[1-$][\$@$@$@$@\/*=[1-$$[%\1-$@]?0=[\$.' ,\]?]?]#
Stop him, he's trying to summon Ctulhu
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21:49
Prints all prime numbers between 0 and 100!
Laying on my back with my computer on my chest and my head at 90°
@rightføld Wtf, is that turing complete?
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No.
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A program that merely prints all prime numbers between 0 and 100 is not Turing-complete.
@Cicada that's not even close to trying to tackle html
21:50
@rightføld Is that a sneak peek of your new wonderful language?
@rightføld It could be
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@Sofffia No, it's a FALSE program.
puzzle: what is T and U in struct Foo { T x; U x; };?
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Nothing, because that fails to compile.
No, it compiles
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21:51
@Cicada I read that as Coliru and I had no idea what you were talking about.
@EvgenyPanasyuk Not on its own.
user1804599
You cannot have two members with the same name.
@Sofffia Yes, T and U are defined earlier
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If T and U are macros then I hope ISIS cuts your head of.
No macros
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21:52
SSCCE.
@EvgenyPanasyuk You obviously want us to say types.
TYPES
There
using T = void(int); using U = void(double);
Yup, types.
I win
Who would have thought.
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No.
Cicada would have.
user1804599
Jefffrey mentioned types first.
user1804599
You're all horrible people.
21:53
> people
They are not member functions, they are member function pointer objects.
Or something.
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ß[^$1_=~][,]# is beautiful code.
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@Sofffia bullshit.
@Sofffia they are member functions
@EvgenyPanasyuk I don't get it. What's puzzling?
Ooooh.
I get it.
They have the same name because they are an overload of each other.
Clever.
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s/an overload/overloads/
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@Sofffia Rather dumb.
A overloads
@rightføld You said it wouldn't compile because they had the same names. You failed.
21:56
why the fuck does installing Flash require administrator rights
Pizza, indian, chinese or wot? Fucking management decisions:(
Indian
indian the best
user1804599
Installing should require administrator rights unless it installs to your home directory.
user1804599
Giving write access to everything to everyone is a horrible idea.
21:57
right, and I don't see why Flash should not be able to run per-user.
I personally don't like indian, but I see you as someone who would enjoy indian the most.
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Probably because it was badly written.
@Puppy It needs rootkit privileges
OK, turbo-phall it is.
user1804599
Who cares.
21:58
I care because I'm using someone else's machine and I want to watch Zero Punctuation but I can't and I'd like to know why the fuck that is the case.
user1804599
Ask the owner to install Flash.
Don't install Flash on someone else's machine without their consent.
user1804599
Or use a VM.
STL is a pretty fun guy
People kill you for less.
user1804599
21:58
Or Chrome or Firefox I forgot which one comes with Flash built-in.
I doubt I can run a VM without admin rights :P
You can. On user space.
user1804599
Run Windows 95 in Bochs.
yeah, like that's gonna result in an enjoyable video-watching experience
22:00
Just mount /dev/imagination
It's pretty disturbing how he says "std" though
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@rightføld chili chocolate!
"That's a stud string"
Uuuuuuh
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or salted
user1804599
Eww.
Ell
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salt makes chocorate fravor come out so much stronger
22:01
honestly I don't see what the big deal is with "stud"
I typically say "stood" instead but you gotta say it somehow
I have to take on the cost of transport. Anne is legal to drive ATM, so I have to bribe her with a meal and other stuff so she won't drink any more Carling.
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I want crafted chocolate.
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Not that factory shit.
@MartinJames I didn't know you could drive ATMs
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@Cicada cool
22:02
meh
Ell
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comes with gcc too
chocolate is just a chemical state and an easy one at that
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@rightføld nothing wrong with factories
I don't really see how coming out of a factory would notably reduce the quality
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Says Kit Kat man.
22:03
that was a long time ago (and also, nom nom)
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:puke:
Speak
to be totally fair, I could not physically consume the vast majority of all chocolate at the time, so it's not like there was much competition
What are you trying to say? Nom Nom what? Nomic?
Nomad?
@Cicada Sure. I just need a tractor unit and some heavy chain.
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22:04
Reminds me of this bitch (NSFW).
reminds me of your mother
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Same thing.
hmm
I need to get a new email account
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lol
I have a domain, I just don't know much about forwading it to a real email provider
user1804599
22:10
sleeptimebye
hmm
seems like both Google and Microsoft ended the ability to forward email from your own domain to their email services for free
could pay like five bucks a month but eh
I've just seen a spider kill a fly.
It was amazing.
Now kill the spider
The cat is awaiting him.
She has just killed the smaller spider.
While the bigger spider is taking care of the fly.
Ell
Ell
I'm imbibing
I love that word
22:19
The fly buzzing and trying to get away and the spider tying the fly up.
Ell
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@Sofffia kinky
@Puppy Zoho has a free plan but dunno about their reliability
Fascinating
well I actually couldn't help but notice that my site is still up even though the domain expired :P
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22:22
@Sofffia haha
wonder what you've been doing to get that listed on the front page.
I've been productive, of course.
Of course
naturally
decltype schmecltype
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lounge is quiet now
I'm gonna write my runtime overload resolution code now
22:34
@KerrekSB Huh. I'm quite surprised coliru.stacked-crooked.com/a/da3fa6b58b8c88f9 works. I'd have thought that the template argument for std::vector would be non-deducible context. The mind boggles :) "How?!". I mean, yes, it's nothing compared to deduction rules in Haskell, but still
@Puppy maybe @Sofffia watched a shady porn parody of Loopers
@Puppy fastmail.fm/signup is quite amazing (I have a referral link if you're interested)
@sehe There's nothing non-deducible there, it's just regular "I have an instantiation for X args, give me those args".
@sehe I'm winding down for the night now; gonna come back to this in a couple weeks maybe
@sehe What warrants paying for an email service? As opposed to just yknow, getting a gmail account?
Yeah. The cinch being that the args to be deduced were the args to a template arg. I have to straighten my thoughts out there. C++ is nice for doing your head in liuke this
22:38
@Borgleader I have a gmail account, but I can't turn, say, [email protected] into a gmail account for free.
oh i see
@Rapptz Yeah, don't see how that's essentially simpler (I got it from stackoverflow.com/questions/26392615/…)
I know where you got it from :p
nvm
@sehe Non-deducibility typically is only introduced when you're trying to deduce the result of a computation rather than the arguments.
@Puppy yeah, that much I intuited. I was erring on the safe side. Pleasant surprises still surprise me
@Puppy ok. FWIW google apps starts at $5/user/month or $50 /year
22:52
yeah I saw that
right I is off for le night
@Borgleader Not being GMail
23:15
@sehe My free trial is almost over and I am going to start paying for it. Does the referral link still helps?
I'm just popping in to say that I don't like it that whenever I go off-gridish on holiday the Lounge plunges into crisis.
I have no fucking idea what happened between whoever but I like sehe and I like Lightness and I would be sad to see either of them go.
Also, I do think Tomalak gets treated unfairly with some regularity.
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I don't think LRiO is leaving is he?
Now I'm going to sleep. Gotta play some board games tomorrow.
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Nooo they implemented my idea!!! alpha.wallhaven.cc
@R.MartinhoFernandes good nops
user1646075
23:23
Morning all. Did I miss anything? No? good.
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@R.MartinhoFernandes LRiO is an idealist. With a warrior mentality. just sayin'
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??
@Ell He already left.
@Sofffia He did? Damn
user1646075
23:29
Hope he uses the time to learn to take things less personally, and to let some things ride. The kid has potential
6 hours ago, by Lightness Races in Orbit
This will be perceived by some as a "rage quit", because it fits with their chosen narrative. It's not one. I believe pretty much anyone would take a Lounge break given all the above. Heck, Bartek took one for no reason at all! But I hope that, while you're being fed lie after lie about me, by those who would deem themselves morally superior despite evidence to the contrary, you try to remember some of the good times. But I shall find a new home. So long!
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what 'lie and lie'? he'd just pick on everyone and anyone, and expects to get away with that? I learned the hard way that nobody likes that shit, or the person who thinks it's their duty to spread that kind of goodness.
I'm actually fairly pissed that everything that happened today lead Tomalak to quit. I better go to bed before I say things I'll regret.
What'd I miss
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23:41
@Rapptz Good question. "As the world turns". Wonder where it all starts.
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somewhere in this slice - I remember reading the top message before I went to bed:
http://chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/10/2014/10/15/11-16
@Rapptz LRiO left apparently
thats all i know
@Rapptz The short version: @Sehe quit as room owner, citing LRiO's behavior as part of the reason. sbi noticed, and didn't like that. I agreed. LRiO said he was settling things privately with another (unnamed) room owner, then shortly later said he was leaving. Much discussion of his faults (or lack thereof) ensued, along with some about room ownership in general.
Ah.
I didn't really dislike LRiO.

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