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11:00
@BartekBanachewicz But what is it
@R.MartinhoFernandes demonstrable.
@dolan Security
Which is irrelevant.
oh wait let me rephrase
fucking remembering of bullshit pdfs and then recreating them on the shit of paper remotely resembling security
Hello and welcome to every educational system ever
11:02
Once I get my BSc, I am going to remove it from my CV.
I'll remove the whole "education" section.
I swear it.
I thought you were in a MS?
Why don't you remove it now?
My bad
@R.MartinhoFernandes because removing it without having it has less impact for me
11:04
@Puppy No one said "saying it like you did makes it demonstrable", nor "saying it like you did means it is demonstrable".
I want to be able to say "I have it but I don't give a jack shit about it"
Constructive
@R.MartinhoFernandes Save it for Nomic
It's perfectly fine to analyse sentences without looking at their truth value.
@R.MartinhoFernandes But that's your opinion
11:05
@dolan I don't want to work for anyone that wants my BSc sans if those are the international corporate legal reasons
@Puppy I'm not being pedantic.
I'm trying to explain to you how Tony was commenting on the way Bartek phrased it.
yes, I got that part earlier
the real problem here is that I'm not eating my lunch.
also that I've been watching way too much 3RFTS
one thing that really fucks me off is people email me about fucking updates to issues in the tracker.
luckily, I can just hide behind 'bullshit' day and focus on my own work :D
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@rightfold Tell this to @Rapptz. I want to convince him that new_userdata is a REALLY bad name for that function, since it's extremely confusing. I also want to chop off the class name too, since it was from a time when I was hurrdurr and didn't understand quite what I was doing.
that time ended?
11:09
fuck.
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I think lua.open_type() or lua.new_type() would make more sense.
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Since lua already has a function called lua_openlib, open seems to make more sense.
> Everything anybody ever says is an opinion
thats one hell of a generalization if I ever saw one
@TonyTheLion unless demonstrated otherwise.
but yea thanks for your "valuable" input on the matter. I'll keep it mind.
11:11
why do you choose to only read the half of what was written?
@BartekBanachewicz Doesn't make it any less of a generality
it's absolutely true.
well, when you're discussing a general case, then of course it's a generalization, how else could you discuss a general situation.
but that's just my opinion
11:11
@TonyTheLion Ignore these fucks I'm on your side
@BartekBanachewicz It is not.
and secondly
I can say whatever I want, regardless of being an opinion or not.
Soon you won't be able to say any fucking thing before 100 disclaimers about "opinions", "race equality", religions, origins, sexuality, and who-the-fucks-what
11:13
13 hours ago, by R. Martinho Fernandes
In this case you'd write misleading client code where you think this is an interesting exercise for vertices. You consider an hexagon at compile time? See above :)
That's not an opinion.
That's nonsense.
if you didn't want other people's opinions, you shouldn't have discussed it in a public chatroom
my input is exactly as valuable as yours.
unless proven otherwise
Are lies opinions?
seriously saying "I think" every time is retarded
Are definitions opinions?
11:15
and if anyone thinks otherwise I'll make a userscript that adds that to every single one of my messages
There are plenty of things people can say that are not opinions.
@R.MartinhoFernandes Why do I hear this in the voice of Bender
so you can run it in your browser and finally feel fucking good about what you read in an internet chatroom
yes, definitions are absolutely opinions.
they are opinions that you choose to treat as fact for the purpose of a particular discussion.
Oh, I see.
You are of the opinion that "opinion" means something entirely different.
11:18
since lies are not demonstrably true, then the reader does have to consider them as opinion.
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Is there a way to make Terminal in Linux respects Ctrl + C / Ctrl + V act as copy/paste instead of... whatever the fuck it does?
ctrl+c is interrupt
dunno what ctrl+v is
@ThePhD Ctrl-C is "reserved"
o·pi·nion /əˈpɪnjÉ™n/ noun utterance
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@Puppy You would think they'd make that Ctrl + I...
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11:19
Oh well.
@ThePhD No, I wouldn't.
Congratulations, you just managed to reduce another word to uselessness.
@ThePhD no, because Terminal doesn't run on Linux.
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discriminating between things that are demonstrably true and those that are not is a pretty useful thing to do I think.
11:22
Opinions are opinions regardless of their truth value.
if they can be demonstrated to be true then they're facts.
so I guess they can be opinions even if they're true but you can't demonstrate it
aren't those axioms?
things that are considered to be true but never formally demonstrated?
no.
@Puppy So you mean that the two are mutually exclusive?
@R.MartinhoFernandes Yes.
11:25
Oh, well.
It's very hard to discuss with you without asking for all your definitions opinions first.
> An axiom or postulate is a premise or starting point of reasoning. As classically conceived, an axiom is a premise so evident as to be accepted as true without controversy.
close enough
or rather, you could argue I guess that some people may differ on whether a particular demonstration is correct and really proves the thing to be true or not.
@R.MartinhoFernandes that's just your opinion
Does that mean "there are six planets in the Solar System" became an opinion after 1781?
Also, is it an opinion when I quote "there are six planets in the Solar System"?
I say it's just a quote.
indiegogo.com/projects/bttn <-- NICE, now they just need to make one that says DO NOT PRESS
11:31
There's no view or anything in it.
There's nothing to prove.
It's a quote.
And what of fiction?
When I tell a joke, I'm not necessarily expressing any views. I'm just trying to make people (sometimes myself) laugh.
I just wanted to develop nice software.
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@BartekBanachewicz i just want comfortable shoes.
@BartekBanachewicz then did it
"This sentence quotes itself."
This sentence doesn't quote itself.
NONONONONO not gonna go down that road again.
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:3c
11:39
@ThePhD yes, that's a very good point to make
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To grep all files ending in .ac
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I would do...
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grep -r "STUFF HERE" *.ac ?
grep pattern *.ac?
11:39
'Twas brillig, and the slithy toves
Did gyre and gimble in the wabe;
All mimsy were the borogoves,
And the mome raths outgrabe.
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If pattern has spaces, I need quotes, yes?
@ThePhD I don't remember subscribing to your love life problems feed.
That's my opinion on how to grep files ending in .ac.
What about questions?
FFS, questions are not opinions.
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@ThePhD yes and yes
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11:41
oh, -r flag? not quite
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the list of directories taken is from the command line args (we're talking Linux here? not sure about windows ports otherwise - but I'll proceed)
Xeo
Xeo
Japanese can also be pretty nice.
taberu (to eat) + mono (word for tangible things) => tabemono (food)
nomu (to drink) + mono => nomimono (drinks)
wasureru (to forget) + mono => wasuremono (forgotten item)
otosu (to lose, let fall) + mono => otoshimono (lost property)
@R.MartinhoFernandes There is no chance of that nonsense compiling.
Xeo
Xeo
Just change to -i form and attach "mono"
It's not nonsense. It's an opinion.
11:43
@Xeo monodevelop?
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wooof - grep has too many options added recently. try -r --include='*.ac'
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Hm.
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I forgot how to compose things on Linux.
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Blerch.
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I think I need find, and then I need to pipe the files to sed...
user1646075
11:45
grep -r --include='*.ac' "PATTERN"
just worked for me
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no find, no sed.
@AlexM. I think it would have to be developmono for the japanese
I dunno
the only japanese words I know are hentai and onii-chan
Xeo
Xeo
kawaii?
the last is far more dangerous to google at work than the first
oh and kawaii yeah
Xeo
Xeo
11:47
subarashii!
YOU'RE RUINING MY JOKE
and "baka"
Xeo
Xeo
and pantsu
@AlexM. You also know "sushi", which means rice.
Xeo
Xeo
11:48
lol
Every other SO question now has 'I searched a lot but didn't got any specific answer', or 'I looked at websites but I don't understand it' :((
"pizza" is rice in Italian.
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@MartinJames why did we get rid of the close reason for "does not understand the question they are asking?"
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._.
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11:49
Anyone, uh
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Anyone have a Linux machine and want to try building this fontconfig bullshit?
@ThePhD $ emerge fontconfig. Done.
@ThePhD find . -name \*.txt -exec sed 's/thephd/baka/g' {} \;
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:(
"Rice" is haggis in Scottish Gaelic.
11:50
emerge sounds like you're invoking an ancient evil god
Rename yourself to ricebot.
@R.MartinhoFernandes you learned :P
@AlexM. That's exactly what it says.
@thecoshman Learned what?
@R.MartinhoFernandes not all Gaelic is the same
Xeo
Xeo
I also know "oshiri" - butt.
11:52
@thecoshman Yes, but that doesn't mean I won't use "Gaelic" to mean Gaeilge.
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._.
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THis si retarded.
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Fontconfig is retarded.
@R.MartinhoFernandes vOv do you use Germanic to mean Deutsch?
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I hate building things.
11:53
I guess I could have said '"Rice" is haggis in Scots', if it would make you feel better.
@thecoshman No, so what?
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If Cat does this for a living, he's completely justified in everything he does.
We've been over this.
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He could become a murderer and it'd be okay.
@R.MartinhoFernandes it's the same
11:54
@JBL Which is great, because it leaves ample room for optimization! — sehe 11 secs ago
derp derp derp
@Mgetz I'm pretty sure that SO is being frequently misused as an interface to search engines, either because OP's cannot be bothered to do their own searches when a free service is available from those suckers on SO, or to provide unique homework answers for copy/paste. I'm pretty fucking sick of it, and some on meta don't believe it. They should get a life.
No one refers to German as "Germanic".
"Germanic" is not ambiguous.
@R.MartinhoFernandes just because people do it doesn't mean it's not wrong.
Oh, remember I was on about (well, mentioned) the kids getting taught to say words wrong.
@thecoshman But because people don't do it means it is wrong.
It was 'chasm', being said as 'ch-asm' not 'kas-um'
11:57
@thecoshman Also, the fact that people do one, but no one does the other one does mean that it's not the same.
@MartinJames ah the penalties of doing what you're supposed to and making your content easily indexable
@ThePhD Sounds like PEBKAC.
@R.MartinhoFernandes I was about to counter that with personal opinion
@R.MartinhoFernandes :'( please don't let that be another 'thing' that cat does

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