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12:02 AM
 
I had my best dota match ever :D
I was the unsung hero who sacrificed himself so that the main guy got epic stuff to turn the game in our favor
well I did receive thanks so it was not all that unsung
 
@chris yay using namespace std;
 
@Jefffrey I didn't even notice. I was too lost in the rest of it.
The way my comment is so randomly written with unrelated sentences strung together represents the chaos of the OP's code.
 
@chris gets is no longer c?
 
@crasic As of C11
And as of C++14
 
Xeo
12:08 AM
wheee
 
passing of an era
 
Xeo
hello from berlin
 
I believe the term "embarrassing" was used in that C++14 proposal.
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Like if C doesn't even want it, why on earth does C++ have it?
 
lol
 
You may find the answer in the antepenultimate word of your question.
 
12:11 AM
@Xeo You made it. Congratulations on surviving the European train network:)
 
As long as getc is still there I'm happy
 
Xeo
eh, 4h in the same train vOv
which meant basically 4h of Japanese
 
@Xeo OK:) Not so bad.
 
Xeo
right, time to sleep I guess
my lil brother will probably kick me awake in 5h
 
FFFUUUUUUU
I installed VS2013 yesterday
And today I learn the CTP is out
 
Xeo
12:15 AM
hehehehe
 
posted on June 04, 2014 by Adam Welch (MSFT)

In Update 2 for Visual Studio 2013, memory diagnostic tools were added for Windows Store and Windows Phone that enable developers to monitor live memory consumption and take heap snapshots of their applications for further analysis. The Visual Studio...(read more)

 
Xeo
g'night o/
 
Wow
That was expertly timed.
 
Xeo
how fitting
 
user3010322
The CTP can't install next to ANY version
 
user3010322
12:16 AM
Of VS.
 
user3010322
So... don't bother.
 
user3010322
Also, G'night Xeo.
 
user3010322
Also also, anyone know how to tell GDB to skip over std:: functions when doing stepping?
 
@ThePhD what the fuck, really?
 
user3010322
Yes.
 
user3010322
12:17 AM
You'll have to wait for VS 2014 Beta.
 
user3010322
As I was saying, jumping into every std::move, std::forward, and std::ref argument is really retarded.
 
user3010322
Can I make GDB ignore a certain class of functions, or a certain namespace of functions?
 
user3010322
Oh, goodie.
 
user3010322
There's skip, but you have to list every single function you want to ignore manually.
 
user3010322
Great job, GDB.
 
user3010322
12:21 AM
Glad you're on this side of the century with, I dunno, some basic wildcard matching.
 
user3010322
... Oh, but wait, the stdlib part of your foray didn't have regex until just now. I doubt you'd be able to have it without having a license conniption. :)
 
Just read the docs.
 
user3010322
I am reading the docs of skip [function/file] linespec
 
user3010322
Being told I need to list every std:: function or find every header/source in my stdlib is... bananas.
 
I just ls + echo it into a script.
Or maybe it's find.
How do you do that in VS btw? I've wanted to do that some weeks ago and couldn't find it.
 
user3010322
12:33 AM
Through some retarded registry key, but it uses semi-regex as its exclusion syntax.
 
Registry key o_O
Also, hello from Germany again.
I found another reason to dislike Google Maps.
It doesn't know cycling on the highway is a fucking dumb idea.
 
user3010322
Lol
 
user3010322
What, did it get away with just giving you that generic warning "This road may not be safe as cycling directions are still in beta" or whatever?
 
there's this forum that's full of normal people
after 00:00 I'm the only guy loitering around there
 
It just sent me to the highway.
 
12:36 AM
makes me feel weird
 
I think it only checks if its no-nonmotorized vehicles
 
at ~7 AM everyone wakes up and posts "Morning! The coffee is ready!" in the offtopic thread
 
Also, hurt my other ankle.
@crasic no, it doesn't check that because that's exactly what highways are.
It doesn't fuck all.
 
Never had it send me on an interstate
 
Just "take the E55 like a dumbass".
I'll probably stop ranting about how bad GM is soon because I'm uninstalling it.
 
12:40 AM
Its designed for american definitions
 
To be honest, the always online bullshit is enough to not want it.
 
user3010322
I turned off the always online part.
 
user3010322
.... And then it stripped me of all my previous locations, since they had saved them in Web History
 
user3010322
rather than just, you know, on my phone locally.
 
Er, it pretty much doesn't work at all without web.
 
user3010322
12:41 AM
The only way to keep a place remembered is to favorite it.
 
The app is just a shim over web services that do all the work.
 
user3010322
It doesn't do much even when I tell it to "save this area on my phone locally."
 
That pretty much defines google's entire app platform
 
Can't even reroute without web, even though it can show you the fancy map.
 
Because it doesn't actually compute a route
Best fit based on mining data from millions of people going about their lives
 
12:42 AM
What?
 
Google location services is running on pretty much every android phone and nobody is aware
 
I have no idea how that matters.
 
it doesnt
 
Because you can't offload the cloud onto your phone
 
That makes no sense.
 
12:43 AM
their routes are tied into their database
 
I travelled for 400km with offline navigation.
 
user3010322
Hm.
 
user3010322
QtCreator supports python scripts.
 
And I got lost and rerouted without web.
 
user3010322
Maybe I can somehow convince it to lead me to the MinGW folder in the python script
 
user3010322
12:44 AM
and then before running gdb, dropping the "skip" thing on it like a bomb.
 
That's how every single navigator worked before Google Maps came along.
 
Yes
I'm not disagreeing with you
I'm sayign what google does
from the ground floor
HQ is about 20 minutes down the road
It doesn't just do a minimization problem
 
it does a minimization problem based on seed data from millions of people going about their days
And their rout3e computation is tied into that data intrinsically
 
Yeah, right.
 
12:47 AM
Ever heard of the fitbit?
 
I'm pretty sure they have millions of people going through Nowhereville in the middle of the woods.
 
same idea
no of course not
 
bahahah, this is the evilest thing I've seen in a while: i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/8210051072/hA4F417EC
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So how does any of what you said matter?
 
they still have sane calculated defaults for unpopular routes
 
12:48 AM
@AlexM. :lol:
 
Google doesn't let you do offline because they don't want you to
 
You could have started with that.
 
He's one of "those" isn't he =/
 
but the point is that routes aren't computed statically through a basic graph problem
 
No.
Point is that a poor route is better than none. A navigation app that can't get you out of lost is crap.
 
12:51 AM
Agreed
 
(A navigation app that gets you into lost is worse; it happened too)
 
400
Q: What is a smart pointer and when should I use one?

Alex ReynoldsWhat is a smart pointer and when should I use one?

 
That being said, I like their maps and their imagery
 
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Q: Which kind of pointer do I use when?

sbiOk, so the last time I wrote C++ for a living, std::auto_ptr was all the std lib had available, and boost::shared_ptr was all the rage. I never really looked into the other smart pointer types boost provided. I understand that C++11 now provides some of the types boost came up with, but not all o...

 
but I've never used navigation
 
12:52 AM
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Q: Pointers, smart pointers or shared pointers?

tunnuzI am programming with normal pointers, but I have heard about libraries like Boost that implement smart pointers. I have also seen that in Ogre3D rendering engine there is a deep use of shared pointers. What exactly is the difference between the three, and should I stick on using just a type of ...

Why do we have 3 posts covering the same ground there?
2 are even c++-faq...
 
@crasic navigation is what I use the most. This past week I had the chance to do some decent testing and compare with alternatives, and I'm not altogether impressed.
I'm picking the slightly uglier-looking maps that don't get me lost.
 
user3010322
@Deduplicator The questions and answers cover different ground, as far as I can read it.
 
tomtomgo
 
user3010322
Also, really? Going back to 2009 to find questions to close/dupe?
 
user3010322
Is this really the best use of your time?
 
12:56 AM
Only because all three were proposed as close-target for the same question
 
I like to solve optimization problem myself, but that might just be a CA thing, everyone has their opinions on the best road to take wherever
 
@Deduplicator SO is full of duplicate questions, don't bother.
 
Two other things I wish I could do but can't with Google Maps are: 2) set waypoints; and 3) more route options like "avoid unpaved roads".
 
user3010322
Ugh. I'll figure out GDB's wonky syntax later...
 
4) pick routes with only right turns would be nice too but it's only a cherry on top thing.
(For a bike it's not really right turns but more like turns that don't involve crossing)
Having this option built in to the routing algorithm would be really nice.
 
1:03 AM
Yes indeed
but really, not what maps is sold as
for now at least
 
More like for never, since they prefer to remove features.
 
romanians have great talent at building bridges, as can be seen
 
Anyway, enough of that. I had to vent a bit after spending two hours cycling through the middle of Nowhere, Rostock after midnight.
 
Did the unconference happen yet?
 
in 2 days?
 
1:07 AM
No. Most people arrive tomorrow.
Me included.
 
Arent you already there? o.o
i thought it was happening where you lived
 
robot is in the woods @ moment
 
I spent the day in Denmark!
 
@Borgleader you have not been around a lot lately, have you?
 
no i havent
 
1:11 AM
yesterday, by user782220
Swift > C++
 
@Borgleader I spent the week cycling from Berlin to Denmark. I'm going back by train tomorrow.
Time to rest now. Good night.
 
zup gangstaz.
 
still smoking
wtf, it's 3:20 already
 
let's eat some potatoes
 
1:46 AM
@Jefffrey almost 5AM here
doing assignments like anything that's not a boss
 
would 32 bit eclipse run on 64 window 7?
 
why wouldn't it?
 
yes
 
well it would walk, considering how slow it is :P
 
real question is why use eclipse in the first place
 
1:57 AM
it's free & it worked for what I wanted to do so far so ...
 
I personally like IntelliJ IDEA better
 
@JerryCoffin are you available? (as in online, active at the current time)
 
Oo ... I am running 64 bits eclipse on 64 bits window 7 - almost forgot
 
that should work as well
 
2:23 AM
Every answer I read tells me the google plugin not showing up in eclipse because eclipse is 32 bits. Nope, my eclipse is 64 bits and google plugin is still not showing up on eclipse ...
 
lol
Maximum Poe's Law.
 
auschwitz prisoners were already vegan
afaik their rations never had any animal originating food in them
hitler was thinking about the animals' well being
if only we could turn back time... more pigs would be alive today
^ awesome logic
 
2:38 AM
If there were more vegans today, there would be less pigs today - because less demand for pigs so less pigs would be kept
 
and chickens
10 billion chickens produced in the us each year
if nobody ate chickens it would be chicken genocide
as opposed to just murder
 
imagine this group of pigs that decide they've had enough and escape the farms only to become feral again, forming their own society
and in N years taking over the world while looking like this
and basically recreating the human history after killing all of us
 
user3010322
3:18 AM
ggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg GDB TOO STRONK
 
user3010322
 
user3010322
So
 
user3010322
IN order to skip a function
 
user3010322
I need to specify all of it
 
user3010322
along with its template functions. I am not allowed to specify header files to skip function templates in.
 
user3010322
3:20 AM
gg no re
 
sbi
3:30 AM
Hi.
 
you are up at weird hour
 
sbi
@chmod711telkitty Pressure.
 
from what?
 
sbi
I am preparing today's seminar material.
 
sbi
3:32 AM
I fell into bed like a log last night around 9pm, slept until 3m, and have been working since.
I feel the level of knowledge my seminar participants were supposed have was greatly exaggerated. I have been struggling to provide additional information since day one.
Usually at night. Sigh.
Anyway, I just wanted to quickly drop in to ask: Is this really a dupe of that? I don't think so. What do you guys say?
Ok, I am back to working. See you!
 
@sbi Nope.
I left a comment.
 
@sbi No worries. We have an army here who can unilaterally reopen it.
 
4:04 AM
needs more jpeg
 
user3010322
Just looks like bad aliasing, realy.
 
apparently I broke youtube
 
user3010322
4:46 AM
Mmm. No indent guides for QtCreator.
 
user3010322
Oh well.
 
didn't know it's not showing up until I got on my laptop
 
5:02 AM
hi Guys
 
user3010322
5:12 AM
Guys, hi
 
5:46 AM
hey Guy
 
6:58 AM
lol @ the time grouping
 
user3010322
Moorning.
 
user3010322
Not much.
 
user3010322
Fighting with makefiles.
 
7:03 AM
oh I'm fighting with NuGet
and I'm having coffee, because I'm barely awake
 
@ThePhD :v
 
user3010322
Don't
 
user3010322
don't you look at me like that!
 
user3010322
Yes, I'm disappointed with GDB come oooon.
 
what's giving you trouble
 
user3010322
7:08 AM
Just, uh.
 
user3010322
Iterating over multiple source directories
 
user3010322
and generating unique OBJ file names.
 
I just replicate the src tree and append an .o to the entire file name
so src/bla/whatever.cpp -> build/src/bla/whatever.cpp.o
 
user3010322
NOT GOOD ENOUGH.
 
user3010322
src/bla/whatever.cpp -> obj/bla/whatever.o
 
7:11 AM
why? :c
 
user3010322
Also MAKEFIIILLEESS.
 
what if you have whatever.cpp, whatever.c and whatever.cc :v
 
user3010322
whatever.opp, whatever.o, whatever.oo. :3c
 
if you just append .o, you don't have to worry about unique file names since the files in src already need to be uniqe
IOW, not your problem :v
 
user3010322
7:14 AM
What happens fi you have a source file included from some outside directory?
 
unless you're on windows and have an absolute path, no problem :v
 
user3010322
Like C:\Tig\Bitties\Come\Inside\doom\meow.cpp ?!
 
strip ':' -> build/C\crap\meow.cpp.o :3
 
Why don't you look at how existing compilers do it?
 
existing compilers put the object files where ever you tell them to :p
also, he's not writing a compiler :P (are you?)
 
7:18 AM
I don't know he seems to be having yet another XY problem
 
hm...tangents in splines...absolute or relative to the control point's position?
 
user3010322
>.>
 
user3010322
Of course not.
 
My programs are producing some truly strange results
for some reason if I don't create an array, it doesn't matter what type, size, name or where it is in the function my program doesn't work properly
 
@ThePhD just put them in the same relative directory as the source files relative to their makefile.
 
7:27 AM
or to put it another way if I delete this thing or comment it out it breaks my program, but I can change the name, type, size and I can declare it at the beginning or the end of the function and it works fine
 
@AaronKyleKilleen ou have undefined behavior and you should feel bad about it.
 
the program displays two textured cubes in 3d space and you can translate with wasd keys and rotate the camera by dragging the mouse, the way it breaks my program is it makes it impossible to rotate the camera horizontally
 
@AaronKyleKilleen Also:
May 25 at 9:48, by sbi
Welcome to the Lounge. Please read these rules first.
 
user1804599
@sehe doe normaal man, flapdrol.
 
I just had a thought: what if we rewrite the Lounge rules to include a bunch of C++ terminology that people then have to look up to understand what it means.
Example: asking C++ questions in the Lounge is [undefined behavior](link to SO question on undefined/unspecified/...)
Or is that taking things too far?
 
@rightfold the time grouping
 
user1804599
@sehe Ja. Het is niet normaal om een tijdmachine te hebben.
 
@rubenvb I think it will attract the wrong kind of people. Also, there's no actual threshold. So it becomes the gimmick
@rightfold They called me "DOC" o.O
 
user1804599
No, they tell the government that.
 
user1804599
I want a computer based on fluidics.
 
7:40 AM
> The XtreemFS project is developed by Zuse Institute Berlin. The development of the project is funded by the European Commission since 2006 under Grant Agreements No. FP6-033576, FP7-ICT-257438, and FP7-318521, as well as the German projects MoSGrid, FFMK, and "First We Take Berlin".
 
-8
Q: Could there be an "obviously competent" concept, clickable by hr users?

Joe BlowAstonishingly, it appears to be difficult to understand the following post. Summary, A HIGH REP USER, would be able to click something to give starter points (say, 200) to obviously highly competent brand-new users. (Obviously, this could only be done once.) Couldn't be simpler. There is no d...

obviously competent
Hi william, sorry I don't have time for word games or humour. I believe what you're trying to express is: "I feel it's not possible to 'obviously' tell who is a expert user." It's extremely easy for me, and anyone I have knowledge of, to easily and instantly tell who is an expert user. Social-linguistic clues include expert handling of terms, fast and detailed explanations of points struggled with by others in the conversation, and so on. It's so, well, obvious, that humans are good at this that I wouldn't have time to debate it with you, cheers. — Joe Blow 51 secs ago
#toplel
 
Hello, how's Denmark?
 
It was nice. I am back in Rostock now, and am taking the train in the afternoon.
 
Oh, short stay
 
7:55 AM
Yeah. If I had four more days, I'd get to Copenhagen, but I have to take thecosh in.
 
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A: Could there be an "obviously competent" concept, clickable by hr users?

rubenvbIf the professional user cannot quickly make it past the rep barricades, he/she must not be as professional as you make him/her out to be. One good answer does not prove he/she is capable of handling the higher-rep privileges in a decent manner. This is something acquired by experiencing the site...

I got an upvote on meta!
Time to celebate!
 
Next time I'm taking the train back here and then continue on bicycle.
 
@Joe there are no civilians reading Meta posts. It's all politicians and morality knights here. — rubenvb 22 secs ago
 
This Joe Blow is either incredibly dumb and obnoxious or I'm missing something
 
user3010322
Well, let's be fair.
 
user3010322
7:57 AM
His name is Joe Blow.
 
@WilliamAndrewMontgomery You must be missing something, and you surely don't understand his post, because you disagree with him.
 
That must be it
Thanks for actually providing an answer. TBC I would imagine you'd need (say) 20k? to perform such an action. Regarding your pointlessly snarky attempt at humour in the penultimate paragraph, it adds utterly nothing to your argument. An example ("Joe does not understand something I do about this site") does not make good argument. — Joe Blow 1 min ago
 
I don't want to give 200 rep to any noob
If they can't earn it, they ain't worth it
 
"but you don't understand!"
 
I'm sure I don't. :P
 
user3010322
8:01 AM
I'm not even trying.
 
user3010322
Literally, not trying. And I hit 300.
 
user3010322
You have to truly be doing something wrong not to make it this far.
 
I know
I mean, I was literally a noob when I started on SO, and I made it
 
user3010322
Sexy Noob Club (SNC).
 
8:03 AM
@TonyTheLion lol
 
literally a noob
 
Xeo
Noobs.
 
I'm going to have a +10 answer on Meta :-o
 
user1804599
How can you see your VPS' specs in Linode Manager?
 
Where has Meta rep gone anyways?
 
user1804599
8:10 AM
> This Linode has pending upgrades:
 
user1804599
> vCPUs go from 8 vCPUs → 2 vCPUs
 
I thought they counted it separately?
 
user1804599
lolwot
 
I rely on the rain to wash my car too
 
8:11 AM
@rubenvb I think that changed when they made the SE meta and then had a separate SO only meta
 
You can tell how long it has not rained from the dirt on my car ...
 
@TonyTheLion ah. Too much meta.
dammit. I thought I was getting rep for this.
I wasted my time on Joe Blow.
Can anyone migrate that to meta?
:-P
 
Don't waste your time on Joe blow
 
What a moron
And he's 3.9k
Unbelievable
 
@WilliamAndrewMontgomery Hey, you used to be a butterfly. And then changed to some do-nothing English guy.
 
8:14 AM
The butterfly is coming back
It's easier to troll people with a pretty girl face
2
 
yea I remember
 
Or I'll be Tino The Tiger for one month
 
hm
hard bag or a backpack?
 
user3010322
Back of the pack.
 
8:30 AM
@WilliamAndrewMontgomery Yeah, indeed. I would think so as well.
 
user1804599
> Password is too simple. It must contain at least two of these four character classes: lower case letters - upper case letters - numbers - punctuation
 
btw I totally forgot
 
user1804599
Fuck you Linode that's my own fucking business.
 
I TURNED IN THE CRYPTO ASSIGNMENT FUCK YEAH cc @sehe
 
Shit I should have checked out
 
8:46 AM
Ok, I agree as well with all of you: having both in your post, the specific answer and the possible improvements is surely the best option. So let's all be friends :-D — davidhigh 1 min ago
of course I'm right
 
8:57 AM
OKAY
ROGER THAT
 
Yesterday I almost decided to learn D. Then I learned it was garbage collected.
Is there really no RAII capable alternative for C++?
 
@BartekBanachewicz Thats coupled to Visual Studio, right?
 

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