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21:00
@rightfold Yeah, thats awesome. I was on a bilingual high school as well.
I'm surprised not mandarin
Apr 16 at 22:29, by rightfold
Dutch best language.
@sehe took the wrappers for a testdrive today, worked beautifully!
user1804599
Because Mandarin is not widely used outside of China.
user1804599
Whereas English is.
21:01
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I have to seriously imagine some 30-year old bastard in underpants sitting in front of his screen, eating his disgusting "roasted chicken" and type No into the lounge - over and over again
@JohanLarsson noize
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@sehe Yes, but it happens it’s not used by many people in the world.
user1804599
Best would be if everyone in the world would get taught Dutch, indeed.
@Arcoth No
:D
@Arcoth Wie wäre es mit "Spongebob Eckhos"? :)
21:02
X) Frankly, i don't understand it - this place is so fucked up, yet i have the unexplainable temptation to visit it all the time
@FredOverflow Eck-hos'? Hört sich an wie Echos! :D
pretty mild imo
I have a heavy amount of 0 votes questions and I got banned for posting new questions because of it. Most of these questions were on the topic of low-popularity APIs that never got answered. Who can I talk to as this is unfair
@BDillan Yell at your dog, he will understand
user1804599
lol, drinkable sausage
@BDillan You should talk to your supervisor.
Or call the suicide hotline.
21:04
@FredOverflow a.k.a. Microsoft Service Hotline
Like I said I got banned because most of my questions have 0 votes
Its like being arrested for loitering too much in public
(insert better analogy)
-11
Q: Store 00 as a value?

BDillanGiven integer N. How can I store the value N for N * 0s. e.g. N = 2 = 00 char [] seq = new char [1]; seq[0] = (char) (0 * N); System.out.println(seq[0]); // If N is 5 should print 00000

Or maybe because of this one.
That was my evil twin account
And many others that are deleted now.
user1804599
21:06
@Jefffrey fail.
@BDillan Sure it was.
@BDillan I don't think that's how it works. You get question banned for posting a lot of question with many downvotes and not improving them
@BDillan Then your evil twin account just got banned.
Not improving them?
Who will have the patience to revisit them?
Once they're improved
holy cris SO is down
21:08
woah, I can't read that dude's profile
Fuck, SO is down.
seems so
oh, it's the whole site
good job devs
Oh, that prolly explains why there's no onebox
it was the super bad question that got it down
21:08
When I get angry I DDOS
3
:lol:
I like how their system is super resilient and robust
jking (I dont want to get arrested)
You can delete all the questions and wait 30 days
That's a good joke
21:08
@BDillan :)
@BDillan Actually, the last two successful DDOS attacks on the site were from disgruntled SO users who got banned.
@BDillan at least this time not for loitering
@Mysticial ooofff. We should probably get a mechanism in place that upvotes anything posted by members who have , , tag badges
So I guess...create a new account?
See, here is the problem
@BDillan no workey. Seriously, [Meta.SO] isn't down. Read it! meta.stackexchange.com/a/86998/159703
21:10
@BDillan No. Definitely not.
the answer EXPLICITLY states that new account doesn't work
@BDillan No. They'll catch you and you'll be in even deeper trouble.
you don't read mang
@crasic Hint. He hasn't read it
which is why you are having issues
21:10
I like how some of you guys downvoted my questions just now AND encouraged me to basically gtfo from this site
just like, think about someone besides yourself for 20 seconds and just take a breather
calm down
read the stuff
@BDillan Um, nobody downvoted you. The site's not even running right now. Calm down.
its not hard
I am calm sorry I swear when typing Im a teenager
I like this guy
21:11
@BDillan You're a teenager? Jeez, this place is gonna eat your childhood up with a nice Chianti
@BDillan To be honest, when they implemented the question ban, it's purpose was to pseudo-permanently ban problematic users. They just don't say that because it's bad for PR.
@Arcoth He didn't say that...
@BDillan I apologize for that behaviour. But seriously, read the stuff, and ask yourself what you expect from us. We're just community members, we have no special powers, and even if we did, some of us would be inclined to use it counter to your interest for wasting our time ... :|
My question posted here just got 2 downvotes
And they use IPs and other methods to go after those who create new accounts.
21:12
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Dude... are ya frickin' stupid? Read the post right above your "i like this guy"
@LightnessRacesinOrbit No, he stated he swears when he types "Im a teenager" :)
@Arcoth He said he types like a teenager. Learn to read fuckwad
I apologize
@Arcoth You may want to calm down a bit. Your efforts are being appreciated, but you have to understand some people love to derail things. It's just more fun if you go mad about it
what question? the site is down for maintenance
21:13
Wut!? Nonsense! Let me get this straight: He writes
I am calm sorry I swear when typing Im a teenager
user1804599
system of a down for maintenance.
@Mysticial and use ISPs and other methods to go after those who create new accounts
emergency resuscitation*
defibrillation
And you say that he meant "he swears when he types "Im a teenager""
21:14
@Arcoth no...
@Arcoth that was my lame joke
He's not a teenager. When he writes on the internet, he sounds like one.
Basic English comprehension, for fuck's sake.
1 min ago, by sehe
@Arcoth You may want to calm down a bit. Your efforts are being appreciated, but you have to understand some people love to derail things. It's just more fun if you go mad about it
who is this Fuck? you swear allegiance to him often
2
Well we go way back
21:15
if (auto dyn_cast = dynamic_cast<const AST::DynamicCast*>(e)) {
    // YO DAWG
}
@DeadMG lovely
Site is back
repost
Right, your -12 question probably hasn't helped you.
-3, -3, -2, -2
21:16
@BDillan Yep. A new account that is created at the same or similar IP as an account that is banned will notify moderators. And if they determine that it's the same person trying to get around the ban, they'll either delete the new account, or merge it into the old one.
This has nothing to do with an obscure API.
@Mysticial so use TOR? :)
ah, you're a troll
-16
Q: Can the Mods reset the Vote Count for good questions that received an unnecessary judgement?

BDillanI asked a serious well formatted, no duplicated, and delicate question and maybe because some users had their leg bitten by their dog subsequently while looking at my answer they decided to downvote it. This makes the site look unprofessional and opinion based.

@BDillan don't be a retard
You guys are purposely making fun of me now
Im not the immature one here
we are, and you are.
21:17
Oh just go away idiot
@BDillan Yes. I won't be surprised if TOR nodes are severely throttled or outright banned already. It's abused by too many people to get around question bans.
you can tell because you can't use apostrophes
user1804599
OP is inubaka.
user3010322
TOR?
quality question this:
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Q: How can I assign data type values by using loops?

user3330589So we all know that if you make the statement int x = 1; that x of int type is equal to 1. I was wondering if it is possible to be able to extract values from a list of type string, and then assign them a data type of string.. Tough to imagine but look at the code void directory_list(list<st...

21:20
@ThePhD No UB, move along
I feel bad for him a little because it's very well formatted and written and such, which is unusual
But it still makes no sense
user3010322
Oh.
user3010322
Well if there's no ub isn't not interesting.~
Oh. That's a first.
I don't get what is going on
user1804599
21:21
I am going to sleep.
@ThePhD You could always try implementing a compiler. Then everything is UB.
The very nature of StackOverflow's structure has it such that only those who answer simple questions of the most popular programming languages will get a reward. Format doesnt mean shit
user3010322
I should write my own compiler someday.
I think he literally wants to get enumerate over a list of strings and assign each one of them a token
21:22
like string1, string2, string3
@crasic you must be new here
maybe
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Q: generating variable names on fly in python

Curious2learnIs there a way I can generate variable names in python in a loop and assign values to them? For example, if I have prices = [5, 12, 45] I want price1 = 5 price2 = 12 price3 = 45 Can I do this in a loop or something instead of manually assigning price1 = prices[0], price2 = prices[1] etc. T...

except in c++
@BDillan what reward? Internet points?
If your employer looks at your stack account I'm sure they car eless about the vote and more about the quality of the content you post
potential employer
IT'S NOT CALLED "STACK"
I wasn't hating on the site, I was answering why that question got 0 votes
i dont care
user3010322
21:25
Fuck Shit Stack.
and I'm refering to so+stackexchange
Lightning are you a misanthropist?
user1804599
Stack Overflow is shorter to type than “stack.”
user1804599
So if you’re lazy, be lazy correctly.
seso
21:25
@BDillan no I just don't like you
Ok then ignore me then
I'm worse than stack, I'm StackedCrooked.
user1804599
And I’m going to sleep.
Anyway moderators cannot lift the ban. So when DeadMG told me to fix my old posts, in what way will the system recognize that I took effort in improving myself?
21:27
You can also, answer questions maybe
when the vote count goes up
user1804599
Stop deteriorating the vibe in this room and get out.
its like literally in the post linked on your ban screen
you still haven't read it!
do you not see the issue here
post linked on ban screen?
Sorry, we are no longer accepting questions from this account. See the Help Center to learn more.
The help center
says what I said above
fix your posts
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A: What can I do when getting "We are no longer accepting questions/answers from this account"?

ArjanWhy am I getting this message? As stated in the about links on every page, Stack Exchange is a network of question and answer sites, not help forums. This implies that all posts are expected to have some value for later visitors too. To enforce that, and to prevent help vampires making the answe...

21:31
ooh i like that wording
glad to see that somewhere semi-official
why was something flagged from 21 minutes ago? Let it go man!
/me sneaks back out.
hmm
@Loktar worst of all, if you look at the context it was just a rather funny joke.
I luled.
if you perform a derived-to-base conversion on a null derived pointer, is the result base pointer also null?
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yes, it is.
21:39
eh, I don't think it's duh, the Standard uses different behaviour for other members
what
what the fuck else result did you expect?
and what "members"?
user3010322
;~;
user3010322
make fiiiilllessss
@DeadMG you used to be smart
nah, I simply gained perspective and from some perspectives it's not an apparently obvious thing at all
21:46
-3
Q: Writing spy software

Jovo KrnetaSo I am interested in writing a desktop based spy software , something like a friendly spyware . When I looked up the normal resources on the net there is not a single book about it , may it be in c++ , java or any other programming language , it is as it is forbidden to talk about on the net . T...

perfect
Bah YT is acting up. No video works on first request, I have to reload before it plays
inb4 you blame me.
You won't fix it anyway :v
@DeadMG now, stay dumb please
21:48
@Mysticial Why wouldn't we blame you? It's your fault!
Also there's weird delay in player expansion
@Mysticial You know you are guilty.
Nuked cache and nope still shit
@DeadMG ?!?!?!?!?! What sort of "perspectives" can make you wonder what magical value a null pointer can take on when you downcast it?
@CatPlusPlus WFM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit pointer offsets etc
21:49
@StackedCrooked pointer offsets from NULL? pull the other one...
yeah, very good
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Is exactly what happens when you try to access a non-base member of a class pointer that is null. struct x { int a, b; } int main() { x* p = nullptr; int* not_null = &x->b; }, for example.
[C++11: 5.2.9/11]: [..] The null pointer value (4.10) is converted to the null pointer value of the destination type. [..]
@DeadMG How is that the same thing whatsoever?
@CatPlusPlus pointers are like indexes into memory
21:51
I'm merely confirming that in C++, accessing base members has different semantics to non-base members.
o.O
It doesn't
And stop with this "non-base member" shit
@LightnessRacesinOrbit huh?
@StackedCrooked huh?
what's the problem?
it's a silly phrase is the problem
if it's not in the base then which part of the heirarchy is it in?
21:52
@LightnessRacesinOrbit the "decltype(*this)" class if you want
use precise terminology not willy-wally moddlecrap
@StackedCrooked are all bases banned? or the basest base?
Maybe restarting Firefox AGAIN will help ugh
@CatPlusPlus Maybe exchanging your life for a new one?
-29
A: Disambiguation/rename of [swift] tag

Isaiah TaylorAplswift is a good one I think. Remember that this is SEO related, so the tag we choose should be something that it is easy to search. Aplswift is logical and short. We have the opportunity to set this right here... Aplswift is only a day old. What we do here could be the search term for years, ...

Foxes can only burn for so long.
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I'd buy that
21:54
@CatPlusPlus Reminds me of Robocop
youtube.com/watch?v=42tFVOXG7Dg (slightly less irritating)
wait apple is using swift
I am way out of the loop
I have been in embedded land for the last year
The OCSP server experienced an internal error.
and now it turns out that all that objective-c crap I learned for the fucking app part is useless
22:01
HEH
I guess that's why
linking to a review on amazon !?
i doubt that's a good entry
you know you're playing a good game when chests talk to you like this (NSFW): youtube.com/watch?v=2iOQ_eHvtac
we should sincerely enforce reviews to be from accu or some other generally accepted experts site
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I dunno whats happening, but when i get into the lounge i get excessively aggresive, rude and stop considering facts - very mysterious
It's quiet here tonight
22:03
Is GCC 4.9 officially out yet actually?
@JohannesSchaub-litb fixed
@Arcoth Has been for some time
Because Arch doesn't seem to have it as the default one yet.
So what is a full stack developer anyway
And Arch is bleeding edge.
22:04
"bleeding edge"
@crasic Someone who does front-end and back-end. So they like oral but also take it up the rear.
Arch is often bleeding, yes
I ran it for a year in college
@Arcoth You're talking about Arch Linux?
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Yup.
22:05
system upgrades made for a good drinking game
At least fucking use gentoo
Just pacman -Suy and it still has GCC 4.8.2
That's AUR
Oh, wait!
Yeah, now its GCC 4.9
Jesus whats the point of arch then
22:05
Should've updated the package
I say
New GCC versions is one of those places where Portage slots are really useful
what
IS EVERYBODY SPEAKING IN TONGUES
Because you do not want newly released GCC as primary system compiler
22:07
@CatPlusPlus Why?
The newest one is stable.
debian/ubuntu have had setup-alternatives for ages
Like, not an alpha or sth, is it?
Because they usually don't get 'stable' until one or two bugfix releases in
@crasic That's not really the same thing
setup-alternatives is for metapackage stuff, i.e. providing a thing via different alternative packages
@CatPlusPlus GCC 4.9 has already been out since 6 months or more. Do people only now start testing it?
I don't trust .0 GCC releases
22:08
@CatPlusPlus Comprehensible. :)
well I'm building shit on debian, when I want to switch compilers I just call setup-alternatives and bam gcc4.9 is my system cc
or 4.6
or avr-gcc
or whatever the fuck
You know you can just call the GCC you want, if you have multiple installed side-by-side
yeah of course
@CatPlusPlus What? It has been frozen for like months. It's stable.
but I'm dealing with really shitty makefiles I don't want to touch
22:09
@CatPlusPlus Yeah, its gcc for the default system compiler and gcc-4.9 for the newest one for instance, isn't it
easier to just symlink
@LightnessRacesinOrbit They have a bad track record :v
@CatPlusPlus so does your mum
I've used Gentoo for a long time, you notice things like that when the compiler is used to literally build the entire system you're running
I remember it being pretty good
just slow to get things running
22:11
It might be feature frozen, but that doesn't make it battle tested
but that may be because I ran it on a pentium m 1.6ghz laptop
But hey do whatever you want
Gentoo/Funtoo are still the best distributions if only because Portage is hands down the best package manager for Linux
it is pretty damn good
I remember being frustrated with dealing with apt when I switched back
yum is ...
well yu,
yum
You don't appreciate things like USE, slots, overlays or masking until you start using something shitty like dpkg
yeah, its all nice when things are in apt
but 3d party debs are really shitty
really fucking shitty
22:14
Ubuntu's universe is worse than AUR
Which is an accomplishment
just really old
which is ok for most things
but not dev-tools
so then you go hunting for ppa's
At least AUR packages are easier to fix
or upgrade distros which is retarded
anywho, I need to dive before carpool starts
Rolling release fo life
Esp that Gentoo makes it pretty easy to lock things into specific versions
Arch not so much
Fuck Arch
Ugh
I need to finish Puppetising loungecpp dot net, nuke Ubuntu, and then install ESXi and finally start using Gentoo again :toot:
Well, are you done yet?
22:28
@CatPlusPlus I usually don' try to install Gentoo, but when i do, i fail miserably
The boss in the forum uses Gentoo - old school
@Measis Because \b is already an escape in the C and C++ languages en.cppreference.com/w/cpp/language/escapesehe 1 min ago
regexen strike again
user3010322
Dun dun dunnn.
user3010322
Pizza in bed.
user3010322
Optimization is the root of all fun.
22:32
\a\a\a\a\a\a
22:44
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Q: This code running DOS commands from C++ program doesn't work

user3677169I implemented this program in C++ in Microsoft Visual Studio 2010: #include "stdafx.h" #include<dos.h> #include <iostream> #include <conio.h> #include <windows.h> void main() { int choose; printf("Choose what do you want to test:\n 1. Processor info\n 2. Memory info\n 3. Disk info\n 4. D...

This is amazing
system("C:\>wmic path Win32_WinSAT get D3DScore");
Evening
In fact, I just found the bug. I created a pull-request to fix with a proposed fix (and a heads-up message) — sehe 2 mins ago
Woot. Swatted a real-life bug in Boost Spirit for once
@LightnessRacesinOrbit This year germany will win the football world championchip
I have the feeling in the guts
@LightnessRacesinOrbit wow
Boost bug
we all can dream
I usually work under the assumption that I suck and the libraries are fine, I bet it was satisfying to spot
Mmm. I'm not sure it fixes the whole bug yet :|
23:30
What do you guys think about Dutch Elm Disease? Tens of millions of trees in the US and Europe have been killed in the past few decades by Dutch Elm Disease, the silent killer. The public has been kept in the dark about this.
The Dutch should be declared war over this
by that you mean there was a giant public hoohah over here in real countries about our government's lack of response to the disease
I don't remember seeing anything in the news about this
Remove C:\> everywhere and try again – deviantfan 1 hour ago
Thank you very much! – rares992 58 mins ago
that's because you're either a moron, or more likely, failing to notice that the people you're chatting with aren't American.
23:33
That's great...
First time I check out an SO chat, intending to lurk, and immediately greeted with a declaration of war to my country. That escalated quickly.
@Aberrant Which country?
The Netherlands
Oh. Aha. A few of us are Dutch here. So yeah, we occasionally declare war on each other.
hehehe. MOAR DUTCH.
We really are a pest.
23:36
I think I don't like dutch.
inb4 dutch phrase
I guess I'll probably slide back into lurking now to see how this place works~.
@Jefffrey Ik weet het wel zeker
:D
The number of dutch here really surprises me.
Yeah. Blabla internet penetration something something
@AaronKyleKilleen There's been advice against planting any of the trees (e.g., American Elm) that are subject to Dutch Elm Disease for decades. You may not have paid any attention, but that's quite different from anybody being kept in the dark.
Xeo
Xeo
23:40
whee
@Mysticial ...but I think we have more Belgians, so much of the "Dutch" here is really Flemish.
I do like the phrasing implying that you're Dutch though... :-)
@JerryCoffin Oh hai, long time since I seen you :)
@Borgleader Hello. Yeah, been pretty busy.
@JerryCoffin I can think of two belgians (3 if you count the lion). I think we have 5 or six dutch

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