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12:00 PM
I'll have to check the video when I get back to the office.
 
@sehe I tried it once. Two hours of chanting and my old Escort would still not start:(
 
template instantiation visualisation seems neato
 
but hey take what I say with a grain of salt, you guys have more experience than me
the macro to constexpr refactoring looks like magic to me
 
@MartinJames lol
 
I'm comparing this with what VS provides too
I don't think VS has any of this stuff
 
12:01 PM
@Rapptz that germanism title
 
It's certainly cool but it is kinda trivial, man.
Wouldn't describe it as magic.
 
yeah that's kinda trivial.
 
@Alex lol, VS
 
I thought the other stuff was cooler.
 
@sehe Again what learned!
 
12:02 PM
like raw pointers to unique_ptr etc.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes In the act!
 
Loop to algorithm is cool. R# has that.
 
also unlike Qt Creator it seems to support auto on hover
trivial maybe, but still kinda neato.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes for c# or also c++? I haven't noticed it for c+_
 
12:04 PM
(Perhaps because I use algorithms)
 
Haven't tried the C++ build in a while.
 
cpx
I hear that in C++11 we are able initialize a 2D vector like this. So, same is possible from class constructor ?
 
they also have C-array to std::array apparently
not sure who would use this though
 
@cpx use {} instead of ()
 
12:06 PM
oh it automatically detects bounds
int x[] = { 1, 2, 3, 4 }; -> std::array<int, 4> x = {{1,2,3,4}};
 
Dunno. If you're using C-array for the auto-bounds, you probably want to keep it that way.
 
probably
 
I have a few arrays like that where I wouldn't switch because if I change the list I don't want to maintain its count.
 
cpx
Thanks
 
also this isn't Eclipse apparently
it's his own thing, based on Eclipse.
 
12:11 PM
This probably goes through @Cat's mind more than you think
NSFW words
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes make_array!
 
Ell
TIL bored octupi will commit suicide
 
A few months ago I added make_array for string literals :v
since it kind of didn't make sense to not have it
 
> The standard plural in English of octopus is octopuses. However, the word octopus comes from Greek and the Greek plural form octopodes is still occasionally used. The plural form octopi, formed according to rules for some Latin plurals, is incorrect.
 
Octopedes
 
12:14 PM
οκτοπος
 
it's in the dictionary now
 
Ell
@sehe well I never
 
just like literally has a changed meaning and electrocuted no longer just means dying from electric shock.
 
oh well, America has "humor" in their "flavor" of dictionaries too
 
those are real words, yes.
 
12:16 PM
@Rapptz so, what does electrocuted mean? It means something becomes so much cuter on YT when under charge?
 
both death by shock and shock itself.
Verb: electrocute (third-person singular simple present electrocutes, present participle electrocuting, simple past and past participle electrocuted)
  1. (transitive) To cause death from immediate complications resulting from electric shock.
  2. (informal) To inflict a severe electric shock, not necessarily fatally.
  3. electrocute
  4. electrocute
under #2
granted I'm not sure if any dictionary added the second informal definition of it
but I know Octopi and literally were added
 
user1646075
@Ell Oh, you must have!
 
Googling COM anything is surprisingly difficult
 
off I go.
adios
 
@jalf try dcom or com+? these should be relatively synonymous by now
 
12:26 PM
@Xeo But what for?
 
Ell
electrocute is a portmanteau of execute and electr..something isn't it?
 
Xeo
?
 
@sehe It's octopices.
@Ell ..ic?
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes Stopices.
 
Stopex is not a word.
 
Xeo
12:27 PM
It is now.
 
yesterday, by Cat Plus Plus
Languages define dictionaries not vice versa
 
Ell
^yes this!
 
@CatPlusPlus Yes, vice-versa.
It's a mutual feedback process.
 
user1646075
@Ell hmmm "1885-90, Americanism; electro- + (exe)cute"
 
Words that people don't know are lookupped in the dictionary.
 
12:29 PM
lookupped
lol
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes sounds like a reverse mutex
 
@TonyTheLion I had to contort the sentence structure to shove that in.
 
Ell
looked up
 
Lookupii
 
12:31 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes OED bro
 
Ell
@R.MartinhoFernandes look is verb though right?
 
I think I might be damaging someone.
Dude, don't take everything I say at face value, just because I'm right sometimes :< I want to be able to make jokes without causing harm.
Meh, still sounds wrong.
I fuckupped in there somewhere.
 
Jokii
 
Ell
@R.MartinhoFernandes haha you're not causing harm
 
12:39 PM
Just to be clear: that site is not serious.
Well, I think the author meant it to be serious, but it's bullshit.
 
well, lookup isn't a verb.... nothing bullshit there
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes like I said, OED or GTFO :P
 
Are you guys still going
 
loloed
Spotify shuffling is so terrible
I just got 'song a -> song b -> song a' god
 
user1804599
12:44 PM
lol
 
truly random shuffling sucks balls though.
 
user1804599
Shuffling is like the easiest feature to implement ever.
 
Xeo
@CatPlusPlus great success.
 
It should be biased towards things that haven't been played recently
 
Xeo
So instead of shuffling the list once, and going through it, they randomly pick a new song each time?
 
12:45 PM
@rightføld sure, but good shuffling is hard.
 
Uniform random is terrible for shuffling
 
@Xeo sometimes 'random' playlists are better when a song repeats
sometimes random playlists are better when they group similar songs
 
iTunes shuffling, best shuffling.
 
they are definitely better when they pick out that you are skipping one type of song, so start playing a different type.
 
Xeo
@LightnessRacesinOrbit GTFQED
 
12:46 PM
tl;dr good shufflering is hide
 
Good shuffling: not what Spotify is doing
Radio has a terrible repeat rate too
 
Good chatting: now what Cat is doing
@CatPlusPlus I've never had a single repeat on Spotify radio. Not tried shuffle.
My problems with Spotify are GUI design and horrendous responsiveness problems
 
... can I get Italics again?
 
I don't use the GUI much so can't say I care much about that
@thecoshman Jesus christ
 
@thecoshman what are you willing to do
 
12:49 PM
Are you going to be quitting and rejoining everything
5
 
@sehe vOv have my name in Italics.
 
Ok, go ahead
 
@CatPlusPlus ... I should start with the job, hopefully come back with more money :D
 
Xeo
@CatPlusPlus Worse than rightfold.
 
@thecoshman What? Why would you ask for room ownership not even a week after deciding it was best that you weren't a room owner any more?
 
12:49 PM
@Xeo hardly, I don't try to pretend it didn't happen.
 
I don't want a room owner who can't even figure out whether he should be a room owner.
 
Xeo
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I guess that's a typo?
 
@Xeo Originally, but I decided the message was better this way so I left it
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit well, I was drunk enough to not remember doing it for one thing.
 
Xeo
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Ah, I was waiting 2 mins so you couldn't edit it out in case it was.
 
12:50 PM
@thecoshman I don't want a room owner who makes executive room owner decisions while he's so mortalled he can't even remember what he's doing.
@Xeo haha you
 
Room owners are serious bsness
 
They kinda are now. Their powers are increasing
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit de-ownering yourself is hardly a big deal.
 
In few years we might even get uneditable audits
 
@thecoshman What if you'd decided to repeatedly kick everyone, instead? Clearly you have little regard for your role, when in that state!
 
Xeo
12:51 PM
Hey, that'd decrease our powers!
 
Also, since when was this a damn vote?
 
@thecoshman It doesn't have to be a vote for me to have and express an opinion.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit oh no! someone was drunk!
@LightnessRacesinOrbit ¬_¬ you win this round misses
 
@thecoshman "oh no! someone was drunk and said 'I shouldnt be room owner'"*
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit now now, don't be petty.
 
Xeo
12:53 PM
If you can't control your actions while drunk (or are getting that drunk in the first place), you get no compassion from me.
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Oct 3 at 1:52, by thecoshman
using my amazing drunk logic engine, I deem the following the right thing to do...
 
@thecoshman I don't understand what's "petty" about accurately representing the facts of the situation.
 
@thecoshman Why? Shuffling is not the same as playing randomly.
 
@Sofffia smear campaign
 
12:54 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes sort of the point... truly random is not a good way of 'shuffling' a playlist.
fine, I'll get really drunk and suggest I get added again :P perfect logic.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit With the Nomic game, he quit and then asked if he could rejoin the day after.
 
Arguably, truly random playing is not "shuffling" at all. But I think there's scope for allowing the definition to go both ways.
@R.MartinhoFernandes haha
 
@thecoshman That would mean you can control yourself while drunk.
 
@Sofffia it's worth a drink isn't it :P
 
@thecoshman Being drunk is not what enabled you to control the room owners list. Being a room owner was what enabled you to control the room owners list. You are no longer a room owner. I believe this to be a flaw in your plan.
 
12:56 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit shhhh.... let me get drunk first.
but hey, at least it turns out my drunk logic was right. vOv
@R.MartinhoFernandes fairly sure I was drunk then too... not that drunk though...
 
@thecoshman just get drunk and then pretend your owning the room real hard
 
@thecoshman Dude.
You might have a problem.
 
Hey, look, Martin is there too
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes nah, I got real drunk last week and wasn't bummed out one bit!
 
1:00 PM
@thecoshman Touché!
@thecoshman I was quite drunk last night.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit don't get all touchy with me! (¬_¬ no I do know what the words means)
 
user1642556
I need a fun new language/API to toy with
 
user1642556
recommendations?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I do, my name's not all italics
 
I wonder why Vim is so concentrated on children in Uganda
like, that specific place
 
1:04 PM
@Erik Sir, would you please make a list of what languages you have already tried or "played" with?
 
@AlexM. Because Bram has close relations the ICCF.
Yesterday I found a some code I didn't understand and I asked my coworkers about it. No one knew why the code was there. Guess what the git blame revealed.
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@R.MartinhoFernandes makes sense now
 
In what wierd time-zone are Loungers drunk at this time of, (my), day?
 
@MartinJames Um, weren't you utterly hammered this time one day last week?
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes You, 2 weeks ago, at 3am.
 
1:16 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit No, that was a misunderstanding - I was describing the night before:)
 
//Singlten PopUpsViewManager pointer
static PopUpsViewManager m_sInstance=null;
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit ..unless it was a Sunday, in which case it is likely that I was somewhat below-par.
 
I dunno where to start, even
(this is C#)
 
@MartinJames aah
 
@Xeo Me, though ten months ago.
 
1:18 PM
heh, it was a Sunday I was thinking of
Sep 21 at 16:49, by Lightness Races in Orbit
@MartinJames s/sleep/to pass out/ It's ten to six, man.
can't believe that was so long ago
 
Now everyone mocks me.
 
@AlexM. Maybe it cannot be constructed at that time 'cos some required parameter is not yet available?
 
@MartinJames that is probably the last thing I would have considered
I'd have started by saying that the thing there isn't even a pointer
first of all
 
I'd start with //S
No space.
 
@AlexM. PopUpsViewManager is not a pointer type?
 
1:21 PM
this is not unsafe C#
it's a reference type
actually I'm pretty sure that even in unsafe C# you can at most use pointers towards things that are already managed, but I may be wrong here
 
@AlexM. you absolutely cannot
 
@AlexM. I don't know what it is. Presumably, it's descended from 'public abstract class ViewManager : IDisposable'.
 
C# has a concept of pointers using the C++ * syntax, but that can only ever be used in unsafe code.
 
@MartinJames even so, it's still not a pointer
 
@MartinJames so a reference type is what it sounds like a reference counted pointer basically (hard reference). IDisposible indicates that it holds onto unmanaged resources that should be released manually by calling either Close() or Dispose()
 
1:35 PM
@Mgetz Orite;)
 
@MartinJames and now you know how .NET Native is implemented in a very abstract nutshell
On a side note... Ordered a new laptop
this one's display is dying... rapidly
 
@Mgetz Backlight is dying?
 
@MartinJames my understanding is it's the inverter board
 
@Mgetz :(
 
I turned my laptop into a console :\
 
1:41 PM
I'd have to take a picture to show you how bad it is. Imagine a vertical line of white pixels down the center of the screen about two characters wide at 10pt
 
now that I saw how nicely it goes connected to the TV, I'm really thinking about leaving it there and getting a lighter laptop to carry around
even if it's slower
 
@AlexM. I may do that, I've been meaning to build a new linux box and it would be good for that
 
@AlexM. I'm using a 28" LG TV as a monitor. It was cheaper than any 28" 'real' monitor at the time and has enough resolution etc. for my purposes. I've never actually used the TV bit - wonder if it still works??
 
my TV only gets used as a TV when my family drops by lol
 
My poor Asus laptop has not worked since I plugged my 'System Destroyer' Samsung Note into it:(
 
Ell
1:45 PM
A phone broke your laptop?
 
@MartinJames that would have been cheaper but I like the higher resolution I get from my Dell 27"
 
@Ell Yes. It's a sad story. There is something 'strange' about the Galaxy Note USB. It put my desktop into a state where I had to power-cycle it to get it back and then destroyed my laptop. I haven't plugged it into anything since, (except the dumb charger).
 
Ell
That is really odd
You should complain and get your money back
 
@Ell Coshman, Lightness etc. were pissing themselves as I described the deepening chaos as I struggled with the task of trying to copy a file to the phone:(
 
2:06 PM
I was evidently laughing so hard that I forgot all about it
 
Ell
Guys
What do I do with used cooking oil?
 
Ewwwww
 
@Ell Recycling centres often have a container for it, or sell it to someone with an old diesel car.
 
My desk looks like a bomb dropped on it
I need to do some cleaning
 
2:16 PM
@TonyTheLion Now you come to mention it, my desk has an oven-glove on it. Not sure why.
 
What's a desk?
 
You mean the thing below all that crap?
 
@MartinJames I'm not sure either why you keep oven gloves on your desk
 
2:17 PM
mine has three empty cups of coffee on it
 
and papers and books
 
Ell
Okay my dad is going to reuse t
It
Fuck me my finger hurts
 
@Ell Fuck yourself with something else.
 
Ell
But that's what you get for putting something in boiling oil with your hands :3
 
2:19 PM
@MartinJames this
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit lol
 
@AlexM. It really looks like a MacBook Pro with a Dell logo on it
(Everyone just copies Apple's design now)
@LightnessRacesinOrbit She's hot, so it has to be true.
 
@EvgenyPanasyuk on the contrary, manipulating the input stream on the fly :)
 
looks like Elisha Cuthbert
 
Ell
Apple's laptops are good
Besides chiclet keys
 
2:21 PM
ah, that's because it is Elisha Cuthbert
 
@EtiennedeMartel nothing bad in that!
I see a laptop that looks good, has good performance and is cheaper than a Mac
 
Tower Bridge N/B there's a lane blocked due to an abandoned car..... Anyone missing theirs? http://t.co/9H9agFPEiH
lol
 
A laptop with good performance?
 
@EtiennedeMartel I guess everyone figured they could just sell the same thing as Apple less.
 
@EtiennedeMartel yes, I find laptops to provide enough performance for my needs
 
2:25 PM
@TonyTheLion o_0
 
this one has a quad i7-4510U... which is probably more than I need because my old laptop's i5 480m which is a dual core w/ HT is good enough for me
 
fuck my HDD was failing so I needed to reinstall everything
what a waste of a day <:)
 
@rubenvb onto a new drive right...
 
@thecoshman lol yeah
 
@rubenvb is that a smiley face wearing a party hat?
 
2:27 PM
@thecoshman yeah...
`<:)
Better?
 
<:P
 
man, RDC connection to my work computer has completely borked
 
The fuck is wrong with Time.
 
* correction, the i7 above is also a dual w/ HT
 
2:28 PM
Also, shredding the old drive currently, just to be sure.
 
> “I know that everybody wants to buy the iPhone 6, but you’ve got to wait.”

Why? Mercury is in retrograde between October 4 and 25
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes nothing wrong with a bit of satire
 
@TonyTheLion ಠ_ಠ
don't, I don't want to have to leave.
 
> I am an Ardent Feminist, which surprises many people because I spend so much time objectifying women.
 
2:33 PM
<insert deer eating popcorn gif here>
 
paywall (or just accountwall? can't tell thanks to adblock lol). moving on.
 
@thecoshman I don't think it is :(
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes don't pop my bubble
 
@rubenvb Don't buy a hard drive now. Mercury is retrograde.
 
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deciding whether or not I want to read an article was never so simple
> "So in the last weeks of development, our teams were able to meet a stretch goal and the campaign of Halo 2 Anniversary now runs 60 fps at a crisp resolution of 1328x1080," Ayoub said, "which is a significant and meaningful boost in image quality we think fans are really going to appreciate."
lol so many developers are having trouble achieving the 1080p that was so much advertised for new consoles
 
2:37 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Don't worry, the IT guy still had one laying around :-p
 
@TonyTheLion You need work on your typing. "stupid" starts with "stu", not "int".
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@R.MartinhoFernandes no, HDD are fine, it's SSD that Mercury bones
or maybe it's screwing with LCDs...
 
@JerryCoffin lol
 
@AlexM. It's Mercury.
 
The robot is stuck in an infinite loop again
Maybe it's Mercury?
 
2:39 PM
@rubenvb If it was actually infinite, that would obviously be "still", not "again".
 
¬_¬ this sucks balls. Transferring project to new teams has gone from "just train them up with this code base" to "train them how to do everything ever with the company"...
 
@JerryCoffin infinite if not interrupted by friendly people that don't want him to overheat.
 
@AlexM. So it probably has half an hour of battery life and can be used to cook meals?
 
@EtiennedeMartel actually, it requires significantly less power than my i5 laptop
which is neither hot nor battery draining
well, it drains the battery quickly now, but when I bought it I was able to get 2 to 3 hours out of it while web browsing and watching videos
 
"high performance laptops" lie in the "zone of suck" between actual laptops and desktops: they don't last long without being plugged in and they're still not as powerful as an actual PC.
 
2:46 PM
never tried gaming on the battery because meh, even performance is affected by that
 
@rubenvb his performance is directly related to his heat, so that as he warms up, he works slower. It's an inbuilt mechanism to avoid him overheating. He will reach a stable temperature just write for making pancakes.
 
@EtiennedeMartel ok
but high performance laptops are better than normal laptops
and when you need a laptop, and performance, you get a high performance laptop
 
@AlexM. at what?
 
@thecoshman at being faster, I guess
e.g. games
 
@AlexM. They're more expensive than a PC of equivalent power and they're not really mobile (and you can't really put them on your lap without burning your balls).
 
2:48 PM
as I said, my current laptop doesn't get hot
 
If you want to move, get a laptop. If you want to do high performance stuff, get a PC. Don't settle for some ugly hybrid.
 
I have no idea what kind of laptops you've used
 
@AlexM. no ones needs a laptop. A laptop is not a requirement by it self, it's a solution. Portability is a requirement, and high performance laptops compromise on that.
 
well what's the alternative to laptops in that situation?
 
@AlexM. Play lame games on your phone.
 
2:50 PM
@thecoshman Now that's a feature
 
@JerryCoffin hey, now you can play Baldur's Gate and SW KOTOR on phones :D
they're old as hell though
in any case, I want to play games when I have the time and I'm away from home
and I don't think a cheap laptop would deliver properly
and yes I know desktops are better, obviously
 
I play games just fine on my laptop.
It does get kinda hot with DF, but then not even my desktop can handle that.
 
but when it's time for holidays for example, I extend them with a bit of paid leave and spend the time at my family's house
that usually translates to at least 2 weeks (usually 4) away from my desktop
I can't survive that much without games
 
I got fed up with DF. It's annoyingly inconsistent about things. I'd hate to see his source code. About 100 versions of code to select an area to do something to.
 
@thecoshman Everyone warned you about it.
 
2:56 PM
whenever I go back home and see that I can play somewhat recent (hell, the laptop itself is almost 4 years old now) games on my laptop just fine, I remember how good of an investment the thing was
 
Stellar contribution:
+1 for post-optimizer optimizer that optimizes the optimized code generated by the optimizer.Cicada Oct 3 at 0:18
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I can see the potential for it, but balls to that.
 
@thecoshman It can't be too terrible, though: the things people have done with DFHack alone are a testament to that.
 
Had more fun playing with Prison Architect, though I doubt it will last long.
 
I bet it doesn't have 14000-line functions.
 
2:57 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes that's testament to peoples determination
 
That's my new litmus test of terribleness. I should probably raise my standards.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes bet it does :P
the entire code base is one big fuck off infinite loop, with endless checks and inner loops for all the game logic :P
oh, with // TODO: refactor this
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes We've upped our standards. Now up yours. [sorry, I've probably used that one before...]
 

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