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@BenjaminGruenbaum Troll/pisstake, obviously.
I don't feel very comfy knowing about just one language aside from my native one
@MartinJames That's a joke, obviously...
@BenjaminGruenbaum I didn't open it.
I could try german... maybe I'll even remember stuff from the two years of forced courses I took
I know English and Glaswegian.
00:01
I have a manual for Japanese but from what I've seen it would take ages for me to familiarize myself with the N alphabets and fluently say "you are such a bakaaa~~"
I know Italian, English and Glasgow.
I know Romanian and English
<- noob
I've also studied... what, 6 years of French
I could easily pick it up again and learn it
french girls are sexy
French is made for talking dirty.
@AlexM. I was not sensibly allowed to take German - the clashes with Maths/Physics/Chem/Bio could not be resolved.
there's a single french girl that I legitimately find to be sexy
Alizée Jacotey (; born 21 August 1984), known professionally as Alizée, is a French recording artist and dancer. She was born and raised in Ajaccio, Corsica. She was discovered by Mylène Farmer, following her winning performance in the talent show, Graines de Star, in 1999. While collaborating with Mylène Farmer and Laurent Boutonnat, she followed it with a series of albums that attained immense popularity by pushing the boundaries of lyrical content in mainstream popular music and imagery in her music videos, which became a fixture on NRJ, Europe 1, MTV, Virgin, and many others. Throu...
she has some moves
00:04
@AlexM. OK, hot.
just look at her
top comment puts it best
> The sexiest G rated video ever!
@AlexM. Yeah, I could do that.
I just got a boner
oops
yeah she has that effect while dancing
a singer from Romania has a similar effect on me but because of the voice
I had no idea voices could cause boners before
or maybe the song was just hot
Again, I could do that. Hair style not so good, probably to dehottify herself in front of audience. It's not working for me.
00:10
semi-long hair or whatever it's called is the hottest hair ever
:1684324 I would totally do her. No problem,
also lol at dehottifying
she's so hot she has to nerf herself
I love emma stone's voice. Fucking love it.
@AlexM. Yeah - realistically, not gonna work:)
okay, so, I've been playing RPGs for 12 years now and today I had a sudden realization
"silencing" stops spellcasting because the spellcasters can't make any sounds (i.e. use verbal commands to cast spells)
this occurred while playing dota against a character called "silencer"
I felt dumb lol
00:16
Functional programming enters mainstream C++. http://t.co/K3MAWMHSW4
@AlexM. Hitting them in the throat sometimes works. If it doesn't kill them, they cannot cast.
Nice award.
@Jefffrey Functional programming enters mainstream C++, if only it was deliverable.
Anyway, pissed, so bed.
@MartinJames lol
yeah, I'll go to bed too
tomorrow's going to be a joyous weekend day at work... and this time I can't leave because I smell barbecues
4
Q: extending temporary's lifetime though rvalue data member

Ryan HainingI've found the following scheme to extend a temporaries lifetime works. (I don't know if it should, but it does). struct S { std::vector<int>&& vec; }; int main() { S s1{std::vector<int>(5)}; // construct with temporary std::cout << s1.vec[0] << '\n'; // fine, temporary is alive ...

I found it surprising that such a question didn't have an answer already, so I wrote one, but now I'm afraid it's too fucking long
as always
00:50
@Jefffrey she sounds like olivia dunham
Another sexy beast :P
user3010322
WTF
user3010322
Clang hasn't implemented transparent operators yet?!
@BenjaminGruenbaum what the heck
@DemCodeLines what?
01:02
you didn't mute me, but you disabled me from talking in JS room
@FilipRoséen-refp -- "A temporary bound to a reference member in a constructor's ctor-initializer (12.6.2) persists until the constructor exits." I think that exception is for cases such as:

class Obj {
public:

Obj() : X(42) {}

const int &X;

}; // Obj

where the lifetime of the temporary isn't extended further than the constructor call even though it's directly bound.
@mpark should I add that to the answer, or what are you saying?
@mpark now I see what you are saying, post edited to instead hilight "A temporary bound to a reference parameter in a function call (5.2.2) persists until the completion of the full-expression containing the call."
01:18
Ah hey.
This lego movie was actually pretty good.
Compile time or runtime is fine. I need to create a new programming language as C++ is inadequate for my needs. – user3613229 20 mins ago
"... C++ is inadequate for my needs." LOL LOL LOL
@40two You know you can post a link to the comment and the chat engine will automatically embed it, right?
And you get the link back to the comment for free.
@Jefffrey No I don't
I'll try
Like, right now. :)
Compile time or runtime is fine. I need to create a new programming language as C++ is inadequate for my needs. — user3613229 24 mins ago
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:P
01:36
int*  n00 = nullptr;
int*  const  n01 = nullptr;
int const*  n02 = nullptr;
int const*  const n03 = nullptr;
wtf is that
an example
of horrible code?
how?
variables with numbers in them scare me =/
Well, they need to have different types so an array is not exactly the best idea for that example. :)
01:41
the example should initialize the const ones reasonably
Yeah, that's totally relevant in light of the question.
@Jefffrey I looked at the question now...
user3010322
Wow
user3010322
G++ and Clang didn't implement transparent operators
user3010322
Fuck those two libraries.
01:53
what?
both did you nub
user3010322
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Q: Transparent Operator Functors

GravityWellVisual Studio 2013 Preview supports a C++14 feature called (according to this page) "Transparent Operator Functors". I'm not clear on what that means. The nearest C++14 proposal I found is this, but I'm not sure if it's the same thing: http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2012/n3421...

it's in GCC 4.9.0 and Clang 3.4
user3010322
Then coliru's being a meanieface?
Coliru has GCC 4.8
which has an older version of libstdc++
user3010322
01:54
Well, fuck.
user3010322
What about clang, though?
Clang on Coliru uses libstdc++
user3010322
:|
user3010322
Stacked, plz.
@ThePhD Look at who answered that BTW
user3010322
01:57
Yeah, yeah.
user3010322
I saw. I SAW.
user3010322
Can you #include other things on coliru?
define "other things"
@ThePhD your type is named Range1 yet a string is passed there? (line 49)
A string has a range
begin and end.
@ThePhD yes
...
Look at your file.
user3010322
I don't know what's going on
user3010322
but clang freaks out
your file has declarations
no definitions
what do you expect to happen?
user3010322
02:06
Because it's already declared?
@ThePhD Where's it that you define those functions?
@ThePhD how's this
oops, ItemType should be IterType
works on clang... am I missing something?
user3010322
@Rapptz Oh.
user3010322
02:18
I'm an idiot.
user3010322
@Jefffrey Definitely an idiot.
user3010322
Here we go.
user3010322
@StackedCrooked Hey. Is there a way I can rename a file on coliru so I can find it easier later?
user3010322
But I want to find it glooobally.
02:22
I was answering the "include other things" question
user3010322
02:38
@ThePhD what the what is that?
We are aware of intermittent issues with the Stack Exchange blog network and are looking into them now.
user3010322
02:57
@FilipRoséen-refp A comparison function.
@ThePhD it looks a little.. over-complicated?
user3010322
Looks just right to me. :D
@ThePhD as long as it compiles..
 
1 hour later…
there was no selfie back in the 70's & 80's ... and yes I am a 49 years old & 215 pounds, black, umemployed single woman living in a refugee camp
Or not
@LightnessRacesinOrbit is this you when you were a baby?
@chmod711telkitty it is not
looks awfully like you though ... you might have managed to lose a bit weight, but you know the whole shape thing is still there ...
04:27
no tsure what I installed but this computer is no longer fast enough to stream video
oddly it was about the time I installed Visual Studio 10, though I can't imagine why that would slow the computer. coincidence I'm sure.
user3010322
Hey
user3010322
Does anyone here know how to do conditional variables and such in ninja?
user3010322
Or am I SOL and I need to use a meta build system?
yes
user3010322
Well, titties.
04:32
conditional variables?
user3010322
Apparently don't exist in ninja's build syntax?
nope
oh, ninja is a thing, and unrelated to metamagic. gotcha
user3010322
@Rapptz No segfault using MinGW with GCC.
user3010322
... But ti segfaults when I use debug.
04:36
isn't that a good thing?
get a fucking backtrace and stfu
<3
user3010322
Don't know how to use GDB.
user3010322
So kind fo flailing about. ;~;
are you serious?
lounge licence revoked gtfo
I never learned GDB either. I learned on VS debugger, saw GDBs command line nonsense, and installed netbeans/eclipse
I learned GDB a few days weeks ago.
I used to be like you guys but now I like it
it's pretty good
user3010322
04:40
I can at least create multiple targets
user3010322
for a ninja file,r ight?
hi
anyone iOS developer
No.
I'm in the directory @ThePhD
don't think so
user3010322
@Rapptz In the directory?
04:41
yeah your current working directory
You're in @ThePhD's current working directory? Creepy....
indeed
I think ld is frozen
gdb is pretty bad without -tui :(
damn you windows
user3010322
04:56
I don't...
user3010322
I don't know what QtCreator is doing.
user3010322
It has the source files, I'm compiling with -g, I have GDB set as the debugger
user3010322
It's not hitting any breakpoints. It doesn't even look like its doing the right thing.
are you debugging the tests file?
don't do that if you are
user3010322
testsd
user3010322
05:01
(debug version of test)
don't do that
it's riddled with macros and other nonsense for the test suite
make another file and debug that instead
user3010322
?
user3010322
Okay...
user3010322
So when I try to step over a line,
user3010322
GDB freezes.
user3010322
05:07
Great debugging experience.
user3010322
What's with this thing recompiling everytime I ask it to run...
@LightnessRacesinOrbit why are you here @ this hour?
didn't go to the pub on a Friday night?
user3010322
I.. can't really move around the location of these windows either...
user3010322
Or at least, the usual drag/drop isn't working..
user3010322
Oh well. Positioning isn't everything I guess.
user3010322
05:19
What
user3010322
What the bloody fuck
user3010322
<optimized out typedef>
user3010322
.... It's displaying that for the VALUE OF THE VARIABLE
user3010322
AWESOME GDB THUMBSUP.
user3010322
I'M GLAD YOU CAN TELL A TYPEDEF FROM A VARIABLE.
user3010322
05:31
Well, finally figured out the segfault.
user3010322
Two-phase lookup is excluding a function that's being defined later.
user3010322
Hoo. Rah.
05:58
my fingers were too quick - I kept on missing the debug points to step into
06:09
mawnin
06:48
hai
07:08
hi
07:33
Hi
sbi
sbi
07:48
lo
(SCNR)
This is the way to disallow copying in C++11, right?
my_class(const my_class&)            = delete;
my_class& operator=(const my_class&) = delete;
(I know that there's boost::noncopyable. It's not part of the language, though.)
yes
sbi
sbi
Thanks. Unfortunately, I cannot use C++11 yet, so it's all hearsay.
you could also provide the move operations with = default or manually
it'll implicitly delete the copy
sbi
sbi
Ah, yes, I learned that yesterday.
But this is at the very beginning of my slides, and I don't want to spill too many beans at that moment.
Xeo
Xeo
08:09
Morning
08:24
1
Q: How is the following passage from the standard to be interpreted?

Brian§3.3.6/1 (C++11) The declarative region of a namespace-definition is its namespace-body. The potential scope denoted by an original-namespace-name is the concatenation of the declarative regions established by each of the namespace-definitions in the same declarative region with that orig...

I didn't misunderstand the question, did I?
Xeo
Xeo
Nope, your answer looks good
@Xeo wicked, thanks.
When should the tag be applied? as a rule, is it anytime a standard quotation is required to answer the question?
Xeo
Xeo
When the asker really wants to know what the standard says, exactly.
Is what I think, anyways
yeah, I've been using the same "definition", but sometimes it seems the asker wants a standard quotation, without even knowing it
08:43
Which of these topics is likely to be relevant in the future?

- Artificial Intelligence
- Human-Computer Interaction
- Object-Oriented Programming
- Operating Systems
- Compilers
- Networking
- Databases
- Graphics
- Automata and Complexity Theory
- Logic and Automated Reasoning
- Algorithms
@Fool porn. porn is always relevant.
Xeo
Xeo
Wait a second, lemme get my crystal orb...
Thanks, I'll try to find a class on that
You're gonna try to find a class on porn?
lol
hoy
@Mysticial well, one could study "popular culture" and just focus on porn.. it might not be a "class on porn", but it's close enough.
Damn, just missed @sbi again
sbi
sbi
@R.MartinhoFernandes Nope.
What are you working on?
sbi
sbi
08:49
My seminar.
I am in a funny situation. I am sitting at my table, working away at my computer, and around me a herd of strangers are packing my apartment.
(And did I ever mention simplynoise.com is just great?!)
I'm sitting in the middle of the woods.
Birds > simplynoise
sbi
sbi
The thing is, I do not want to hear what's happening around me. Hence brown noise.
Where're you're cycling to, anyway?
Denmark. If I get there by the 4th.
sbi
sbi
@R.MartinhoFernandes Ah, you're using that Berlin-Kopenhagen bike path?
sbi
sbi
08:52
@R.MartinhoFernandes With friends, presumably?
Just myself.
What's your seminar about?
sbi
sbi
@R.MartinhoFernandes Wow. And here I thought the robot goes social. :)
One of my best friends (I think you've met Ronald) has been cycling on that path a few times.
@R.MartinhoFernandes C++ in an embedded environment.
Today is a bit weird. The next town with more than three houses is not too far (45km) but the one after is way too far from here (over 100km) so today I'll rest more than usual.
sbi
sbi
@R.MartinhoFernandes Why is 100km too far? Are you going on against wind?
I'm very athletic, as you certainly know.
sbi
sbi
08:59
@R.MartinhoFernandes Haha. I even look athletic.
Er, no.
Unless you're thinking of hammer throw
:P
sbi
sbi
Discus throw?
I remember that when I was in my mid-20s, my girlfriend and I made a 120km trip in one day. She was pretty exhausted after that.
So was I, but I didn't admit it. :)
Where are you now, exactly, @R.Martinho?
Just outside of Fürstenberg.
According to the GPS I'm very close to the state border.
sbi
sbi
@R.MartinhoFernandes Oh. You got very far, indeed! :)
Not sure if serious or mocking.
sbi
sbi
09:02
You should lock the bike, rent a kayak, and explore the area on water. It's wonderful there!
And are you staying on camp grounds with a tent? Youth hostels? Hotels?
100km is pretty far
o.o
Nah, didn't bring a tent. I'm doing a mix of hostels + couchsurfing.
sbi
sbi
Couchsurfing? In Brandenburg and Mecklenburg? I didn't think you'd find hosts there!
Anyway, I do need to get back to work. Maybe I'll have an hour to chat tonight. It's unlikely, though. :(
Xeo
Xeo
Have fun
At night I'm usually running out of battery.
Speaking of which, the Internets do use some considerable amount.
Later.
sbi
sbi
09:06
@R.MartinhoFernandes I gave my son a battery with a solar charger for Eastern. He's planning on using this when we make our bike tour in July/August.
Bye!
morning
Xeo
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes Get an external battery
Old lady at church prayed for someone to fix her computer. Wife volunteered me. I'm LITERALLY the answer to someones prayers.
@sbi Good day!
@fahdijbeli Thats UB
@fahdijbeli You "want to search on Stack Overflow"
09:09
In other words, it could print you anything, the standard does not guarantee anything.
@Arcoth Please... obviously it is. But this question gets asked 7.3x a week on the main site. And "i want to know" isn't exactly the nice way to say hello to new friends
426
Q: Undefined Behavior and Sequence Points

Prasoon SauravWhat are "Sequence Points"? What is the relation between Undefined Behaviour and Sequence Points? I often use funny and convoluted expressions like a[++i] = i;, to make myself feel better. Why should I stop using them? If you've read this, be sure to visit the follow-up question Undefined Beha...

2 messages moved to bin
I know :) I was mildly objecting to someone answering that in the first place.
sure, I'm known for posting wall-of-texts as answers, but this one.. THIS ONE; honestly, it's hideous.
334
A: Where and why do I have to put the "template" and "typename" keywords?

Johannes Schaub - litbIntroduction: This answer tries to focus on the basic aspects in current C++03 of dependent names, as well as the typename and template disambiguation keywords. Other aspects should be handled in another answer or another FAQ entry. In order to parse a C++ program, you need to know for certain...

@Arcoth By the way, nice to meet you! That answer being correct is a good sign :)
Welcome to the lounge
Im not new to the lounge :)
Well, not that new, i found it a week ago or so, nice place
@FilipRoséen-refp :16848818 It's not a wall, it's just taking some time to explain. Yes, maybe that's more for a book than an SO post, but tastes differ. It's very structured, so it doesn't qualify as "wall"
09:13
Press Release: Somebody called this a "nice place".
@Arcoth did you just call Lounge<C++> a "nice place"? you obviously haven't been here long enough.
@Arcoth Hehehe. Compared to the mastodonts that roam this place, you haven't been born yet :)
@Arcoth @sehe thankx :)
@sehe it's not structured enough, at least not in my opinion.
@FilipRoséen-refp Yes, i do know how it usually is around here. Still, a few competent programmers are here and it is nice to discuss with them.
09:15
@Mysticial Obviously drunk already.
The lounge is a nice place. It's only the myths that think that the Garden Of Eden hath no troubles (like, sunburn, rash from lying idly in the wrong crops, birds singing before you had your morning coffee, etc.)
it's ok guys i have arrived
@sehe it's mostly the way it's written that is bugging me, it's not exactly a light read (even though it could be)
@DeadMG Arrived... in the Lounge?
@FilipRoséen-refp Mmm. Then - just don't vote. Many people think it was very helpful
09:16
yes.
I awoke and I'm here to kick new guy ass
@DeadMG Ah.. OK:)
Wut
Arcoth you miserable shit
I totally agree that the Lounge is a nice place.
that's why I keep coming back
@sehe I'm honestly thinking about writing an answer myself. I'll have a smoke and think about it
keep up the good work
09:17
@DeadMG Oh come on. If you're that bored, just go fap somewhere else
@DeadMG I thought for a moment that you might be on some marathon trek like robot, but you have more sense:)
lol
@DeadMG Shut up, idiot.
no, I merely slept in a little
@FilipRoséen-refp If you can make it lightweight and not gloss over specifics (I can trust you for that part :):):)) then you already have my vote!
09:18
@sehe are you saying I'm glossing over specifics?
@Arcoth In style. +0 for being politically correct (puppy-style)
@DeadMG Oh, I'm all for that, but delivery guy turned up early and dog went off, so I got up.
@FilipRoséen-refp hehehe
not sure if I should take that as an insult, or a compliment, but since I like to annoy @DeadMG I'll take it as the latter.
Xeo
Xeo
@MartinJames I'm hoping the delivery guy turns up here soon-ish
09:20
positive, and happy, participants in Lounge<C++>? hell no, that ain't right.
quiet you
@Xeo He's bringing your raPi cluster?
@Xeo Does your delivery have a tracking site?
@sehe I'll get back to you, I'm quite confident I could pull something decent together
Xeo
Xeo
@sehe Nah, stuff to fix my bike
09:20
for a minute I read that as "your rapey cluster".
and I was like, "Wat?".
Xeo
Xeo
and a new xbox 360 controller
@Xeo Exactly, thats what you ordered a few days ago after forgetting about it.
Xeo
Xeo
@MartinJames ye, and it should be here within the next hour
@DeadMG that was on purpose. I know how to compose a good verbal Rorschach
@Xeo Okey... I need stuff b4 unconference, I'll look around today. To start with, my moneybelt-thingy is too small for my Note.
09:23
Wrong. Your note is too big for your wearables
@sehe It least I have some chance of carrying it around. Seems like everyone else at the club has a tablet, but I've resisted getting one 'cos big phone, plenty computers at home and too big for pockets/belts, so waste of cash for me.
> "at the club"
@sehe It's getting annoying that the bar top is so full of portable electronics that there's not much room left for beer glasses.
Just ban the devices. Simple. That's not what bars are for
@sehe Hmm.. 'No electronic equipment on bar'. That could fly. 'Risk of damage from dripping beer is not covered by our insurance', maybe.
09:31
@FredOverflow I find you incredibly cute ... if you were a 16 yo girl :x
std, y u no let me work with sockets :/ All I wanted to do is write the entire content of a stream to a socket, y u make me work :(
@BenjaminGruenbaum ?? TCP sockets are streams, so wots the problem?
@MartinJames C really, C is the problem :(
@BenjaminGruenbaum Ah... OK:(
good unmorning
09:34
LO
Site down?
nvm. Intermittent.
@Mysticial Not here..
My AR timed out for two refreshes.
@BenjaminGruenbaum boost asio
Yeah yeah, I know that. Thanks though.
I'm actually quite fond of asio
09:43
hmm
@BenjaminGruenbaum <puzzled/>
09:58
America, land of the f... http://t.co/OLQ9GhA16U
@BenjaminGruenbaum urrrfff

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