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15:00
the real problem is that his embedded system is 20 years old.
if he upgraded to a modern version I think he could have a modern compiler.
the problem is not in the compiler
it's in everything surrounding the program
like CMSIS
well I suppose I'll just clench my teeth and learn a bit about all that
having a set-up IDE would be the easy way
heyyyyy merfucker
Salary: £To attract the best
that's super fucking helpful, dude.
@LightnessRacesinOrbit u drunk m8?
15:05
"Hi I'd like to buy your house please."
"Okay; make me an offer."
"What are the ingredients?"
"What? No, I mean, make an offer for the house."
"Oh, right. How about... £To attract the best."
"..."
etc
@Jefffrey #iwish
drunk on love for the lounge maybe???
You usually introduce yourself with a "mothefuckers" only when you are drunk.
Salary: Excellent package!
fuck it, if you're not specific enough then you get too many applications.
15:07
I find it easier to negotiate a salary if they don't advertise something specific at first
and really
if I could build drivers as static libraries...
Salary: £Excellent salary + training + benefits
you're willing to give someone $Nk
but then you find someone that is willing to do the job for $N-10k
15:08
Salary: Excellent Daily Rates
fuck it, maybe I should just start up "Shit job advertisers say" Twitter
if you'd have advertised $Nk you'd be having little chance getting the $N-10k guy
"Competitive Salary" is probably the best thing to write down on postings
any one will to show me how I can refactor 2 similar methods into 1 method?
yes
the guys at codereview SE
go there
tried that
tough luck then
15:11
stop talking to me please
7
@Puppy don't pay that much to the salary in postings, you'll be asked about your expectations at the first interview
and if all's fine afterwards, you'll negotiate the rate anyway
Puppy's rate: 1 million GBP please
I want some mcdonald's
brb
Salary: £0.00 p hour + negotiable
@heyya99 separate data from logic first
15:20
@Jefffrey can you elaborate please?
@heyya99 The Lamp class shouldn't know how to draw itself
@heyya99 No. That would entail talking to you.
@Jefffrey feedin the troll, dude
I'm hardcore like that
also why are you using a class in the first place
@Jefffrey so a lamp class and a render class?
what language is that?
15:21
can't you just use a namespace or something
it's troll language
when did you post it on CR? I can't see it on there
inb4 java or c#
java
ewwwwwwwwwwwwww
15:22
I'm a C++ dev trying to learn java
wha... why
GTFO
you come in here, The Lounge, and ask a Java question
Lounge<C++>
does it not ring any clues?
Notice the order: Lounge first, C++ second, Java never
but it's not language specific Q. It's a refactor Q and I wanted advice from devs
15:24
meh
who told you we are devs
smart*
most of us don't even know how to code
j**a? get the fuck out
jaja?
15:26
do C++ people hate java?
I don't hate java
Java hates me
is this a lost cause? I'd love your input.
std::cin
15:27
the self entitlement is strong with this one
yeah, but you're an arrogant shit and we don't want to give you our input unless you open your bank account
@heyya99 Around this neck of the woods, its definitely a lost cause
Java is a lost cause
3 mins ago, by heyya99
but if you aren't samrt enough to answer, it's ok. Nothing for you to be ashamed of (I would be though)
15:28
lol
christ it was a joke!
Christ isn't here
16 mins ago, by heyya99
stop talking to me please
I don't know why you involve him
is it not a friday brothers?
15:29
we're not your brothers
^ he's a cat
stop talking to me please - he was rude so I told him not to talk to me.
a friday brothers
we're not your brothers - how do you know?
;)
we didn't walk into someone else's chatroom, use it for a totally inappropriate purpose, be rude to people who point us to the correct place, then insult everybody.
15:29
aaaaaaand plonky plonk
so definitely not your bro
4 flags/4 stars
love it
ahh 5/4 now
why hate me?
we don't hate you
I'm nice.
15:30
we just think you're a bit of a twat
3
speak for yourself
lol
we just think you're a bit of a twat - back in your box
twat, troll, both.
this ignore feature is pretty handy
ten minutes ago
15:31
it's amusing that you people bitch and moan about flags, until somebody asks a programming question
except when people appear to be replying to themselves
then you just flag everything they say
bit old to be smoking out the window no?
certainly not a smoker
@heyya99 my office has a door which when opened gives me a nice view of a window which for two hours a day produce sunlight
thank you very much!
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too easy
next
This user has been automatically suspended for posting inappropriate content and cannot chat for 1 hour 28 minutes.
lol
repost
of the message like, 2 seconds before you :P
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ahahahah
@Puppy the entirety of the internet is a repost. Cry me a river, build a bridge and get over it.
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15:34
repost repost
:P
@TonyTheLion Building bridges is a lot of effort, and tears sufficient to form a river is certainly more than I can produce.
@Puppy Best response ever.
a wild literal puppy appears
le woof
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15:38
So I abandoned FF and Chrome because they're both annoying in their own ways, and I'm using I.E. of all things
eeek
speaking of which, I need to feed the woofmachine
@Puppy I can't imagine you ever crying about anything
oh he-who-does-not-give-a-single-fuck
I give plenty of fucks about plenty of things; it just seems not the things about which society in general seems to give way too many fucks.
15:45
any*
it's alright
you'll grow out of it
what, disagreeing with other people?
Xeo
Xeo
yay, home without any rain
\o/
hmm
TIL there's a British qualification called an NVQ.
I guess it'll be coming to mind for everyone that it stands for "Not Very Qualified"?
16:00
You've... never heard of the NVQ?
Seriously you're either 5 years old or you grew up in someone's cellar.
It leads to a staggering amount of ignorance and it's that which you will, hopefully, grow out of as you interact more and more with, y'know, other people.
Have you heard of A Levels? Did you know that yesterday was A Level results day?
(The binmen know that yesterday was A Level results day.)
this one is probably "cellar", I was certainly never offered any NVQ-anything when I was choosing my GCSEs.
No, neither was I....
Back to "it doesn't exist if Puppy hasn't had direct contact"
I don't recall stating that it doesn't exist.
Never claimed you did.
in fact I'm pretty sure that I just stated that it does exist.
16:03
But in your world it did not exist, in that you'd never heard of it.
Because you don't read, or something
I fail to see what impact it would have made on my life
Hi all, anyone know how to make 2D Billboard images to rotate with the camera angle in OpenGL & C++ ? I could use some help here: stackoverflow.com/questions/25321344/…
@Puppy You're failing to see that the impact it has on your life is totally irrelevant, which is the entire point.
@stevetronix Don't spam SO question links please.
@LightnessRacesinOrbit The careers and qualifications of others are the business of others, those designated to help them, and those in contact with them.
Speaking as a dirty American slob, I've not heard about NVQ or A-levels. What are they?
16:06
The most hilarious discussions are between Puppy and LRiO
@OmnipotentEntity Apparently, NVQ level 1-10 spans various professional vocations (so useful things instead of pointless wankery) from Level 1, which is for 14-year-olds, to Level 10, which would be post-graduate.
A-levels are academic qualifications you take between 16 and 18.
@TonyTheLion :D
@OmnipotentEntity A levels are the high school finals
you fat slob
NVQ just seems like an unfortunate acronym, you'd think from the description that NVQ level 10 would actually be quite qualified, but the mind (at least mine) readily expands NVQ to "Not Very Qualified".
My mind jumped to Nuns Vent Quinine.
anti-malarial drugs?
16:11
In my defense, I've been helping the girlfriend with her Step2 studying
now it's my turn to have no idea
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hmm, I signed up for this jobs website thing and I got emails from no less than five other companies that were never previously mentioned congratulating me on registering with them.
In the US it's the test that medical students take before applying for residency.
ah
medicine has a reputation for being rough on both sides of the pond
16:23
@Puppy it's "Now Very Qualified", for non-pessimists
16:33
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Well Dilbert's binman anyway.
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Also #19, even though I want it to be true.
#9 is called Word Lens.
It kind of works.
No way can that little flying machine carry a sixpack of beer:(
#20 is ancient technology
(Stirling Engines were conceived in 1816)
16:48
@LightnessRacesinOrbit On a hot day, there would be no temperature difference between top and bottom plates to run the fan, so making it a bit pointless.
#10 is the most important one
<3 /cc @Puppy
@MartinJames Yep.
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I was looking at that earlier. It was funny.
Smart glass that obscures the bathroom when you lock it
Because people are scared of naked other people.
How boring.
...
yeah I'd rather not have random clubbers watching me do a shit thanks
17:02
I took the most amazing shit last night.
@TonyTheLion From whom?
It wasn't from me, was it?
17:22
... I bought a cooking magazine
and received a free Always sanitary pad
:\
hah you could probably sue over that
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Q: Stack - Extra Parameter

Yashas SamagaWhat does the above code mean?The "std::vector" thing??Why is an additional template parameter there? std::stack<int,std::vector<int> > fourth (myvector); I just don't get what that vector is doing there :| Thanks

@LightnessRacesinOrbit I'm sure I could at least start a "that's sexist!" trend against the magazine
I was learning from that site itself when I got this doubt :P — Yashas Samaga 10 mins ago
@AlexM. It's not sexist at all. Any man who wants to wear a sanitary pad is entirely free to do so.
What does the above code mean?
above code
17:28
I want gifts tailored to men
a free beer should be bundled with any cooking magazine
@PolymorphicPotato It means: "The toolbar at the top of the window, above the code when you view it in the editor."
@AlexM. A woman.
I don't like gifts that run away from me
Bound women.
17:32
@AlexM. Run in the opposite direction.
@PolymorphicPotato To a client socket?
Bound to a tree.
17:48
@AlexM. That would discriminate against people with good taste.
@PolymorphicPotato They're not tailored. A tailor makes men's clothes. A seamstress makes women's clothes.
The best, angriest local newspaper letter you will read today: http://t.co/0qE7IwI6f7
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chan pub time tho
there's this... schedule on the pad's packaging
apparently there are 3 kinds of pads
for the day, for the day during weekends and for the night
how do women cope with all this complexity
sanitary pads need refactoring
fuck. I need to re-factor/optimize my code. Fucking shit this is going to be a long day.
why do people hate that
it's what I do for fun
@AlexM. I guess I should look at it in a possitive perspective.
18:04
I clean up messes and later on I try to see if I remember the messes I've cleaned
and not write them again
I like the way you think, sir.
BTW, using friends is a bad idea?
yes
always do friends::
to avoid name clashes
@Xeo one point in favor of Rewrite is the high quality software. Often VNs can be really crappy. (Maybe due to bad translation.)
I'm pretty scared about ebola
more scared than of the situation with ukraine
at least in the case of a war you see what kills you
hopefully there won't be a global outbreak anytime soon
In case of a Western outbreak we'd probably have medicines pretty quickly.
It seems that pharmaceutical companies are not interested in developing medicine for Africa.
18:10
I think a priest was brought to Spain and died of ebola there
because yeah no treatment
priests/Africans
"pharmaceutical companies are not interested in developing medicine for Africa."
why the hell not?
I don't remember exactly why, I assume it's about profitability.
I read an article about it a few months ago.
Xeo
Xeo
@StackedCrooked Play Grisaia. Or MLA
:D
@Xeo btw, where do you get the binaries? nyaa?
Xeo
Xeo
18:20
fuwanovel.org, I guess
ic
What is MLA short for?
Ell
Ell
@cyberspace009 not cost effective
My Little A-pony?
Ell
Ell
idk
I don't think the epidemic is big enough to cover the costs
Muv-luv alternative?
Xeo
Xeo
18:28
ya
1) You spend $$$million on developing a vaccine or treatment and will be forced to give it away for nothing.
2) It will be ineffective because the patients cannot read the instructions on the packets and cannot tell what time it is for treatment.
3) The treatment may be ineffective anyway because it cannot be kept within it's temperature tolerance range.
4) Some of the treated will die anyway, and you will be blamed for its ineffectiveness.
5) Those providing treatment will be shot for causing/spreading the disease.
(see full text)
Ell
Ell
@MartinJames Too right.
also hi @MartinJames
@MartinJames hmmm, I see your point.
@Xeo Just to be sure the order is: MuvLuv Extra, MuvLuv Unlimited, MuvLuv Alternative. Right?
Xeo
Xeo
Yeah
Muv Luv Extra contains Unlimited
Alternative is an extra game
18:32
@Ell Ello
Xeo
Xeo
you can't even play Unlimited before finishing the main routes in Extra
oic
Ah Fuwanovel has a nice troubleshooting guide.
This is helpful.
Ell
Ell
What can I ask people over the internet? Is there a guide for what is too personal? :P
I'm glad my VMWmare is still Windows XP. It seems to be compatible with most VNs.
Ell
Ell
Can I ask where someone works?
yeah that's fine right.
18:35
You can append "if I may ask?" to your question.
user3079266
@StackedCrooked the old system language issue with visual novels?
Dunno, I'm not installing yet.
But I've ran into various issues in the past.
Don't remember the details though.
user3079266
@StackedCrooked well, the japanese have a nasty tendency of giving in-game files japanese names in their alphabets, so you have to have japanese enabled on your computer to run most VNs
hm so it seems
we need to go deeper
we need to program in other languages
cat timp a > b executa:
    afiseaza(a)
    a++
user3079266
18:38
@AlexM. well, it's been done, there are many programming languages based on languages that are not English
user3079266
for example, here in Russia, the most known of these is called 1C
isn't 1C a russian game company (dev or publisher)
user3079266
yes, they also did some game publishing in the past, I believe
what did they work on, let's see
Konung I'm sure
yes they did publish at least konung 3
user3079266
but it's not a very profitable business. It took them months to get stuff localized and released, and by the time they made a release, everyone would be playing a fan-translated or untranslated pirated version
user3079266
18:41
their most notable product is their programming language. It looks like this:
user3079266
Процедура ОбработкаВнешнегоСобытия(Кто,Что,Зачем)
Если Кто="LRC_Modem" Тогда
Если Что="LRC_Modem" Тогда
Сообщить(Зачем);
КонецЕсли;
КонецЕсли;
КонецПроцедуры //ОбработкаВнешнегоСобытия
user3079266
it's basically auto-translated BASIC
it's like unary but instead of 0 you have vodka
user3079266
lol, sadly, it's a bit more prosaic :D
18:59
@Xeo while looking for other VNs I'm starting to miss this familiar screen.
Xeo
Xeo
I've had some serious withdrawal symptoms after finishing Rewrite :(
I want to watch anime but I'm too busy cleaning up code
turned a 114LOC duplicated loop mess into a 50LOC beauty
so fun
@AlexM. does it still work? :D
of course
Im fixing my entire project with these rewrites. Need more electro and coffee.
19:01
when I saw how complicated the conditionals by the original author were, I got a bit excited
because I thought it was time to use formal logic to simplify everything
buuut... I solved it in my head faster :\
@cyberspace009 arg don't mention rewrite
I still hope I'll get to use what I learned in the formal logic class for simplifying some conditions in my career
Xeo
Xeo
@StackedCrooked Immediately after finishing Rewrite, I had a huge urge to just play it again
@Xeo hehe, I kinda feel like that
but I probably wouldn't complete it
@Xeo Btw, I still think you should give Ever17 a try. Maybe the OP might help you convince. (I might have linked it before.)
Xeo
Xeo
I plan on playing it
especially since I got it legally :)
19:09
Right. I forgot :)
so
I don't need whole BSP driver
why does BSP driver contain of audio and accelerometer packages
nothing makes sense here :F
C+_+
had no idea a spider-man noir existed
looks damn cool
fuck me
john oliver is so fucking funny
19:40
clicking the settings button on each youtube video automatically enables translations
damnit mysticial :(
He works at YouTube?
I think he did, but now he's probably in another division from what I could deduce (?)
nah he's still there
You wanna work in my division? It's called "by zero".
I'm glad the volume gets saved between videos now
before it would get reset to some video-defined default (?)
so I'd have to constantly set it to max everytime I changed the video
@BartekBanachewicz What does :F mean? A smiley of a disintegrating face after exposure to acid?
19:47
probably a typo, D is right next to F.
that could be
or Zoidberg with an amputation
I farted
did you also smell it?
19:54
not especially

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