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@R.MartinhoFernandes you use a separate battery pack already anyway
why would you need a replaceable battery?
Accidentally plonked Bartek.
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@BartekBanachewicz It's more suitable for emergencies. Replacing an empty battery with a full one does not compare to having to wait till you get some usable charge first.
Not that I have a second battery for my S3, but I don't like to have my hands tied.
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Q: Critique: Any advice on the design of my resume?

JaySo I'm creating a resume for Engineering/Design/Computer Science internships, so I guess I am allowed to be a bit creative and less conservative here. I was working on this all day today, so it I am just going for a general look/feel for now. None of the little details like icon size and placemen...

Now MSVC is deleting random copy assignment ops.
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so tempted to flag
10:07
@BartekBanachewicz New hardware required?
@LightnessRacesinOrbit "Interests: (...) watching Steve Jobs and Nintendo keynotes (...)"
@R.MartinhoFernandes I was hoping you'd pick up on that
@R.MartinhoFernandes Mainly because I couldn't be fucked to type it out
@R.MartinhoFernandes use clang
Xeo
Xeo
FFS, please no Teen Drama again here.
@Abyx No exceptions.
10:09
@R.MartinhoFernandes so what? google coding style ftw
lol
@Borgleader Why the fuck would it?
OpenGL can't be that bad.
@LightnessRacesinOrbit So, this is the site where you go to have people comment on your graphic designs?
@R.MartinhoFernandes by new i meant recent, (i woke up literally 5 min ago), sometimes these new features are made available on drivers only for the newer architectures
or something idk -.-;
Sounds like an awesome Q&A site.
Hi Jay, welcome to GDSE and thanks for your question. Critique questions are a bit of an issue on this site, since they blur the line of our aim of questions with a 'correct' answer. Please review the guidelines for critique questions and update your question, or it might be put on hold. Don't let things like these intimidate you, we're aware that using GDSE can be a learning curve. We are happy to have you! Thanks again and enjoy the site. — Bakabaka 1 hour ago
@R.MartinhoFernandes These are the same people who've taken like 20 years to even get DSA into their spec...
> She rounds the corner walking kinda funny, and wearing weird clothes, like clothes a 12 year old girl would wear. (we're both 19) She gets in my car and she's kinda making a funny face. As she reached to hold my hand without saying hello, it hit me. This girl was retarded.
10:18
@Rapptz Im laughing so hard now and I have no idea why
@Rapptz That's just your girl! With your propensity for retarded things in life
@R.MartinhoFernandes I missed this apparently.
@LightnessRacesinOrbit reddit.com/r/all/gilded
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10:20
Does lambda calculus have anything to do with calculus?
Not really.
Let me see
No.
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10:21
So many different answers.
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I'm so confused.
stackoverflow.com/questions/24629180/loading-cpp-files-in-c <- and the horrible question of the day award goes tooooo
@rightfold Hint: they may not be answers. And you were already confused
A calculus is a method of calculation. "Calculus" is also short for "differential calculus".
user1804599
Ah, I see.
user1804599
10:22
Dankesch"on.
¬_¬ private final static String UNDERSCORE= "_";
why!?
user1804599
Rename it.
That can fit in a byte.
@rightfold ¬_¬ clearcase makes it too much efort
You never know when you'll need private final static String UNDERSCORE = "-";
10:23
@thecoshman You should only care about the how and when. Not the why.
user1804599
@thecoshman fail.
@Borgleader nope.
I wonder if implicit move generation broke assignment ops.
Gee.
bah
Intel offers ThinkPad Yoga as a new office laptop option now
... the only version being 4GB RAM (fixed and not upgradeable)
kinda fail
user1804599
inb4 AMD processor
10:28
meh, AMD is only present in low-end nowadays
user1804599
How about graphics?
Intel GPUs getting substantially better as of late didn't help it either
@rightfold Iris are pretty good, and Broadwell gen is going to be even better
> galeanthropy (uncountable). (rare) A mental condition of thinking that one has become a cat, usually manifest in the adoption of feline mannerisms and habits.
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and NVidia still wins for enthusiasts
I came in here only for this
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10:30
@TonyTheLion sexy as hell.
@TonyTheLion we've figured
mwuehehehehe
> fatal error C1076: compiler limit: internal heap limit reached
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
I'm really tempted to file "JUST REMOVE THE FUCKING HEAP LIMITS YOU CUNTFUCKS" as a bug.
@R.MartinhoFernandes ಠ_ಠ don't joke about such things
10:31
its wasted enough of your time already
So many people ask me whether I have a girlfriend or not and ever had one before. Should I just be cool and say "No" like a man or make up some stories and say "oh ye, had a girl I met for awhile......"
There. Is. No. Acceptable. Justification. For. Not. Using. So. Much. Fucking. RAM. When. It. Is. There. For. The. Taking.
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@EnglishMaster nobody gives a shit.
Who the fuck cares if compilation takes long if I have no RAM for it. Actually compiling >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not compiling.
I bet if I use /Zm to increase the limit it will, once again, ICE.
10:35
you can choose how the compiler will fail by using different options
that's a feature
O(actually_compiling + not_compiling ^ not_compiling) = O(actually_compiling)
while we're at it, I'll need a C++ environment soon
I can think of other ways to express "NOT COMPILING IS USELESS YOU FUCKBUCKETS".
what do I use?
@R.MartinhoFernandes Super brief question: how is the clang++ status regarding Wheels support? Can it compile the EnableIf<X>... SFINAE yet?
10:36
how is that C++ IDE from jetbrains coming?
@KonradRudolph Dunno. I haven't checked in a while.
’mkay, gonna do this now then
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@BartekBanachewicz lol C++ tools
I use clang at work, when not battling this piece of crap, but we always SFINAE in MSVC-friendly ways.
Scratch that. We don't. There's no such thing.
@rightfold seriously, no nothing?
I suppose I'll go with QTC
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10:38
@BartekBanachewicz dunno
user1804599
It will probably suck.
@BartekBanachewicz Use Visual Studio. You deserve it.
(Kidding)
@R.MartinhoFernandes "we don't want to starve the system or deny resources from other shit"
> JetBrains is working on a cross-platform C++ IDE supporting C, C++ (including C++11, libc++ and Boost) to help you create outstanding applications for any platform whether it is Windows, OS X or Linux.
WORK FASTER YOU SCRUBS
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Go work for them.
10:39
I could try NetBeans
It works pretty nice for java IME
and it's pretty clean and simple overall
I'll give it a try at home I suppose.
@thecoshman Yeah, the compiler needs those resources available for when it launches IE.
I just rebuilt and the heap limit was not reached and one of the four non-heap-overflow errors I had left is gone.
Oh wait. Talking too early. It's still building.
Ah. Five errors, but at least no heap overflows.
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I should give Opera a try.
> Hello i become a error from my compiler
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@ParkYoung-Bae lolwut
10:44
@rightfold Link
netbeans 8.0 claims GCC 4.3 :/
maybe I read that wrong
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@R.MartinhoFernandes lol
@R.MartinhoFernandes Hmm, it seems to ignore the EnableIf<>… directive completely?!
10:46
@rightfold It was really fucked up to get used to that.
@rightfold It was really fucked up to become used to that.
(I’ve tried using wheels::enums::to_underlying)
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> libass
@KonradRudolph I think it's Clang with a bug in ignoring substitution failures in packs in some circumstances.
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> PS: Json listing under is incomplete.
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10:48
LOL
@KonradRudolph What do you mean by "ignore"? It tries the overload anyway?
user1804599
What does Opera require Orc for :v
Then it's the same bug as always: it doesn't perform substitution if the pack is empty.
@R.MartinhoFernandes Yes. In my case, I tried calling wheels::enums::to_underlying with a non-enum type and got no substitution failure
grmpf
pity, I really want to use wheels, but have to use clang++
11:01
sounds like one of yours
oh, it is
You fucked it up with "my code did not compile"; they'll blame your code and ask for a demo project to find the fault in your code.
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11:24
Time to write base64 decoder
Or just google for one :3
there was a death in my family
what do you think about the positioning of my breadcrumbs?
a farther relative for me... but he left a flat I might inherit
11:33
you don't sound too upset about it
@Puppy I... didn't like the person particularly.
I was living with him very briefly when I weren't able to find a better accomodation though
His health condition was pretty terrible back then, so I am actually quite suprised that he made it that long. He lived a long, quite full life though.
in more fun news
ThinkPad Yoga has a free M.2 slot inside
and M.2 is such a nice thing, that you can hook up a 4G modem there :3
> Supported are multiple functions for add-in cards, including the following classes: Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, satellite navigation, near field communication (NFC), digital radio, Wireless Gigabit Alliance (WiGig), wireless WAN (WWAN), and solid-state drives (SSDs). Exposed buses are PCI Express 3.0, Serial ATA 3.0 and USB 3.0.
there are even combined LTE/GPS modules
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@Puppy I think their left edge should be the left edge of the tutorials
if that makes sense?
hm plenty of space inside
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@Puppy I think they should be like this i.imgur.com/z8nkufL.png
11:41
lmao
a website protecting an article with javascript
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I don't know why we don't have some standardised bytecode instead of a language
well I know why but it'd be nice wouldn't it? :P
@Ell LLVM IR, JVM bytecode, CIL?
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@Puppy I mean supported by browsers, used on the web
@Ell security
you really don't want a site downloading non-transparent bytecode onto your machine
Hey @ITReviewsdotcom; here's a Pro Tip™ for you: if you serve me the article, a JS scroll block and popup div won't prevent me from reading.
11:44
@Mgetz How is that different from downloading any kind of script
your move, suckers.
yes minified javascript sucks but it's a lot easier to reverse engineer than bytecode
@Ell Google pnacl is trying to bring LLVM IR to the browser.
not gonna happen
@Mgetz It's not really important.
11:45
LLVM IR is not a suitable web bytecode
I kinda disagree.
sure, you can do some questionable shit with memory operations, but people want faster websites, especially on mobile, and they can be optimized on-server.
@BartekBanachewicz it must be the latest hot thing in journalism
fucking noobs
the other major issue with bytecode is it limits innovation. With javascript I can just namespace it and it won't break the entire code, it will just explode. With bytecode any changes would break other browsers
@Mgetz It doesn't really matter if you define a suitable bytecode. Compiling to Javascript is not inherently less restrictive than compiling to bytecode.
11:48
woah
I found a pretty cool electronics shop
after all, you can compile javascript to bytecode.
I didn't know such hardware existed in the first place
I'm failing at implementing a concurrent stack on gpu ;_;
something like LLVM IR supports plenty in terms of source language semantics.
well okay 3.5" PCs were available already
actually they are p nice compared to this RPi shit
11:51
@Ell Bootstrap doesn't seem to want to produce that outcome.
@Puppy except MSVC function calling conventions, untill recently.
@rubenvb Not really needed for web client-side code.
I was responding to only your second-to-last message :-p
@Puppy yes but what if someone wants to innovate and change what the bytecode supports? now the entire file won't compile on any browser but theirs
11:53
I didn't know there exist industrial-grade USB hubs o.O
@BartekBanachewicz 50 and 100+ port hubs... sure
nah, 4 and 7 port
but isolated and whatnot
@Mgetz What makes you think that? A bytecode language can define conditional compilation/inclusion too if it wants to.
more generally, the server would probably send back a different bytecode file depending on the target browser.
@Mgetz same as with HTML extensions and pretty much any other language extension mechanism...
HTML has had extensions since, like, always, and stuff like OpenGL too.
gah why all those companies make usb modems
fuck those
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11:55
@BartekBanachewicz you gotta test usb devices somehow
OGL extensions are probably not a good role model.
And yeah, some browsers couldn't render stuff.
@Puppy ha of couse not :-p
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What's wrong with OGL extensions? o.O
except none of the extensions right now cause code to just fail to compile. Browser detection is a HORRIBLE idea as it means that only one or two browsers ever really get any love.
11:56
we've been down this road
it sucks
ha, I think I've found it!
MS used to do it with ASP.NET, until it broke on IE9
fuck wait
this is mini-pciE
god damn it
those are so cheap :O
LTE module for like $60
Xeo
Xeo
Hm, I have four nested std::maps. I feel like I'm doing something wrong.
and GPS module for whopping $15
11:59
@Xeo depends on what you're doing... I've had four levels of nested maps before because otherwise I would have had to iterate massively for each lookup
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Maps are awesome.
Xeo
Xeo
I have a triple of information (3 ids) that leads to some other information. Each id is either a real id or a placeholder that should apply for all ids. I want to index into that ... "table" with another triplet of real ids, to get to the other information.
(that other information is the fourth map)
@Mgetz Bytecode feature negotiation is not really rocket science
Also if you use too new JavaScript, you break browsers that don't support it, too
@CatPlusPlus clearly it is as java still doesn't support it.
@CatPlusPlus polyfills
Polyfills are stupid hacks
Also "innovation" should be standardised
12:06
HAHAHAHAHA
@Mgetz Non-sequitur
@CatPlusPlus the entire point of innovation is that it is breaking from convention and standards
Extensions are inherently incompatible with all other implementations
You can't have both
there's one modem officially supported by lenovo
and it obviously costs 3x the price of chinese modules
12:07
@Mgetz And then you get 10 platforms you have to support with a single codebase yeaaah it's great
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There is nothing wrong with polyfills.
@CatPlusPlus last I checked, nothing did that well. Even Java with its "write once, run everywhere" is bullshit
I like how everyone is talking about a different topic
Or is it just Bartek
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They only suck when they don't expose the exact same API or are implemented in a fragile manner (such as setInterval(..., 2) for Object.observe or crap like that).
Also bytecode needs far less features and can be far more generic than JS ever was
@rightfold :lol:
Why do I even bother idk
Gotta get some food
12:11
@CatPlusPlus it's also non-transparent, impossible to debug without source, and inevitably: proprietary and patented
It's not bound to retarded semantics of a shitty source language
Also what the fuck non-transparent mean
FFS
lenovo forums give me "request entity too large" when browsing
god
You can patent and proprietary JavaScript, too, it's a licensing thing not technology thing
@CatPlusPlus it means that I can't see what it's doing without a decompiler, which is against the law in many countries
@ParkYoung-Bae just me
12:12
So that's also bullshit
fucking shitty FCC
Also you can't really debug packed and minified JavaScript either, so that's also bullshit
Source maps exist for a reason
@CatPlusPlus have and done
I.e. you need debug information now anyway
12:13
Is CAS atomic enough to implement a reliable locking mechanism?
@Mgetz Which is really no different than debugging bytecode
the wifi card is hooked up to two different antennas
but they are for 2.4 and 5 Ghz
@Mgetz Also bullshit
@CatPlusPlus DMCA
I suppose you need a separate antenna for 900/1800 right
12:14
Urgh
I just
God
@CatPlusPlus I'm not disagreeing that bytecode has promise, I'm just pointing out that there are major issues that have to be addressed first.
All of those issues are present currently with JS
> it is not acceptable to use this forum in an attempt to broadly organize or incite members en mass, to cancel orders, return systems, undertake legal action or otherwise disrupt the normal business processes of Lenovo."
lol what a fuckers
@CatPlusPlus in some form yes, but with JS I don't have to wait for a standards committee to decide if it's going to be big or little endian because it doesn't matter: it's text
12:20
haha
China never ceases to amaze me
what you see is an gimmick that gets on top of mini-pcie wwan modem in hardware that doesn't have proper wwan antennas
javascript's greatest weakness is also it's greatest asset: it's just text.
That's... completely irrelevant to anythin
Hey did you know text also has endianness?????
@Mgetz what
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@ParkYoung-Bae lol locks
@CatPlusPlus that is an HTTP level issue though, not a javascript level issue
12:26
what
@Mgetz Just like it would be with bytecode #gasp #woah #incredible
@CatPlusPlus how so? do I have UTF-8 encoded bytecode?
:cripes:
utf-8 encoded bytecode
WHY DO YOU THINK TEXT IS MAGICAL
12:30
because :words:
I don't
No you know what I don't care w/e eot whatever
> No you know what? I don't care! w/e. eot. whatever.
punctuation damnit
heh polish people are nice sometimes
12:35
thank you
USA: go and complain how lenovo is shitty for not giving antennas/unlocked bios
Poland: unlock bios and solder/stick/hack antennas inside and give instructions for that
nice.
If everything goes well, I might add 3G to my pc for like $20
lol first course next year: Java and design patterns
yay
Hello C++ folks, how do you handle dependencies in your projects?
By crying and not developing on Windows
#include
12:41
Fuck C++ on Windows
Goddamn mess
hmmm
@Oleg Please be more vague; I almost understood your question.
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@Oleg we don't
can't have that
I'm developing a module in JavaScript and some guys want to embed it into a C++ project.
We have a Git repo, but no idea how to make it work correctly.
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@Oleg V8
@rightfold we already use chromium
Expose it as a Bower package
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Put the dependencies in a deps folder.
12:44
@CatPlusPlus We have an accessible internal repo already.
The C++ guys suggested I use a git subtree to add the code to the project.
But it's weird... I'd like it to be separate and not create meaningless merge commits.
In the web dev we use npm install and it works perfectly... don't you have something like that in C++?
No, C++ ecosystem is shit
Subtree is good
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Don't use C++!
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@Oleg We don't have that in c++
@rightfold is that one of those Hiiragi quotes?
rm -rf *.c++
12:48
:(
user1804599
wat is hiiragi
Hi Iragi!
@rightfold that thing on your avatar
@oleg I think the problem started when you decided to not use c++ exclusively
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12:49
OIC.
I think the subtree idea is fine, really
hmm
@ParkYoung-Bae but so many useless merge commits...
I've got exactly the same code, but Firefox for some reason, when navigating to a directory, now lists the directory instead of going to index.html
@BartekBanachewicz What for?
Oh, laptop?
12:51
Also, anyone can just commit to the local directory and all hell breaks loose.
@Oleg "So many"? You'd only merge stable stuff
@R.MartinhoFernandes for those very rare times when I'm out of wifi
@Puppy index.html is a server feature, not a browser feature
hmm
worked fine locally before.
@ParkYoung-Bae we merge 10 times a day...
12:51
Just open index.html directly
@BartekBanachewicz I use my phone as a wi-fi hotspot and get LTE :P
@Oleg Stable stuff 10 times a day?
@ParkYoung-Bae develop branch
It's a very stable project.
git log --no-merges
12:52
@R.MartinhoFernandes that's why it's not a must-have for me. I have a separate free 3G SIM so it could be nice to be able to keep using it (I have it in my iPad right now)
@Oleg Does the build of the C++ project break if you don't merge the JS one?
uh seriously, i5-4300U has more advanced features than i7-4500U
this is pretty dumb
@ParkYoung-Bae nope
@Oleg Then don't merge the subtree until it's required.
Robot have you played the new DF yet
12:55
@ParkYoung-Bae but the devs who do stuff in C++ code want to see the recent updates
What for, if they don't use it? Fffs C++ devs.
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Tell them they must be more patient.
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I wish there was a real 3D DF
@CatPlusPlus No.
There's a lot of DF-likes on the market right now
12:57
link
0.40!
He completed 6% in 2 years!
@CatPlusPlus Meh, I'm a fanboi.

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