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11:00 AM
@FredOverflow that reminds me how I was told by a friend of mine that another my friend of ours were stalking our (my undergrad, their PHD) thesis supervisor who also were their boss at one stage
 
@chmod711telkitty Stalking? Oppposite sexes?
 
@JohanLarsson :)
@FredOverflow Let's not start the "stalking" chatter again!
 
@FredOverflow the other two were guy friends, so is my thesis supervisor ... that's why the whole story is a bit ... ~_~
 
I could never imagine stalking another man.
The only man I stalk is @rightfold ;)
 
every time you guys talk about stalkers all I can think of is this
 
11:04 AM
lol
 
16 hours ago, by DemCodeLines
Looking at a girl is stalking? Asking for helping is stalking? Sending friend request is stalking? Being upset that I got led on for nothing is stalking?
that was so sad
 
well, I am only sharing this gossip with you (and the rest of the internet), it is probably because we were young and impressionable at the time. The thesis supervisor was older, but only 30 something at the time, intelligent, workaholic & (IMO) one of the biggest geek I know of ... my friend kind of looked up at him a lot
 
> Yiazmat is the Ultimate Elite Mark in Final Fantasy XII. He is not only the ultimate mark, but also the ultimate boss. Defeating Yiazmat can take at least sixty minutes at high levels and player skill, but the fight usually takes hours.
FF XII is so hardcore
 
Xeo
Meh
Boring
 
60 minutes? that's a mistake
it's at least 3 hours if not more
(I killed it)
 
11:09 AM
Oct 14 '13 at 2:05, by Jefffrey
emplace_back is awesome.
 
it seemed hardcore because such long fights are normally had in MMOs
 
Xeo
Dunno what's appealing about bashing a single boss for 3 hours straight.
 
nothing; in FF XII, you can set up "gambits" to automate actions of your party
you can go AFK in theory
 
Ooh good times with my B.E. & B.Com friends ...
 
Xeo
ew
 
11:10 AM
I never played vanilla WoW but I've heard stories of alterac valley battles going on for days
 
Xeo
No phases?
 
well, at 5% he goes crazy
other than that, no
 
Xeo
wooooow
 
like, you logged out, then logged in after a day and joined the same fight as before, still going on
 
Xeo
So 3h of basically doing the same shit over and over
good design there.
 
11:10 AM
it's a bonus boss that you don't have to do
 
Xeo
still
 
it's no big deal
 
Xeo
It's a boring "bonus"
 
AV was a big map
 
It's realistic
 
11:11 AM
it just requires one force to dominate and it's not easy, because the more people play, the more balanced it gets
 
I only played AV in MoP, and most battles were done in less than an hour
I'm not sure what changes were brought to it
 
Apr 18 '12 at 14:36, by sbi
> US citizens: don't forget that today it's your National Stalking Awareness Day. I just want to say I'm behind you 100%!— Stefan Plattner
 
11:24 AM
speaking of stalking, I find it freaky that two of my girlfriends took a photo of another friend of mine when he was having lunch alone
they bothered to take pictures but didn't bother to go up & say hello
 
maybe they actually took a pic of the food and your friend was getting in the way
 
nope, they took a picture of the guy and not the food, then sent it to me
wtf
 
lol
 
why would I care, if I want to see him, I would have asked him to lunch, maybe with my other friends too
 
I wonder if there are people stalking me too
my life will never be the same again
 
11:30 AM
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> In imperative code, you have essentially two operations that you can do on a variable: get and set (read and write). Anything else revolves around it. Sometimes we state that the variable becomes a constant, and leave only the "get" (read) part.
In Haskell, we also get a context that's write-only, it's called the `Writer`. Usual mutable variables reside in `State`, whereas constant parameters belong in `Reader`. There's a context that allows us to use all three simultaneously, called `RWS` (Reader-Writer-State).
I think that should make the RWS paragraph a bit clearer.
 
user1804599
 
Xeo
hah
 
user1804599
11:39 AM
Wunderbar.
 
user1804599
@FredOverflow oei
 
user1804599
 
user1804599
I get this message every few days.
 
user1804599
 
11:41 AM
I'm sure there's something weird in this but I have no idea what that is: I want to buy a game from someone for $X. the guy also sells a strategy book for that game for $Y, however, I'm not interested in getting the strategy book. he's selling the strategy book for thrice the price of the game and is basically begging me to buy it because if I got the game only he'd have to throw the book away.
 
> Sorry for my bad English I just started to learn how to develop the game. There are two engines that I'm interested to use, UE4 or CE3. Unreal Engine gives me the full C++ source code, and it support the C++ developing as well, I'm super good at C++.
@Xeo uh, totally ^
 
I don't even know where to start analyzing this to find out why it seems weird to me
 
and that wasn't even gamedev.se
that was main.
 
Xeo
@AlexM. Just refuse vOv
 
yeah I'm doing that right now
 
Xeo
11:42 AM
If he absolutely has to sell them together, well, guess he's not gonna sell you just the game
 
but I just can't get an overview of the situation
 
user1804599
@BartekBanachewicz hyperlink pl0x.
 
Xeo
And it's BS that he has to throw it away
he can just sell it by itself
 
@Xeo yeah thought so too
 
11:43 AM
> Thanks for your edit!
This edit will be visible only to you until it is peer reviewed.
argghghha
 
user1804599
@BartekBanachewicz Good.
 
I feel retarded on that site.
 
user1804599
You deserve it.
 
maybe he's now regretting he sold it separately in the first place
 
> I am new to programming (minor experiances with it, but I would like to learn more on it specifially towards RPG Games). I am building a game in Cryengine 3 and I was wondering if there's any tutorials or anything that I can learn or start with based towards RPG Games.
GOD
 
11:44 AM
but I'm still not sure how throwing it away is better than including it in for free or a small extra fee
the price he's asking for it is absurd
 
Xeo
He just wants you to buy it
he isn't actually gonna throw it away
 
user1804599
> Meet #DragonV2, SpaceX's next gen spacecraft designed to carry astronauts to space.
 
makes sense
 
Xeo
That'd be dumb
 
user1804599
Is that not always the point of a spacecraft?
 
@rightfold No?
 
user1804599
Oh, I see.
 
How do you think satellites get to the orbit
 
@rightfold lol?!
 
user1804599
11:47 AM
Oh, right.
 
The vast majority of spacecraft do not carry humans.
 
Or probes
 
VAST majority.
 
user1804599
I did not think of unmanned things.
 
I have no data but it'll be something like 99.5%, at least
 
11:48 AM
The previous SpaceX thing was for resupplying ISS iirc
 
ahaha
LMAO
 
k, refused the guy's offer
 
> Question titled Android Animation
> Tagged Android
You want an animated android? I don't think it needs so many images... — Little Helper 6 hours ago
 
the game itself (Empire Earth) is given for pretty cheap, considering it's one of the old big box editions
 
no seriously let's burn this site
 
Xeo
11:48 AM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit lol
 
will look nice on my shelf
 
@BartekBanachewicz hah
 
user1804599
> Its talking tom cat like application
 
user1804599
Oh god so horrible and chanceless. :P
 
90% of this site is like that
I'm not kidding.
 
user1804599
11:50 AM
Well, better than people asking on Stack Overflow.
 
@BartekBanachewicz gd.se is receiving a lot of junk content, mainly because gamedev seems to be the goto activity of all enthusiastic kids who enjoy playing games and feel like developing their own
 
> I have been trying to use OpenGL for two days now.
sounds like Pawnguy
 
user1804599
OpenGL sucks.
 
user1804599
Fuck low-level crap.
 
it does
but it's helluva fast.
and like, not "C fast"
it's fast<tm>
 
11:50 AM
lol there was one guy on chat who was asking for help with his game and when he received help he was so excited he said "I'm going to program for an hour straight now!"
5
 
...
I'd send you a photo of my face
 
user1804599
Better make fun games instead of games that require quantum supercomputers.
 
orthogonal.
 
user1804599
 
user1804599
JetBrains fail.
 
11:53 AM
thanks for that
@AlexM. haha
 
user1804599
@BartekBanachewicz sexy :3
 
user1804599
Send to rightfold@gmail.com plix.
 
hm
in fact I need a new profile pic
with short hair
 
user1804599
Swap haircuts with @JohanLarsson.
 
gotta ask Natalia to take one of me.
@rightfold :F
not that short
oh what the fuck a guy is trying to use luabind to bind std::vector to lua
@Rapptz told you this would happen
 
user1804599
11:55 AM
std::rector says you cannot use std::vector.
 
@BartekBanachewicz SELFIE
 
Ven
std::rekt
who uses kotlin anyway ? Kreygasm
 
@Jefffrey gah maybe not
 
user1804599
@BartekBanachewicz nobody is at work.
 
12:05 PM
@Rapptz hey, I remember you once were doing something with Fibo + dying rabbits after k months; was it rosalind.info/problems/fibd?
 
yes
wait no
 
that doesn't look particularly hard
those Rosalind puzzles are nice from what I've seen
 
yeah I just did coliru.stacked-crooked.com/a/ffa461eaeeafc670; but it seems this it's slightly... hackery
was wondering how badly I did ^^ /cc @Rapptz
 
user1804599
@BartekBanachewicz That's what Natalia said.
 
(the actual solution memoizes stuff as I don't have eternity)
 
12:08 PM
@ScarletAmaranth dat fib implementation
 
Ven
@ScarletAmaranth gcc rejected your code, sadly
 
@BartekBanachewicz it's not the actual solution (just the recurrence relation I used)
 
BTW you can use otherwise instead of True I think
 
that's a bad fibonacci implementation
 
Xeo
@BartekBanachewicz Not only that, but you should
Since GHC at least special-cases otherwise to not warn
 
12:10 PM
I was just wondering whether it's possible to express purely with a recurrence relation rather than having to do the n <= k thing
 
user1804599
@BartekBanachewicz otherwise = True.
 
2 mins ago, by Xeo
Since GHC at least special-cases otherwise to not warn
 
user1804599
@BartekBanachewicz that's the should part, not the can part.
 
@ScarletAmaranth f(n) = f(n - 1) + f(n - 2) - f(n - m - 1)
it's getting late
or well, early.
At least I don't have work today.
Good night/morning/whatever.
 
babai
@Rapptz oh; neat, I'm silly
I didn't realize the whole thing actually does fibo until they start dying
 
12:17 PM
@Rapptz wait you haven't slept yet?
 
@Rapptz thanks
 
fuck
my case runs proper alone
but not with other subcases
 
@rightfold OEI? Open Ended Investigation?
 
sbi
Do we have an FAQ on under which circumstances move ctor/asop are created? I just dug 20mins through the FAQ tag and found nothing.
 
12:25 PM
@sbi There's no need for one, because the Standard rules sum up as "Pretty much never".
 
Xeo
@DeadMG Not really
They were relaxed
 
sbi
@DeadMG Can you be more precise, please?
 
when every part of the object is movable
tadaaaa
 
T(T&&) = default;
 
implicitly generating move ops breaks virtually every C++03 class with custom copy semantics.
 
sbi
12:26 PM
From what I understood they are created when required and no custom-copy semantics is implemented. Is this correct?
 
@Xeo In 14?
 
sbi
Guys?
If it's that simple, surely one of you would be able to say it in two sentences?
 
It is specified in 12.8/9-11
(n3797)
I don't think there is a FAQ
(well this was just for the move constructor actually)
 
> As bad ideas go, n+k patterns are the germ of a really amazing idea (generalized unification) that we can't quite do in real programming languages yet.
 
When in doubt, = default
 
12:31 PM
implicit generation of move assignment operator is defined in 12.8/20-24
 
When in doubt, = delete.
 
this is way too awesome youtube.com/watch?v=JvS2TNKrQ7o
 
btw
what do you think about unofficial haskell main page?
 
@BartekBanachewicz What unofficial haskell main page?
 
No need to skip ahead, for some reason I got my own separate video this time :) Also, I increased the font size from 10 to 12. Hopefully, the code is now more readable than last time.
 
12:33 PM
I can't German :(
 
awesome
let's see
 
hmm
I made it so Wide types can override virtual functions from C++ types, but overload resolution doesn't like it.
 
sbi
See, there's two simple rules in C++03: 1) The compiler generates a dctor if it is invoked and no ctor is declared. 2) The compiler generates a dtor/cctor/asop when they are invoked but not declared.
I don't expect the rules to stay that simple when move operations enter the game, but I expect there to be a set of rules. Now, is here anybody who can recite these rules in a sentence or two?
 
sbi
Ok, Three or four sentences?
 
12:37 PM
@sbi to explain when a compiler will generate a special member function, in C++11?
 
user1804599
Gotta love Go's website.
 
the move ones, to be specific.
 
sbi
13 mins ago, by sbi
Do we have an FAQ on under which circumstances move ctor/asop are created? I just dug 20mins through the FAQ tag and found nothing.
 
I'd be more than happy to write such answer
 
12:38 PM
@rightfold I actually kinda like the D website.
 
403
Q: What is move semantics?

dicroceI just finished listening to the Software Engineering radio podcast interview with Scott Meyers regarding C++0x. Most of the new features made sense to me, and I am actually excited about C++0x now, with the exception of one. I still don't get move semantics... What is it exactly?

Search for "Special member functions".
 
sbi
@FredOverflow Thanks, that's the summary I was looking for.
As a follow-up Q: My reading of this is: If I declare a mctor, the compiler won't generate a cctor anymore. Did I understand that correctly?
 
yep
but since you can just get it back easily with =default, this isn't really a big deal
 
there's a lot less pressure on the user to know what the compiler will do by default when he can just tell it to do what he wants it to do.
 
user1804599
12:42 PM
@BartekBanachewicz What about it?
 
@rightfold you were interested in Elm, so I added you to my mental update list
 
@BartekBanachewicz I'm ok with the current one. But I won't complain if they succeed in making another fancier one.
 
user1804599
I am not very interested in Elm anymore.
 
user1804599
I don't like someone generating my HTML.
 
Also, he is using this thing as HTML renderer, and I don't even.
 
12:45 PM
@Jefffrey what about it
 
No contributions, no interest, no documentation, committed this week.
 
look at his GH profile
 
That's "let's use solid and well known libraries to get people familiar with the project" of course.
 
that's "I needed this tool so I wrote it"
 
YOU NEED IT
ahahahah
 
12:47 PM
he looks like a pretty hardcore open source contributor
 
The tool just removes operators...
> An interface to blaze-html without the need for operators.
@BartekBanachewicz It's irrelevant here.
The tool also forces you to use its interface that is not documented anywhere except his head.
 
sbi
Thanks, @Fred! :wq!
 
(totally your lecture :))
 
user1804599
@Jefffrey that reminds me.
 
user1804599
12:49 PM
I should implement whoops-session.
 
What's that
 
user1804599
And then some higher level request handler stuff in whoops-handler.
 
his programming language is funny
 
are you making a web framework
I'm disappoint son.
 
user1804599
No, I'm making a set of uncoupled libraries. Fuck web frameworks.
 
12:54 PM
A bunch of barely cooperating random things is always better than a coherent framework, yes
 
it's pretty sad you know
 
user1804599
Indeed.
 
people leave universities thinking that pointers are the essence of C++
 
@Xeo I told the guy I'm fine with buying the game by itself and maybe if I change my mind I'll get the book paired with some other games in the future; in his reply he made sure to emphasize he's hoping I'll buy the book in the future... twice
 
and then we have to tell them that they were taught wrong the whole time
  def bind(arg: String): Var[Addr] = resolvers.get(arg) match {
    case Some(target) =>
      Resolver.eval(target) match {
        case Name.Bound(va) => va
        case Name.Path(_) =>
          Var.value(Addr.Failed(new IllegalArgumentException("Cannot bind to trees")))
      }
    case None =>
      val a = Addr.Failed(new ResolverNotFoundException(arg))
      Var.value(a)
  }
scala looks nice
 
12:57 PM
Well, to be fair teaching C++ the right way would require an entire year 4 hours a day.
 
@ScarletAmaranth This video is not available in Germany :(
 
@BartekBanachewicz needs more type inference
 
@ScarletAmaranth right.
 
I'm going to harvest a lot of tumbleweed here:
 
Type inference is the new jQuery. I see.
 
12:57 PM
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Q: Do tag-based RSS feeds include voting activity for posts these days?

seheI've been noting more and more old (oooold) posts in my RSS feed: "Newest questions tagged tag1 or tag2 or tag3" (http://stackoverflow.com/feeds/tag?tagnames=tag1+or+tag2+or+tag3&sort=newest). E.g. today (some posts from 2010 already vanished as they had become "marked as read" while making this...

No one is using RSS feeds, it seems?
 
@Jefffrey yes, that's what universities overlook
 
whoa, cowboy bebop's complete soundtrack is more than 6 hours long
 
@Jefffrey wut?
 
user1804599
2
 
12:58 PM
@BartekBanachewicz What do you mean?
 
@Jefffrey they shouldn't even bother teaching C++ anything if they can't allocate appropriate time for it.
the curricullae are overblown
 
@ScarletAmaranth It has been saying "Ad 1 of 1: Your content will return shortly" for some time now...
 
they want to show how much they are teaching while in reality they teach pretty much nothing
 

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